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On February 14 2013 02:23 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 02:17 Kyhron wrote:
Well I "did" have other blizzards its just they were all like 1-3 so pretty much useless until I got Blizzard Raid. Then I ended up getting like 4 really good Blizzards in like Olympus? Agrabah was the only place I felt really short on cards but I didnt farm much and tried to just power my way through with what I had at that time Sleights are the names of the game until you get to Olympus the only reason I do Agrabah first is because Jafar is a horrible boss and isn't effected by blizzard raid.
Yeah and i need to practice putting them together a bit more. Im having the unfortunate habit of hitting one shoulder button slightly before the other and royally screwing sleights. The biggest problem was I really didnt farm enough and had a ridiculous amount of low numbered cards and few mid and high numbered cards. Gotta farm more my next run even if it costs me some time.
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
On February 14 2013 02:40 Kyhron wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 02:23 Drazerk wrote:On February 14 2013 02:17 Kyhron wrote:
Well I "did" have other blizzards its just they were all like 1-3 so pretty much useless until I got Blizzard Raid. Then I ended up getting like 4 really good Blizzards in like Olympus? Agrabah was the only place I felt really short on cards but I didnt farm much and tried to just power my way through with what I had at that time Sleights are the names of the game until you get to Olympus the only reason I do Agrabah first is because Jafar is a horrible boss and isn't effected by blizzard raid. Yeah and i need to practice putting them together a bit more. Im having the unfortunate habit of hitting one shoulder button slightly before the other and royally screwing sleights. The biggest problem was I really didnt farm enough and had a ridiculous amount of low numbered cards and few mid and high numbered cards. Gotta farm more my next run even if it costs me some time.
In both my Sora run and Augora's Riku run we both got screwed out by around 30 minutes because we didn't farm enough so I wouldn't worry about farming wasting time.
Blue nocturne + blizzard raid in Wonderland is the perfect farming spot unless you need red cards at which point you should farm in Traverse town.
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I think that I am going to give Grandia a try, if it is even possible.
Also, what is the difference between RTA and single-segment?
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England2653 Posts
Got bored at work and wrote out a bunch of advice. Got even more bored, posted it here.
The secret to a great run is to play until you’re satisfied when you watch it back, not to play until you’re satisfied with the time you get. While cutting a milestone time feels good, it’s completely arbitrary. Cutting milestones is probably the biggest cause of un-optimised runs. Watch your runs.
Continued from above: Never guess how much time can come off your game and never ever utter these words: “With perfect execution/luck/whatever I can get x:xx”.
When it comes to precise timing and testing, I would suggest (seriously) leaving it to someone else. If no one else is going to do it, wait until you’re already finishing good runs. Spending an hour finding out that running like this saves 10 seconds compared to running like that is a waste of time when you’re starting out. Odds are you can get a keen viewer to test it for you. Wait until 10 seconds is important, then do it.
If you’re trying to learn an existing route, the best way to do it, is to just ask the runner to teach you. They’ll love to help out and it removes a lot of guesswork. Just make sure you’ve already come up with your own ideas first. This will take longer, but it’s worth it in the end.
The more games you run or follow, the easier this process will be and the more ideas you can adapt to work in your run. Remember that it takes time to learn but always less that you think.
Setting a goal when starting a game is a good idea as long as the goal is sensible. Starting a game with the goal to break the world record or to submit to SDA is a recipe for burning out and failure. Set your first goals as easy ones then reduce the time down as you go. If the WR is 1 hour, aim for 2 hours, then 1:50, 1:40 and so on. When you’re 1:05, then go for the WR. With an achievable goal, you can also find yourself naturally focusing on what’s important rather than obscene optimisations.
Only you know what you enjoy in a game. For me, I’m not fond of running glitch categories or playing games with instant deaths. While I would suggest not playing instant death games for your first one, it would be awful advice for a lot of you who grew up with platformers. Run what’s fun.
Never lie about your times. Never ever ever. If your time isn’t good, no one is going to chastise you unless you lie about it, or say it’s the best run ever.
Don’t care about WRs. Really; don’t even think about it until you’re in a record war with someone. That’s when it’s fun. Before that, it’s trivial knowledge. I suggest you wait until you’re satisfied with your run before advertising it as a world record as well. “OK technically your four hour run of X is a record, but it’s got 90 minutes of mistakes.”
Don’t feel attached to a game. If you want to take a break from it, or drop it altogether, do it. Breaks fix bad habits for you.
Do it for you. Don’t run for fame or fortune or for anyone other than you. It’s very easy to get downhearted at getting no twitch viewers or seeing five posts in your thread and they’re all from you. This doesn’t matter. Route and run the game because you want to. Get good times because you want to. Maybe you’ll get an audience, maybe you won’t. Who cares?
Finally, never stop questioning your route.
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On February 15 2013 00:34 Flicky wrote:
Got bored at work and wrote out a bunch of advice. Got even more bored, posted it here.
The secret to a great run is to play until you’re satisfied when you watch it back, not to play until you’re satisfied with the time you get. While cutting a milestone time feels good, it’s completely arbitrary. Cutting milestones is probably the biggest cause of un-optimised runs. Watch your runs.
Continued from above: Never guess how much time can come off your game and never ever utter these words: “With perfect execution/luck/whatever I can get x:xx”.
When it comes to precise timing and testing, I would suggest (seriously) leaving it to someone else. If no one else is going to do it, wait until you’re already finishing good runs. Spending an hour finding out that running like this saves 10 seconds compared to running like that is a waste of time when you’re starting out. Odds are you can get a keen viewer to test it for you. Wait until 10 seconds is important, then do it.
If you’re trying to learn an existing route, the best way to do it, is to just ask the runner to teach you. They’ll love to help out and it removes a lot of guesswork. Just make sure you’ve already come up with your own ideas first. This will take longer, but it’s worth it in the end.
The more games you run or follow, the easier this process will be and the more ideas you can adapt to work in your run. Remember that it takes time to learn but always less that you think.
Setting a goal when starting a game is a good idea as long as the goal is sensible. Starting a game with the goal to break the world record or to submit to SDA is a recipe for burning out and failure. Set your first goals as easy ones then reduce the time down as you go. If the WR is 1 hour, aim for 2 hours, then 1:50, 1:40 and so on. When you’re 1:05, then go for the WR. With an achievable goal, you can also find yourself naturally focusing on what’s important rather than obscene optimisations.
Only you know what you enjoy in a game. For me, I’m not fond of running glitch categories or playing games with instant deaths. While I would suggest not playing instant death games for your first one, it would be awful advice for a lot of you who grew up with platformers. Run what’s fun.
Never lie about your times. Never ever ever. If your time isn’t good, no one is going to chastise you unless you lie about it, or say it’s the best run ever.
Don’t care about WRs. Really; don’t even think about it until you’re in a record war with someone. That’s when it’s fun. Before that, it’s trivial knowledge. I suggest you wait until you’re satisfied with your run before advertising it as a world record as well. “OK technically your four hour run of X is a record, but it’s got 90 minutes of mistakes.”
Don’t feel attached to a game. If you want to take a break from it, or drop it altogether, do it. Breaks fix bad habits for you.
Do it for you. Don’t run for fame or fortune or for anyone other than you. It’s very easy to get downhearted at getting no twitch viewers or seeing five posts in your thread and they’re all from you. This doesn’t matter. Route and run the game because you want to. Get good times because you want to. Maybe you’ll get an audience, maybe you won’t. Who cares?
Finally, never stop questioning your route.
This is the best. Thank you so much Flick. I keep getting the itch to start learning something myself (though that'll probably end up waiting til summer) and anytime I really sit down and try to figure out which game in my collection to try or how much work to put in, I just get bummed out or start making excuses. Your post has lots of good advice, and it's inspiring.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Going to do a GS2100% run. Here's hoping I'm able to finish this time.
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Grats on the great run Plexa. It was a nice distraction from the nonstop crap luck I was getting in my CoM practice, but now to practice and practice some more after that. 
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Thanks Kyhron Still lots of obvious mistakes and areas that need work (star magician..... wild coat from fountain.....) but overall I'm really satisfied with the progress that I've made in around a month. At least someone like wertser will have a solid idea about what a 100% might look like and what kind of times that they'd need to beat.
The run came in at 9:24:48 with in game time 8:24.
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With all the retreat warping and possible RNG manipulations by using resets I think real time is the way to go.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Absolutely, I find the in game time interesting though. It gives you an idea about the number of resets used during it
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
Grats on the run Plexa. Since I only got to watch five minutes I'll be sure to watch the recording later ^^
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Do you guys use emulators for the SNES games? I'm thinking of giving this a try, I've always liked boasting about how fast I could beat the games with ppl IRL, but these guys are a whole other ball game.
I couldn't find any guide or anything to get started, any tips?
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England2653 Posts
On February 16 2013 02:50 Z-BosoN wrote:
Do you guys use emulators for the SNES games? I'm thinking of giving this a try, I've always liked boasting about how fast I could beat the games with ppl IRL, but these guys are a whole other ball game.
I couldn't find any guide or anything to get started, any tips?
Snes9x is real good. There's a few options though.
JSnes, Zsnes, Bsnes.
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
For SRL races these are the ones typically allowed:
Snes9x 1.51 or higher
bsnes
SNESGT
Zsnes is banned in the LTTP community but I'm not sure about other games
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Thanks for the help!
SNES usb controllers work fine with Snes9x I take it?
Also, what about the games, where is a good place to download them from?
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On February 16 2013 04:09 Z-BosoN wrote:
Thanks for the help!
SNES usb controllers work fine with Snes9x I take it?
Also, what about the games, where is a good place to download them from?
Yes, a USB SNES controller will work with Snes9x. ROMs are illegal so we can't give you a direct link. Google is your friend.
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On February 16 2013 06:20 11CheckerS wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2013 04:09 Z-BosoN wrote:
Thanks for the help!
SNES usb controllers work fine with Snes9x I take it?
Also, what about the games, where is a good place to download them from? Yes, a USB SNES controller will work with Snes9x. ROMs are illegal so we can't give you a direct link. Google is your friend.
Oh, roms are illegal? I found some websites which were quite open with their downloads, but they missed some of the games I was looking for. I guess some of them are copyrighted?
thx man
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On February 16 2013 08:03 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2013 06:20 11CheckerS wrote:On February 16 2013 04:09 Z-BosoN wrote:
Thanks for the help!
SNES usb controllers work fine with Snes9x I take it?
Also, what about the games, where is a good place to download them from? Yes, a USB SNES controller will work with Snes9x. ROMs are illegal so we can't give you a direct link. Google is your friend. Oh, roms are illegal? I found some websites which were quite open with their downloads, but they missed some of the games I was looking for. I guess some of them are copyrighted? thx man
I mean, it's essentially just piracy. It'd just be like linking to a torrent of a movie in a TL thread about movies.
You should be able to find some by browsing around (carefully!).
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On February 14 2013 04:12 Xacez wrote:
I think that I am going to give Grandia a try, if it is even possible.
Also, what is the difference between RTA and single-segment?
There really is no difference. RTA stands for Real Time Attack, which basically means it is singlesegmented and not a Tool-Assisted Speedrun (TAS).
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