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VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 08:41:00
January 13 2012 08:39 GMT
#1581
Rumor has it that Rasheed Wallace will make a comeback, and it's said that the Bulls will sign him! Even with his career low in Boston he avg'ed more than both Noah & Asik, could be a nice signing if he's in shape! :D

On January 13 2012 15:33 Jibba wrote:
Screw his sprouting offensive game. DHoward would be way more dangerous if he could become an 80% FT shooter.

I know he hired a coach for it, I can't believe it took so long though.



Well that's a fairly obvious statement ;p Just think of what numbers Shaq would've posted if he hadn't been a career 50% FT shooter :D
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
January 13 2012 09:02 GMT
#1582
On January 13 2012 14:46 VENDIZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 11:51 nemY wrote:
As a Dubs fan I never thought these words would come out of my mouth, but man... it sucks that Kwame Brown is injured for the rest of the year



..what? Wouldn't that just force David Lee to play more?? The way he's playing these days that can't be a bad thing..


David Lee is not two things:

1.) A True Center
2.) A mediocre defender... he's garbage on D (unless he's guarding KLove)

So yeah it is sort of a bad thing going forward with Biedrins/Lee/Udoh (gulp) as the Dubs "Big Men" so to speak.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 13 2012 09:03 GMT
#1583
On January 13 2012 17:39 VENDIZ wrote:
Rumor has it that Rasheed Wallace will make a comeback, and it's said that the Bulls will sign him! Even with his career low in Boston he avg'ed more than both Noah & Asik, could be a nice signing if he's in shape! :D

Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 15:33 Jibba wrote:
Screw his sprouting offensive game. DHoward would be way more dangerous if he could become an 80% FT shooter.

I know he hired a coach for it, I can't believe it took so long though.



Well that's a fairly obvious statement ;p Just think of what numbers Shaq would've posted if he hadn't been a career 50% FT shooter :D


#1 Sheed is a menace

#2. Shaq would be the GOAT if he was 70%+ on FT% (probably 6+ titles: 99, 2000-2004, 2005-2006)

#3. Dwight is trying really hard. He has imprved a lot in the NBA, and FTs are his only true weakness now (not that it is excusable).
Freeeeeeedom
VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 09:58:41
January 13 2012 09:41 GMT
#1584
On January 13 2012 18:02 nemY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 14:46 VENDIZ wrote:
On January 13 2012 11:51 nemY wrote:
As a Dubs fan I never thought these words would come out of my mouth, but man... it sucks that Kwame Brown is injured for the rest of the year



..what? Wouldn't that just force David Lee to play more?? The way he's playing these days that can't be a bad thing..


David Lee is not two things:

1.) A True Center
2.) A mediocre defender... he's garbage on D (unless he's guarding KLove)

So yeah it is sort of a bad thing going forward with Biedrins/Lee/Udoh (gulp) as the Dubs "Big Men" so to speak.


Yeah, he's not a true center, but he's not Kwame Brown, so that alone should make up for a lot ;p Also, GSW hasn't been anything else than a mediocre team in terms of defense either, and with so few good centers in the league, I'd think that was the least worrying part :o

On January 13 2012 18:03 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 17:39 VENDIZ wrote:
Rumor has it that Rasheed Wallace will make a comeback, and it's said that the Bulls will sign him! Even with his career low in Boston he avg'ed more than both Noah & Asik, could be a nice signing if he's in shape! :D

On January 13 2012 15:33 Jibba wrote:
Screw his sprouting offensive game. DHoward would be way more dangerous if he could become an 80% FT shooter.

I know he hired a coach for it, I can't believe it took so long though.



Well that's a fairly obvious statement ;p Just think of what numbers Shaq would've posted if he hadn't been a career 50% FT shooter :D


#1 Sheed is a menace

#2. Shaq would be the GOAT if he was 70%+ on FT% (probably 6+ titles: 99, 2000-2004, 2005-2006)

#3. Dwight is trying really hard. He has imprved a lot in the NBA, and FTs are his only true weakness now (not that it is excusable).


Menace due to his tendency to get T's? Or something else? He's a good defender and puts up decent numbers (quite good compared to the Bulls other bigs), so if one could make him shut up (easier said than done, I know), it wouldn't be a big loss in trying him out?
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13430 Posts
January 13 2012 12:43 GMT
#1585
So I turned on to the last 5 mins of the Orlando GSW game to see Dwight shooting his 36th FT.

Holy shit.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
January 13 2012 13:29 GMT
#1586
On January 13 2012 15:33 Jibba wrote:
Screw his sprouting offensive game. DHoward would be way more dangerous if he could become an 80% FT shooter.

I know he hired a coach for it, I can't believe it took so long though.


http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2010-11-18/sports/os-bianchi-dwight-howard-rick-barry-20101118_1_dwight-howard-underhanded-style-shaq


Rick Barry says he could help Dwight Howard make 80 percent of his free throws
But Magic big man would have to shoot underhanded

Shaq was once quoted by Sports Illustrated as saying he would "shoot a negative percentage before I shot like that [underhanded]." Wilt Chamberlain, another iconic big man, shot underhanded free throws for a while but stopped because, as he once wrote, "I felt like a sissy."


Dwight Howard's well adulated mother should make him shoot underhand. There would be so many mixed feelings from both Howard and his opponents if it worked.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
January 13 2012 16:29 GMT
#1587
On January 13 2012 18:41 VENDIZ wrote:
Menace due to his tendency to get T's? Or something else? He's a good defender and puts up decent numbers (quite good compared to the Bulls other bigs), so if one could make him shut up (easier said than done, I know), it wouldn't be a big loss in trying him out?

If he just picked up T's, Sheed would be fine. He's a menace because he's lazy and sloppy, and he ends up distracting the team. He can be a good defender (if he's actually kept himself in shape, which is not a given) but it's entirely dependent on his state of mind and how concentrated he's feeling. And despite all his gifts in the post, he'd rather just shoot 3s most of the time, which can either bury opposing teams or disrupt the offense and let them back into the game.

If I were the Bulls though, I'd probably take a chance on him. It's a strong enough core and they're not exactly young and impressionable anymore, plus I'm sure he'd like to abuse the Heat's big men.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
January 13 2012 18:27 GMT
#1588
On January 14 2012 01:29 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 18:41 VENDIZ wrote:
Menace due to his tendency to get T's? Or something else? He's a good defender and puts up decent numbers (quite good compared to the Bulls other bigs), so if one could make him shut up (easier said than done, I know), it wouldn't be a big loss in trying him out?

If he just picked up T's, Sheed would be fine. He's a menace because he's lazy and sloppy, and he ends up distracting the team. He can be a good defender (if he's actually kept himself in shape, which is not a given) but it's entirely dependent on his state of mind and how concentrated he's feeling. And despite all his gifts in the post, he'd rather just shoot 3s most of the time, which can either bury opposing teams or disrupt the offense and let them back into the game.

If I were the Bulls though, I'd probably take a chance on him. It's a strong enough core and they're not exactly young and impressionable anymore, plus I'm sure he'd like to abuse the Heat's big men.


Ok, thanks for the update, didn't know too much about him bar winning the championship with Detroit and the belt-thingy he did. Anyway; if it's his work ethic and whatnot that've been the biggest problem earlier, I'm hoping he's coming back due to being motivated and has a fire to play again - not because of money! :D
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 13 2012 19:16 GMT
#1589
On January 14 2012 03:27 VENDIZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 01:29 Jibba wrote:
On January 13 2012 18:41 VENDIZ wrote:
Menace due to his tendency to get T's? Or something else? He's a good defender and puts up decent numbers (quite good compared to the Bulls other bigs), so if one could make him shut up (easier said than done, I know), it wouldn't be a big loss in trying him out?

If he just picked up T's, Sheed would be fine. He's a menace because he's lazy and sloppy, and he ends up distracting the team. He can be a good defender (if he's actually kept himself in shape, which is not a given) but it's entirely dependent on his state of mind and how concentrated he's feeling. And despite all his gifts in the post, he'd rather just shoot 3s most of the time, which can either bury opposing teams or disrupt the offense and let them back into the game.

If I were the Bulls though, I'd probably take a chance on him. It's a strong enough core and they're not exactly young and impressionable anymore, plus I'm sure he'd like to abuse the Heat's big men.


Ok, thanks for the update, didn't know too much about him bar winning the championship with Detroit and the belt-thingy he did. Anyway; if it's his work ethic and whatnot that've been the biggest problem earlier, I'm hoping he's coming back due to being motivated and has a fire to play again - not because of money! :D



Well, one factor that is against the Sheed comeback for the bulls is that they have a sick frontcourt rotation right now. If he could play the 2 then we might have something.
Freeeeeeedom
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
January 13 2012 21:11 GMT
#1590
On January 13 2012 18:41 VENDIZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 18:02 nemY wrote:
On January 13 2012 14:46 VENDIZ wrote:
On January 13 2012 11:51 nemY wrote:
As a Dubs fan I never thought these words would come out of my mouth, but man... it sucks that Kwame Brown is injured for the rest of the year



..what? Wouldn't that just force David Lee to play more?? The way he's playing these days that can't be a bad thing..


David Lee is not two things:

1.) A True Center
2.) A mediocre defender... he's garbage on D (unless he's guarding KLove)

So yeah it is sort of a bad thing going forward with Biedrins/Lee/Udoh (gulp) as the Dubs "Big Men" so to speak.


Yeah, he's not a true center, but he's not Kwame Brown, so that alone should make up for a lot ;p Also, GSW hasn't been anything else than a mediocre team in terms of defense either, and with so few good centers in the league, I'd think that was the least worrying part :o

Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 18:03 cLutZ wrote:
On January 13 2012 17:39 VENDIZ wrote:
Rumor has it that Rasheed Wallace will make a comeback, and it's said that the Bulls will sign him! Even with his career low in Boston he avg'ed more than both Noah & Asik, could be a nice signing if he's in shape! :D

On January 13 2012 15:33 Jibba wrote:
Screw his sprouting offensive game. DHoward would be way more dangerous if he could become an 80% FT shooter.

I know he hired a coach for it, I can't believe it took so long though.



Well that's a fairly obvious statement ;p Just think of what numbers Shaq would've posted if he hadn't been a career 50% FT shooter :D


#1 Sheed is a menace

#2. Shaq would be the GOAT if he was 70%+ on FT% (probably 6+ titles: 99, 2000-2004, 2005-2006)

#3. Dwight is trying really hard. He has imprved a lot in the NBA, and FTs are his only true weakness now (not that it is excusable).


Menace due to his tendency to get T's? Or something else? He's a good defender and puts up decent numbers (quite good compared to the Bulls other bigs), so if one could make him shut up (easier said than done, I know), it wouldn't be a big loss in trying him out?


Kwame Brown at least has the size to markup on a Dwight Howard. Lee does not. I'm not saying Kwame Brown can shut down Howard, but David Lee has no chance ever vs a guy like Dwight Howard (or any other true big man in the game right now).
VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
January 14 2012 01:34 GMT
#1591
Meh, what Rondo did at the end of the 1st quarter is so horrible >_< The worst part is that what the commentator said (that Rondo has developed into a good flopper) is true for most good players.. they -develop- into good floppers, blergh :<
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
January 14 2012 01:44 GMT
#1592
nice to see the bulls with a good start for once.
Woo Jung Ho
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
January 14 2012 01:47 GMT
#1593
On January 14 2012 04:16 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 03:27 VENDIZ wrote:
On January 14 2012 01:29 Jibba wrote:
On January 13 2012 18:41 VENDIZ wrote:
Menace due to his tendency to get T's? Or something else? He's a good defender and puts up decent numbers (quite good compared to the Bulls other bigs), so if one could make him shut up (easier said than done, I know), it wouldn't be a big loss in trying him out?

If he just picked up T's, Sheed would be fine. He's a menace because he's lazy and sloppy, and he ends up distracting the team. He can be a good defender (if he's actually kept himself in shape, which is not a given) but it's entirely dependent on his state of mind and how concentrated he's feeling. And despite all his gifts in the post, he'd rather just shoot 3s most of the time, which can either bury opposing teams or disrupt the offense and let them back into the game.

If I were the Bulls though, I'd probably take a chance on him. It's a strong enough core and they're not exactly young and impressionable anymore, plus I'm sure he'd like to abuse the Heat's big men.


Ok, thanks for the update, didn't know too much about him bar winning the championship with Detroit and the belt-thingy he did. Anyway; if it's his work ethic and whatnot that've been the biggest problem earlier, I'm hoping he's coming back due to being motivated and has a fire to play again - not because of money! :D



Well, one factor that is against the Sheed comeback for the bulls is that they have a sick frontcourt rotation right now. If he could play the 2 then we might have something.

Doesn't matter. Promise him the time if he earns it. Just make sure that if he does have something left to contribute, he's not doing it for Miami.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 14 2012 02:08 GMT
#1594
On January 14 2012 10:34 VENDIZ wrote:
Meh, what Rondo did at the end of the 1st quarter is so horrible >_< The worst part is that what the commentator said (that Rondo has developed into a good flopper) is true for most good players.. they -develop- into good floppers, blergh :<


Its the league's fault. When they notice something like that it is too late for the refs to do something about it. They should have a replay official, and if he discovers it call a technical during the next break in play.
Freeeeeeedom
VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
January 14 2012 02:12 GMT
#1595
On January 14 2012 11:08 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 10:34 VENDIZ wrote:
Meh, what Rondo did at the end of the 1st quarter is so horrible >_< The worst part is that what the commentator said (that Rondo has developed into a good flopper) is true for most good players.. they -develop- into good floppers, blergh :<


Its the league's fault. When they notice something like that it is too late for the refs to do something about it. They should have a replay official, and if he discovers it call a technical during the next break in play.


Yeah, I saw a clip of Open Court, the "chatting show" with Reggie Miller, C-Webb, Shaq, Sir Charles & Kenny Smith.. they had a "If I were Commish for a day" segment where Miller touched on that point exactly

.. it's probably better than Shaq's proposal on adding a penalty box where players had to fight eachother at the end of games :D
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
scaban84
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1080 Posts
January 14 2012 02:40 GMT
#1596
Luol Deng is eating Pierce alive!
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design." — Friedrich von Hayek
VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 02:55:22
January 14 2012 02:55 GMT
#1597
Wow, the rhythm in Bulls vs. Celtics is messed up, the refs are giving out really weird calls all over the place (i.e. Rondo's trip call)
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
Vinski
Profile Joined November 2010
505 Posts
January 14 2012 02:58 GMT
#1598
Okay I'm really get sick and tired of the bulls struggling in the 3rd.
"Sound is in a bad marriage, instead of divorcing her and keeping half your shit, he just committed suicide"
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 14 2012 04:50 GMT
#1599
Wow, Lebron's 3's taken is way down this year.
Freeeeeeedom
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
January 14 2012 05:18 GMT
#1600
Pretty sure that was a conscious decision. Probably a good one too. But his free throws seem really bad this year.
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