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Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-20 18:50:43
December 20 2019 18:50 GMT
#31501
I'm still confused about when you slot in a watchstone the maps in the area changes. Does that mean I won't be able to get certain map drops?

Also, the stones I get seem to "belong" to a certain section as I hover it over the atlas, that only tells me where I got it from but it doesn't matter which area I put it in right?
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-20 20:53:11
December 20 2019 20:44 GMT
#31502
In general yeah, you only get map drops for maps that are visible on the atlas currently. Thats why its important to socket watchstones correctly so that you can target farm maps and progress quicker. Not sure what happens when there are no low levle maps at all and one is supposed to drop though.
Yea doesnt matter which stones you put in.

https://i.imgur.com/FsQs1V9.jpg
Dropped out of bounds cant pick it up
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-21 05:56:12
December 21 2019 05:53 GMT
#31503
The best way to understand how Watchstones work is to think about them like applying a temporary Shaper's Orb to the entire region on the Atlas. When you Shaped a map on the old Atlas, you could no longer get the lower-tier version of the map, but the higher-tier version became part of the drop pool for maps of the new tier.

Basically all the core logic for how map drops works stayed the same.

On December 21 2019 05:44 Warri wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/FsQs1V9.jpg
Dropped out of bounds cant pick it up

Did you try Leap Slam? Leap Slam seems to clip through some objects, which can result in you getting temporarily stuck, but also seems to be able to let you sometimes get out-of-bounds items.
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-21 06:04:17
December 21 2019 06:04 GMT
#31504
On December 21 2019 14:53 TheYango wrote:
The best way to understand how Watchstones work is to think about them like applying a temporary Shaper's Orb to the entire region on the Atlas. When you Shaped a map on the old Atlas, you could no longer get the lower-tier version of the map, but the higher-tier version became part of the drop pool for maps of the new tier.

Basically all the core logic for how map drops works stayed the same.

This is the definitely best way of thinking about it imo. Helps me.
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-21 17:14:34
December 21 2019 13:08 GMT
#31505
Still on a 4link. Should've probably waited for another 20 fusing to benchcraft the 5-link but yeah...
e: frustrated by connection issues I started a new char and finally got a tabula from the 3rd metamorph (thx autopickup, would've ignored otherwise probably)
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-21 18:34:19
December 21 2019 18:33 GMT
#31506
This league so far has a big wake-up call for many people. You actually now need to do decent boss damage to progress, or if you're on a speed clearing or map farming build, you better have the BiS gear for your build if you wanna boss anything remotely difficult.

I am not sure how I feel about it...
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13931 Posts
December 21 2019 19:05 GMT
#31507
On December 22 2019 03:33 Latham wrote:
This league so far has a big wake-up call for many people. You actually now need to do decent boss damage to progress, or if you're on a speed clearing or map farming build, you better have the BiS gear for your build if you wanna boss anything remotely difficult.

I am not sure how I feel about it...

Its great for the future of the league. Build evolution had been gettting faster and faster to the point of flicker builds being normie viable. I'm sure the build theory will adapt in the next league in time for the expansion.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28090 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-22 08:13:42
December 22 2019 08:13 GMT
#31508
I'm just being a meta bitch this league and running necro skeles/cyclone. Bossing has never been easier, even with no gear. Unfortunately I died at 85 due to some dumb bullshit, but I'm gonna run it again because it's actually kind of fun
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 22 2019 10:02 GMT
#31509
On December 22 2019 17:13 TheEmulator wrote:
I'm just being a meta bitch this league and running necro skeles/cyclone. Bossing has never been easier, even with no gear. Unfortunately I died at 85 due to some dumb bullshit, but I'm gonna run it again because it's actually kind of fun

Playing strong builds is pretty recommended this league, I'm running a Ball Lightning Saboteur with 90% of the tree copied from AhhCrying's Arc / Icicle Miner. Up until red maps metamorphs died almost immediately, which was pretty nice. Now in red maps with tough mods I actually struggle a bit against some of them, however I can upgrade my gear quite a bit since I'm still mostly self found in a trade league (I like playing SSF :D) and am using Tabula Rasa etc...
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
December 22 2019 17:44 GMT
#31510
I'm still in the hybrid phase of ED Trickster but Ziz uploaded a nice detailed video on switching to CI and gear stuff, small things that go a long way for feeling tankier, etc. Looking forward to it. Not sure where more damage comes from other than amazing wand with chaos dot and/or +chaos gem levels, maybe Empower4... Plenty of time to do research though cuz I'm probably not switching until I can get 10k ES or more, which is going to be expensive probably.

5.2k life and 3.6k ES mmmm. Still mostly in yellow maps but enjoying the league a lot more after the auto-organ patch lol. Not doing anything big brain with the new atlas or anything, just chucking watchstones in areas and running whatever I have. Still fun.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-22 21:53:21
December 22 2019 19:17 GMT
#31511
Man im zooming around with 4.2k hp on t16 maps on my ice golementalist and there is not really a way to get more. With way better gear i could probably get this up to 4.6k or something or I could spec MoM to get about 1.5k more mana hp but lose a third of my dps because of fewer auras. But i feel like it doesnt really matter. Metamorph shits on everything anyway and outside of that im actually doing okayish. Probably gonna level something tankier once ive got awakener down finally. Had 3 tries on him so far and fucked up to the storms eveery time, gotta watch a tutorial on how to move them correctly t.t

Edit: after having seen karv do some cheese logout shit on awakaner in hcssf i copied his tactic in softcore and finally got my first awakener kill. Was only tier 2 but the mechanics dont change, only more hp for tier 8 so i dont see why i wouldnt be able to do it the same way. Fucked up only twice, upon reentering i went wrong direction and once during the walls i blinked the wrong way but overall was pretty easy with the tactic.
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-23 06:51:58
December 23 2019 06:43 GMT
#31512
Got a Doctor from a stacked deck. Guess I can buy those CI upgrades now.
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
December 23 2019 08:27 GMT
#31513
Slowly getting into higher density maps and maybe I should stay in white maps instead. The conqueror effects are beautiful but my pc can't handle them :D
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10705 Posts
December 23 2019 14:54 GMT
#31514
I'm lvl 89 and just reached T9's... I can do them whiteout a problem but progress in general seems very slow on this new Atlas? Mapdrops seem fine but spawning the guys takes ages?
I'm running ~4600 Life, 600 Mana-Mom Assassin. The non stop elusive buff for Assas seems really, really good. Aside from the occasional oneshots i have absolutely no issues as long as i'm quick with that Manaflask.

I also traded for first Void Battery. My biggest single Item i could trade was worth 25c and i had to flip basically anything I had (including fusings/jewellers). Started with <20c at 15:00 p.m. and ended with 480 at 9 p.m. and it then took me nearly an hour to find someone that was willing to trade his exalts.... Shit was actually exhausting.


And now i'm poor again :D. Time to go for the second Void Battery.. Sigh.. And that 6l Loreweave.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-23 20:07:35
December 23 2019 19:49 GMT
#31515
Hey guys I wanted to ask your opinions on 2 1-handed cyclone builds I am currently molling over:
1-handed Cyclone impale without ahn's might and overleech and 1-handed cyclone impale with ahn's might and overleech ascendecy

Basically they are pretty close but one goes for Vaal Pact and overleech slayer ascendency points, while the other one doesn't.

Do you guys see any clear winner here?

For now I am following the first one that goes for Overwhelm and Impact, instead of Endless Hunger + Brutal Fervour, but I could very easily switch it up.
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
December 24 2019 01:39 GMT
#31516
I don't think I did overleech in 3.7 when they buffed cyclone. It feels like sacrilege but the skill was just that good at the time. Impact is way too good to pass up for Cyclone and the new Overwhelm is great too if you gear around the base crit. I think the overleech nodes feel like overkill nowadays, at least on softcore.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 24 2019 02:22 GMT
#31517
Didn't the leech rework just straight up kill overleech? Leech instances only last a max of 5s so you can't bank a meaningful amount of overleech anyway, and the reworked Slayer ascendancies just offer more.
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Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
December 24 2019 13:05 GMT
#31518
Overleech got nerfed heavily so that Ascendant doesnt get it and slayer was buffed in return so it can be at roughly the same values as before.
Got my build up to 4,9k hp and killed awakener 8 yesterday, a bit of a disappointment, literally the same fight just a bit dmg and hp but the fight is still only 3 minutes or so. Uber elder still way harder.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
December 25 2019 15:22 GMT
#31519
On December 24 2019 04:49 Latham wrote:
Hey guys I wanted to ask your opinions on 2 1-handed cyclone builds I am currently molling over:
1-handed Cyclone impale without ahn's might and overleech and 1-handed cyclone impale with ahn's might and overleech ascendecy

Basically they are pretty close but one goes for Vaal Pact and overleech slayer ascendency points, while the other one doesn't.

Do you guys see any clear winner here?

For now I am following the first one that goes for Overwhelm and Impact, instead of Endless Hunger + Brutal Fervour, but I could very easily switch it up.

Overleech is still quite good. I remember on my cycloner in Legion, I would spec into it when I did bossing like shaper / uber elder, it really saves your ass in fights like that. However, I have a feeling that leech instances wouldn't last long enough in Awakener fight.

For mapping and until T16s I used overwhelm and impact though, the damage / crit / etc is just too worth it. I would just stay like that until you do super high bosses and you can see if you need better sustain or not.
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
December 27 2019 04:23 GMT
#31520
Anybody got a newbie-friendly build link? I've done some PoE seasons in the past, but my friends usually quit as I'm just nearing endgame. I have no experience past filling out 75% of the Atlas. I no longer play more than 16 hours a week.

This season, I'd like to farm my way to defeating the Ubers for the first time, and whatever else I can manage on the other endgame paths.
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