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TheDraken
Profile Joined July 2011
United States640 Posts
December 23 2011 22:31 GMT
#21
On December 24 2011 07:23 MonkeyMaan wrote:
My expert record is 77. I have 22966 games play total on expert level. 1183 of those I have won (5%).

I probably win around 20% of my games now, and the losses are mainly due to the "impossible calculation layout" of some minesweeper rounds and also because I usually play other games at the same time (fx in the early game of sc2).

Personally, I don't think anymore when I play minesweeper. I can have a conversation or (almost) watch a stream and still do minesweeper perfectly.

It's fun.. Play it :D


w-t-f. o.0

i applaud your dedication bro. wow.
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ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
December 23 2011 22:34 GMT
#22
I just click the corners first then random ones after that

Works surprisingly well
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TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
December 23 2011 22:35 GMT
#23
Hey, 17 begginner/500 expert here.

This is crazy, I think everyone knows the coin flip counter to a 50-50 situation hasn't been viable since 5.1.

Also if you meta game is correct, you should never get into a sandwhich situation. The problem is with you macro, not your micro. Clearly the solition here is to use a square build and get your APM up, much more viable than the squiggly line opener.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Rainofpain
Profile Joined December 2010
United States125 Posts
December 23 2011 22:36 GMT
#24
If this were a blog it would get an auto 5 stars :D
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Samahoj
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden109 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 22:38:10
December 23 2011 22:37 GMT
#25
On December 24 2011 07:08 sirkyan wrote:
@8:

The ones you've marked aren't all bombs, or well, mines .

you are wrong, there are mines under those flags
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Mithix
Profile Joined July 2010
United States28 Posts
December 23 2011 22:38 GMT
#26
This is definitely interesting read, hopefully it helps someone.
Semper Fidelis!
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
December 23 2011 22:43 GMT
#27
sad how coin flippin happen 4 out of every 5 games and it happens more than once each game :-/....

A note when u get urself in coin flipping situation is to solve it right away else you gona waste the next few minutes trying to solve a solution that you have the same percentage in winning and losing.
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Doppelpanda
Profile Joined December 2010
18 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 23:09:58
December 23 2011 23:05 GMT
#28
Juicebox, your rule 2 doesn't really make sense. Are you saying the red spot should or shouldn't be a mine? It should be a mine, but the way you solved it seems really unintuitive. It is much easier to solve it by looking at either the top two or bottom two on that section of the wall. This point might be invalid if you simply cut off the tiles above the 1 and it isn't the top, though.

Why did you make the 2-3 sandwich rule? You should just call it the 3 wall rule, since its always true if a 3 is on a single wall.


The most important thing to learn is that leaving question marks enabled will only slow you down, and that using both clicks at once on a revealed tile will reveal all other tiles around it except the flagged ones.


On December 24 2011 07:08 sirkyan wrote:
@8:

The ones you've marked aren't all bombs, or well, mines .


Im under the impression Juicebox cut out some important tiles in these screenshots on accident, Im guessing you looked at the 3 in the bottom corner and thought that all 3 around it should be marked?
sirkyan
Profile Joined July 2010
211 Posts
December 23 2011 23:31 GMT
#29
On December 24 2011 08:05 Doppelpanda wrote:
Juicebox, your rule 2 doesn't really make sense. Are you saying the red spot should or shouldn't be a mine? It should be a mine, but the way you solved it seems really unintuitive. It is much easier to solve it by looking at either the top two or bottom two on that section of the wall. This point might be invalid if you simply cut off the tiles above the 1 and it isn't the top, though.

Why did you make the 2-3 sandwich rule? You should just call it the 3 wall rule, since its always true if a 3 is on a single wall.


The most important thing to learn is that leaving question marks enabled will only slow you down, and that using both clicks at once on a revealed tile will reveal all other tiles around it except the flagged ones.


Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 07:08 sirkyan wrote:
@8:

The ones you've marked aren't all bombs, or well, mines .


Im under the impression Juicebox cut out some important tiles in these screenshots on accident, Im guessing you looked at the 3 in the bottom corner and thought that all 3 around it should be marked?


Indeed. I didn't think he would cut out the important part of a picture .

Anyway! I didn't say it before, it's a cool guide! Well-written!
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
December 23 2011 23:38 GMT
#30
cool post, i just hope to god you didn't work all that out yourself and have picked it up from various internet sources..... i would never have worked out half that stuff on my own lol
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
Sharkey
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
668 Posts
December 23 2011 23:39 GMT
#31
Minesweeper is so awesome. For that reason alone I had to delete it from this computer (work com).

Beg.: 1s
Int: 14s (cheat way, not my fault) actual time I think is 18s
Exp: 86s

Goal is to get the sum under 100s...
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
December 23 2011 23:41 GMT
#32
This is super badass. I moved it to Sports & Games where it fits better.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
bartus88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands491 Posts
December 23 2011 23:57 GMT
#33
Nice post!

But seriously, don't use the Windows version of Minesweeper, it is absolutely terrible. Get Minesweeper X or Minesweeper Clone instead. And try intermediate sometime, it is my favourite because there isn't as much guessing involved as there is in expert and it allows a great amount of gambling to get a good time.

For those people that really like minesweeper, check out this site: http://www.minesweeper.info/

PS: I quit minesweeper some time ago because my mouse-handling is fucking terrible, now I'm encountering the same problem with Starcraft -.-
Random master race
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
December 24 2011 00:31 GMT
#34
Holy shit, this is nice! I don't think this will improve my times but it will definitely limit the amount of times I have to guess. Thanks!
Enjoy your day.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
December 24 2011 00:43 GMT
#35
On December 24 2011 07:23 MonkeyMaan wrote:
My expert record is 77. I have 22966 games play total on expert level. 1183 of those I have won (5%).

I probably win around 20% of my games now, and the losses are mainly due to the "impossible calculation layout" of some minesweeper rounds and also because I usually play other games at the same time (fx in the early game of sc2).

Personally, I don't think anymore when I play minesweeper. I can have a conversation or (almost) watch a stream and still do minesweeper perfectly.

It's fun.. Play it :D


You play minesweeper and SC2 at the same time? :o
XDJuicebox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States593 Posts
December 24 2011 00:55 GMT
#36
On December 24 2011 08:38 emythrel wrote:
cool post, i just hope to god you didn't work all that out yourself and have picked it up from various internet sources..... i would never have worked out half that stuff on my own lol


I figured it all out myself lol

I was at school one day and I started playing Minesweeper, and didn't stop...
And then you know what happened all of a sudden?
ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
December 24 2011 01:42 GMT
#37
haha, now we can all be pros at minesweeper during our leisure time! thanks!
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Resent
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia938 Posts
December 24 2011 01:52 GMT
#38
On December 24 2011 07:19 Altsa wrote:
97% of my games end in the "flip a coin" situation -.-

This...used to love minesweeper as a kid when i had no idea how to play it on expert...but now its easy enough till you get to 'the coin flip' situation in nearly every game.
Xivsa
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 01:18:50
January 19 2012 21:46 GMT
#39
I'm at a 22% (now 23%!) win percentage with close to 13k games played. The coin-flip scenarios are mostly annoying, though I've increased my chance of guessing correctly in maybe 5% of them. Such an enjoyable time sink in many ways.

My fastest expert time on Window's version is 84 secs.
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. - Bilbo
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 22:17:11
January 19 2012 21:52 GMT
#40
A while ago I got into playing without flagging and now I become muuuuch slower when I deliberately try to flag some stuff. I mainly sweep while I'm watching a movie without concentrating on it so I screw up a lot. I prefer to do intermediate, non-flagging highscore is around 25 seconds. Never managed to complete an expert before screwing up somewhere though.

edit: I don't think Minesweeper Arbiter keeps track of every single game you play but I'd be surprised if I get a 5% completion rate lol. At some point most people stop caring about getting it right every single time and more about just beating their top scores, even if it involves some guessing. Unfortunately my hand coordination isn't the best either.
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