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On October 18 2016 21:55 -Archangel- wrote:
Take into account that with every hit being crit, everyone will be frozen so I will be taking little damage in any fight unless it is a boss fight.
Also this melee version is not so I make a better build than AW, I am just trying to come up with valid melee build around using this unique weapon and elemental damage.
Also, first I have been looking how to make this a CI build but with stun immunity amulet being same slot as the 240 crit multi amulet I would have to sacrifice a lot of damage. Also with no shield being used CI builds suffer a lot more than life builds.
Stun immunity via Valyrium ring. Also cant do anything else other than totem I think. Reflect will just be too much.
Edit: anyone wanna get into pvp with me quick with smoke mine to test the totem accuracy thing ?
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On October 18 2016 22:25 vndestiny wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2016 21:55 -Archangel- wrote:
Take into account that with every hit being crit, everyone will be frozen so I will be taking little damage in any fight unless it is a boss fight.
Also this melee version is not so I make a better build than AW, I am just trying to come up with valid melee build around using this unique weapon and elemental damage.
Also, first I have been looking how to make this a CI build but with stun immunity amulet being same slot as the 240 crit multi amulet I would have to sacrifice a lot of damage. Also with no shield being used CI builds suffer a lot more than life builds. Stun immunity via Valyrium ring. Also cant do anything else other than totem I think. Reflect will just be too much. Edit: anyone wanna get into pvp with me quick with smoke mine to test the totem accuracy thing ?
Vaal pact and that unique flask that give 20% leech should help vs reflect?
Or just skip maps with reflect mods :D
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LOL OL OL holy shieett 6linked fused a trypanon on EHC
first time 6l ever
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OK, this would be a CI version of that Pathfinder elemental Cyclone:www.pathofexile.com
It has 16% elemental penetration and 24% penetration vs cold and lightning which would be its two main damage dealing elements.
Survivability should be much better it being a pathfinder CI, damage should be about half of that AW build since two totems = 2x damage. 1 totem base damage is about 2x Cyclone base damage but Cyclone has 50% better attack speed.
Maybe it could be enough to not die to reflect.
Alternative is a Trickster CI: www.pathofexile.com
This guy will have more ES and more Attack speed and he will be generating frenzy charges for a 20% more damage boost. I can run 4 auras with this character (Discipline, HoI, HoT and either Ele Weakness or Warlord's Mark) due to movement skills not costing mana (Cyclone is such skill) but he will not be immune to freeze (without using one slot on body for that) and he will have weaker base ele penetration and weaker damage overall due to not having OP Pathfinder bonuses
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On October 18 2016 23:35 Probemicro wrote:
LOL OL OL holy shieett 6linked fused a trypanon on EHC
first time 6l ever
Haha, I see you went ahead to play AW trypanon build on this league :D
If you die, sell it to me on standard league. I don't mind playing this on standard if I will have access to 6L weapon :D
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On October 18 2016 21:41 Lachrymose wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2016 21:09 LagLovah wrote:On October 18 2016 15:00 EchelonTee wrote:how did you test that? I searched everywhere and virtually everyone thinks that attack totems require accuracy, because offence stats tab shows "Chance to Hit". honestly I think it's a bug if totems aren't requiring accuracy !! if you play BV be careful, it's bugged atm and can cause you to lose all buffs (flasks, charges, etc), could fck you https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1756165 People assume it can miss because your attack tab shows you can miss, but just test it out. I've played 2 siege ballista characters + warchief... attacks can be evaded and blocked, but you don't 'miss'. I've also played ranged attack totem, and i cant remember on that one, but I believe it was the same. It's been like this for a long time, not sure its a bug. ? Evaded is the same thing as 'missing' due to a lack of accuracy. Accuracy and evasion are an opposed system. The hit percentage displayed on the character sheet is against a generic level-appropriate evasion value. Do you mean it can be dodged and blocked, not evaded?
Ya I meant dodged. Don't see it often as not many mobs dodge... blocking is more common ofc.
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On October 19 2016 07:21 LagLovah wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2016 21:41 Lachrymose wrote:On October 18 2016 21:09 LagLovah wrote:On October 18 2016 15:00 EchelonTee wrote:how did you test that? I searched everywhere and virtually everyone thinks that attack totems require accuracy, because offence stats tab shows "Chance to Hit". honestly I think it's a bug if totems aren't requiring accuracy !! if you play BV be careful, it's bugged atm and can cause you to lose all buffs (flasks, charges, etc), could fck you https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1756165 People assume it can miss because your attack tab shows you can miss, but just test it out. I've played 2 siege ballista characters + warchief... attacks can be evaded and blocked, but you don't 'miss'. I've also played ranged attack totem, and i cant remember on that one, but I believe it was the same. It's been like this for a long time, not sure its a bug. ? Evaded is the same thing as 'missing' due to a lack of accuracy. Accuracy and evasion are an opposed system. The hit percentage displayed on the character sheet is against a generic level-appropriate evasion value. Do you mean it can be dodged and blocked, not evaded? Ya I meant dodged. Don't see it often as not many mobs dodge... blocking is more common ofc.
Hm I just test Ancestral Warchief with 775 accuracy against merc Hillock, who I think doesn't have dodge chance. He definitely evaded once every 6 attack or so, which seems about right with accuracy check at that level.
Haven't tested with ROT or siege ballista though so they may behave differently, but for melee totem I think accuracy is needed.
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I decided to do life Pathfinder Trypanon Cyclone, I cba to try CI with a character that will not have an ES shield, will not have ES gloves, will have to spend one ring slot for stun resistance and cannot use Tabula Rasa for long as I need the body slot for ES body armor for CI. And I don't play HC so I don't care if I die here and there with life build.
So my planned links are:
+ Show Spoiler +6L: (G)Cyclone+(G)Added Cold+(B)Added Lightning+(R)Weapon Elemental Damage+(G)Faster Attacks+(B)Conc effect/Increased AoE
4L: (G)HoI+(B)HoT+(B)Blasphemy+(R)Warlord Mark
4L: CWDT+Immortal Call+Increased Duration+Vaal Grace
4L: Stone Golem+Increased Minion Life+Faster Attacks+Leap Slam
6L: AW+Added Cold+Added Lightning+WEA+FA+Conc Effect
The plan is to use single AW as ranged weapon attack and assistance vs bosses and eventually put Kaom's armor in that slot for a huge life boost and just go full Cyclone :D
I bought Trypanon , got it 6S with 20 jews and then wasted 115 fusions and didn't even get a 5L 
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On October 19 2016 17:09 vndestiny wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2016 07:21 LagLovah wrote:On October 18 2016 21:41 Lachrymose wrote:On October 18 2016 21:09 LagLovah wrote:On October 18 2016 15:00 EchelonTee wrote:how did you test that? I searched everywhere and virtually everyone thinks that attack totems require accuracy, because offence stats tab shows "Chance to Hit". honestly I think it's a bug if totems aren't requiring accuracy !! if you play BV be careful, it's bugged atm and can cause you to lose all buffs (flasks, charges, etc), could fck you https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1756165 People assume it can miss because your attack tab shows you can miss, but just test it out. I've played 2 siege ballista characters + warchief... attacks can be evaded and blocked, but you don't 'miss'. I've also played ranged attack totem, and i cant remember on that one, but I believe it was the same. It's been like this for a long time, not sure its a bug. ? Evaded is the same thing as 'missing' due to a lack of accuracy. Accuracy and evasion are an opposed system. The hit percentage displayed on the character sheet is against a generic level-appropriate evasion value. Do you mean it can be dodged and blocked, not evaded? Ya I meant dodged. Don't see it often as not many mobs dodge... blocking is more common ofc. Hm I just test Ancestral Warchief with 775 accuracy against merc Hillock, who I think doesn't have dodge chance. He definitely evaded once every 6 attack or so, which seems about right with accuracy check at that level. Haven't tested with ROT or siege ballista though so they may behave differently, but for melee totem I think accuracy is needed.
Guess its possible, just looked my Warchief char has 59% chance to hit and plays fine, maybe it has a boost to accuracy, because that should be nearly unplayable levels of hit rate.
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On October 19 2016 21:09 LagLovah wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2016 17:09 vndestiny wrote:On October 19 2016 07:21 LagLovah wrote:On October 18 2016 21:41 Lachrymose wrote:On October 18 2016 21:09 LagLovah wrote:On October 18 2016 15:00 EchelonTee wrote:how did you test that? I searched everywhere and virtually everyone thinks that attack totems require accuracy, because offence stats tab shows "Chance to Hit". honestly I think it's a bug if totems aren't requiring accuracy !! if you play BV be careful, it's bugged atm and can cause you to lose all buffs (flasks, charges, etc), could fck you https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1756165 People assume it can miss because your attack tab shows you can miss, but just test it out. I've played 2 siege ballista characters + warchief... attacks can be evaded and blocked, but you don't 'miss'. I've also played ranged attack totem, and i cant remember on that one, but I believe it was the same. It's been like this for a long time, not sure its a bug. ? Evaded is the same thing as 'missing' due to a lack of accuracy. Accuracy and evasion are an opposed system. The hit percentage displayed on the character sheet is against a generic level-appropriate evasion value. Do you mean it can be dodged and blocked, not evaded? Ya I meant dodged. Don't see it often as not many mobs dodge... blocking is more common ofc. Hm I just test Ancestral Warchief with 775 accuracy against merc Hillock, who I think doesn't have dodge chance. He definitely evaded once every 6 attack or so, which seems about right with accuracy check at that level. Haven't tested with ROT or siege ballista though so they may behave differently, but for melee totem I think accuracy is needed. Guess its possible, just looked my Warchief char has 59% chance to hit and plays fine, maybe it has a boost to accuracy, because that should be nearly unplayable levels of hit rate.
Maybe you just don't notice as with two they hit fast and one shot stuff anyways :D
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On October 19 2016 18:34 -Archangel- wrote:I bought Trypanon , got it 6S with 20 jews and then wasted 115 fusions and didn't even get a 5L
I need to comment on my own post. I just checked prices on poe.trade and 23 fusions is 10 chaos. 6S5L Trypanon is 30chaos.... I feel like an idiot
Can anyone explain to me what is the point of trying to link stuff yourself in this game?
I now know why I would always quit playing PoE after few weeks before poe.trade existed....
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On October 20 2016 23:22 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2016 18:34 -Archangel- wrote:I bought Trypanon , got it 6S with 20 jews and then wasted 115 fusions and didn't even get a 5L I need to comment on my own post. I just checked prices on poe.trade and 23 fusions is 10 chaos. 6S5L Trypanon is 30chaos.... I feel like an idiot
that sounds like someone is trying to sandbag the price. scroll down a bit and i bet most prices are like 2x or more. ill also bet he wont reply when you message him.
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On October 20 2016 23:24 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2016 23:22 -Archangel- wrote:On October 19 2016 18:34 -Archangel- wrote:I bought Trypanon , got it 6S with 20 jews and then wasted 115 fusions and didn't even get a 5L I need to comment on my own post. I just checked prices on poe.trade and 23 fusions is 10 chaos. 6S5L Trypanon is 30chaos.... I feel like an idiot that sounds like someone is trying to sandbag the price. scroll down a bit and i bet most prices are like 2x or more. ill also bet he wont reply when you message him.
If you are talking about price of Trypanon there are 4 around price of 30chaos, only one was online atm.
And you cannot really charge much more when prophecy item for 5S5L is now 24-25c. The extra you charge is only for the pleasure of having +1 unlinked slot.
For some armors like Cloak of Flame that cost 40c for 6S5L it is not worth extra 15c.
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Also I noticed currency market is borked. There is a 6 chaos difference atm between sale and buy price of exalt. You can earn 6 chaos by buying one with chaos and then selling it again to another person that has it listed he is buying ex for chaos.....
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Those represent market manipulation where people lie about what they are willing to buy or sell at so that others will mis-value their own currency
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huh, TIL trypanon is insanely cheap. thought it'd be at least the price of a 5L, guess not.
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On October 21 2016 03:48 ticklishmusic wrote:
huh, TIL trypanon is insanely cheap. thought it'd be at least the price of a 5L, guess not.
apparently its like 10x more on HC because chaos are actually worth something so perandus is much less popular
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The currency market is way too tightly controlled for a 6c profit from an ex flip to just appear. If you see something like that you should know something's up.
You used to be able to print money doing all kinds of dumb stuff like buying low currency and cycling it through vendors and reselling some higher currency at profit. But stuff like that even was a long time ago. With how robust the tools are for monitoring and manipulating the market amateur stuff like that is pretty much gone.
All worthwhile markets are being manipulated and intercepted with custom programs that process the river slightly faster than poe.trade. How dumb you have to be to go through with a sale when you get whispered within seconds and then mass whispered twenty seconds later I don't know.
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Lvling is so tedious ....
If I haven't bought every single piece of gear for my new char I would prob give up soon enough =/
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 I must be one of the few people that don't really mind leveling. Although I'm all for removing cruel.
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