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baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1108 Posts
November 26 2012 21:36 GMT
#1101
love it
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
November 26 2012 22:07 GMT
#1102
On November 27 2012 03:29 greggy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 02:02 Klive5ive wrote:
On November 27 2012 01:56 greggy wrote:
he is still vastly overrated by people living in 2008

Only 2 year olds know the real story.


Do you really think Hamilton would be able to realistically challenge for the title given a red bull?


rofl, it would be like scumacher circa 00-05 only more dominate, Hamilton has the most raw talent on the grid
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-27 08:47:31
November 27 2012 08:47 GMT
#1103
Oh yeah, how rude of me (us)

A HUGE Thank You, to Mr Zere for this awesome thread this season


Having done a thread for the Football this season, i know it's a big task (and mine isn't half as good!) so again, thank you for all the updates, pictures, reaction and more!

ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
popzags
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland604 Posts
November 27 2012 13:00 GMT
#1104
Uh, oh... at least Vettel had to sweat himself to the very last GP to get the title, just like on his first try.

But to me Alonso accomplished more. He had virtually no support from Massa for the most of the season, got knocked out by Grosjean from perhaps the critical race on Spa, had vastly inferior car on almost all Saturdays and yet he nearly won the title.

Gosh, sometimes I feel that each team should only have one driver, so we could avoid those goddamn team orders and make the rivalry clean and simple. It was sad to watch Webber and Massa, repeatedly sacrificing their good positions by letting their team leaders go as if they were pawns on the chessboard - even though The Pawns had sparks of good form from time to time.
What what the the fuck fuck? That blew my mind so much, I doubled every word in the phrase 'What the fuck' to get: 'What what the the fuck fuck my what the the fuck fucking what did the drop dropship medivac where in the what in the hell?' - Day[9]
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1108 Posts
November 27 2012 13:22 GMT
#1105
On November 27 2012 22:00 popzags wrote:
Uh, oh... at least Vettel had to sweat himself to the very last GP to get the title, just like on his first try.

But to me Alonso accomplished more. He had virtually no support from Massa for the most of the season, got knocked out by Grosjean from perhaps the critical race on Spa, had vastly inferior car on almost all Saturdays and yet he nearly won the title.

Gosh, sometimes I feel that each team should only have one driver, so we could avoid those goddamn team orders and make the rivalry clean and simple. It was sad to watch Webber and Massa, repeatedly sacrificing their good positions by letting their team leaders go as if they were pawns on the chessboard - even though The Pawns had sparks of good form from time to time.


why was it sad to watch Massa, this season has been amazing for him the deeper into the season it got the better he became, next season we might see the return of the Massa of old, the guy who almost won the title in 2008
popzags
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland604 Posts
November 27 2012 15:35 GMT
#1106
On November 27 2012 22:22 baldgye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 22:00 popzags wrote:
Uh, oh... at least Vettel had to sweat himself to the very last GP to get the title, just like on his first try.

But to me Alonso accomplished more. He had virtually no support from Massa for the most of the season, got knocked out by Grosjean from perhaps the critical race on Spa, had vastly inferior car on almost all Saturdays and yet he nearly won the title.

Gosh, sometimes I feel that each team should only have one driver, so we could avoid those goddamn team orders and make the rivalry clean and simple. It was sad to watch Webber and Massa, repeatedly sacrificing their good positions by letting their team leaders go as if they were pawns on the chessboard - even though The Pawns had sparks of good form from time to time.


why was it sad to watch Massa, this season has been amazing for him the deeper into the season it got the better he became, next season we might see the return of the Massa of old, the guy who almost won the title in 2008

Well, he was good at late-year races, no question, but his start of the season was very poor. Well, hopefully he'll recover, some people believe the next season might be his last in Ferrari if he does signifacantly worse that Alonso for second time in a row.
What what the the fuck fuck? That blew my mind so much, I doubled every word in the phrase 'What the fuck' to get: 'What what the the fuck fuck my what the the fuck fucking what did the drop dropship medivac where in the what in the hell?' - Day[9]
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 15:17:43
November 28 2012 15:16 GMT
#1107
Thanks I'll try to have some new ideas for the 2013 thread
Shiro said she was already on the graphics for it, let's see when the first presentations of 2013 cars happen in February

On November 27 2012 22:22 baldgye wrote:
why was it sad to watch Massa, this season has been amazing for him the deeper into the season it got the better he became, next season we might see the return of the Massa of old, the guy who almost won the title in 2008


I think Massa can be a true title contender in 2013.
Even in the early season, when he was lacking, there were rather good things from him that went unnoticed. E.g. in Barcelona, Monte Carlo and Canada he had atrocious results, but if you looked closely, he was really quick. In these races he was the fastest car in the early stages (and in traffic, on the other hand because of poor quali performances), especially in Monaco he pumped in one fastest lap after another. He ended up crashing then, which is another thing a driver has to avoid to be taken as a serious contender.
Then, of course, there were times when his performance was just unbelievably bad, of course, no one can argue against that, as well. Overall his first 3 quarters of the season were really bad, and I don't think most of it was not his fault. The last stages of the season, however, we saw the "old" Massa again. I don't know what happened, wether there was some sort of mental phase, or some confidence-switch he had to turn on, but I'd like to see this exact Massa again in 2013.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 18:24:15
November 28 2012 18:21 GMT
#1108
this quaint english nationalism is so...cute?

hamilton is fast for sure, he is also aggressive and cocky in a way that gets himself in trouble.

mclaren car also has been dominant in stretches.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2014 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 23:27:42
November 28 2012 18:33 GMT
#1109
Great job again this year, look forward to the next one Zere. Seems the teams are already nearly done naming drivers, Bottas confirmed today which is good for Williams. Maldonado will get shown up by him I think.
I think it is cute that people with little to no interest in motorsport show up in forums just to give Hamilton shit. Maybe that is why he is the most marketable driver in F1.

Edit: A video was released on youtube which has been picked up on by Alonso.


The incident happens around 10min+

A BBC article about Ferrari's possible response.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20531638

I will say I saw this before but apparently a steward is waving a green flag (I cant tell) in the marshal post at the pit exit. Flags > Lights in F1 rules btw. I hope, even if he overtook under yellow, the F1 title is not decided by lawyers.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
November 29 2012 10:54 GMT
#1110
That would indeed suck. I didn't see anyone waving a green flag and in my opinion if you do such a mistake you need to be punished. Ofcourse taking away a championship with it... would be drastic. I hope this won't end up in huge drama._.
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shiroiusagi
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
SoCal, USA3955 Posts
November 29 2012 13:45 GMT
#1111
I defiantly hope Vettel won't end up losing his champ over this. Cause I sure think it will drop a big stink bomb of drama.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 29 2012 13:49 GMT
#1112
Sky just said that the FIA are "convinced" he has done nothing wrong. They say "out of shot" in the pit lane there is a steward waving a green flag, and the stewards waving the flags are more accurate then the lights around the side.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Juissi
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland209 Posts
November 29 2012 13:55 GMT
#1113
Can't believe Alonso fucked up 44 points lead in few races, rofl. Vettel so much better and well deserved championship.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
November 29 2012 16:55 GMT
#1114
Kamui Kobayashi has been linked to the second Lotus seat for 2013, and he's managed to raise £800k ($1.25m) since he started.
On the 27th it was £500k, so he's managed another £300k in 2 days or so.
HOLY CHECK!
Perscienter
Profile Joined June 2010
957 Posts
November 29 2012 17:02 GMT
#1115
On November 29 2012 22:49 Pandemona wrote:
Sky just said that the FIA are "convinced" he has done nothing wrong. They say "out of shot" in the pit lane there is a steward waving a green flag, and the stewards waving the flags are more accurate then the lights around the side.

Yes, but why is everything solved by hearsay? Where is the proof? Why does it take so long?

The FIA is so unorganized.
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
November 29 2012 17:14 GMT
#1116
On November 29 2012 22:55 Juissi wrote:
Can't believe Alonso fucked up 44 points lead in few races, rofl. Vettel so much better and well deserved championship.


Alonso was rammed by krash kid Grosjean in Spa, and screwed up for himself in Suzuka.
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ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
November 29 2012 17:15 GMT
#1117
On November 30 2012 01:55 Lonyo wrote:
Kamui Kobayashi has been linked to the second Lotus seat for 2013, and he's managed to raise £800k ($1.25m) since he started.
On the 27th it was £500k, so he's managed another £300k in 2 days or so.


Who's going out? Can't believe they would lose a french driver whom probably comes with some Renault backing, and they have to be stone stupid if they let Kimi go..
ModeratorFather of bunnies
Juissi
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland209 Posts
November 29 2012 17:54 GMT
#1118
On November 30 2012 02:15 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 01:55 Lonyo wrote:
Kamui Kobayashi has been linked to the second Lotus seat for 2013, and he's managed to raise £800k ($1.25m) since he started.
On the 27th it was £500k, so he's managed another £300k in 2 days or so.


Who's going out? Can't believe they would lose a french driver whom probably comes with some Renault backing, and they have to be stone stupid if they let Kimi go..


Kimi has already signed for the next season. Now they need to know what happens with Lotus before they can confirm the second driver. If the ownership changes the new owners might want someone else to the second seat.
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
November 29 2012 18:53 GMT
#1119
First off I want to thank Zere for organizing the thread. Great job. I also want to thank everyone for participating. As a noobish person to F1 motorsports I had a great time chatting with everyone. Some thoughts on the season I have:

1) Congrats to Vettel - He was very strong this year. It really blows my mind that he's a 3 time champ and still only 24-25. Can you imagine how many more strong years he has in him? Could he be the new Schumacher? He's making a strong case for it.

2) Hamilton and McLaren - I'm sad to see him leave, but it is totally understandable. This should have been Hamilton's year. So many poles thrown due to pit errors. Not even counting the bad luck in crashes, there are at least 3-4 races that should have W's for Hamilton if it were not for pit errors. At the tier in F1 racing that McLaren races at today, this simply can not happen.

3) CotA Austin - This track did not disappoint for all the hype it received. I was amazed the whole weekend from practice to qualifying to the actual race itself. The track looks beautiful. The track let's the drivers and pit crews do their jobs. There is a way for any type of driver to win at this course. It seems very balanced to me. The track also looks busy when people race on it, There's no sense of "autopilot" to it. I simply love it. I am so happy it brought back F1 to America. I hope the future NJ track can bring the some of the same stuff CotA brought to us.
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1108 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 18:59:48
November 29 2012 18:58 GMT
#1120
On November 30 2012 02:15 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 01:55 Lonyo wrote:
Kamui Kobayashi has been linked to the second Lotus seat for 2013, and he's managed to raise £800k ($1.25m) since he started.
On the 27th it was £500k, so he's managed another £300k in 2 days or so.


Who's going out? Can't believe they would lose a french driver whom probably comes with some Renault backing, and they have to be stone stupid if they let Kimi go..


I guess the problem with Roman was all the bad press he brought with him that has to hurt the team... It's a shame Kamui is in the position he's in but... he just hasn't bee fast enough...

Like who else thought that Paul would be out-performed by Nico this season? I sure didn't and was almost positive he was gona get Lewis's seat when that was all in the air...

On November 29 2012 22:49 Pandemona wrote:
Sky just said that the FIA are "convinced" he has done nothing wrong. They say "out of shot" in the pit lane there is a steward waving a green flag, and the stewards waving the flags are more accurate then the lights around the side.



Yeah, Kevin @ F1 Fanatic pointed out, rightly that it just seemed like Ferrari marketing trying to spread bad-press about Vettel winning over Alonso and moving the talk away from the fact Ferrari have just been slow...

Was amazing how much press it gained when you think about how nothing an event it was, and how far more questionable things happened though out the season
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