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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28781 Posts
December 19 2005 03:23 GMT
#21
from having talked to people who were top 3 norwegian quakeworld players (we had a lan at my house which 2 of them attended! ), thresh was indeed incredible but he was only unmatched in northern america. the problem is that due to this being like 8+ years ago, the connections sucked, and europeans didn't play all that much with americans, and when they did the ping would never be below 100, usually like 200+, and that's just too much ping to compete with. imagine tank vs goon popping with extra high latency or something and then make it even worse than that..

either way thresh was not considered godly by the guys I talked to, at least not on qw. but it's been so long my memory isn't the greatest.
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zrucrem
Profile Joined September 2005
Afghanistan425 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-12-19 04:57:18
December 19 2005 04:56 GMT
#22
D11-Thresh (best in world/US) vs BilloX (best in UK)

thresh totally embarrased billox 56 to -1

but you should see some Immortal demos hes the best railer ive ever seen.

EDIT: that was Q2 :p Thresh dominates both game
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
December 19 2005 05:05 GMT
#23
haha i love how fps if you're better than someone the score is so outrageous... you can completely dominate... sucks that its so hard to watch though, it'd be so huge if it was as watchable as bw
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28781 Posts
December 19 2005 06:05 GMT
#24
yes I heard in q2 thresh did in dominate.. but the quake players I've talked to said he never dominated quakeworld in the world as a whole. that you could easily justify saying he's top 3 or something but that comparing best in europe and best in usa really wasn't possible because of the huge pings people received..

and honestly in quakeworld it's possible to win 20-0 against someone who was just as good as yourself.
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ubergamer15
Profile Joined January 2005
United States645 Posts
December 19 2005 07:02 GMT
#25
On December 19 2005 15:05 Liquid`Drone wrote:
yes I heard in q2 thresh did in dominate.. but the quake players I've talked to said he never dominated quakeworld in the world as a whole. that you could easily justify saying he's top 3 or something but that comparing best in europe and best in usa really wasn't possible because of the huge pings people received..

and honestly in quakeworld it's possible to win 20-0 against someone who was just as good as yourself.

I think this is true of most FPS games. There are just days when your reflexes are abnormally good, and you own people who you would normally be on equal standing with.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28781 Posts
December 19 2005 07:12 GMT
#26
and quake games in particular because the advantage you get from winning the first fight is, when both players are really good and able to know where someone is just based on teleportation sounds and picking up stuff can often give you another 4-5 quick frags.
especially on dm4 which was the coolest map

but yes it also holds true because speed and accuracy is such an important aspect, and those depend more on daily shape than your ability to strategize.
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Smorrie
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2927 Posts
December 19 2005 08:35 GMT
#27
quake 2 kinda sucked imo t.t it took away all the speed and fast gameplay q1 had.. i loved how all of that reappeared in q3.. i probably enjoyed q3 most off all (maybe because i was relatively good at it, better than i've ever been at bw ;D)..

havent tried q4 yet tho and i'll probably never get to it T.T

wish i was still young and a hardcore gaming nerd :D good old tmies
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inkblot
Profile Joined December 2004
United States1250 Posts
December 19 2005 10:35 GMT
#28
Q4 seems way slower to me. It's still Quake, but the movement speed and weapons almost feel gimped. Of course, it's new, but when I watch some good demos of Q4 it's not nearly as impressive as QW/Q3 demos. I don't think anyone in Q4 really bhops, it's pointless because the maps force you to lose speed very fast. Rocket jumping and other things also seem greatly diminished.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28781 Posts
December 19 2005 10:55 GMT
#29
oh that sucks. rocket jumping is part of why qw is so awesome. and there's so much cool trickjumping you can do..
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mitsy
Profile Joined October 2005
United States1792 Posts
December 19 2005 15:54 GMT
#30
ppl dont really realize how much strategy is going on in a DM, but thats why they suck. every game is strategy. thats why its gay to call something a "strategy game" thats just like saying "well the game's not fun but it's deep", fuck that...
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IceLeY
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany121 Posts
December 19 2005 17:07 GMT
#31
On December 19 2005 03:56 brite wrote:
is any1 else getting this message??
when i try and start the game it says :
W_LoadWadfile: couldn't loadgfx.wad
anyone know what it is?
i googled it but i can't find it.


i encountered the same problem
anyone help?
distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
December 19 2005 18:33 GMT
#32
I think you're missing a file. Maybe you just downloaded Fuhquake and tried to run it. Create an ID1 folder in your quake folder and put these files in it:

http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=02A9FCNZG83IG3G44MA89HEGXV

Hope that helps!
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Pat
Profile Joined February 2004
Canada721 Posts
December 19 2005 18:39 GMT
#33
I was a big fan of Quake III...

In fact, I think I will re-install it after my test today and frag some people online ^^
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haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
December 19 2005 19:07 GMT
#34
how did guys like zero4 and fatality ranked up against thresh? the last tournament i observed had two russians beating everyone, i think that was the million man lan in USA? the russians are lakerman and alex?
oh yeah.. this is q3 btw.
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ChoboCop
Profile Joined July 2004
United States954 Posts
December 19 2005 20:59 GMT
#35
I beat fatality at quake1. I also beat Matador. They were in the top echilon of quake1 players at the end of their runs though,
First of all, DM6 has always been the standard, best balanced Q1 map. DM4 is very random. Many times a player will get trapped in the bottom rl area which leads to a standoff where he dies upon trying to 'break out'. Furthermore, even in matches between top players lava deaths that upset the balance of power happen frequently.
Secondly, NO ONE EVER proved themselves better than Thresh in ANY match 1v1 in Quake1.
Thirdly, I have recently jumped back into the mix and there is a fresh batch of skilled players in North American Quake1 as well as tournaments and clan leagues.
Lastly, I challenge anyone on this forum to a 3 game 1v1 match! Game in 20.
P.S. Thresh never dominated QW because he didn't play it. (at all) The real competition was in NetQuake and QW changed the physics of Quake. Furthermore, when the Swedish clan played Death Row on Lan it was in Europe, the death row players were in different rooms while the swedish players were all talking in the same room, death row had jet lag, and the Swedish players still got PWNED when they played the netquake matches.
P.P.S. Almost all the great replays are still available from Team games to 1v1. Try Quakeworld.us as a starting point.
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IceLeY
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany121 Posts
December 19 2005 23:51 GMT
#36
On December 20 2005 03:33 distant_voice wrote:
I think you're missing a file. Maybe you just downloaded Fuhquake and tried to run it. Create an ID1 folder in your quake folder and put these files in it:

http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=02A9FCNZG83IG3G44MA89HEGXV

Hope that helps!


thx a lot its works fine now
zgl
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1055 Posts
December 20 2005 01:05 GMT
#37
That DR lost to 9 does not tarnish Thresh's image as the legendary dueler.

Dennis was way ahead of his time in terms of understanding the strategic aspects of dueling; he could seemingly read minds and stay two steps ahead of his opponents
brite
Profile Joined January 2005
United Kingdom253 Posts
December 20 2005 01:16 GMT
#38
On December 20 2005 03:33 distant_voice wrote:
I think you're missing a file. Maybe you just downloaded Fuhquake and tried to run it. Create an ID1 folder in your quake folder and put these files in it:

http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=02A9FCNZG83IG3G44MA89HEGXV

Hope that helps!

jea thanks alot for that. works fine now.
ChoboCop
Profile Joined July 2004
United States954 Posts
December 20 2005 04:58 GMT
#39
Game anyone?
Critical thinking is the intellectually disciplined process of actively and skillfully conceptualizing, applying, analyzing, synthesizing, and/or evaluating information gathered.
Malmis
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Sweden1569 Posts
December 20 2005 16:24 GMT
#40
iirc quake 2 is open source?

if thats the case, is there any xp version of q2?
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