The Elder Scrolls Online - Page 30

On January 13 2014 04:29 Yrr wrote:

They tell me it is TES then of course I expect TES value included. I dont care about some random MMO.

On January 13 2014 05:25 OceanLab wrote:
Well, I've been playing the game for 10 hours straight and I loved it. Don't know what you peeps are talking about, quests aren't too linear, loads of dungeons to explore... More importantly, I didnt once look at my experience bar, and thats amazing for an MMO. Combat is nothing special its true, but I wouldnt call it bad. Overall good impression.

Btw I hope im not breaking any rules talking about the game :D

On January 13 2014 05:33 willoc wrote:
If you want an MMO quest experience this game is definitely for you. The skill system has a great design too. The PvP is supported well enough but the mechanics of combat make it just a bonus outside of the quest experience. Would love this if I wasn't so burnt out from MMO questing/grinding and if I had time to do that. Best of luck to the game but it does not revolutionize or advance PvP at all: be advised.

On January 13 2014 08:02 crms wrote:
wait people are praising the combat? i thought it was unintuitive and awful. I feel like my character is swimming in mud performing the most basic actions.

On January 13 2014 07:37 Avean wrote:
I think it beats the combat system of Guild Wars 2 and thats a impressive feat if you ask me. While GW2 can be extremely hectic and button mashy, ESO is very slow and you can focus more on defensive part of the game.
Blocking in this game which is active is really necessary. Fighting just a normal mob you will get stunned and pummeled to the ground if he lands a hit on you. But if you block it, he will get stunned. Also some mobs with shields and when they block u will get stunned as well. And you can roll away from attacks like GW2.

In PvP this must be extremely fun. The biggest issue i had with GW2 was it was too fast, in PvP there was an explosion of particle effects filling my screen. I couldnt focus on beeing skillfull with my Warrior, it ended up beeing button mashing. Watching a GW2 stream today i see the same thing. Its so totally different than ESO. ESO feels alot more mature and good, the devs have written that they plan to make it even more responsive so looking forward to that.

So i think they have nailed the world itself which is beatiful, questing is your typical MMO but the combat system will make this game a really good contender for todays MMO's. Really didnt expect that from Zenimax, they have actually done a good job on this.

On January 13 2014 08:10 Yrr wrote:

What is "the elder scrolls combat"?
In Oblivion I fought with a lot of blocking and hitting back at the right time. The fights took a long time but were really good. But in Skyrim all I did was heavy attacks until the enemy was dead and I didnt care about incoming hits or blocking.

On January 13 2014 08:28 TJ31 wrote:

And in Morrowind it was completely different as well. Skill/RNG based hits.. bleh.

Regarding TESO's combat. I also think it's pretty bad. Maybe it's not that bad compared to some old style mmos from early/mid 2000s, but it's still dull and boring.

If they won't fix a lot of stuff before release (and I don't see how they will be able to), I'd give it 6 to 10 months on P2P model.
All mmorpgs with major flaws went either F2P or B2P at best in the matter of months. SWTOR, FF14 1.0, Tera, TSW, AA (korean version only for now, but they switched to f2p in 3 months after p2p release).
Quick cash grab (selling boxes versions), then major transition to F2P with another launch/start to attract as much players as possible. Seen that plenty of times already.

On January 12 2014 18:32 Tobberoth wrote:
Following a rotation might not be the most fun thing in the world, but at least in WoWs combat you're doing something every second, you're evaluating as you go what skill to use, you react to procs and changing situations. There's a massive difference in dps between a good PvE DPS and a bad PvE DPS. This is fun combat. Spamming "sword swing" and watch a sword swing by in an FPS view, with a HP bar slowly going down is not fun combat.

On January 12 2014 21:36 Talin wrote:


That game could only ever sell to a subset of Dark Souls player and a subset of TES / general RPG players.

That style of combat is fine in a game that is about combat. Dark Souls is made to do one thing, and one thing only, and that justifies giving that one thing a lot of depth. Giving combat that much depth in a different game would only deliver all the frustration and none of the satisfaction it had in the original.

There are plenty of Skyrim mods that attempt to do the same thing, and in a lot of them combat looks really cool, fun and challenging for the first 10 minutes. But then after a brief honeymoon, you realize that having to pull deliberate tactics and precise timings to kill your 15th Wolf somewhere in the wilderness is nothing short of a hassle that wrecks the flow of the game and takes you out of character.

On January 12 2014 22:35 maartendq wrote:
Right now I don't know what The Elder Scrolls tries to be. The combat system has always been horrible but at least Morrowind compensated that by making an exciting world and main quest. Oblivion and Skyrim are plain boring. I mainly play Skyrim as a hiking simulator, and I've actually been wondering whether there is a console command that removes all enemies from the game.

On January 13 2014 11:20 Sufficiency wrote:
I have a question for those of you who played the beta....

How is combat handled? Is it tab-targetting or hitbox based? Is it more like TERA/Wildstar or WoW/GW1?

On January 13 2014 11:46 Hollow wrote:
Hmmm... I had some frustrating thing happen to me twice so far. I'm done playing because this is just dumb. I'm questing and following the objectives, and at some point I interact with one (this last one was a door inside the palace), and suddenly I'm being brought back to the character select screen instead of staying in game and progressing. So I click 'play' again on my character, and I'm suddenly all the way back to ~5 mins ago, having to do everything again. Is this some bug that's happened to others?