XCOM: Enemy Unknown - Page 49

On October 24 2012 14:33 Spazer wrote:
THIS ISN'T RIGHT.

NO. NO DAMNIT NO!

NOOOO, I WANNA GO HOME.

I hate you guys so much.

On October 24 2012 15:42 DystopiaX wrote:

It's funny because most of the time when dudes panic they end up killing a Muton for me or something. Only once has a dude shot at another dude (missed even though he had a shotty and was 2 squares away lol) and most of the time they just hunker down, which ends up being fine for me.

On October 24 2012 18:42 GrandSmurf wrote:
HE WAS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU !! HOW THE FUCK!! DID YOU MISS.

*shakes his head and reloads to try again.

i understand you cant have a 100% hitrate but sometimes i want to grab their guns and show them how to hit something that is standing like 1 meter in front of them..

On October 24 2012 21:21 plated.rawr wrote:
Pretty sure that DLC is the pre-order bonus package thing. Customizable armors for your dudes and dudettas.

Yea, I'm pining for new researches, constructions and aliens. Not so interested in clothes.

On October 24 2012 21:27 Truenappa wrote:
Yay - finally beat classic/ironman! I was down to my last square on the doom tracker.
I have several bad starts but then the game clicked for me and the rest was smooth sailing until a few times when I got sleepy/stupid.

Best tips:
General
- prioritize defensive/offensive research for your units. (the game ramps up difficulty by introducing the nastier aliens over time no matter what you do.)
- Corpses and UFO parts are better to sell over alloys/elysium (which you constantly need to build stuff)
- make sure to use adjacency bonuses when building facilities
- countries won't pull out until the council meeting, you can save full panic nations with a satellite if you can build one in time.
- In the first turn of the game (skip tutorial so all 4 can survive/promote), build a satellite and a medkit.

Combat
- Classic is unforgiving and cruel, so be redundantly careful. A slow and successful mission is better than five failed save/loads. "ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." There is no penalty for thinking over your turn.
- I have a rule to never take a shot with under 50% chance to hit. There's probably a better use for your second move (hunker, move to full cover, reload)
- Aggressively reload after killing a pack.
- Give all heavy's the heat ammo upgrade so you'll have an easier time with the robots (they're annoyingly high health.)
- my most effective squad was 2 heavy, 2 assault, 1 sniper, 1 support.
- My mission success ratio was 40/41. I think you can only fail once or twice and still win. Treat each combat as an interview for your dream job
- Because of the unforgiving nature of classic/ironman, I prioritized scouting info through ghost armor, battle scanner, etc.
- w/ a 4-man group, 1 unit lost is acceptable. w/ 6, 2 is ok. Never bring more than 2 rookies on a mission.

On October 24 2012 21:27 Truenappa wrote:
Yay - finally beat classic/ironman! I was down to my last square on the doom tracker.
I have several bad starts but then the game clicked for me and the rest was smooth sailing until a few times when I got sleepy/stupid.

Best tips:
General
- prioritize defensive/offensive research for your units. (the game ramps up difficulty by introducing the nastier aliens over time no matter what you do.)
- Corpses and UFO parts are better to sell over alloys/elysium (which you constantly need to build stuff)
- make sure to use adjacency bonuses when building facilities
- countries won't pull out until the council meeting, you can save full panic nations with a satellite if you can build one in time.
- In the first turn of the game (skip tutorial so all 4 can survive/promote), build a satellite and a medkit.

Combat
- Classic is unforgiving and cruel, so be redundantly careful. A slow and successful mission is better than five failed save/loads. "ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." There is no penalty for thinking over your turn.
- I have a rule to never take a shot with under 50% chance to hit. There's probably a better use for your second move (hunker, move to full cover, reload)
- Aggressively reload after killing a pack.
- Give all heavy's the heat ammo upgrade so you'll have an easier time with the robots (they're annoyingly high health.)
- my most effective squad was 2 heavy, 2 assault, 1 sniper, 1 support.
- My mission success ratio was 40/41. I think you can only fail once or twice and still win. Treat each combat as an interview for your dream job
- Because of the unforgiving nature of classic/ironman, I prioritized scouting info through ghost armor, battle scanner, etc.
- w/ a 4-man group, 1 unit lost is acceptable. w/ 6, 2 is ok. Never bring more than 2 rookies on a mission.

On October 24 2012 22:33 Nizaris wrote:
heavies are meh. Sure they are nice on sectopods but their accuracy is so bad unless you're right up to them.

Best combo imo, 2 snipers 2 assaults 1 heavy 1 support. Having 2 double tap snipers makes the game really fucking easy.

Almost done with my classic game, only 2 countries left XCom. And starting with Afrika i'm sitting on 4k credits with nothing to spend it on. Already have 9 firestorms...

On October 24 2012 18:40 PandaCore wrote:
Sometimes you just have foul luck in Classic+Ironman... damn you alien crit+aim bonus, damn you

Started abduction mission, took five steps forward into cover, see two mutons... only light cover everywhere (it's that construction site map) while they both have full. So get everyone into cover and hunker down, since I only have 25% hit with everyone and they're still too far away for grenades or run&gun.

Aliens turn, first muton shoots from cover and hits my sniper critically with 9 damage... even though I just gave him carapace armor he just dies instantly. Next muton stays in cover as well and hits my support critically as well and she dies too.

So I'm left with 2 assault and a heavy.

Move heavy and take a 45% shot at one muton, missed, but holo targeting is active now.

Moved the 2 assaults into full cover to shot the holo targeted muton with about 55% chance each. Both miss...

Aliens turn they kill my heavy. One of my assaults panics and shoots my other assault who is now left with 2 HP.

Had to pull out, 4 countries go into full panic mode... no satelllites left to deploy. Guess it's time for another attempt

On October 24 2012 23:37 Arevall wrote:
Snipers might be more interesting if they didn't have squadsight, but had move-and-shoot as first skill (instead of headshot) but with a larger to-aim penalty. Then you could choose between improved move-and-shoot and headshot later.

Thinking about that, I'd like the game to be more "up-and-close", making close-combat decisions and being able to put a few soldiers in the line of fire. I like it when my soldiers get killed!

On October 24 2012 21:27 Truenappa wrote:
Yay - finally beat classic/ironman! I was down to my last square on the doom tracker.
I have several bad starts but then the game clicked for me and the rest was smooth sailing until a few times when I got sleepy/stupid.

Best tips:
General
- prioritize defensive/offensive research for your units. (the game ramps up difficulty by introducing the nastier aliens over time no matter what you do.)
- Corpses and UFO parts are better to sell over alloys/elysium (which you constantly need to build stuff)
- make sure to use adjacency bonuses when building facilities
- countries won't pull out until the council meeting, you can save full panic nations with a satellite if you can build one in time.
- In the first turn of the game (skip tutorial so all 4 can survive/promote), build a satellite and a medkit.

Combat
- Classic is unforgiving and cruel, so be redundantly careful. A slow and successful mission is better than five failed save/loads. "ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." There is no penalty for thinking over your turn.
- I have a rule to never take a shot with under 50% chance to hit. There's probably a better use for your second move (hunker, move to full cover, reload)
- Aggressively reload after killing a pack.
- Give all heavy's the heat ammo upgrade so you'll have an easier time with the robots (they're annoyingly high health.)
- my most effective squad was 2 heavy, 2 assault, 1 sniper, 1 support.
- My mission success ratio was 40/41. I think you can only fail once or twice and still win. Treat each combat as an interview for your dream job
- Because of the unforgiving nature of classic/ironman, I prioritized scouting info through ghost armor, battle scanner, etc.
- w/ a 4-man group, 1 unit lost is acceptable. w/ 6, 2 is ok. Never bring more than 2 rookies on a mission.

On October 25 2012 00:06 -Archangel- wrote:

I would not call these best tips, just your tips

I got a classic/ironman game without any countries lost, and without any missions lost. I only didn't manage to shoot down one battleship before I had Firestorms with plasma/emp (lost 3 interceptors with plasma to it). I only got last mission to do. I am even not using/abusing squad sight snipers. I have not lost a single Colonel in any mission.

So, while your tips for combat are on the spot, some tips about geoscape play are not the best. Save sectoid, floater and cyberdisk bodies, you need them for those one time boosts in air combat. You interceptors can take out tougher targets thanks to them.
Don't build anything else in first month but 3 satellites, 1 satellite uplink and 1 workshop and 1 power (sell some UFO power cores and computers if you need to). Always take engineers as first abduction mission so you can unlock workshop. You got to time your 1st Uplink(14d) and 3 Satellites(20d) to finish building before first council report. Research alloys and carapace armor first so you can have those before first terror mission. Also try to get beam weapons so you can have some laser rifles but it can be done without those with liberal use of explosives and good play (you need to win all missions before it and don't lose your higher level troops). Each month after make sure to build one more Uplink and 3 satellites before Council report. Use those to save countries that would leave you (always launch satellites 1-3 days before Council report). Also you can play abduction missions to make sure only countries in one continent are red at end of month because you will put satellites on them.

On October 25 2012 00:19 Maxyim wrote:


One comment I will make is to wait on researching beam weapon tech until capturing and interrogating a live sectoid - this gives you the beam weapons research credit, which halves research time. Same goes for floaters and basic armor tech, thin men and flight tech, and the later muton > plasma weapons, berserker > advanced armor, floater > flight tech credits.

On October 25 2012 00:02 Maxyim wrote:
Only question I have for you; if they were able to hit your sniper after you ended turn, why didn't your own sniper shoot them on your turn? If the answer is that your sniper was not yet in line of sight, and you moved him forward, then that there is the problem; snipers are almost always the first person that gets targeted until they get Low Profile (enemy AI seems to like taking the most likely shot to land, so if they see your whole team hunkering down in low cover at comparable distances from them; they will shoot the soldier with the least defense (read - sniper)).

The best solution is to position your snipers away from the front line (move them to the side instead of forward) and to try to keep them behind full cover until Low Profile. Remember, with squadsight, they do not have to be particularly close to the aliens, just within LoS.