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On December 24 2011 07:23 MonkeyMaan wrote:
My expert record is 77. I have 22966 games play total on expert level. 1183 of those I have won (5%).
I probably win around 20% of my games now, and the losses are mainly due to the "impossible calculation layout" of some minesweeper rounds and also because I usually play other games at the same time (fx in the early game of sc2).
Personally, I don't think anymore when I play minesweeper. I can have a conversation or (almost) watch a stream and still do minesweeper perfectly.
It's fun.. Play it :D
w-t-f. o.0
i applaud your dedication bro. wow.
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I just click the corners first then random ones after that 
Works surprisingly well
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Hey, 17 begginner/500 expert here.
This is crazy, I think everyone knows the coin flip counter to a 50-50 situation hasn't been viable since 5.1.
Also if you meta game is correct, you should never get into a sandwhich situation. The problem is with you macro, not your micro. Clearly the solition here is to use a square build and get your APM up, much more viable than the squiggly line opener.
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If this were a blog it would get an auto 5 stars :D
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On December 24 2011 07:08 sirkyan wrote:@8: The ones you've marked aren't all bombs, or well, mines .
you are wrong, there are mines under those flags
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This is definitely interesting read, hopefully it helps someone.
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sad how coin flippin happen 4 out of every 5 games and it happens more than once each game :-/....
A note when u get urself in coin flipping situation is to solve it right away else you gona waste the next few minutes trying to solve a solution that you have the same percentage in winning and losing.
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Juicebox, your rule 2 doesn't really make sense. Are you saying the red spot should or shouldn't be a mine? It should be a mine, but the way you solved it seems really unintuitive. It is much easier to solve it by looking at either the top two or bottom two on that section of the wall. This point might be invalid if you simply cut off the tiles above the 1 and it isn't the top, though.
Why did you make the 2-3 sandwich rule? You should just call it the 3 wall rule, since its always true if a 3 is on a single wall.
The most important thing to learn is that leaving question marks enabled will only slow you down, and that using both clicks at once on a revealed tile will reveal all other tiles around it except the flagged ones.
On December 24 2011 07:08 sirkyan wrote:@8: The ones you've marked aren't all bombs, or well, mines .
Im under the impression Juicebox cut out some important tiles in these screenshots on accident, Im guessing you looked at the 3 in the bottom corner and thought that all 3 around it should be marked?
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On December 24 2011 08:05 Doppelpanda wrote:Juicebox, your rule 2 doesn't really make sense. Are you saying the red spot should or shouldn't be a mine? It should be a mine, but the way you solved it seems really unintuitive. It is much easier to solve it by looking at either the top two or bottom two on that section of the wall. This point might be invalid if you simply cut off the tiles above the 1 and it isn't the top, though. Why did you make the 2-3 sandwich rule? You should just call it the 3 wall rule, since its always true if a 3 is on a single wall. The most important thing to learn is that leaving question marks enabled will only slow you down, and that using both clicks at once on a revealed tile will reveal all other tiles around it except the flagged ones. Show nested quote +On December 24 2011 07:08 sirkyan wrote:@8: The ones you've marked aren't all bombs, or well, mines . Im under the impression Juicebox cut out some important tiles in these screenshots on accident, Im guessing you looked at the 3 in the bottom corner and thought that all 3 around it should be marked?
Indeed. I didn't think he would cut out the important part of a picture .
Anyway! I didn't say it before, it's a cool guide! Well-written!
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cool post, i just hope to god you didn't work all that out yourself and have picked it up from various internet sources..... i would never have worked out half that stuff on my own lol
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Minesweeper is so awesome. For that reason alone I had to delete it from this computer (work com).
Beg.: 1s
Int: 14s (cheat way, not my fault) actual time I think is 18s
Exp: 86s
Goal is to get the sum under 100s...
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Katowice25012 Posts
This is super badass. I moved it to Sports & Games where it fits better.
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Nice post!
But seriously, don't use the Windows version of Minesweeper, it is absolutely terrible. Get Minesweeper X or Minesweeper Clone instead. And try intermediate sometime, it is my favourite because there isn't as much guessing involved as there is in expert and it allows a great amount of gambling to get a good time.
For those people that really like minesweeper, check out this site: http://www.minesweeper.info/
PS: I quit minesweeper some time ago because my mouse-handling is fucking terrible, now I'm encountering the same problem with Starcraft -.-
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Holy shit, this is nice! I don't think this will improve my times but it will definitely limit the amount of times I have to guess. Thanks!
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On December 24 2011 07:23 MonkeyMaan wrote:
My expert record is 77. I have 22966 games play total on expert level. 1183 of those I have won (5%).
I probably win around 20% of my games now, and the losses are mainly due to the "impossible calculation layout" of some minesweeper rounds and also because I usually play other games at the same time (fx in the early game of sc2).
Personally, I don't think anymore when I play minesweeper. I can have a conversation or (almost) watch a stream and still do minesweeper perfectly.
It's fun.. Play it :D
You play minesweeper and SC2 at the same time? :o
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On December 24 2011 08:38 emythrel wrote:
cool post, i just hope to god you didn't work all that out yourself and have picked it up from various internet sources..... i would never have worked out half that stuff on my own lol
I figured it all out myself lol
I was at school one day and I started playing Minesweeper, and didn't stop...
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haha, now we can all be pros at minesweeper during our leisure time! thanks!
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On December 24 2011 07:19 Altsa wrote:
97% of my games end in the "flip a coin" situation -.-
This...used to love minesweeper as a kid when i had no idea how to play it on expert...but now its easy enough till you get to 'the coin flip' situation in nearly every game.
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I'm at a 22% (now 23%!) win percentage with close to 13k games played. The coin-flip scenarios are mostly annoying, though I've increased my chance of guessing correctly in maybe 5% of them. Such an enjoyable time sink in many ways.
My fastest expert time on Window's version is 84 secs.
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Lalalaland34502 Posts
A while ago I got into playing without flagging and now I become muuuuch slower when I deliberately try to flag some stuff. I mainly sweep while I'm watching a movie without concentrating on it so I screw up a lot. I prefer to do intermediate, non-flagging highscore is around 25 seconds. Never managed to complete an expert before screwing up somewhere though.
edit: I don't think Minesweeper Arbiter keeps track of every single game you play but I'd be surprised if I get a 5% completion rate lol. At some point most people stop caring about getting it right every single time and more about just beating their top scores, even if it involves some guessing. Unfortunately my hand coordination isn't the best either.
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