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AssyrianKing
Australia2116 Posts
So a way to get this post mainstream is to go to this link http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=219015 And demand our thread be listed on the TL Community Threads section!!! Come on guys I need your help!! YALLAH!! :D | ||
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babylon
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On April 21 2012 04:43 Holcan wrote: nah, vs elf you should almost always open ghouls first. the standard is to get 22-26 food in ghouls to help in defense, tech and get a graveyard, build fiends, so 6-8 ghouls, dk, 3 fiends, naga sea witch. this is strong enough to tech to tier 3, it is your mid game army, and get slaughter house for some stats for mana and health regen, and at tier 3 get your third statue and destro research, as well as a lich with orb. this works exceptionally well vs tavern hero builds. and is great for nuking a hero out of the fight if they get out of position. the basic strat is this. your ghouls counter archers, and naga adds to their dps(no running), you get 3 fiends to counter his dryads, and when he gets tier three and bears you have your destro to steal rejuvs and counter the bears. tgus gives you a mobile army that can bank while denying expansions. if he breaks 50 before you, you can scout and counter accordingly because you will fare fine down food by just running away and nuking constantly. just remember, if anyone gets an expansion against ud, you are pretty much fucked. oh yea, if you can't get level 2 before tier two, boots for the naga isn't a bad idea. the other build is ghouls->gargs war of attrition style that I went over earlier. basically you open crypt, altar, zig, shop, zig (or 2nd crypt if you want to ghoul rush). I'd be happy to show you a couple variations of openings sometime. Thanks! And no worries. I actually have a ton of replays I ganked off replays.net, so I'll just look those up and copy as best I can. There are only two-three builds with very slight variations as far as I can tell? Standard fiends, TeD fiends, and then a straight ghoul opening with yard @ ~75-80% T2 completion, another crypt for mass gargs, etc.? Is the destroyer push worth trying against HU anymore? I remember it being pretty popular a while back, but it's pretty much disappeared recently, and I can't even find replays of it anymore. | ||
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Holcan
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iNCuBuS_
United States905 Posts
 That said, request to join sent, can't wait to get a few games in when I have time  | ||
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AssyrianKing
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rebdomine
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windsupernova
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AssyrianKing
Australia2116 Posts
And rebdomine please check again | ||
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jeeeeohn
United States1343 Posts
anyone who does it needs to uninstall fucking ridiculous herp derp target buildings herp derp fuuuuck Edit: let me clarify before anyone reports this post. I quit playing WC3 because of mass tanks. As an Undead player it's impossible to stop because no unit you have does enough damage to kill them. But even as any other race it's just as impossible. It bypasses half of the game which is army control and engagement. HERP DERP TARGET BUILDINGS WIN IS NOT HOW YOU PLAY THIS GAME. Maybe I should be better. But massing tanks and a-moving into a base is retarded. You read that? RETARDED. Fucking hell it makes me rage. | ||
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ohsea.toc
Australia344 Posts
As NE, same deal, golem, glaives (though you don't see these often), and talons for faerie fire. | ||
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Tchado
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babylon
8765 Posts
On April 26 2012 10:10 jeeeeohn wrote: oh hey fuck mass tanks anyone who does it needs to uninstall fucking ridiculous herp derp target buildings herp derp fuuuuck Edit: let me clarify before anyone reports this post. I quit playing WC3 because of mass tanks. As an Undead player it's impossible to stop because no unit you have does enough damage to kill them. But even as any other race it's just as impossible. It bypasses half of the game which is army control and engagement. HERP DERP TARGET BUILDINGS WIN IS NOT HOW YOU PLAY THIS GAME. Maybe I should be better. But massing tanks and a-moving into a base is retarded. You read that? RETARDED. Fucking hell it makes me rage. Sim city, panda, lich with orb, frosts, meat wagons. Even ghouls do okay vs. tanks. All of these can help. If they're going mass tank btw, they will basically have no army (as I'm sure you've noticed). You should harass a ton and try to delay his expo early-game and try not to let him get too many towers up; if HU goes T3, you should prepare to get bombarded by tanks since there is almost no other reason to go T3 for HU (except for knights/gryphs, and they're both pretty shitty vs. UD). Really, if you can delay his expo enough, you should be able to kill him before he has enough tanks out if you don't suicide your army into towers. If you want to practice, feel free to hit me up after next Thursday (lol midterms). No time to play until then, but I'd be willing to play a few games with you, if you don't mind grinding some mass hunt games with me. ^^; | ||
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AssyrianKing
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iNCuBuS_
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Manit0u
Poland17469 Posts
On April 27 2012 01:00 babylon wrote: Sim city, panda, lich with orb, frosts, meat wagons. Even ghouls do okay vs. tanks. All of these can help. If they're going mass tank btw, they will basically have no army (as I'm sure you've noticed). You should harass a ton and try to delay his expo early-game and try not to let him get too many towers up; if HU goes T3, you should prepare to get bombarded by tanks since there is almost no other reason to go T3 for HU (except for knights/gryphs, and they're both pretty shitty vs. UD). Really, if you can delay his expo enough, you should be able to kill him before he has enough tanks out if you don't suicide your army into towers. If you want to practice, feel free to hit me up after next Thursday (lol midterms). No time to play until then, but I'd be willing to play a few games with you, if you don't mind grinding some mass hunt games with me. ^^; Yup, mass tanks is annoying but you can pretty much stop it cold with ghouls and wagons while your heroes go an a rampage in enemy main. You can then transition nicely into necrowagon which is pretty damn good against HU most of the time (as they can't tower-up in their base and feel safe). The only problem arises when they transition from tanks to gryphon riders (or vice versa), but those you should be able to counter with gargs or destros. All things considered, ghouls are a lot safer to go for as UD vs HU than fiends. He can't rush you as easily with footies early, if he's just towering and making tanks you're already winning as you just creep the entire map and have ghouls to stop the tanks. You should never skimp on shades vs HU though, this way you can spy any gayness early on. | ||
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
On March 06 2012 04:43 TheWorldToCome wrote: There's a group on Garena, the group ID is 40007 how do I join this group? edit: ok, I downloaded garena+ and sent a request. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
I'd say the standard army of fiends, stats, aboms, destro, wyrm, tri hero for offense, and ghouls, golem and a wagon per base. remember, saving 2 zigs for a tp is a good trade if you kill two tanks. if they switch to gyros, you already have the fiends. | ||
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rebdomine
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On April 28 2012 22:15 iNCuBuS_ wrote: What time do people usually play on Garena? The few times I have been on (instead of away) there has not been any activity I rarely catch people on too. lol. Although I think that's my timezone more than anything else. GMT+8 lol. | ||
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AssyrianKing
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TheWorldToCome
United States452 Posts
On May 06 2012 12:39 PiPoGevy wrote: Guys it has gotten to the point that the TeamLiquid group on Garena is quite full, I cannot upgrade it as it costs money, I strongly reccomend we switch to Battle.Net and create a CLAN on there Yes, lets create a TL clan on Bnet pl0x. | ||
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