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Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
October 02 2013 10:46 GMT
#341
That's just vaulting being an incredibly retarded mechanic in itself. It's not only incredibly useless from a gameplay standpoint, it apparently is also too difficult to mechanically implement. Noone is going to give a shit if the soldiers they see simply jump over fences or boxes, that happened the first 20 years anyway.

One thing I do like so far is spectator mode. Seems fairly simple and easy to use, and it's certainly a good teaching ressource when you view a great players gameplay from first person view. One question I have, is there any way you can get to see the currently viewed players HUD information(Ammo/HP)?
WakaDoDo
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden1183 Posts
October 02 2013 12:15 GMT
#342
Vaulting has been the pink elephant in the room since the BF3 'stress test'. Thats hard to deny.

Stalking and/or cheating with the spectator mode is sure to stir up some drama.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
October 02 2013 12:22 GMT
#343
On October 02 2013 18:59 altered wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 18:30 -Archangel- wrote:
I watched a stream of this yesterday for about 15 minutes. In that time I noticed weapons have almost no recoil and jumping from tall buildings will only take down your health by 1/3. And regeneration mechanics...
If I was compairing this game to Counter strike it would be like compairing Farmville with Civilization 5...


When it comes to shooting mechanics yes (though BF4 has more recoil than BF3 in general i feel). But BF series were never focused on twitch shooting and recoil control like other shooters. So its quite a stupid comparison.
BFs shallow shooting mechanics compared to CS are made up for with strategical deepth. CS is rather shallow strategically and doesnt offer a fraction of the possibilities a 32v32 BF match does when it comes to openings alone. Not to mention that a CS strat basically consists of the opening timings, money management and lowplayercount inf tactics while a BF conquest strat consists of opening, mid and lategame strategy, loadout choice, combined arms tactics, troop logistics, scouting and a lot more.
You might aswell use your Farmeville/CIV5 example to argue against CS.

Lol. If I wanted to play 32v32 I would rather play Arma games. Battlefield has nothing, what you call strategic depth is hilarious. It is just a smokescreen to hide a casual shooting game.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 02 2013 13:07 GMT
#344
anyone know what graphic settings I can play this game at with:

2048MB Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 WindForce
8GB
Intel Core i5 4670K 3.40GHz
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 02 2013 13:11 GMT
#345
On October 02 2013 22:07 Torte de Lini wrote:
anyone know what graphic settings I can play this game at with:

2048MB Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 WindForce
8GB
Intel Core i5 4670K 3.40GHz


You should be able to play very similar to BF3 settings, not as much AA but all ultra and get a good fps.

Right now hard to say because if you don't have windows 8 and are on 7 your fps is going to be shit.

(I have a gtx 760, 8GB of ram, i5 2500k and my fps is pretty shitty and drops a ton).
When I think of something else, something will go here
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
October 02 2013 13:33 GMT
#346
On October 02 2013 21:22 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 18:59 altered wrote:
On October 02 2013 18:30 -Archangel- wrote:
I watched a stream of this yesterday for about 15 minutes. In that time I noticed weapons have almost no recoil and jumping from tall buildings will only take down your health by 1/3. And regeneration mechanics...
If I was compairing this game to Counter strike it would be like compairing Farmville with Civilization 5...


When it comes to shooting mechanics yes (though BF4 has more recoil than BF3 in general i feel). But BF series were never focused on twitch shooting and recoil control like other shooters. So its quite a stupid comparison.
BFs shallow shooting mechanics compared to CS are made up for with strategical deepth. CS is rather shallow strategically and doesnt offer a fraction of the possibilities a 32v32 BF match does when it comes to openings alone. Not to mention that a CS strat basically consists of the opening timings, money management and lowplayercount inf tactics while a BF conquest strat consists of opening, mid and lategame strategy, loadout choice, combined arms tactics, troop logistics, scouting and a lot more.
You might aswell use your Farmeville/CIV5 example to argue against CS.

Lol. If I wanted to play 32v32 I would rather play Arma games. Battlefield has nothing, what you call strategic depth is hilarious. It is just a smokescreen to hide a casual shooting game.

So, you've decided to come into a BF4 thread just to shit on BF4 and recommend other games?

Nice move.

I've pretty enjoyed BF4 beta so far, the new recon is fun as hell, so's the Support airburst guns lol.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
PhoenixHope
Profile Joined July 2013
Canada50 Posts
October 02 2013 13:34 GMT
#347
The best feature by far for me, a feature I have dreamed about for years for various games, is viewing the map on another screen. I took a pic and tweeted it I like it so much, and I don't tweet really. Tweet Tweet
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 13:48:36
October 02 2013 13:41 GMT
#348
On October 02 2013 22:33 Mithhaike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 21:22 -Archangel- wrote:
On October 02 2013 18:59 altered wrote:
On October 02 2013 18:30 -Archangel- wrote:
I watched a stream of this yesterday for about 15 minutes. In that time I noticed weapons have almost no recoil and jumping from tall buildings will only take down your health by 1/3. And regeneration mechanics...
If I was compairing this game to Counter strike it would be like compairing Farmville with Civilization 5...


When it comes to shooting mechanics yes (though BF4 has more recoil than BF3 in general i feel). But BF series were never focused on twitch shooting and recoil control like other shooters. So its quite a stupid comparison.
BFs shallow shooting mechanics compared to CS are made up for with strategical deepth. CS is rather shallow strategically and doesnt offer a fraction of the possibilities a 32v32 BF match does when it comes to openings alone. Not to mention that a CS strat basically consists of the opening timings, money management and lowplayercount inf tactics while a BF conquest strat consists of opening, mid and lategame strategy, loadout choice, combined arms tactics, troop logistics, scouting and a lot more.
You might aswell use your Farmeville/CIV5 example to argue against CS.

Lol. If I wanted to play 32v32 I would rather play Arma games. Battlefield has nothing, what you call strategic depth is hilarious. It is just a smokescreen to hide a casual shooting game.

So, you've decided to come into a BF4 thread just to shit on BF4 and recommend other games?

Nice move.

I've pretty enjoyed BF4 beta so far, the new recon is fun as hell, so's the Support airburst guns lol.

If you cannot read negative opinions about things you like you should not be on the internet. Also this is not a fan corner for BF4 but for discussing anything BF4 related and I am doing just that.
Lets say I am expressing my disappointment about the game and my sadness that modern FPS games are becoming more and more casual
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 14:15:47
October 02 2013 13:45 GMT
#349
You're not offering any real criticism, you're just bashing mechanics you don't like, then implying how less "hardcore" it is to another game (BF to CS and Farmville to Civ V).

If you have legitimate issues of the games, you should voice them less like a little bitch. Otherwise, livejournal.com is probably the best place for you to rant about modern shooters.

Lol. If I wanted to play 32v32 I would rather play Arma games. Battlefield has nothing, what you call strategic depth is hilarious. It is just a smokescreen to hide a casual shooting game.


And regeneration mechanics...
If I was compairing this game to Counter strike it would be like compairing Farmville with Civilization 5...


Lets say I am expressing my disappointment about the game and my sadness that modern FPS games are becoming more and more casual


great conversation starters here
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Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
October 02 2013 14:36 GMT
#350
Ive played the beta for around 10 hours now total , and the game is already better then bf3. the one domination map has some issues tho (everyone camping THAT roof).
The Beta is way more stable then the bf3 beta was , the graphics have improved drastically , im happy so far.
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
October 02 2013 14:51 GMT
#351
For some reason the graphics on Xbox look terrible. Worse than bf3 without the HD textures installed.
dude bro.
Amaril
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany105 Posts
October 02 2013 15:38 GMT
#352
What retard would play a shooter on a console? Can you at least play it with Mouse+Keyboard on XBOX?

User was banned for this post.
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
October 02 2013 15:42 GMT
#353
On October 03 2013 00:38 Amaril wrote:
What retard would play a shooter on a console? Can you at least play it with Mouse+Keyboard on XBOX?


Well some people have these things called friends. And many friends aren't PC master race like us so they have to play on console to play with those friend things.
dude bro.
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
October 02 2013 15:49 GMT
#354
On October 02 2013 22:41 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 22:33 Mithhaike wrote:
On October 02 2013 21:22 -Archangel- wrote:
On October 02 2013 18:59 altered wrote:
On October 02 2013 18:30 -Archangel- wrote:
I watched a stream of this yesterday for about 15 minutes. In that time I noticed weapons have almost no recoil and jumping from tall buildings will only take down your health by 1/3. And regeneration mechanics...
If I was compairing this game to Counter strike it would be like compairing Farmville with Civilization 5...


When it comes to shooting mechanics yes (though BF4 has more recoil than BF3 in general i feel). But BF series were never focused on twitch shooting and recoil control like other shooters. So its quite a stupid comparison.
BFs shallow shooting mechanics compared to CS are made up for with strategical deepth. CS is rather shallow strategically and doesnt offer a fraction of the possibilities a 32v32 BF match does when it comes to openings alone. Not to mention that a CS strat basically consists of the opening timings, money management and lowplayercount inf tactics while a BF conquest strat consists of opening, mid and lategame strategy, loadout choice, combined arms tactics, troop logistics, scouting and a lot more.
You might aswell use your Farmeville/CIV5 example to argue against CS.

Lol. If I wanted to play 32v32 I would rather play Arma games. Battlefield has nothing, what you call strategic depth is hilarious. It is just a smokescreen to hide a casual shooting game.

So, you've decided to come into a BF4 thread just to shit on BF4 and recommend other games?

Nice move.

I've pretty enjoyed BF4 beta so far, the new recon is fun as hell, so's the Support airburst guns lol.

If you cannot read negative opinions about things you like you should not be on the internet. Also this is not a fan corner for BF4 but for discussing anything BF4 related and I am doing just that.
Lets say I am expressing my disappointment about the game and my sadness that modern FPS games are becoming more and more casual

Like what torte said. You have contributed nothing but bashing and whining about certain mechanics. Your not expressing your disappointment, your bashing and making unfair comparisons, flame baiting i would call it.

What farmville to civ5, i rather play arma, please,if you dont like the game, just express exactly what you dont like and gtfo this thread. we dont need you here at all.

Go and play your arma. Oh you cannot read negative opinions about your negative opinions? You shouldn't be on the internet either bro. This isn't a QQ thread.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
October 02 2013 16:15 GMT
#355
On October 03 2013 00:42 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 00:38 Amaril wrote:
What retard would play a shooter on a console? Can you at least play it with Mouse+Keyboard on XBOX?


Well some people have these things called friends. And many friends aren't PC master race like us so they have to play on console to play with those friend things.


Stop objectifying your friends!

On another topic, seeing and reading more about bf4 is actually getting me less excited. Still will give it a try at a friend's LAN this weekend but I'm not looking forward to it anymore. BF1942, what have you become...
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
October 02 2013 17:41 GMT
#356
Remember to keep in mind that we've yet to see any other maps for ourselves than Shanghai. This one doesn't actually bother me for size/scale at all and issues I have are more with mechanics, balance or bugs than anything else.

Some people look like they're forgetting that even 1942 also had its share of small, ranging to tiny, city maps such as Berlin.

My overall thoughts are fairly positive when it comes to BF4 so far. There's a lot of smaller changes to mechanics that have the potential to heavily change overall gameplay decisions and balance compared to BF3, such as the squadperk system, slower lessened mobility, vehicles that have to preserve their ammo usage etc.

If we can allow ourselves to actually view the comparison between BF3 and BF4 in a vacuum instead of constantly having to be reminded of the fact that the good changes/updates was simply how BF3 should have been, then that allows for a much more constructive discussion on the subject.

Everyone who's been following the BF series and playing all the games already know how EA/Dice have been literally hitler etc. False marketing, broken promises endless bugs, terrible mechanics and ridiculous game balancing. This is something we all know and have probably spent longer than we would've liked to, complaining about.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 02 2013 18:02 GMT
#357
Does anyone know how to access the US version of Origin? I tried using proxy, but if I add anything to the cart it doesn't necessarily do it. I'm trying to buy the US version even though I'm in Germany.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 03:32:26
October 03 2013 03:31 GMT
#358
Anyone remember in bf3 beta all they had was the stupid Metro map, I swear I never touched it again once the game came out
edit: I guess it was a decent map I just way overplayed it
Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
October 03 2013 04:19 GMT
#359
On October 02 2013 23:51 heliusx wrote:
For some reason the graphics on Xbox look terrible. Worse than bf3 without the HD textures installed.


Well, its xbox what do you expect.
XK ßubonic
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 03 2013 04:21 GMT
#360
On October 03 2013 12:31 Assault_1 wrote:
Anyone remember in bf3 beta all they had was the stupid Metro map, I swear I never touched it again once the game came out
edit: I guess it was a decent map I just way overplayed it


Yeah I personally always hated metro. Was just a cluster fuck map. To this day I still can't touch it :D
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