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kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
August 02 2012 11:38 GMT
#521
How are the hardware-requirements going to be affected?

My computer played classic just fine but with any Addon, performance went down to the point I can barely play Cataclysm.
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Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
August 02 2012 12:00 GMT
#522
you still have the same PC after 7 years? thats not blizzards fault
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
August 02 2012 13:09 GMT
#523
I'm not blaming 'zzard. Just wondering if the requirements skyrocket any further, planning on picking up a new PC anyways.

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Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
August 02 2012 21:08 GMT
#524
Aaaaaaaaaaand the subscribers went down another 1.1M.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2872-WoW-Loses-1-1-Million-Subscibers-Down-to-9-1-Million

Fanboys = (ウ╹◡╹)ウ /// I like smiley faces
RolleMcKnolle
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany1054 Posts
August 02 2012 21:15 GMT
#525
On August 03 2012 06:08 Broodwurst wrote:
Aaaaaaaaaaand the subscribers went down another 1.1M.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2872-WoW-Loses-1-1-Million-Subscibers-Down-to-9-1-Million


well that was to be expected to be honest. DS sucked balls, and there has been no new content for 8 months now. Add to that the lack of server community and no attunements it had to go down...
But I'm pretty sure it will raise pretty harsh with mop again. That shit looks promising. You have everything. 3 nice raids, pokemon and farmville. So what else would one need?
To be serious the raids really look promising.
DongLongJohnson
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 21:24:13
August 02 2012 21:19 GMT
#526
And the 9.1m is the PR-Number! I can't believe there are still 9m people so stupid to play this boring casualshit. I don't believe there are more than 3m accounts that pay 15$/month to blizzard.
The Pokemon&Panda Expansion will be the final blow and hopefully the death of WoW.

User was banned for this post.
Joefish
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany314 Posts
August 02 2012 21:52 GMT
#527
I played classic and BC and stopped after years when most of my friends quitted due to rl obligations or just lost interest in the game. When Cataclysm came out, I thought about joining the community again but leveling all my characters again didn't sound very appealing to me. Besides, I tested it at a friends house and wasn't that excited about it so that I would invest much time into it again.
Now, Mists of Pandaria hasn't changed my decision in the slightest. I think I just lost the connection to WoW when my friends left and the community itself grew more and more unfriendly. At least that's how I experienced it.
Moreover, cuddly pandas and cartoonish look definitely won't let me feel the urge spending +8h on. Fortunately, I should add
Minecraft
Profile Joined January 2011
25 Posts
August 02 2012 22:47 GMT
#528
On August 03 2012 06:08 Broodwurst wrote:
Aaaaaaaaaaand the subscribers went down another 1.1M.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2872-WoW-Loses-1-1-Million-Subscibers-Down-to-9-1-Million



It should be a major wakeup call to a company when you lose about 25% of your entire customerbase in a single year. Combine this with the fact that Starcraft II seems to have lost even more players in the last year (used to be 1m+ players online everytime I played, now it's always under 500k) and that Diablo III is more than likely headed down the same road (if it hasn't already)...

Would prompt any sane company to get their act together but I have a feeling Blizzard is just going to milk their franchises into the ground and start fresh with Titan or something. They just aren't even trying these days.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
August 02 2012 23:23 GMT
#529
On August 03 2012 07:47 Minecraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 06:08 Broodwurst wrote:
Aaaaaaaaaaand the subscribers went down another 1.1M.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2872-WoW-Loses-1-1-Million-Subscibers-Down-to-9-1-Million



It should be a major wakeup call to a company when you lose about 25% of your entire customerbase in a single year. Combine this with the fact that Starcraft II seems to have lost even more players in the last year (used to be 1m+ players online everytime I played, now it's always under 500k) and that Diablo III is more than likely headed down the same road (if it hasn't already)...

Would prompt any sane company to get their act together but I have a feeling Blizzard is just going to milk their franchises into the ground and start fresh with Titan or something. They just aren't even trying these days.


Nothing to be expected when they have people doing the same content for 1 year+ like Dragon Soul, etc. With MoP, the numbers will rise as always. The number will rise for SC2 when HOTS comes out. Its just a neverending cycle, really.
darksub
Profile Joined July 2010
Argentina302 Posts
August 02 2012 23:35 GMT
#530
they always go down before expansions....
divide et vinces
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
August 02 2012 23:58 GMT
#531
On August 03 2012 08:35 darksub wrote:
they always go down before expansions....

this + "10 million D3 copies sold, with 1.2 million of those from the Annual Pass." 10 million is sick.. so much more money than 1 million subs which even may come back with MoP
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
Soan
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
New Zealand194 Posts
August 03 2012 00:31 GMT
#532
On August 03 2012 06:52 Joefish wrote: I think I just lost the connection to WoW when my friends left


I think this is the biggest reason why people miss vanilla/tbc days. Not because of the state the game was in content/talent trees/etc wise, but because of the times they had with friends who are no longer playing.

Every time I read new blue posts on mmo, the more and more I fully agree with blizzards decisions, and the more and more I believe that the majority of any game community should be ignored when it comes to making design decisions. Sure there'll be some good feedback and ideas for blizzard to take in, but most of it is drivel.
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
August 03 2012 01:59 GMT
#533
On August 03 2012 06:08 Broodwurst wrote:
Aaaaaaaaaaand the subscribers went down another 1.1M.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2872-WoW-Loses-1-1-Million-Subscibers-Down-to-9-1-Million


Subscription numbers always drop near the end of an expansion as people run out of things to do.

But it seems the drop is a lot larger than most people expected.
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
August 03 2012 02:41 GMT
#534
WoW has not had a content patch for what, 9 months? Not really surprising at all that they dropped subs.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
August 03 2012 02:53 GMT
#535
MoP, the xpac that everyone went "WTF is this?" when it was announced looks really promising in beta now.. Its art,pet battle,raid mechanic,faction system are awesome and there are more. It's quite unexpected.
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
August 03 2012 03:02 GMT
#536
On August 03 2012 11:53 Wildmoon wrote:
MoP, the xpac that everyone went "WTF is this?" when it was announced looks really promising in beta now.. Its art,pet battle,raid mechanic,faction system are awesome and there are more. It's quite unexpected.


I was thinking the exact same thing when i saw it. Im a long time WoW player (haven't really played during cata though) but was looking for a new MMO to peak my interest. Pretty sure im going to be back to WoW come MOP.
Teence
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada157 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 06:18:29
August 03 2012 06:17 GMT
#537
On August 03 2012 10:59 paralleluniverse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 06:08 Broodwurst wrote:
Aaaaaaaaaaand the subscribers went down another 1.1M.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2872-WoW-Loses-1-1-Million-Subscibers-Down-to-9-1-Million


Subscription numbers always drop near the end of an expansion as people run out of things to do.

But it seems the drop is a lot larger than most people expected.


This isn't exactly true. Subscriptions continued to rise at the end of TBC and remained constant in both Q3 and Q4 of 2010 at the end of the Wrath cycle. Of course, the cataclysmic (:D) losses accumulated since Q1 2011 can be attributed to a plethora of reasons, but the "end of expansion" argument just doesn't match the facts.

Source: http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/Subs-1.png

I'm not one to jump on the doomsaying bandwagon, so I will spare you that. I just hope that any inferences made by the devs to account for the loss of ~3 million subscribers over the course of an expansion are no longer completely related to excessive difficulty.
Mysticus
Profile Joined April 2011
298 Posts
August 03 2012 06:22 GMT
#538
On August 02 2012 12:48 Mysticus wrote:
Would anyone be able to send me a scroll? PM me and I'll get you details. Not sure if I want to resub, want to see if the urge is still there


Still looking
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
August 03 2012 08:33 GMT
#539
On August 03 2012 15:22 Mysticus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 12:48 Mysticus wrote:
Would anyone be able to send me a scroll? PM me and I'll get you details. Not sure if I want to resub, want to see if the urge is still there


Still looking

you shoud say if EU or US
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 03 2012 09:09 GMT
#540
Going down from 12million peak in October '11 to 9.1million (pre expansion) August '12 is not a major problem imo. The new expansion will see a minimun of 1million players back, the summer months of WoW are known for the most of the player base (uni students/college students/school kids) take time off the game to go enjoy the summer and then get back into WoW when the school term/semesters start up again.

And anyway even if WoW doesn't get much past 9.1 million subscribers ever again, thats still £80,600,000(@£8.99 a month) $136,409,000 (@$14.99 a month) Euro118,209,000 (@12.99Euro a month)

So im sure if you cant make a profit from that much a month you have a buisness problem >.<
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