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Gourmand
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada101 Posts
February 07 2012 21:58 GMT
#61
It's for safety reason

In order to increase safety, for 2012 the FIA has decided to lower the height of the car's front section, primarily to lessen the chance of one's car's nose intruding into the cockpit of another in the event of a side-on collision.


And the reason why every but McLaren went for the ugly nose is probably because you only need to change the front part and not the whole cockpit too. Making the change cheaper. It also allow more air under to nose to go in the sidepod or something like that.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/16864721 as good info and the video work for me from Canada, so it probably work for everyone
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
February 08 2012 01:39 GMT
#62
Raikonnen fastest in testing. Sure it doesn't mean much but it made my day seeing Kimi's name in my BBC Sport RSS feed. It's been way too long.
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ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
February 08 2012 08:04 GMT
#63
On February 08 2012 06:58 Gourmand wrote:
It's for safety reason

Show nested quote +
In order to increase safety, for 2012 the FIA has decided to lower the height of the car's front section, primarily to lessen the chance of one's car's nose intruding into the cockpit of another in the event of a side-on collision.


And the reason why every but McLaren went for the ugly nose is probably because you only need to change the front part and not the whole cockpit too. Making the change cheaper. It also allow more air under to nose to go in the sidepod or something like that.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/16864721 as good info and the video work for me from Canada, so it probably work for everyone


Actually, everybody went for the ugly nose because they follow the Red Bull style of thinking, high nose gives more air under the car, to the sidepods and the diffuser. F1 cars gets most of their downforce from underneath the car, so more air here is better. Drawbacks are higher CofG and more extreme front suspension arms.

McLaren, on the other hand, follows their own path and the concept they understand, they get a nicer front suspension and a lower CofG. They also have the "snow plough" right under the nose, working as a turning vane, helping airflow to sidepods and underfloor.
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Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
February 08 2012 14:39 GMT
#64
14:35 AUTOSPORT Live 'spy watch' continues... Red Bull has personnel stationed at the final corner to watch... well, everyone.

14:36 Red Bull spies presumably saying "well, that's less stable than ours" as most cars pass.

Hehe. ;_;
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Gourmand
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada101 Posts
February 08 2012 15:11 GMT
#65
I saw on local TV, some guy taking about how McLaren would change the nose before season starts and that they showed this current nose so they don't get copied. At first it made sens to me, but then i realized testing as started and that testing a nose you wont want to use for the real season when there is so few testing would be stupid.

Anyways can't wait to see the first 2-3 races to see how the season will look like. I'm sad that the BBC won't cover all race. Local coverage is crap.
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
February 08 2012 16:05 GMT
#66
[image loading] (Image from Jalopnik)

But very nice explanashun, TKWL, I almost understood it. (The technical stuff, not your phrasing or anything. I'm just not that clever.)
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zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
February 08 2012 16:40 GMT
#67
On February 09 2012 00:11 Gourmand wrote:
I saw on local TV, some guy taking about how McLaren would change the nose before season starts and that they showed this current nose so they don't get copied. At first it made sens to me, but then i realized testing as started and that testing a nose you wont want to use for the real season when there is so few testing would be stupid.


Keep in mind that Mercedes and HRT are currently in Jerez, testing with their 2011 cars, just to get some data about the new 2012 tyres
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Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2009 Posts
February 08 2012 16:41 GMT
#68
On February 09 2012 00:11 Gourmand wrote:
I saw on local TV, some guy taking about how McLaren would change the nose before season starts and that they showed this current nose so they don't get copied. At first it made sens to me, but then i realized testing as started and that testing a nose you wont want to use for the real season when there is so few testing would be stupid.

Anyways can't wait to see the first 2-3 races to see how the season will look like. I'm sad that the BBC won't cover all race. Local coverage is crap.

They are walking their own path, I very much doubt they will change to the step concept. I would guess that while on the other cars the step gave better results in figures on the McLaren it didnt.
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ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
February 08 2012 16:52 GMT
#69
On February 09 2012 00:11 Gourmand wrote:
I saw on local TV, some guy taking about how McLaren would change the nose before season starts and that they showed this current nose so they don't get copied. At first it made sens to me, but then i realized testing as started and that testing a nose you wont want to use for the real season when there is so few testing would be stupid.

Anyways can't wait to see the first 2-3 races to see how the season will look like. I'm sad that the BBC won't cover all race. Local coverage is crap.


He probably meant the front wing. On the McLaren the whole front of the chassis is lower, so in order to change the nose to a lower version they would have to recalibrate their whole car. Imagine the airflow over and under the mclaren right now versus he airflow over and under the Red Bull. The air would flow in a completely different way, so changing the nose would mean going racing with a basicly untested car, with a concept McLaren have never tried.
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skipgamer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia701 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 18:15:26
February 08 2012 18:11 GMT
#70
Cant wait for this season to begin. I really think it's going to be the most interesting in a long time.

I just hope the pundits are right and the removal of the EBD is going to tighten things up performance wise a bit more. The noses makes very little difference really.

Either way, there are at least 2 big contracts that will almost definitely be up at the end of the year, Webber and Massa, so I think drivers all over the field will be trying to prove their worth and have a shot at grabbing one of those seats. So the fighting should be intense from the very first race.

Raikkonen coming back will also certainly add some excitement, then there's the battle of the rookies at torro rosso which should prove infinitely more exciting than Buemi/Alguersuari, Kobayashi will no doubt be looking to continue his strong showing over the last couple years, Hamilton will be looking to reclaim his #1 position within the McLaren team, Williams will be continuing to try to claw their way back into contention and the pay-drivers there (especially Senna) will be looking to prove their worth as skilled drivers, and the Caterham, Marussia, HRT rivalry will no doubt continue to be inspired. There are just so many stories with the drivers (many more than what I've listed) that have developed over the last few years, that really seem to be reaching a potential climax.

I just feel like there's a lot more excitement heading in to this year than last and even the year before. Last year was the year of who was the best with the new tyres when it came to driver performance, and that didn't really make for much hype and excitement.

This year the drivers should be fairly confident in the handling of the tyres, and assuming there is no new #1 technical advancement that blows the rest out of the teams out of the water like the DDD/EBD did, then things should be really really really exciting. Can't wait!

Oh and great job on the OP btw!
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
February 16 2012 05:25 GMT
#71
Excited to see how well Lotus/Force India/Toro Rosso do this season... Lotus looks to be in pretty good form so far, getting the most laps in and the fastest laps in testing (not that it really matters, but still nice to see).

Also, I wish STR would go back to having larger bulls on the sides of the cars ;-;
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zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
February 16 2012 17:13 GMT
#72


Mercedes finally shakes down at Silverstone

Presentation on Tuesday at 7:20 GMT
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zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
February 17 2012 10:19 GMT
#73
@vitalypetrov10
Caterham thank you for all you support !! More than happy
2 minutes ago


Hingham, UK - 17 February 2012
Caterham F1 Team has today announced that Vitaly Petrov has joined the team as race driver, replacing Jarno Trulli with immediate effect.

o_O
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Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
February 17 2012 10:27 GMT
#74
On February 17 2012 02:13 zere wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy4LtpZQZiM


Mercedes finally shakes down at Silverstone

Presentation on Tuesday at 7:20 GMT


I love the sound of F1 cars sans broadcast quality production.
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Gourmand
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada101 Posts
February 17 2012 14:19 GMT
#75

Hingham, UK - 17 February 2012
Caterham F1 Team has today announced that Vitaly Petrov has joined the team as race driver, replacing Jarno Trulli with immediate effect.
o_O


Money, money, money, it sure can get you anything.
Vagabond
Profile Joined April 2011
Scotland149 Posts
February 17 2012 16:55 GMT
#76
The Trulli train has stopped running now , but this was comming for a while specialy last year with the "power steering" issue that happend almost the whole season for him. This is the first time since the 70s that there has been no Italian drivers on the track. The two longest running people on the track now is Micheal and button
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zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
February 20 2012 13:59 GMT
#77


Hyyyyyype!
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Greenpeez
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany21 Posts
February 22 2012 01:24 GMT
#78
for anybody who didnt see yet, new mercedes w03 has been unveiled at barcelona today

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~ava
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada379 Posts
February 22 2012 01:31 GMT
#79
Nicely detailed OP; looking forward to a McLaren victory in 2012
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
February 23 2012 18:17 GMT
#80
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