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On March 13 2012 14:33 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 14:28 MassHysteria wrote:
for that we must go back to why a single player is more important/influential in basketball/NBA than in other sports...it's somewhere back there in this thread I think. Why is it that all these "savvy" teams become unsavvy all the time?
If you are referring to streaky, then ya basketball is a game of streaks(cliche I know). As a player during the game you will be hot, as well as at different points during the seasons. Same thing goes for a team throughout the season or game. I guess what you hope "savvy veterans" bring you is consistency, which hopefully help you reduce those bad streaks.
And is Brian Scalabrine really providing that much "savvy" to the Bulls? How much more savvy did the Heat need last year to win (hint the answer is they needed a center that didn't suck regardless of his age)?
If you mean that they needed one more player, then it kind of gets back to that same thing on how one player has much more of an impact in basketball than in other sports. Gonna try to find it ^-^
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I thought Joel Anthony did fine in the 2011 finals.
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Fuck yeah, Memphis in the top 4! Nice to see that one of my predictions would turn right this year!
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On March 13 2012 14:26 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 14:16 Holcan wrote:
no chauncey hurt the clippers so bad...no coaching, only one savvy vet, hard to defend well and pull out solid wins.
talk about a jinx....I love you ray ray.
phew. I don't buy the "savvy vet" hypothesis. Why would it be true in basketball but not in football/other major sports?
It's from the players admission that we know how helpful Chauncey Billups is just from his experience. We do not know the details but on every team he's been on since his championship in Detroit his teammates have praised him for how great of a leader he is.
There's similar praise to be had all over the league with other veterans.
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Why is no one interested in the trade deadline? T_T
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On March 13 2012 14:07 slyboogie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 14:05 cLutZ wrote:On March 13 2012 14:03 slyboogie wrote:On March 13 2012 13:58 cLutZ wrote:On March 13 2012 13:55 slyboogie wrote:On March 13 2012 13:53 ecstatica wrote:
Whoever is not watching Celtics vs Clippers tonight should feel real sorry. Insane game It's that good? I'm watching The Bachelor finale instead. =/ WTF? Really? Its not a great game, but THE BACHELOR? First of all, Happy Birthday! Secondly, I had previous commitments to watch. But The Bachelor is awesome. EDIT: On March 13 2012 14:02 rabidch wrote:On March 13 2012 13:57 buickskylark wrote:
don't be fooled. it's actually awful. slow, ugly and boring. well i cant actually imagine it to be better than the finale of the bachelor  Hear, Hear! Haha, thanks. But really? I thought Bill Simmons and his weird friends were the only people who still watched that show? Not to get too off topic, in case Jibba is creeping...but I don't watch it ironically. I actually like the show. Speaking of bad reality shows, Kris Humphries is pretty underrated.
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On March 13 2012 20:47 RowdierBob wrote:
Why is no one interested in the trade deadline? T_T
nothing is going to happen, is why
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On March 13 2012 20:47 RowdierBob wrote:
Why is no one interested in the trade deadline? T_T
.. I think one can only take so-much of Gasol & Howard trade rumors!
A trade that I think might happen (which is.. sort of big) is Chris Kaman to the Hawks, even though it might be short-term it'll be good for Atlanta, and the Hornets just want to get rid of him
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On March 13 2012 17:28 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 14:26 cLutZ wrote:On March 13 2012 14:16 Holcan wrote:
no chauncey hurt the clippers so bad...no coaching, only one savvy vet, hard to defend well and pull out solid wins.
talk about a jinx....I love you ray ray.
phew. I don't buy the "savvy vet" hypothesis. Why would it be true in basketball but not in football/other major sports? It's from the players admission that we know how helpful Chauncey Billups is just from his experience. We do not know the details but on every team he's been on since his championship in Detroit his teammates have praised him for how great of a leader he is. There's similar praise to be had all over the league with other veterans.
Couldn't it just be that Billups is simply better than his replacements?
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On March 13 2012 13:49 cLutZ wrote:
Parker with 31 tonight. Some other PGs may have higher PPG averages, but none can score 30 points in a game as effortlessly as Parker can make it look. Rose and Westbrook are capable of scoring 30, but they put in so much effort. Parker just glides to those high scoring nights sometimes. I don't know if its just him, the Spurs, or what, but it is amazing.
He's always been ridiculously underrated, but I got used to it. People just don't watch the Spurs a lot I guess, or got so used to see him scoring at will that they don't even notice him anymore. They'd rather watch Westbrook barely get away with a charge and a tough shot than to see the Spurs methodically eliminate the defense for a layup or an open 3. When the playoffs come though, we'll see who is the more efficient player...
In other news TJ Ford just announed his retirement, so no PG backup at all for SA... putting even more pressure on Tony. It's really not Neal's position, and I'd rather see Manu at SG so it's definitely bad news for the Spurs... Quite sad for Ford too. I remember how important he was in Toronto, and even though I always thought he was overrated and Calderon was much better he was a solid player who deserved to have a much better career.
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On March 13 2012 06:05 Ace wrote:
Based on Point Differential, Offensive + Defensive Rankings and their circumstances - both teams like last year have played with key members being hurt while still posting up insane winning numbers. Doesn't really matter that they play in the East - when you're record, ratings and PDs are all that high chances are you really are THAT good. If you put the Lakers in the East and they had to play the top 5 defensive teams 12 times minimum a year what do you think happens to their record over the past 4 years? We can always play the "if they were in another conference" game but at the end of the day it doesn't really mean much when looking at PD.
I don't disagree that they're good, the best even, my whole point is that the numbers you're using are inflated (and you implied the opposite). It's easier to have a good point differential and defensive rating when you're playing New Jersey all the time :p I don't understand why you think conference doesn't matter for PD...
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On March 14 2012 01:19 MilesTeg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 13:49 cLutZ wrote:
Parker with 31 tonight. Some other PGs may have higher PPG averages, but none can score 30 points in a game as effortlessly as Parker can make it look. Rose and Westbrook are capable of scoring 30, but they put in so much effort. Parker just glides to those high scoring nights sometimes. I don't know if its just him, the Spurs, or what, but it is amazing. He's always been ridiculously underrated, but I got used to it. People just don't watch the Spurs a lot I guess, or got so used to see him scoring at will that they don't even notice him anymore. They'd rather watch Westbrook barely get away with a charge and a tough shot than to see the Spurs methodically eliminate the defense for a layup or an open 3. When the playoffs come though, we'll see who is the more efficient player... In other news TJ Ford just announed his retirement, so no PG backup at all for SA... putting even more pressure on Tony. It's really not Neal's position, and I'd rather see Manu at SG so it's definitely bad news for the Spurs... Quite sad for Ford too. I remember how important he was in Toronto, and even though I always thought he was overrated and Calderon was much better he was a solid player who deserved to have a much better career.
Parker is probably the most efficient PG among the top five PGs, the reason why people tend to watch Westbrook (and this is just my theory) is because he's more explosive and flashy.. Parker is incredible all-around, but he doesn't dunk & shout and go crazy every time he does something good. Overall OKC is probably a more exciting team due to their one-two punch in KD & Westbrook, whilst an aging Duncan & Parker is probably who the fundemental fans prefer. Personally I don't find Spurs basketball to be that exciting to watch, with no good reason as to why (I'm not mesmerized by OKC either) :\
And yeah, the news of Ford stepping back is a shame for SA, Gary Neal could do 'OK' for a while, but we might see the Spurs trying to get a decent backup PG on Thursday
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Maybe even more surprising than Lin slipping through the cracks is Novak slipping past the Spurs. He's like an exact for them and the Spurs are great at acquisition, unlike the Warriors.
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On March 14 2012 02:37 Jibba wrote:
Maybe even more surprising than Lin slipping through the cracks is Novak slipping past the Spurs. He's like an exact for them and the Spurs are great at acquisition, unlike the Warriors.
Matt Bonner does a lot of the same things though, doesn't he? Both are 3PT specialists
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It's probably more between him and Danny Green for playing time.
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One source close to the situation told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher that the Magic have promised Howard that they will add a quality player before Thursday's deadline and that Howard can decide the fate of both GM Otis Smith and coach Stan Van Gundy at the end of the season if he signs an extension. Bucks swingman Stephen Jackson, frustrated in Milwaukee, is available and sources say he and Howard have talked about playing together. ESPN.com
LOL
but really.
Magic officials released a statement from Chief Executive Officer Alex Martins that read: "The only person(s) who have the final say on coaches and management is the Orlando Magic ownership." Orlando Sentinel
magic ownership is a joke
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On March 14 2012 02:41 VENDIZ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 02:37 Jibba wrote:
Maybe even more surprising than Lin slipping through the cracks is Novak slipping past the Spurs. He's like an exact for them and the Spurs are great at acquisition, unlike the Warriors. Matt Bonner does a lot of the same things though, doesn't he? Both are 3PT specialists
And drafted Leonard, who plays the same position and seems to be a better all-around player than Novak.
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The Bulls continue to impress despite injuries. That's how deep this team is. I predict a straight sweep of the playoffs/finals.
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On March 14 2012 06:19 Zim23 wrote:
The Bulls continue to impress despite injuries. That's how deep this team is. I predict a straight sweep of the playoffs/finals.
I'd put money against that in a heartbeat. Their offense is FAR too reliant on Derrick Rose. Good perimiter defense teams like San Antonio and Miami would put a vice grip on their offense making them rely on their defense to win games. Yea good luck out defending Miami.
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On March 14 2012 06:19 Zim23 wrote:
The Bulls continue to impress despite injuries. That's how deep this team is. I predict a straight sweep of the playoffs/finals.
Ugh, even as a whole-hearted Bulls fan I can't get myself to say that.. Blind fans are the worst >_<
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