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The link only goes to an empty "highlights" list. Any chance you could provide the specific broadcast if it's even still up on their twitch channel. Sounds awesome ^^
I've had no luck finding it myself so far.
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I just dug this out again since i have not spent as much time with it as i think it is worth, especially compared to EU3. It makes you really realize just how insane nobility as a political system is. Of course this is not a 100% simulation of reality.
But i just spent about 15 years murdering every brother the betrothed of my son got to make sure that she inherits 2 duchies so my grandson can then inherit those afterwards.
Meanwhile i get voted to be the Emperor just because apparently everyone hated each other so much that they'd rather vote for me then have each other be emperor, and since i was already 55 they did not expect me to last long anyways. This lead to the utter destruction of the empire because i died in the middle of a three-pronged war between nobles who want independence, outsiders who want parts of the empire, and me as the emperor trying to keep everything together. My son managed to die even before that, so now my 9-year old grandson whom i somehow managed to get onto the imperial throne again has to somehow reconsolidate this mess, while everyone hates him because he is young.
And apparently i have to find a way to murder my brother now because otherwise he will inherit my mothers titles. Had my father not died too early one could have solved this by making my brother a monk, which would be the reasonable thing to do. And i have to survive long enough to get children again, or my dynasty ends here.
Basically, Aristocracy as a government system sucks. But it is a lot of fun.
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Holy shit this game is good. Took me the whole weekend just to figure out what the fuck was even going on (and I still don't know half of what I'm doing) but the game design seems to be extremely well done. Can't wait to try the Game of Thrones Mod as well.
BTW- The game and a bunch of its DLC is on sale on Steam atm.
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On February 18 2013 12:08 Erik.TheRed wrote:
Holy shit this game is good. Took me the whole weekend just to figure out what the fuck was even going on (and I still don't know half of what I'm doing) but the game design seems to be extremely well done. Can't wait to try the Game of Thrones Mod as well.
BTW- The game and a bunch of its DLC is on sale on Steam atm.
With a name like that, you must be excited for the upcoming DLC!
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On February 18 2013 12:08 Erik.TheRed wrote:
Holy shit this game is good. Took me the whole weekend just to figure out what the fuck was even going on (and I still don't know half of what I'm doing) but the game design seems to be extremely well done. Can't wait to try the Game of Thrones Mod as well.
BTW- The game and a bunch of its DLC is on sale on Steam atm.
That mod is oodles of fun 
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On February 18 2013 13:36 sharkeyanti wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2013 12:08 Erik.TheRed wrote:
Holy shit this game is good. Took me the whole weekend just to figure out what the fuck was even going on (and I still don't know half of what I'm doing) but the game design seems to be extremely well done. Can't wait to try the Game of Thrones Mod as well.
BTW- The game and a bunch of its DLC is on sale on Steam atm. With a name like that, you must be excited for the upcoming DLC!
YES when my friend told me that the pagans will soon be available I almost jumped off my chair
I haven't even started to play around with the DLC/mods yet though. Still scrubbing it up in Ireland trying to learn the ropes at this point!
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Well, I've had an interesting experience as Timbuktu, starting at the third crusade. Quickly formed the kingdom of Mali and decided that only my sons get duchies (and everything under them) while everyone else gets imprisoned and banished.
Turns out keeping yourself alive when everyone has -180 opinion against you for being a tyrant. Not to mention the succession crisis every time the despot dies because I immediately try imprisoning the new ruler's brothers.
It got a bit stale after I hit the Almohad sultanate and didn't have anywhere to expand, unfortunately, but it was good fun while it lasted.
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Well you can play as the pagans with mods already. But perhaps the experience will be better streamlined with the DLC. CK2 is so complicated at first but once you get it down it's a snap.
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Personally, I'm looking forward to the 867 AD starting date. The Kingdom of England hasn't been created yet, so the British Isles should be a fun little playground to cause havoc in.
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Quick question-- what exactly is the point of my main character's "opinion" number on other characters? I thought I was in control of all of my diplomatic decisions? I don't see why the game needs to tell me that my duke hates someone...
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On February 21 2013 04:46 Erik.TheRed wrote:
Quick question-- what exactly is the point of my main character's "opinion" number on other characters? I thought I was in control of all of my diplomatic decisions? I don't see why the game needs to tell me that my duke hates someone...
I don't think it does anything, it is probably just there because the game determines an opinion of every character for every other character.
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On February 21 2013 04:46 Erik.TheRed wrote:
Quick question-- what exactly is the point of my main character's "opinion" number on other characters? I thought I was in control of all of my diplomatic decisions? I don't see why the game needs to tell me that my duke hates someone...
It is important for "Fall in Love" ambition. Both characters have to have an opinion over 85. Other than that it's generally useless, but can be fun to look at who your character supposedly likes or dislikes.
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On February 21 2013 06:57 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2013 04:46 Erik.TheRed wrote:
Quick question-- what exactly is the point of my main character's "opinion" number on other characters? I thought I was in control of all of my diplomatic decisions? I don't see why the game needs to tell me that my duke hates someone... I don't think it does anything, it is probably just there because the game determines an opinion of every character for every other character.
I think your opinion of someone effects what plots you can start against them. That's the only thing I can think of.
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It's main function is for the AI if, for example, you decide to start playing as someone else in a saved game. A lot of AI decisions are based on the character's opinion on others.
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Yes, you can only start certain plots (e.g. to revoke a title) only when your opinion of the target is low enough (negative afair).
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On February 21 2013 11:08 Ljas wrote:
It's main function is for the AI if, for example, you decide to start playing as someone else in a saved game. A lot of AI decisions are based on the character's opinion on others.
One thing I happened to find as my first game (Norway) was that Genoa was feeding me the odd 200-coin bung now and again, which certainly helped me keep the mercenaries from turning. I only discovered later that it's that doges in merchant republics (you might need the Republic DLC pack for this, idk) bribe your ingame opinion of them up so that they get cheaper trade posts in your land.I thought it was slightly 'gamey' to give gifts to someone else's courtier immediately before asking them to join an assassination plot, but when it's the AI doing much the same thing, and treating MY opinion as just a malleable statistic, I feel better about it.
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On February 22 2013 00:07 Aim Here wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2013 11:08 Ljas wrote:
It's main function is for the AI if, for example, you decide to start playing as someone else in a saved game. A lot of AI decisions are based on the character's opinion on others. One thing I happened to find as my first game (Norway) was that Genoa was feeding me the odd 200-coin bung now and again, which certainly helped me keep the mercenaries from turning. I only discovered later that it's that doges in merchant republics (you might need the Republic DLC pack for this, idk) bribe your ingame opinion of them up so that they get cheaper trade posts in your land.I thought it was slightly 'gamey' to give gifts to someone else's courtier immediately before asking them to join an assassination plot, but when it's the AI doing much the same thing, and treating MY opinion as just a malleable statistic, I feel better about it.
You don't need the DLC, the Doge of Venice bribed me too, and i don't own that DLC.
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Starting over for the third time now.
Originally I wanted to start in the County of Ormond, Ireland. But then saw that there was some shady looking norwegian in control of that. So I picked Thomond instead since I'm the Duke of Munster that way anyway.
Obviously I had no fucking clue what I was doing, so I got screwed over by my vasall who wanted independence like 3 weeks into the game, took me 20 years or so to take that one simple guy actually down. The whole game was an utter mess, especially when my character died and the son inherited it and nobody liked him everything went to shit.
So I started over, I had a basic understanding of how the whole claim and create duchy business worked. I took the guy in Ormond out pretty fast, got Desmond to complete Munster and started forging claims on Connacht. It felt good.
Then my piece of shit son plotted to kill me, I imprisoned him and then lateron banished him, thinking that it would make the succession invalid (how foolish of me). So that douche was chilling out in some other County basically waiting for me to die. Couldn't let that happen. Meanwhile I was vigorously making babies, 8 daughters before I finally got another son, two at once actually. Tried to assassinate my heir, only had a 15% chance of success and would've cost me pretty much all of my gold. So I chose to invade the county he was sitting in and simply imprison him again. Had to take down 2 or 3 Counties for that.
By that point all of my vasalls hated me and I had the title "the cruel". Imprisoning everyone who pissed me off seemed like a good choice at first.
The my dude died. Didn't get to execute my Heir before, so he became Duke of Munster and Connacht (while in prison) and my 10years old twins got some Counties because of the succession laws.
So, basically, everything went to shit. Game is hard.
Time for another try I guess.
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On February 26 2013 16:30 FliedLice wrote:
Starting over for the third time now.
Originally I wanted to start in the County of Ormond, Ireland. But then saw that there was some shady looking norwegian in control of that. So I picked Thomond instead since I'm the Duke of Munster that way anyway.
Obviously I had no fucking clue what I was doing, so I got screwed over by my vasall who wanted independence like 3 weeks into the game, took me 20 years or so to take that one simple guy actually down. The whole game was an utter mess, especially when my character died and the son inherited it and nobody liked him everything went to shit.
So I started over, I had a basic understanding of how the whole claim and create duchy business worked. I took the guy in Ormond out pretty fast, got Desmond to complete Munster and started forging claims on Connacht. It felt good.
Then my piece of shit son plotted to kill me, I imprisoned him and then lateron banished him, thinking that it would make the succession invalid (how foolish of me). So that douche was chilling out in some other County basically waiting for me to die. Couldn't let that happen. Meanwhile I was vigorously making babies, 8 daughters before I finally got another son, two at once actually. Tried to assassinate my heir, only had a 15% chance of success and would've cost me pretty much all of my gold. So I chose to invade the county he was sitting in and simply imprison him again. Had to take down 2 or 3 Counties for that.
By that point all of my vasalls hated me and I had the title "the cruel". Imprisoning everyone who pissed me off seemed like a good choice at first.
The my dude died. Didn't get to execute my Heir before, so he became Duke of Munster and Connacht (while in prison) and my 10years old twins got some Counties because of the succession laws.
So, basically, everything went to shit. Game is hard.
Time for another try I guess.
In my first game, i married my daughter to the king of france as scotland, because i wanted an ally against England. 10 years later the new King of France decided that instead of being an ally of the King of Scotland, he'd rather be King of Scotland himself, since his wife had a claim on my throne. So i had about 30000 Frenchmen invading me and demanding ALL MY TITLES when i had a total army of about 3000 men. Then he called in the Holy Roman Emperor as an ally into that war. I ragequit at that point. Fuck the french. Don't ever get involved with them. And especially NEVER trust them. Bastards.
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I wish I wasn't such a save scummer, those failure newbie games sound so much more interesting than mine.
At first I actually succeeded at invading England as Harald Hardråde, just by the luck of the normans and the saxons wiping each other's armies out, but not knowing the mechanics, I accepted a surrender while many saxon nobles still ruled much of the land.
Long story short, the upcoming 20 years were a long string of saxon rebellions with lots of frustrated reloads, and since I also failed at proper title re-distribution, I ended up with lots of norwegian mega-dukes (they just kept marrying each other and uniting their duchies) and even more civil wars and reloads.
This combined with my summer-time crappy laptop led to my first 50 years of my first game taking up like 50 years of gametime. Playing it to the end year 1459 took me like 120 hours, and that was my one first game!
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