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woody60707
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1863 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 19:39:06
March 11 2013 19:38 GMT
#961
So is anyone going to take over my town in TL Ohana? I owe so much bond debt. I can never use it.

I never touched any of the oil or coal on the map.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 20:15:21
March 11 2013 20:00 GMT
#962
On March 11 2013 23:09 Chronald wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 22:32 adwodon wrote:
On March 11 2013 22:10 Dbars wrote:
This game is way to expensive 60 bucks is too much for any game now of days imo.


Dont buy it then.

$60 is pretty cheap considering the amount of work that goes into making AAA games these days.

If you want cheap avoid AAA, you can't hoist ever increasing standards on developers then expect to pay less, that's just stupid.

The indie / low budget market is thriving so you really have no reason to complain about pricing at the moment when there are some really fantastic games out there for less than $10-20 on release.


Problem is, SimCity 2013 is NOT a AAA game.

It lacks in almost every way, and the gameplay itself is a major step down from its (over 10 year old) previous games.

AAA is a measure of money put into a project =p learn to use the term correctly. It signifies a class of games in which cost of production is over X amount of dollars(i think now of days somewhere above 8mil) it used to mean just made by an approved publisher to a system but that no longer holds significance to quality of game, due to consolidation of publishers and formation into subsidiaries. It's a term used to apply to upcoming titles in order as a broad description of probably quality.
On March 12 2013 04:33 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 04:02 Caphe wrote:
On March 12 2013 03:49 jinorazi wrote:
with all the skepticism i was holding off but coudlnt resist. i havnt had any problems with it, granted i've only had one sitting.
the first map after restarting it was gone, i hope the last city i worked on is not deleted but no biggie, still learning process.

i havnt had any problem with traffic as others have reported, then again i'm doing everything in squares like old school.
i tried with circles and they dont draw as i want to and curvy roads seem to waste a lot of space unless its plopped down accurately leaving rooms for development.

i have maxis and dr. vu (super hero vs villian i think), is this universal for everyone? i got standard, not deluxe version.
i also got attacked by zombies lol

The Maxis vs Dr.Vu is called Limited edtion but there is no standard edition so that is the standard version. Its just marketing that EA name the game that way. The deluxe would include some signature structures such as Big Bell and Effiel tower etc...

Also the nature disaster will do very little damage to your city unlike previous games. I got Zombie, UFO, Earth Quake on one of my city and still processing well. You gets zombie cos there are lots of germs in your city, try to build a hospital and clean it up, beware that the maintainance for hospital is very high, it may screw your budget.


Are you kidding? I think natural disasters in this game are retarded. A dinosaur just walked through 2 of 3 Trading HQ buildings and I have to bulldoze the entire fucking thing down which is like 1mil. An earthquake took my pop down from 440k to 380k and I have yet to get that back.

Earthquake is def more consistently a bad nat disaster to occur. Anyways Nat disasters is a mainstay of the series it keeps things a bit honest and adds a little bit of random to building a city which is even more important now due to the removal of terraforming. That being said sometimes you just get ruined by one.
On March 12 2013 05:07 Hadley88 wrote:
SimCity seems more like a 60$ "Facebook"-Game. At least EA got shitstormed like never before for this terrible Game/DRM.
Seems like all you ever post in this thread is [simcity(2013) sucks]. how is this productive? criticism is valid but criticism without measures of remedy or elaboration is not constructive and is just bitching.
Hadley88
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany267 Posts
March 11 2013 20:07 GMT
#963
SimCity seems more like a 60$ "Facebook"-Game. At least EA got shitstormed like never before for this terrible Game/DRM.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
March 11 2013 20:19 GMT
#964
On March 12 2013 05:07 Hadley88 wrote:
SimCity seems more like a 60$ "Facebook"-Game. At least EA got shitstormed like never before for this terrible Game/DRM.


Disagree? EA deserves all the shit they got for always-on DRM screwing over their launch and disrupting the play experience, but the game is pretty enjoyable once you get into it and can play. Even if it's not your cup of tea or you prefer previous installments of SimCity, calling it a $60 "Facebook" game is just dumb. It has way more depth than any Facebook game. After playing it I would say a $40 price tag would probably be more appropriate, but I understand why they didn't go for that.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
March 11 2013 20:43 GMT
#965
the game is very enjoyable and maxis seems to be motivated to fix pathfinding and other bugs.

Once those are finished, the game will be very nice to play. Its different from simcity 4, yes. But its enjoyable and also difficult in its own way.
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 21:08:43
March 11 2013 21:07 GMT
#966
For those who are interested in the game, but doesn't want to pay $60 for it, here's how to chop that price in half.

Change your region to India!
Digital Deluxe $47 / Limited Edition $28

Disclaimer: This still works last night, but I haven't been keeping up with the thread.
Regardless, it doesn't hurt to try and check out the price before actually buying.
靈魂交響曲
FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
March 11 2013 21:10 GMT
#967
Any EU players up for playing together in a region? PM me! Currently trying to build int airport in my own region but I'm up for starting fresh too.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
March 11 2013 22:24 GMT
#968
On March 12 2013 01:24 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 01:15 TOCHMY wrote:
is any1 else having trouble actually playing with others? all games i search for are full "created 6 days ago" and nobody join my games T_T


yeah, they disabled the updating on "join game"...







so, traffic is really broken, my sims take the longer congested route, even when its at red.
(most of them want to go to the northern map, they do this route even when it becomes red)

[image loading]




The game uses a simple "take shortest path" algorithm, so that might be the shortest path to get to the northern part of your city. If theres no symmetry in your roads, then they will continue using that dirt road as opposed to the avenue. The gridlock and commute problem will always exist, in reality and Sim City... Sim City 4 had sims take the most "direct" route, which was worse as it didn't make sense.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4289 Posts
March 11 2013 22:28 GMT
#969
On March 12 2013 04:02 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 03:49 jinorazi wrote:
with all the skepticism i was holding off but coudlnt resist. i havnt had any problems with it, granted i've only had one sitting.
the first map after restarting it was gone, i hope the last city i worked on is not deleted but no biggie, still learning process.

i havnt had any problem with traffic as others have reported, then again i'm doing everything in squares like old school.
i tried with circles and they dont draw as i want to and curvy roads seem to waste a lot of space unless its plopped down accurately leaving rooms for development.

i have maxis and dr. vu (super hero vs villian i think), is this universal for everyone? i got standard, not deluxe version.
i also got attacked by zombies lol

The Maxis vs Dr.Vu is called Limited edtion but there is no standard edition so that is the standard version. Its just marketing that EA name the game that way. The deluxe would include some signature structures such as Big Bell and Effiel tower etc...

Also the nature disaster will do very little damage to your city unlike previous games. I got Zombie, UFO, Earth Quake on one of my city and still processing well. You gets zombie cos there are lots of germs in your city, try to build a hospital and clean it up, beware that the maintainance for hospital is very high, it may screw your budget.


Second time I quote you to say there are 3 versions. Standard, Limited and Deluxe. There IS a standard version. Just go look in amazon uk you have the limited and the standard there (~54 and ~37£ respectively).
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
woody60707
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1863 Posts
March 11 2013 22:30 GMT
#970
Well lets be honest, For 90% of drivers, it is just as simple as take the shortest path. And for that person who is always like "I know a short cut" (you know who you are), your short cut never works!
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
March 11 2013 22:37 GMT
#971
They should factor commute times and density within the algorithm, since they do have a data system for that. Then the sims might utilize all the roads accordingly. I don't think traffic or vehicle accidents occur in Sim City 2013. Contrary to SC4 where it occurs frequently, which was pretty humorous.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
eZmode
Profile Joined January 2011
United States52 Posts
March 11 2013 22:59 GMT
#972
Hey guys, are there any regions in US East 4 that I can join? Playing alone is kind of sad
Why do today what you can leave for tomorrow?
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
March 11 2013 23:22 GMT
#973
On March 12 2013 06:07 Fishball wrote:
For those who are interested in the game, but doesn't want to pay $60 for it, here's how to chop that price in half.

Change your region to India!
Digital Deluxe $47 / Limited Edition $28

Disclaimer: This still works last night, but I haven't been keeping up with the thread.
Regardless, it doesn't hurt to try and check out the price before actually buying.

They removed Sim City from the Indian shop, it seems. You can still buy all other games for cheap Indian prices. Just not Sim City.

I'm really wondering if that means that you simply cannot buy the game in India anymore now. That would be hilarious.
woody60707
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1863 Posts
March 11 2013 23:22 GMT
#974
On March 12 2013 07:59 eZmode wrote:
Hey guys, are there any regions in US East 4 that I can join? Playing alone is kind of sad



Lets be honest, after today, no one from this site will be playing SimCity for a while.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 23:43:04
March 11 2013 23:39 GMT
#975
On March 12 2013 07:24 Disregard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 01:24 LaNague wrote:
On March 12 2013 01:15 TOCHMY wrote:
is any1 else having trouble actually playing with others? all games i search for are full "created 6 days ago" and nobody join my games T_T


yeah, they disabled the updating on "join game"...







so, traffic is really broken, my sims take the longer congested route, even when its at red.
(most of them want to go to the northern map, they do this route even when it becomes red)

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]





The game uses a simple "take shortest path" algorithm, so that might be the shortest path to get to the northern part of your city. If theres no symmetry in your roads, then they will continue using that dirt road as opposed to the avenue. The gridlock and commute problem will always exist, in reality and Sim City... Sim City 4 had sims take the most "direct" route, which was worse as it didn't make sense.



i dont think so.

same semi-mathematical argument is valid for the other intersection.
to make it 100% mathematical, apply integration rules. But i think its pretty obvious in this case. This is also almost top-down view, barely any perspective in this.

[image loading]




semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 23:53:56
March 11 2013 23:44 GMT
#976
On March 12 2013 07:30 woody60707 wrote:
Well lets be honest, For 90% of drivers, it is just as simple as take the shortest path. And for that person who is always like "I know a short cut" (you know who you are), your short cut never works!

Traffic seems realistic to me(lives in cali...)
On March 12 2013 07:37 Disregard wrote:
They should factor commute times and density within the algorithm, since they do have a data system for that. Then the sims might utilize all the roads accordingly. I don't think traffic or vehicle accidents occur in Sim City 2013. Contrary to SC4 where it occurs frequently, which was pretty humorous.

I think there is a glitch though where vehicles get stuck on each other when one wants to turn left and one wants to turn right when they are on the same road going in the same direction the 2 or 3 wide roads. I've seen it 3 times i've had to restart the instance when it's happened to clear it up. SC2013 problems with traffics is much more visibly pronounced because now each car is it's own vs just an simulation of the road.

And it's not always take shortest rout they take an alternative rout when possible if both sides of the road are red not just one side which is not usually how traffic occurs. And that is insufficient as it just fills up another street trying to get to the same spot somewhere on the totally gridlocked road so it just grid locks more routs to the same place.

At the moment i avoid certain things high capacity gambling dens and high density commercial buildings. High density commercial buildings kill you so bad in traffic, they only accept 1 car at a time in or out and they can take so many cars it creates a point on the road where cars want to all go but the flow rate is so low that it creates traffic. I also break up where commercial buildings are placed concentrating them also causes traffic problems. The idea i build roads around is to break up places of interest to try to spread the traffic out. Although even then there are still sometimes where traffic occurs for various reasons, such as U turns at intersections so either you have to flood the area with intersections or place buildings as to not encourages u turns.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
March 11 2013 23:45 GMT
#977
the algorithm looks like it has zero in the way of load calculations which is, quite frankly, a ridiculous oversight. this is like, basic networking.
starleague forever
LeaF_SD
Profile Joined March 2009
United States113 Posts
March 11 2013 23:52 GMT
#978
On March 12 2013 07:59 eZmode wrote:
Hey guys, are there any regions in US East 4 that I can join? Playing alone is kind of sad


come to us west 4. TL got another region up
"Idra did tremendously well, and he didn't even call the woman a faggot once" - floor exercise
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
March 11 2013 23:55 GMT
#979
On March 12 2013 05:07 Hadley88 wrote:
SimCity seems more like a 60$ "Facebook"-Game. At least EA got shitstormed like never before for this terrible Game/DRM.


It does look an awful lot like Farmville which copie simfarm from maxis
So simcity looks like simcity lol xD

Btw I'm on sc2 hots and everything single player (at least) is working
We can oficially say blizzard is less evil than EA =P
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
March 11 2013 23:58 GMT
#980
On March 12 2013 08:45 a176 wrote:
the algorithm looks like it has zero in the way of load calculations which is, quite frankly, a ridiculous oversight. this is like, basic networking.


I always use calculus to solve load calculations before planning my route to work in the morning. having perfect information is awesome.
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
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