EPT[wow] Mists of pandaria - Page 25
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Leth0
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On July 26 2012 16:20 Tachion wrote: Just throwing in my 2 cents. exclusivity is what made the content so desirable. Less than 1% has beaten this boss, fucking awesome let's go do it! 50% of the server has beaten this boss, oh well...who gives a shit? If everyone got a gold and diamond necklace would it still feel special to have? Blizzard tried to address what they saw as a problem and destroyed what made their game feel so special to play. Looking at the growth, the player base was quite happy with that 1%. Don't fix what isn't broken. But not really. In D3, Beating Inferno Diablo is pretty exclusive still, but I have no desire to do it. | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
On July 27 2012 09:20 cLutZ wrote: But not really. In D3, Beating Inferno Diablo is pretty exclusive still, but I have no desire to do it. Raiding sunwell wasn't desirable to everyone either, but obtaining something rare is still better than something common. | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On July 27 2012 09:27 Tachion wrote: Raiding sunwell wasn't desirable to everyone either, but obtaining something rare is still better than something common. Raiding heroic DS wasn't desirable to everyone either, but obtaining something rare is still better than something common. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On July 27 2012 09:27 Tachion wrote: Raiding sunwell wasn't desirable to everyone either, but obtaining something rare is still better than something common. I always enjyed sunwell, except Muru when the DPS weren't DPSing hard enough resulting in wipes... | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
On July 27 2012 09:30 paralleluniverse wrote: Raiding heroic DS wasn't desirable to everyone either, but obtaining something rare is still better than something common. In the most general sense that's a true comparison  But back then you got armor that very few people had. Heroic DS armor shares the same model with so many other lesser ilevel gear from easier raids. You got to see content that very few other people got to see outside of a clip on youtube. Anyone can join a random group and see the fall of Deathwing. Add in watered down content that anyone can beat and the differences become vividly clear. It's no where close to the same it used to be. | ||
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EMIYA
United States433 Posts
Fast forward to now and it's me and two other friends in the vent channel. Every expansion more people were pushed away, and i hated how they always shifted to automated game mechanics such as the group finders, which in turn have ultimately destroyed server and community identity in general. All i know is something went wrong as the game grew older, and I jumped ship with many others before cata. Such a damn shame too. | ||
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Clemz
United States70 Posts
On July 27 2012 10:48 EMIYA wrote: Every expansion more people were pushed away, and i hated how they always shifted to automated game mechanics such as the group finders, which in turn have ultimately destroyed server and community identity in general. All i know is something went wrong as the game grew older, and I jumped ship with many others before cata. Such a damn shame too. The dungeon finder didn't ruin the community. The community ruined the community. The option has always been there to use trade chat and do dungeons the original way, that never changed. People chose to use the feature because it was convenient and it made the game better to play in short stretches of time. As the playerbase, and MMOs in general, have matured(at least in terms of life obligations, not necessarily mentality) these things have vastly improved gameplay for millions of people. If you no longer enjoy the game, that's a completely valid viewpoint to have. But to paint the picture as if the game has some how deteriorated is completely wrong. | ||
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Pibacc
Canada545 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16121 Posts
On July 27 2012 06:56 Mohdoo wrote: I'm really excited for this. So much so that I have resubscribed to get myself geared enough to blow through the first areas and whatnot. Couple questions though. Besides dungeon and raid finder, how else can I occupy my time? Obviously lots of people spend a bunch of time on WoW, so I am curious what else I should be up to besides raid and dungeon finder. How do I effectively improve my jewelcrafting? I am having difficulty finding new recipes... At least initially you should be spending a lot of time doing dailies for Reputation, as well as leveling professions both primary and secondary. Outside of the valor point heroic gear grind and raids there's challenge modes for transmoggable gear armor. And coming also with Mists will be the new pet battling system, while perhaps not enjoyable to everyone it is definitely a great way to waste time. There's a ton of hours of gameplay available here, collecting and training the perfect team for battle. . | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On July 27 2012 10:54 Pibacc wrote: It's kind of astounding how many people claim WoW is super easy and only for casuals despite themselves never completing a full tier on Heroic. If you didn't clear everything in a timely manner you have zero right to complain it's too easy. Which Heroic? Certainly Uld with Firefighter and Yogg was still hard, heroic Arena place was not (decent servers had heroic PUGs that finished it). WoW was always about more than just the raids. Certainly many of the raids got stale, but other stuff affected it. I think the 10/25 man option on all raids was an issue (Kara as a 10-man only was super fun, and it fostered 10 man guilds that merged into 25 man guilds). I forgot how awesome ZA was until I wrote this post (never did get my mount!). IDK, maybe its just US, but WOW feels differnt. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On July 27 2012 10:54 Pibacc wrote: It's kind of astounding how many people claim WoW is super easy and only for casuals despite themselves never completing a full tier on Heroic. If you didn't clear everything in a timely manner you have zero right to complain it's too easy. You can do almost all the heroics if you have a non retarded raid group(as in people arent full blown stand in everything idiots) went through and did a bunch of bwd without knowing any of the fights by applying the, dont stand in shit principal | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On July 27 2012 11:10 arb wrote: You can do almost all the heroics if you have a non retarded raid group(as in people arent full blown stand in everything idiots) went through and did a bunch of bwd without knowing any of the fights by applying the, dont stand in shit principal This is hopeless. People just keep repeating the same lines which I've thoroughly debunked in the last several pages. Nefarion took over a month to clear before it was beaten on heroic, and it was cheesed with 11 druids. But awesome work beating content that is 2 tiers old by outgearing the mind control DPS mechanic and the electrocute mechanic. | ||
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dabosaur
Sweden95 Posts
After that they releases a expansion with Pandas and everything seems to be at peace, the only boss you got left feels like Kil'jaeden. It feels like they got no long term plan any longer like before. | ||
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DLJ
Germany44 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22158 Posts
On July 27 2012 19:50 dabosaur wrote: It looks ok I guess. The thing that bothers me is the Cataclysm expansion. They released a expansion with a huge boss that looked really op and he changed the world. It was not much talk about him before that and then he dies in one expansion. After that they releases a expansion with Pandas and everything seems to be at peace, the only boss you got left feels like Kil'jaeden. It feels like they got no long term plan any longer like before. How does Deathwing not have lore... The guy gos back all the way to WC2. and features in a ton of lore. No he wasnt in WoW but warcraft if a lot bigger then WoW | ||
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Pibacc
Canada545 Posts
On July 27 2012 22:31 DLJ wrote: Blizzard is milking the cashcow as long as there are retard-kids, so stupid to still pay for gametime. That's like calling someone retarded for paying for a chocolate bar you happen to dislike. Don't be so judgmental. | ||
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Tyree
1508 Posts
On July 27 2012 10:48 EMIYA wrote: Every expansion more people were pushed away, and i hated how they always shifted to automated game mechanics such as the group finders, which in turn have ultimately destroyed server and community identity in general. Sales and sub numbers say you are absolutely wrong. More people were "allowed" to play WoW with various expansions and ways to enter the end game On what planet, and with what logic do you have to use to be able to look at Classic and say "yeah man, back then every type of player had a reason to play long term and log on" compared to today when multiple playstyles are supported, hardcore, casuals, pvpers, semi hardcore and semi casuals. The only thing group finders and LFR destroyed are self pompous guild leaders and officers of the biggest guilds who no longer had as much power. Its why so many guilds are struggling to today because players dont have to put up with abuse and absolute shit from ego maniacal douchebags who are in no position to hold power over 39 other people. The community was also shit back then, you were forced to be nice to some people if you ever wanted to join a guild. If your server was small you litterally had at best a choice of 1-3 guilds. Nothing was more amazing than seeing good people finally break shackles of their old guilds in Cata and make their own 10 man guilds with the people they actually enjoyed talking with and playing, no longer forced to group up with nameless dipshits who spout lame memes from yesteryear and their half assed Chuck Norris jokes. Power hungry GMs and officers who abused the loot system on a nightly basis Yea im mad bro, but in all honesty you can criticize WoW today for alot of things but it is far better game for more people than classic ever was. Classic was better only if you were absolute hardcore, otherwise it was pointless. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
The guild was raiding for 22 hours a week when I started. It was down to around 9 hours a week when we finally called it quits. People have just had enough of the game and didn't have the drive to play it as long as we had. We first cut our hours significantly during the middle of the Ulduar tier, which what many hardcore players consider the best tier. 8 years is a very long time to play the same game. There are plenty of other things to do in life. We lost quite a lot of people throughout the years to marriage and kids, including almost half our officers. Some had to take care of ailing parents as they aged. College students graduated and got jobs. People with jobs got promotions to managerial level and had more responsibilities. Some went to graduate school while continuing to work. Some bought their own house. I read that long thread in the EU forums and it was just pathetic. The arguments were just too... unemployed, for lack of a better word. I think those types of attitudes are not good for the games industry. I'm a child of the 80s/90s and most of the people I grew up with have become very casual gamers. Games just can't cater to the epeen waving high school and college students who have way too much time on their hands and think that exam week will be the busiest time of their lives. There was a time I thought games were the immediate future, too. I see most of my cousins and friends in their mid 20s to late 30s going back to television and movies instead of games. These were mostly hardcore gamers in their youth. | ||
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klaxen
United States361 Posts
I've been playing since release, still love the game. Hit gladiator twice. Raided heroic content a bunch. Got my rogue's legendaries this expac. Mists looks like a lot of fun, and is based on my beta play so far. I've taken many months off over the years but each expansion is like wow classic all over again for me in terms of enjoyment, with far less bugs and crashes and a lot more refinement. I haven't even played a druid, paladin, or shaman at max level either yet so there's always more I can do if I get tired of my current classes. My only regret is boneitis. | ||
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