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rave[wcr]
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1166 Posts
January 24 2012 21:11 GMT
#421
im having trouble beating that tutorial that gets you justice. does anyone know how to beat the mission with exia in it? also is there another mission after that one?
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
January 24 2012 21:52 GMT
#422
On January 25 2012 05:39 Kralic wrote:
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On January 25 2012 05:31 Southlight wrote:
Make sure you're hitting the proper RPS target. Also as Paper in general tend not to have overwhelming firepower; your job is to provide cover, hammer rock, and put down supporting fire from good positions. You can custom/OC into attack but you're really never going to see that much damage.


Ahhh wow, thanks I never took into account the rock paper scissors. I shall do better now.


The other thing I'd point out is that paper vs scissors (confirmed by H) is the worst matchup in the game, as scissors has better firepower, better boost, better mobility (can dodge your shots), and is generally designed to kill you. It is, for better or for worse, a team game. C-rank scissors give my AR-rank paper a headache, and it's generally very suit and skill dependent when it comes to dealing with B/A-rank scissors with my AR paper, as many of them just steamroll me lol. If you've been trying to hit scissors you're really going to see little progress
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imPermanenCe
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands595 Posts
January 25 2012 19:54 GMT
#423
On January 25 2012 06:11 rave[wcr] wrote:
im having trouble beating that tutorial that gets you justice. does anyone know how to beat the mission with exia in it? also is there another mission after that one?


Lol, you get justice for that? I thought you made typo and meant impulse (since u get impulse in US version ;p)

Just don't get spotted before u charge in :D
Micro at its best is like an elegant dance between two people trying to achieve a similar end.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
January 25 2012 22:55 GMT
#424
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Huk yea!
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rave[wcr]
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1166 Posts
January 26 2012 19:19 GMT
#425
i still dont get why u guys prefer spending a lot of time leveling an A or B class when u can get a really strong S class and kick ass right away.

also what happens when u get that overcustom EX thing it says? sometimes i see an alert for it in the chat room announcing someone got it. is it really that special?
Resisty
Profile Joined December 2011
United States375 Posts
January 26 2012 19:34 GMT
#426
He's playing on NA so there's no S-class yet ^^

I like B ranks though; they're pretty balanced with a good mix of firepower and some room to make mistakes. I got my Amatsu to OC6 :D though I'm stuck in Expert server where nobody plays =_=

Do you have to buy the cash-item thing for OCEX, or do I just grind like 18k exp?
Humans are greedy, therefore they are human.
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 19:38:47
January 26 2012 19:36 GMT
#427
I <3 my Zaku III for B and I just got the Shining Gundam last night. I tore shit up with it so that is my favourite A class so far! In general though I always love any of the units that came from the U.C. stories.
Brood War forever!
Resisty
Profile Joined December 2011
United States375 Posts
January 26 2012 19:41 GMT
#428
I hate Shining. If it touches me, I'm basically instantly dead. It's melee combo is pretty fast also, so if I use my special, it probably goes off after 4 hits already.
Humans are greedy, therefore they are human.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 19:58:27
January 26 2012 19:51 GMT
#429
Because S-rank = you get specced and die and are worthless.

Edit:
Also there're a lot of A-ranks that are just as strong if not stronger than most S-rank, lol. Duel As <3 so stronk, top-3 sniper even on Korea IIRC.
End Edit.

Yeah I see your Amatsu OC6. So many of them (I have an OC5). I'm tempted to try to grind out a C4 105 Dagger just to fuck with every Amatsu, because it's such a hard counter lol. B-ranks are definitely very strong, most of the super OP suits are B-rank ~_~

OCEX is free, just the massive grind + 5% luck, lol. It just costs the cash item to CHANGE the OCEX, but you don't have to immediately pick the OCEX once you get it (Poiuy's been sitting on blank OCEX for days).

@Kralic
Standard shining's pretty meh, as it suffers from high cost (A) while having low defense. The "Efreet Custom" syndrome, as H puts it. Unless you mean BM. That shit's pretty nasty and has some surprisingly high defense.

C-ranks haven't gotten enough love in Beginner servers I think. There's a whole host of high-OC C-rank assholes in expert room, especially the Zaku II (CU) pure defense.

Edit2:
By the way you shouldn't try to grind OCEX - it's a whole lot of exp for a low chance of success. I'd grind some other suit instead and increase your repertoire, while mixing in some Amatsu games every so often. The gains from OCEX aren't particularly overwhelming anyways, unless you have a long-ranged beam weapon (they have longer ranges than the actual lock/search range, so the search OCEX actually faux "increases" their range, hahah).
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Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
January 26 2012 20:04 GMT
#430
On January 27 2012 04:51 Southlight wrote:


@Kralic
Standard shining's pretty meh, as it suffers from high cost (A) while having low defense. The "Efreet Custom" syndrome, as H puts it. Unless you mean BM. That shit's pretty nasty and has some surprisingly high defense.

C-ranks haven't gotten enough love in Beginner servers I think. There's a whole host of high-OC C-rank assholes in expert room, especially the Zaku II (CU) pure defense.

Edit2:
By the way you shouldn't try to grind OCEX - it's a whole lot of exp for a low chance of success. I'd grind some other suit instead and increase your repertoire, while mixing in some Amatsu games every so often. The gains from OCEX aren't particularly overwhelming anyways, unless you have a long-ranged beam weapon (they have longer ranges than the actual lock/search range, so the search OCEX actually faux "increases" their range, hahah).


I only have Shining and Wing Zero(seems like everyone has it) for my A-ranks. If I could play in C's only games all day I would have a blast, but most rooms are set up for all ranks and it is always A rank which makes it lame, I still use my Zaku III but it gets ripped apart by the Scissor A's non stop, now with my Shining Gundam it is sweet sweet revenge lol.
Brood War forever!
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 20:15:00
January 26 2012 20:11 GMT
#431
lol, expert channel is quite a mix, as you'd expect from OC implementation. Some of the strongest suits are C-rank after all. You don't even need a C game. Zaku II (CU) with mass defense wrecks almost every paper. 105 Dagger wrecks most scissors and paper (hilariously). Ball-K is one of the most broken suits in the game. Stuff like Ground Type GM, Zaku I Commander, Zaku II Magella, Guntank, Bucue CR are all extremely powerful in capable hands, etc.

It really just boils down to player skill :>

FYI W0 is pretty meh as a suit, you don't see it that much in expert. Especially amongst current scissors loadout, Amatsu and FB are far more devastating to a paper player than that big, slow target. Z3's problem is that it's a paper without proper defensive measures, so scissors (which is already the worst matchup in the game) eat them up, especially in non-organized play (ie. not clan). It's still hard for me to swallow but as a paper player you really just have to trust your teammates to pick up charging scissors and give up if they're never picked up. There's just very little you can do about it So if you really like Z3, keep at it. If not, then don't deal with the suffering of playing paper, hahah. FYI Z3 Mouth (which should be released next update) is pretty wicked strong, although it got nerfed because it was TOO strong. That one had a wicked fast W3 firing speed that actually beat every opposing beam shot, so they nerfed that but compensated by giving it a stronger W2, so it has decent DPS for what it is. IIRC it's also a scissors, so you don't have to deal with the terrible pvs matchup.

Edit:
Oh yeah can't forget GP-02 Physalis amongst B scissors ._. fking whore.
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Forte
Profile Joined May 2009
Australia101 Posts
January 27 2012 00:09 GMT
#432
southlight....A ranks are nowhere near as good as you think -__-

duel gundam AS is a really really outdated suit..also people go C agi OC attack on that thing, but there's no S ranks yet on NA so HP/DEF seems pretty good. It is probably top 3 sniper though...but no one uses snipers because although it's cool to show off your skill, most of the time they get dominated.

S ranks really dominate. Sure you get specced and can die. But A ranks have 2 lives too, and the difference between full hp and 3/4 hp or w/e on 2nd life is really not that much when the stats and skills and weapon sets of S ranks are far more ridiculous.

Best A ranks - AR Brave, Gadess? Gadessa? or w/e it is (i cbb looking it up, can't remmeber the name). Non OC rooms Chaos is great. IDK about what's good since the patch, but these are some of the good ones. Then there's all the AGE variations but I think they are only decent and not really good. Also the G gundam series AS ranks are pretty cool too. Also, Magnetic Coating RX-78 Last stand purge mode is sooooooo nice

In 13 point limit, you don't see A ranks because SBBC is so much better. In just pub rooms, majority of players spam S ranks forever.

Bigges problem with W0 is that it's clunky and has bad mobility. GP-02 Physalis stomps on scrubs.. but it gets outclassed these days by most of the suits. Still getting nuked is lame as heck. The papers right now in NA definitely seem to be worse off than the scissors, but on KR/TW there are some good papers out there that can deal with scissors.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
January 27 2012 00:29 GMT
#433
I'm mostly speaking A with NA server, lol.
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Forte
Profile Joined May 2009
Australia101 Posts
January 27 2012 01:03 GMT
#434
ah k makes sense

if going by the release order (freedom, justice etc) then it will be awhile before the OP S ranks come out, lol
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rave[wcr]
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1166 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 12:35:38
January 27 2012 12:34 GMT
#435
what.. so S class units get extra damage from specials or something?

what about gouf's then? which one of those are the strongest? if im gonna level a B rank id rather level a gouf
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
January 27 2012 15:09 GMT
#436
Nah they just don't have significantly stronger HP per unit, while costing more (and having less overall HP in DM), so they're particularly prone to specs... unless you have H level spec-dodging skillage. I'd imagine in an S-room you can spam S-rank (cuz everyone's S-rank) but in clan match with team point limit they just replace A-ranks. Obviously depends on how 'competitive' you are, though.
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rave[wcr]
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1166 Posts
January 27 2012 16:02 GMT
#437
oh so the team points make the A more cost efficient xD. well im not planning to be competitive in any video game. i already burned 8 yrs of my life in wc3 xD. im just gonna fuk around with my deathscythe hell ew then. soon as i get one T_T is it really 36000 for just the blueprints? thats a little insane
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
January 27 2012 16:14 GMT
#438
13 points for team, as Forte said you usually see SBBC.
A gets passed over because S is simply more efficient, but you generally just see an uber broken S-rank and a number of broken B/C ranks, generally from events or mission drops (Katoki Wing, Rau Dinn, etc. etc.)
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rave[wcr]
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1166 Posts
January 27 2012 21:12 GMT
#439
noooooooooooooo still no DH hell. it gave me a duel assault shroud instead T_T i hate this game sometiems.
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
January 28 2012 03:58 GMT
#440
Yay built my Cgue Deep Arms, now to grind the levels on it tonight.
Brood War forever!
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