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Brazil1546 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On June 12 2013 20:43 Caller wrote: why do you need to ram when you can just kill german tanks with well positioned mines, at guns, and su85s? maybe u can even steal a panzerschreck or two from the krauts! Do panzerschrecks actually get dropped? I don't recall them being lootable, although at that point they might have just gotten blown up. | ||
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Malpractice.248
United States734 Posts
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On June 13 2013 05:55 ACrow wrote: Is it normal that I frequently get kicked out of a game (in fact, it counts as a loss) due to "your connection to Steam has been lost"? Suspiciously, this happens a lot when I'm winning, and I can guarantee that it's not my internet connection. Probably just some bug, but quite annoying none the less -.- CoH2 is still using the peer to peer bullshit that has been in every other relic game in the past years. Connections being terrible is standard. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On June 13 2013 03:07 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Do panzerschrecks actually get dropped? I don't recall them being lootable, although at that point they might have just gotten blown up. my vet 3 shock troops had a field day oneshotting halftracks last night with stolen panzerschrecks courtesy of a kv8 sneaking behind a blob of panzer grenadiers~ | ||
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Azza
China650 Posts
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Malpractice.248
United States734 Posts
On June 13 2013 05:55 ACrow wrote: Is it normal that I frequently get kicked out of a game (in fact, it counts as a loss) due to "your connection to Steam has been lost"? Suspiciously, this happens a lot when I'm winning, and I can guarantee that it's not my internet connection. Probably just some bug, but quite annoying none the less -.- Theres a way to see win loss? | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
There is not a way to see win-loss. On June 13 2013 06:29 Caller wrote: my vet 3 shock troops had a field day oneshotting halftracks last night with stolen panzerschrecks courtesy of a kv8 sneaking behind a blob of panzer grenadiers~ How to win with Soviet - Steal all the German guns ^_^ | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [patchnotes June13] + Updates for June 13th, 2013 Game Updates - Twitch fully unlocked for players - Single Player E3 Demo Mission unlocked - Tutorial Mission unlocked - Stability fixes - Compatibility fixes Balance Changes Anti-Tank grenades and Panzerfaust: - Range reduced from 20 to 15. Veterancy Change: - Rates changed from 50%/50% (Damage applied / received damage) to 75%/25%. Upkeep: - Rate changed from 4 upkeep per pop to 1.5. - Upkeep thresholds removed. Riegel 43 Anti-tank Mine - Reduced the time to plant the mine from 12 to 6 seconds - Changed the ability to allow it to be targeted in the fog of war. - Removed the cooldown. Brummbar: - Cost from 520mp/140fuel to 520mp/170fuel - Max distance scatter from 10 to 4.55 - Reload time from 9.75s to 8.25s - AOE from 6m to 5m. - Health from 1280 to 800 - Front armor from 175 to 200 - Acceleration from 1.5 to 2 - Target Size decreased from 24 to 22 - Max speed from 4.5 to 4.8 - 50% of the shell’s damage is applied on non-penetrating rounds against enemy armor. - Added a 1 in 3 chance of 5s crew shocked critical on target deflections Elefant: - Price from 520mp/220 fuel to 640mp/260 fuel - Front Armor from 270 to 400 - Pop cost from 13 to 16. 250 Halftrack: - Front armor from 25 to 11 and Rear armor from 15 to 5.5 - Health from 300 to 240 222 20mm Autocannon: - Increased AOE from 0.5 to 1 making this weapon a bit more effective against infantry. Opel Blitz Truck: - Health decreased from 300 to 160 - Armor reduced from 25/15 to 7/5 German 10.5cm Howitzer: - AOE Radius reduced from 9 to 7.5 Ostwind: - Price from 400mp/100fuel to 320mp/115 fuel - Build time from 40 to 50. - Pop cost from 10 to 8. - Scatter from 5 to 1.98 increases its accuracy. Panzerwerfer: - Increased ice damage from 55 to 75 - Acceleration from 3 to 3.75 - Max speed from 5.5 to 6 Panther: - Price from 560mp/150fuel to 440mp/165fuel - Pop from 14 to 11. - Health from 1280 to 960 - Rear Armor from 135 to 112.5 - Acceleration from 1.9 to 2.3 - Max speed from 5.2 to 5.5 - Range from 60m to 50m - Reduced the rotation rate from 30 to 27. Panzer IV Command Tank: - Price from 560mp/140 fuel to 360mp/125 fuel - Pop from 14 to 9. - Damage from 60 to 80 - Penetration from 50 to 55 - [Bug Fix] Range from 45 to 40 - Scatter from 5 to 5.6 Panzer IV: - Price from 480mp/120 fuel to 320mp/115 fuel - Pop from 12 to 8. - Reload time from 4.75s to 5.75s - Damage from 80 to 160 - Scatter from 7m to 6m - Acceleration from 2.8 to 2.4 - Max speed from 5.3 to 5.2 Stug: - Price from 400mp/85 fuel to 280mp/95 fuel - Scatter from 10m to 6.5m - Health from 640 to 480 - Target Size from 20 to 14 - Increased rotation from 20 to 22 - Area of Effect from .5m to 1.5m - Damage all in hold set to TRUE, similar to other AOE heavy weapons. This will allow the weapon’s Area of Effect damage to apply to targets inside a halftrack or scout car. - Main gun range from 60m to 50m - Reload time from 3s to 4s - Main gun penetration from 110 to 140. Tiger: - Price from 520mp/210 fuel to 600mp/250 fuel - Reload from 8.75s to 6.25s - Scatter from 10m to 6.8m - Area of Effect From 3.75m to 2.5m - Armor from 400 front/200 rear to 350 front/250 rear - Acceleration reduced from 1.5 to 1.25 - Max speed increased from 4.5 to 4.7 - Added a 1 in 5 chance for a 5 second crew shocked critical on target deflections - Main gun rotation from 19 to 17 KV-8: - Health increased from 640 to 960 - Armor decreased from 360 front/225 rear to 240 front/120 rear - Cost from 440mp/120 fuel to 360mp/135 fuel IS-2: - Armor from 400 front/200 rear to 375 front/225 rear - Pop from 14 to 16 - Health from 1280 to 960 - Price from 560mp/210fuel to 680mp/300fuel - Reload time from 8.25s to 9s - Scatter from 10m to 7.5m - Acceleration increased from 1.5 to 2 - Rotation rate increased from 25 to 30 - 1 in 6 chance of 5 second crew shocked critical on target deflections - Penetration increased from 110 to 140 - 25% of the shell’s damage is applied on non-penetrating rounds against enemy armor. ISU-152: - Price from 520mp/215 fuel to 680mp/290 fuel - Pop from 13 to 17. - Armor from 120 front/60 rear to 200 front/100 rear - Health from 1280 to 960 - AOE from 5m to 6m - Damage from 160 to 240 - Scatter from 10m to 13.2m - Reload from 6.125s to 10s - Penetration from 170 to 150 - Target Size from 24 to 26 - Acceleration from 1.5 to 2 - Max Speed from 4 to 3.8 - 33% of the shell’s damage is applied on non-penetrating rounds against enemy armor. - Added a 1 in 3 chance of crew shocked critical on deflections - Reduced main gun tracking speed from 25 to 12 - G-530 Concrete Piercing Round ability penetration increased to 1000 SU-76: - Price from 200mp/45 fuel to 160mp/55 fuel - Pop from 5 to 4 - Reload from 3.875s to 2.375s - Penetration from 75 to 93 SU-85: - Price from 440mp/90 fuel to 320mp/115 fuel - Pop from 11 to 8 - Front armor from 160 to 180 - Increased acceleration and max speed from 2 to 2.4 and from 5 to 5.3 - Increased Area of Effect from 0.5m to 1m T34/76: - Price from 280mp/75 fuel to 240mp/95 fuel - Pop from 7 to 6 - Acceleration from 2.5 to 2.8 - Rotation rate from 30 to 36 - Max speed from 5.6 to 5.8 - Rear armor from 57.5 to 70. - Main gun scatter from 7m to 5.1m T34/85: - Price from 360mp/100 fuel to 360mp/130 fuel - Health from 640 to 800 - Armor from 115 front to 124 front - Acceleration from 1.9 to 2.3 - Main gun scatter from 5m to 3.4m T70: - Price from 200mp/55 fuel to 160mp/55 fuel - Main gun scatter from 5m to 1.84m - Penetration from 50 to 45 - Reduced target size from 20 to 14 Dshk Tank and Bunker starting positions: - Increased penetration on DShk from 1 to 2. German MG42: - Increased nearby suppression multiplier from .4 -> .55. This applies 55% of the weapon’s suppression to nearby squads. - Increased nearby suppression radius rom 10 -> 12 - Decreased reload duration from 6 -> 5 - Increased reload frequency from 5 -> 7 source Will be interesting to see how the Soviet Heavies turn out. | ||
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Shottaz
United Kingdom414 Posts
Can't wait to do a few 1v1's later, I like the look of the changes. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
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IpKaiFung
United Kingdom91 Posts
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
IS-2 gets an armor nerf, a massive cost nerf (+120 mp + 90 fuel, that's HUGE), shoots slower, only slightly more accurate, slightly faster, and can occasionally stun now, but even the tiger is less expensive and far stronger panzer ivs are cheap as shit now t34s are more expensive (fuel wise) mg42s are even more hard to not get pinned in the one half decent soviet anti tank costs even more fuel to get out | ||
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FromShouri
United States862 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On June 14 2013 21:44 Caller wrote: so wait, german armor was broken, so they nerfed soviet armor and buffed german armor? The ISU152 is pretty good. The IS2 is utter shit because the kv8 is OP. On June 15 2013 00:14 Caller wrote: panther is cheaper and faster for a slight range decrease and slight health and armor nerf (and just the rear armor at that, which doesnt matter cuz its a fucking race car) IS-2 gets an armor nerf, a massive cost nerf (+120 mp + 90 fuel, that's HUGE), shoots slower, only slightly more accurate, slightly faster, and can occasionally stun now, but even the tiger is less expensive and far stronger panzer ivs are cheap as shit now t34s are more expensive (fuel wise) mg42s are even more hard to not get pinned in the one half decent soviet anti tank costs even more fuel to get out The range nerf on panzer is very significant. Now the typical soviet AT outranges it. | ||
mrmin123
Korea (South)2971 Posts
On June 13 2013 06:00 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: CoH2 is still using the peer to peer bullshit that has been in every other relic game in the past years. Connections being terrible is standard. Wow, really? Still? I can't wait to sit in lobby for 20 minutes trying to connect the last player of a 2:2 game only for it to fail and restart the whole matchmaking process over again...... | ||
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Zuxo
Sweden395 Posts
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
On June 15 2013 05:16 Zuxo wrote: I just don't understand how you are suppose to deal with the Germans late game now, I mean the ISU costs 290 gas (I think) which is just fucking insane. I guess Relic don't want Soviet to use tanks. You don't. If germans ever get tanks you're pretty fucked unless you have more than a 2 to 1 advantage. Of course they'll always say "just ram the panther then it's worthless!" yeah so is my tank. And that's assuming my tank makes it to your panther before your other tanks/mg/at stop it. The issue with the panther is how good it is at killing it's counter AND destroying infantry. You can get it to vet 3 ridiculously fast just rolling it around killing infantry. Compare that to an SU85 which is fucking horrendous at killing infantry. Put 1 panther against 1 team AT weapon and the panther wins. Put 2 su85 against the same weapon, and the SU85's get annihilated. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On June 15 2013 05:36 Infernal_dream wrote: You don't. If germans ever get tanks you're pretty fucked unless you have more than a 2 to 1 advantage. Of course they'll always say "just ram the panther then it's worthless!" yeah so is my tank. And that's assuming my tank makes it to your panther before your other tanks/mg/at stop it. The issue with the panther is how good it is at killing it's counter AND destroying infantry. You can get it to vet 3 ridiculously fast just rolling it around killing infantry. Compare that to an SU85 which is fucking horrendous at killing infantry. Put 1 panther against 1 team AT weapon and the panther wins. Put 2 su85 against the same weapon, and the SU85's get annihilated. Viewing units in isolation is your problem. Almost all of the soviet weapons are dual purpose and truly shine in combined arms situations. The T34/85 annihilates infantry after the patch to increase accuracy; try comparing that one to the panther. | ||
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