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Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1692 Posts
December 05 2011 00:59 GMT
#161
Warriors vs Clippers added yo
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13430 Posts
December 05 2011 01:01 GMT
#162
I think if the Wolves amnesty Darko, then the difference between his Wolves contract and the new one he signs is what counts to the cap.

So Darko's due 5 mill this season. If the Wolves amnesty him and say Miami pick him up at 2 mill a season. Then I think the difference (3 mill) is what counts against the cap.

There's a good chance I'm wrong, but I think I read that somewhere. I think that's how it works in relation to the cap. Not sure if it's the same for the salary floor though.

"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
December 05 2011 03:08 GMT
#163
I'm a little skeptical how they can reduce contracts by over 10%, yet more teams have to pay money.

Unless the league makes much more income, even teams that have to spend more should get a refund due to the escrow. So even if they sign more contracts to make the minimum payroll, each contract should be reduced in face value.

And they raised the league minimum to appease the rich owners who didn't want to see the Donald Stirlings siphon off their revenue sharing while being cheap.
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
December 05 2011 03:24 GMT
#164
On December 05 2011 09:55 slyboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 01:30 KOFgokuon wrote:
On December 03 2011 07:19 slyboogie wrote:
They can't amnesty him because they need to spend at least 85% of the cap and they're only at 48 million at the moment. I think the salary floor is 51 or 52 million? Darko's at 5 million? So I guess they could amnesty him and try to sign a star? They'd have $9 if they amnesty Darko and they'd save 15 million over 3 years.


a lot of teams are going to have to spend a LOT of money to reach that 85% of the cap figure. A lot more shitty contracts are on the way, stay tuned!


Actually, I was wrong. I think an amnestied player still counts towards the floor but not the cap. I don't remember I heard this but I think that that's right. So the Wolves can go ahead an amnesty Darko.


Yes that sounds like what I read as well. In any case hopefully some exciting stuff this week ^^
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
December 05 2011 11:22 GMT
#165
On December 05 2011 12:24 MassHysteria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 09:55 slyboogie wrote:
On December 05 2011 01:30 KOFgokuon wrote:
On December 03 2011 07:19 slyboogie wrote:
They can't amnesty him because they need to spend at least 85% of the cap and they're only at 48 million at the moment. I think the salary floor is 51 or 52 million? Darko's at 5 million? So I guess they could amnesty him and try to sign a star? They'd have $9 if they amnesty Darko and they'd save 15 million over 3 years.


a lot of teams are going to have to spend a LOT of money to reach that 85% of the cap figure. A lot more shitty contracts are on the way, stay tuned!


Actually, I was wrong. I think an amnestied player still counts towards the floor but not the cap. I don't remember I heard this but I think that that's right. So the Wolves can go ahead an amnesty Darko.


Yes that sounds like what I read as well. In any case hopefully some exciting stuff this week ^^


If you check out NBA.com's preview of Portland Blazers they talk about the amnesty clause and how it affects Brandon Roy, and they said something along the line of they'd pay the player, but it doesn't go towards the cap!
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
Keyboard Warrior
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1178 Posts
December 05 2011 11:47 GMT
#166
Heats win! Or Mavs repeat!
Not your regular Keyboard Warrior ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
December 05 2011 13:44 GMT
#167
More trade-talk; Oden to Miami? If he can stay healthy for a season, my god the Heat will be so fucking good it's not even funny.

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2011/12/04/a-fresh-start-for-oden-in-miami/#?ls=iref:nbahpt1
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
Thebbeuttiffulland
Profile Joined October 2011
Brazil288 Posts
December 05 2011 13:54 GMT
#168
is brian scalabrine still playing? my favorite player
truth is out there
htn2481
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Vietnam117 Posts
December 05 2011 14:16 GMT
#169
On December 05 2011 22:54 Thebbeuttiffulland wrote:
is brian scalabrine still playing? my favorite player


He's signed with Italian team Benetton Treviso in Sept. Still playing but not in the NBA
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
December 05 2011 14:20 GMT
#170
On December 05 2011 22:44 VENDIZ wrote:
More trade-talk; Oden to Miami? If he can stay healthy for a season, my god the Heat will be so fucking good it's not even funny.

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2011/12/04/a-fresh-start-for-oden-in-miami/#?ls=iref:nbahpt1


That's a big if. If I were Oden I'd be trying to get as much money as I could before my 50-year old knees gave out.
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
December 05 2011 21:41 GMT
#171
On December 05 2011 20:22 VENDIZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 12:24 MassHysteria wrote:
On December 05 2011 09:55 slyboogie wrote:
On December 05 2011 01:30 KOFgokuon wrote:
On December 03 2011 07:19 slyboogie wrote:
They can't amnesty him because they need to spend at least 85% of the cap and they're only at 48 million at the moment. I think the salary floor is 51 or 52 million? Darko's at 5 million? So I guess they could amnesty him and try to sign a star? They'd have $9 if they amnesty Darko and they'd save 15 million over 3 years.


a lot of teams are going to have to spend a LOT of money to reach that 85% of the cap figure. A lot more shitty contracts are on the way, stay tuned!


Actually, I was wrong. I think an amnestied player still counts towards the floor but not the cap. I don't remember I heard this but I think that that's right. So the Wolves can go ahead an amnesty Darko.


Yes that sounds like what I read as well. In any case hopefully some exciting stuff this week ^^


If you check out NBA.com's preview of Portland Blazers they talk about the amnesty clause and how it affects Brandon Roy, and they said something along the line of they'd pay the player, but it doesn't go towards the cap!


Yes thats what I meant, and actually where I remember reading it

On December 05 2011 23:16 htn2481 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 22:54 Thebbeuttiffulland wrote:
is brian scalabrine still playing? my favorite player


He's signed with Italian team Benetton Treviso in Sept. Still playing but not in the NBA


He's supposedly doing good overthere...Celtics pondering if they want to bring him back..
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13430 Posts
December 05 2011 23:41 GMT
#172
You'd have to be stupid to sign Oden. Nice guy and all and I wish him the best, but he's going to be one of those guys who will never be fit.

Everyone always says "If healthy, blah, blah, blah"--it isn't going to happen. Miami's better off taking a chance on someone like Brendan Haywood (if they can get a decent price) than signing Oden.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 23:47:04
December 05 2011 23:45 GMT
#173
On December 06 2011 08:41 RowdierBob wrote:
You'd have to be stupid to sign Oden. Nice guy and all and I wish him the best, but he's going to be one of those guys who will never be fit.

Everyone always says "If healthy, blah, blah, blah"--it isn't going to happen. Miami's better off taking a chance on someone like Brendan Haywood (if they can get a decent price) than signing Oden.


He'd be way cheaper than Haywood. Haywood will probably get 8-12 million a year over 4 years. Oden is getting his qualifying offer from the Blazers but that's the equivalent of a 1 year deal at 9 million dollars. The most he'd get from the Heat is the mid-level for about 3 years which is about 15-18 million over 3 years. I'm not saying he's worth the risk, I think he's done as a basketball player, but he is still relatively cheap, considering the price of NBA talent.

EDIT: Oops, Haywood is only at 7.5 million. So Oden wouldn't be way cheaper, sorry. But he'd still be cheaper. But yeah, this makes Bob more right than me =P
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
December 05 2011 23:53 GMT
#174
The Heat don't need to take risks to win titles. They'd be risking losing titles if they took Oden.

Teams that face long odds at winning should be taking high risk/high reward strategies.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
December 06 2011 00:05 GMT
#175
Mami can't afford Oden so it doesn't matter anyway. Portland will easily match the 8.8 million offer. Miami doesn't NEED Oden either. They made it to the chip in a close series with only one player playing well.

In other news:

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Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13430 Posts
December 06 2011 01:10 GMT
#176
If I was a fan of the team that eventually signs Oden, I'd be pretty downbeat about it. There's no denying the guy has talent, potential, etc, but he's got bung knees. He's always going to have major leg problems with one longer than the other. He can have all the talent in the world, but he can't keep up physically to make it in the NBA.

I hope I'm proven wrong and he stays healthy, but unless I'm getting a really good deal, guys like Oden just aren't worth it.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13430 Posts
December 06 2011 01:14 GMT
#177
And wtf happened to Mike Bibby? He used to be one of my fave players at Sacramento and these days he looks more of a liability out on the court.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 01:44:23
December 06 2011 01:44 GMT
#178
On December 06 2011 10:14 RowdierBob wrote:
And wtf happened to Mike Bibby? He used to be one of my fave players at Sacramento and these days he looks more of a liability out on the court.


Other than getting long in the tooth, nothing happened to him, he's a 6'0 player over 30. Small PG's wear down around this age with a couple exceptions (Nash, Stockton)
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13430 Posts
December 06 2011 13:11 GMT
#179
If the Lakers gouge both Paul and Howard in Pau trade 2.0 then I f&%king give up on the NBA.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
December 06 2011 13:53 GMT
#180
the lakers can go fuck themselves.

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