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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9558 Posts
December 23 2015 22:18 GMT
#3221
I just reinstalled this and had another playthrough planned in preparation for DS3 come April, and got the bright idea that I would played this time with a controller. What. A. Disaster. Borrowed a friend's PS4 controller for the holidays, downloaded Xbox 360 controller drivers, fired up DS4 windows, got everything to work perfectly then.... the controls kicked in. How do people even manage to turn with a controller is beyond me. It took me 12 minutes to get to the Asylum fatass up the stairs.
I keep mistaking the arrow keys for movement and find myself randomly putting away my axe in the middle of hollows. WTF
And don't even get me started on targeting (locking on) I just spent an hour trying to do so and gave up.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
A_needle_jog
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
Korea (South)699 Posts
December 23 2015 22:29 GMT
#3222
On December 24 2015 07:18 Latham wrote:
I just reinstalled this and had another playthrough planned in preparation for DS3 come April, and got the bright idea that I would played this time with a controller. What. A. Disaster. Borrowed a friend's PS4 controller for the holidays, downloaded Xbox 360 controller drivers, fired up DS4 windows, got everything to work perfectly then.... the controls kicked in. How do people even manage to turn with a controller is beyond me. It took me 12 minutes to get to the Asylum fatass up the stairs.
I keep mistaking the arrow keys for movement and find myself randomly putting away my axe in the middle of hollows. WTF
And don't even get me started on targeting (locking on) I just spent an hour trying to do so and gave up.


I am a die-hard PC Keyboard and Mouse player and I refuse to play third person/first person games with a controller, but Souls/Bloodborne is pretty great with a controller.

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DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
May 22 2016 20:11 GMT
#3223
Guys guys! I made it in less than two hours! Without Duke Skip, which I still can't really pull off consistently!

I don't know anyone else who would appreciate it, so I thought I'd post it here.
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solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
May 22 2016 20:39 GMT
#3224
On May 23 2016 05:11 DickMcFanny wrote:
Guys guys! I made it in less than two hours! Without Duke Skip, which I still can't really pull off consistently!

I don't know anyone else who would appreciate it, so I thought I'd post it here.

Very nice! Two hours is impressive, are you using black halberd?
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
May 22 2016 20:50 GMT
#3225
No, I'm using Gravelord Sword because I don't want to fuck around with save files.

I know it's easy enough, but it feels a bit like cheating.
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Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3684 Posts
October 09 2016 15:34 GMT
#3226
Bumping this thread in case anyone is willing to help a new player. I just started my first Dark Souls game (Prepare to Die Edition) and I would appreciate any tips.

I don't want a walkthrough persay. I would like to spend my time exploring the world, fighting, and dying. But I would feel better if I had tips on some of the bigger concepts so that I don't spend 30 hours trying to get to an area that I shouldn't bother with. I also don't have hundreds of hours to spend on the game so I don't want to have to re-invent the wheel. (I'd rather beat it in 50-100 hours and move on to Dark Souls 2)

In brief, I'm looking for a guide/instruction on:

- general combat tips
- overall ideas/concepts to make the game easier

If anyone can link me to a useful guide, or provide me with some tips, I'd really appreciate it.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
October 09 2016 16:08 GMT
#3227
Weapons are almost always a matter of personal preference. Find something you like using and keep it upgraded (once you are able to do so). Upgrading weapons is generally the quickest way to get more power out of them.

Personal opinion, but when you're leveling your stats up, only put enough Str and Dex to wield the weapon you want and focus the rest on Vitality and Endurance. Most helpful for a first playthrough.

Talk to NPCs and pay attention to the dialogue. They'll tend to give you a hand on where to go earlier on in the game. There's a couple paths that can lead you off track. If you find yourself in an area that's kicking your ass, you're probably not supposed to be there yet (I mean, the whole game is supposed to be "difficult", but you'll be able to tell the difference between tough but manageable and "wow it'll take 10 hits to kill each of these guys this is probably wrong")

It's ok to be reliant on a shield when you're newer to the game, but don't be afraid to dodge/roll too. Once you get used to many enemies/bosses and their attack patterns, rolling often gives you more openings to get damage in (and lets you lose the weight of a shield, once you're confident enough lol).

Most importantly, and perhaps most difficult, don't be afraid to die. I don't mean that in the cliche "lol you'll die hundreds of times" way, but rather don't be too upset if you die with a lot of souls and lose them. You'll get plenty enough from bosses and as enemies get stronger to make up for any big piles you might lose along the way.
phantomlancer23
Profile Joined May 2013
730 Posts
October 09 2016 16:08 GMT
#3228
On October 10 2016 00:34 Durak wrote:
Bumping this thread in case anyone is willing to help a new player. I just started my first Dark Souls game (Prepare to Die Edition) and I would appreciate any tips.

I don't want a walkthrough persay. I would like to spend my time exploring the world, fighting, and dying. But I would feel better if I had tips on some of the bigger concepts so that I don't spend 30 hours trying to get to an area that I shouldn't bother with. I also don't have hundreds of hours to spend on the game so I don't want to have to re-invent the wheel. (I'd rather beat it in 50-100 hours and move on to Dark Souls 2)

In brief, I'm looking for a guide/instruction on:

- general combat tips
- overall ideas/concepts to make the game easier

If anyone can link me to a useful guide, or provide me with some tips, I'd really appreciate it.


The most important thing that can go wrong for a new player its the weapons upgrades.You can fully upgrade only 2-3 weapons in a normal playthrough so dont waste the materials for upgrade.Weapons upgrades are way more important than armor upgrades.Find a good weapon from the start that can go through all game something like zwaihander or claymore for strength or uchigatana for dexterity and upgrade it max as soon as possible.Dont upgrade weapons that arent usefull in long terms.Have at least one max upgraded with physical damage because the bosses in dlc are the most dificult in the whole game and they have magic resistance.See this guide how troublesome is weapons upgrades in ds1.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11405 Posts
October 09 2016 17:34 GMT
#3229
On October 10 2016 01:08 phantomlancer23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 00:34 Durak wrote:
Bumping this thread in case anyone is willing to help a new player. I just started my first Dark Souls game (Prepare to Die Edition) and I would appreciate any tips.

I don't want a walkthrough persay. I would like to spend my time exploring the world, fighting, and dying. But I would feel better if I had tips on some of the bigger concepts so that I don't spend 30 hours trying to get to an area that I shouldn't bother with. I also don't have hundreds of hours to spend on the game so I don't want to have to re-invent the wheel. (I'd rather beat it in 50-100 hours and move on to Dark Souls 2)

In brief, I'm looking for a guide/instruction on:

- general combat tips
- overall ideas/concepts to make the game easier

If anyone can link me to a useful guide, or provide me with some tips, I'd really appreciate it.


The most important thing that can go wrong for a new player its the weapons upgrades.You can fully upgrade only 2-3 weapons in a normal playthrough so dont waste the materials for upgrade.Weapons upgrades are way more important than armor upgrades.Find a good weapon from the start that can go through all game something like zwaihander or claymore for strength or uchigatana for dexterity and upgrade it max as soon as possible.Dont upgrade weapons that arent usefull in long terms.Have at least one max upgraded with physical damage because the bosses in dlc are the most dificult in the whole game and they have magic resistance.See this guide how troublesome is weapons upgrades in ds1.
www.youtube.com


Totally don't agree on that. Especially the early upgrade materials are infinite. The only things you really need to worry about are the two highest levels of materials (Chunks and Slabs), every thing else can be bought for souls at some point (and thus farmed).

On a first playthrough, experiment with weapons. Look at their movesets, and use a weapon that you like the moveset of. Almost all weapons are viable, though of course there are some that are better than other in maxed settings (they are often not that easy to find though)

If you have a weapon that you like, keep it upgraded. Upgrading weapons makes a lot of stuff easier. Shields are good for new players, because they allow you to feel save, and play slow and methodical. Parrying and dodging are amazing once you get used to them, but that takes a lot of effort.

Regarding areas you shouldn't go to, as was said before, take a look at how hard stuff is, and if it feels too hard, try going elsewhere. At the start of the game, you should be fighting zombie-like dudes, not skeletons. If you are fighting skeletons, you are going the wrong way (Happened to me on my first playthrough. I stopped for month because i thought "WTF how hard is this game?"

You could look up recommended area progression if you feel that you are going the wrong way, but it should not be necessary most of the time (You will miss some areas though, there are some pretty hidden ones)

It can be useful to look up bonfire locations. This is one of the things that frustrated me intensely. I often had to redo extremely large areas. (I missed the bonfire at the bottom in blighttown. I missed the bonfire in sens fortress. I was very good at not finding bonfires, and that was very annoying. Learning a boss and having to run two bonfires worth of trash to get to them isn't fun)
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3684 Posts
October 09 2016 18:37 GMT
#3230
Thanks for the help guys. I'm honestly more reassured now after reading those posts and playing through the first small area.

The game runs smoother than I thought it would without mods. Also, it seems to play fine with a controller, but I bet it could be frustrating with mouse+keyboard.

It seems like I don't lose souls when I die (so long as I go back and retrieve them?) That's not nearly as penalizing as I thought it would be. Maybe it'll be worse when I can't get back to the place I died, or if I die in a place where I can't retrieve them.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11405 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-09 18:48:56
October 09 2016 18:48 GMT
#3231
You lose all of the souls lying on the ground when you die a second time before retrieving your souls. Which can happen easily in some of the harder areas.

Always controller.
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
October 09 2016 18:59 GMT
#3232
Also use DSfix if you aren't already. Makes game just better.
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
phantomlancer23
Profile Joined May 2013
730 Posts
October 09 2016 19:11 GMT
#3233
@simberto titanites are becoming infinite when they are outdated, use your slab in a shield and then go to anor londo with the +4 small titanite weapon its bad.If you want your damage to be as effective as possible you should focus in maxing 1 weapon first.
No Swear
Profile Joined October 2016
51 Posts
October 09 2016 20:44 GMT
#3234
On October 10 2016 00:34 Durak wrote:
Bumping this thread in case anyone is willing to help a new player. I just started my first Dark Souls game (Prepare to Die Edition) and I would appreciate any tips.

I don't want a walkthrough persay. I would like to spend my time exploring the world, fighting, and dying. But I would feel better if I had tips on some of the bigger concepts so that I don't spend 30 hours trying to get to an area that I shouldn't bother with. I also don't have hundreds of hours to spend on the game so I don't want to have to re-invent the wheel. (I'd rather beat it in 50-100 hours and move on to Dark Souls 2)

In brief, I'm looking for a guide/instruction on:

- general combat tips
- overall ideas/concepts to make the game easier

If anyone can link me to a useful guide, or provide me with some tips, I'd really appreciate it.


For a single playthrough of the game without any PvP aspirations, anything goes. Also, unlike many other games, this game gets easier the further you get, not harder. If you're struggling the first couple hours, but are enticed, just keep at it

For game+'s and PvP consult guides if you dont have many, many hours to spend.

Just my 2 cents
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
October 09 2016 21:02 GMT
#3235
On October 10 2016 03:37 Durak wrote:
Thanks for the help guys. I'm honestly more reassured now after reading those posts and playing through the first small area.

The game runs smoother than I thought it would without mods. Also, it seems to play fine with a controller, but I bet it could be frustrating with mouse+keyboard.

It seems like I don't lose souls when I die (so long as I go back and retrieve them?) That's not nearly as penalizing as I thought it would be. Maybe it'll be worse when I can't get back to the place I died, or if I die in a place where I can't retrieve them.


Yeah that's the idea. And you can spend souls to minimize the hurt when you die (always enter a bossfight or new area with 0 souls). But losing all your humanity can really suck (number in the upper right, used to kindle bonfires, become human, and also affects item discovery and some other things).

Do you know about the really important items? Like, don't eat firekeeper souls. Bad news if you do.

And upgrading is key. You can upgrade basically anything to level 5 if you want to grind a little early on before blighttown, which allows you to experiment easily. Never upgrade armor until your weapon is max upgraded with the upgrade material type.

Also, I beat DS1 on PC with M+K, no DS fix, and I'm no beast at these games, so it's doable. But you have to get really good at fighting without lockon.
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2551 Posts
October 10 2016 07:32 GMT
#3236
Why without locking on?
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
October 10 2016 09:22 GMT
#3237
On October 10 2016 16:32 gTank wrote:
Why without locking on?


With a mouse, the lockon switching in DS1 is ultra sensitive (this is fixed in the later games). Like, just a pixel or two of adjustment and you switch targets. If there's only one, you're fine. But with even two opponents, you rapidly flicker from one to the next, which fucks up your animations and movement in a serious way. So pretty much any group of two or more enemies is really hard to manage with M+K without a mod. You can't move properly, can't aim right. So you just have to do it without lockon. Which is easier against some enemies than others. Unfortunately, it sucks for weapons like the rapier, which require a bit of precision in aiming that can be tricky in some fights. But I used longsword to beat all three games, so I mostly slashed, using the thrust in special situations. (For instance, if you string out all the enemies in a hallway or bridge, you can use the thrust, and even lockon since it doesn't fuck up your aim too much. Lockon is also really useful in those situations, since without it you can't backpedal while guarding without it.)
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
October 10 2016 10:51 GMT
#3238
You can also play with only keyboard and lock on works just fine.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
October 10 2016 13:09 GMT
#3239
or get a controller like a normal person
the precision of mouse and keyboard has no benefit in this game
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34169 Posts
October 10 2016 13:17 GMT
#3240
get a controller
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
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