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solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
August 25 2016 15:36 GMT
#21821
Ripped my lvl 93 earthquaker on third Atziri. I oneshot myself with initial attack on mirror. Knew she had reflect but didn't expect to instantly oneshot myself haha (this is with 8 endurance charges, 15k armor, 28% foritfy and arctic armour). I don't mind though I was looking for dumb shit to do anyways since its end of the league. Was planning to attempt core later today which wouldve killed me. (Did it in standard just now, yep, definitely killed me). Very proud of my char though. Never managed to get this far/rich. Had a six link marohi, voidheart and 30% reduced earthquake enchant on a really good helm (not on my devoto's sadly).

Going to do CI whispering ice next league. I have a question about profane bloom (occultitst ascendancy node) though. A couple of months ago there were people reporting killing mobs with profane bloom caused them to not drop loot. Does anyone know if this is still the case?
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 26 2016 06:11 GMT
#21822
I haven't noticed loot issues on my occultist.

That said, I'd seriously recommend going elementalist if the reflect node isn't changed, I'm able to cast whispering ice into the mirror clone in atziri.
insitelol
Profile Joined August 2012
845 Posts
August 26 2016 06:49 GMT
#21823
Just wanted to clarify something.
I've been playing this game back in the beta and some time afther the release. What was appealing to me back then was the difficulty of the game. It was really challenging starting from the 2nd rerun, 3rd was a real nightmare. I really miss the days where melees where so underpowered it was really interesting to level a melee character it didn't allow a single mistake in the talent tree etc etc. But what happened to the game later didn't impress me at all. I drop characters after ~15 hours of gameplay not because its hard, but because it is literrally 0 challenge with almost any build. Facerolling dozens of mobs on any difficulty really makes no sense to me. Ye, they say its all about endgame map farming especially with the new atlas release, but it's actually all the same, the only difference is you need unique gear for your build, and it's really not that hard to obtain considering pretty low prices on the market. So to summ it up the whole concept of the game's progression is not very appealing to me: faceroll everything up to endgame content (and its pretty time consuming these days i'd say) then farm some money and get uniques to faceroll maps. Anyone prove me wrong cause i can't find any motivation to play this game, though i would really like to.
Less is more.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-26 10:22:35
August 26 2016 10:00 GMT
#21824
Hmm I've been thinking I haven't played Arc in a while and I really liked it back when I played it (before Ascendancy). Maybe I'll play it again. I heard thanks to Elemental Overload and all the buffs it works quite fine as non crit nowadays. Perhaps I'll go with Trickster, 5+ frenzy charges and lots of ES.

Something like this passive tree. Focusing on cast speed as the dmg range on Arc sucks. Would use Blasphemy with Warlord's Mark and Ele Weakness probably, the later one should be better than using Wrath. I could probably skip going to the mid as the ES on the tree is quite ridiculous and instead go for Vaal Pact (as the tree doesn't even have Life Regen anyway and even as non crit reflect is said to be an issue in some forum posts) and a bit more damage. That'd mean something like this.

There are a lot of different ways to build Arc tho... going crit isn't very hard nowadays and could also be done (for more acceptable boss dps ^^), and Inquisitor works great for both crit and non crit, Elementalist doesn't need a comment (don't wanna play one again though), Occultist probably works too. Also not sure if going ES and CI is a good idea, but the potential ES pool can be huge which I like. My Life build always end up at at most 6k.

edit: A consecrated ground Inquisitor looks fun, can reach 10+% ES regen... hmmm.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 26 2016 10:57 GMT
#21825
That's an insane amount of %es for not a whole heap of reason, given the absurd amount of es that tricksters provide.

That said with arc I don't really see the purpose in not going crit and converting to fire for massive ignites. Given that, I tend to think that increasing the damage is better then increasing the cast speed especially since you get like 60+ % from being a trickster.

Something like this
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-26 11:08:11
August 26 2016 11:06 GMT
#21826
Looks interesting too, but you'd definitely need to pick up Vaal Pact if you go crit tbh... especially if you don't focus on cast speed but on spell damage (which I find questionable given the huge variance). Plus I don't really like to worry about power charges without auto generation. ^^
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-26 11:09:55
August 26 2016 11:08 GMT
#21827
Easily have charge generation, and vaal pact is 4 points away. What worries me about that build is the lack of vinktars :\

Yeah the damage range on arc is retarded, I'm gonna give it a shot though if I ever get a taming.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 26 2016 11:12 GMT
#21828
On August 26 2016 20:08 bo1b wrote:
Easily have charge generation, and vaal pact is 4 points away. What worries me about that build is the lack of vinktars :\

Yeah the damage range on arc is retarded, I'm gonna give it a shot though if I ever get a taming.

Doesn't vinktar work with Ghost Reaver?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 26 2016 11:13 GMT
#21829
On August 26 2016 20:12 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2016 20:08 bo1b wrote:
Easily have charge generation, and vaal pact is 4 points away. What worries me about that build is the lack of vinktars :\

Yeah the damage range on arc is retarded, I'm gonna give it a shot though if I ever get a taming.

Doesn't vinktar work with Ghost Reaver?

If everything's converted to fire the vinktar's is fairly meaningless.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 26 2016 11:18 GMT
#21830
On August 26 2016 20:13 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2016 20:12 HolydaKing wrote:
On August 26 2016 20:08 bo1b wrote:
Easily have charge generation, and vaal pact is 4 points away. What worries me about that build is the lack of vinktars :\

Yeah the damage range on arc is retarded, I'm gonna give it a shot though if I ever get a taming.

Doesn't vinktar work with Ghost Reaver?

If everything's converted to fire the vinktar's is fairly meaningless.

Oh yeah, well.. What's the plus of playing it like you said? Just because of the possibility of using the Taming? Is Taming that good? I'd like to think most mobs wouldn't live long enough for it to matter when going crit?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 26 2016 11:38 GMT
#21831
On August 26 2016 20:18 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2016 20:13 bo1b wrote:
On August 26 2016 20:12 HolydaKing wrote:
On August 26 2016 20:08 bo1b wrote:
Easily have charge generation, and vaal pact is 4 points away. What worries me about that build is the lack of vinktars :\

Yeah the damage range on arc is retarded, I'm gonna give it a shot though if I ever get a taming.

Doesn't vinktar work with Ghost Reaver?

If everything's converted to fire the vinktar's is fairly meaningless.

Oh yeah, well.. What's the plus of playing it like you said? Just because of the possibility of using the Taming? Is Taming that good? I'd like to think most mobs wouldn't live long enough for it to matter when going crit?

No idea tbh, I just want to experiment with huge ignites haha.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
August 26 2016 17:12 GMT
#21832
On August 26 2016 15:49 insitelol wrote:
Just wanted to clarify something.
I've been playing this game back in the beta and some time afther the release. What was appealing to me back then was the difficulty of the game. It was really challenging starting from the 2nd rerun, 3rd was a real nightmare. I really miss the days where melees where so underpowered it was really interesting to level a melee character it didn't allow a single mistake in the talent tree etc etc. But what happened to the game later didn't impress me at all. I drop characters after ~15 hours of gameplay not because its hard, but because it is literrally 0 challenge with almost any build. Facerolling dozens of mobs on any difficulty really makes no sense to me. Ye, they say its all about endgame map farming especially with the new atlas release, but it's actually all the same, the only difference is you need unique gear for your build, and it's really not that hard to obtain considering pretty low prices on the market. So to summ it up the whole concept of the game's progression is not very appealing to me: faceroll everything up to endgame content (and its pretty time consuming these days i'd say) then farm some money and get uniques to faceroll maps. Anyone prove me wrong cause i can't find any motivation to play this game, though i would really like to.

If you want a challenge in PoE you need to make up your own in my opinion.

Niche builds, ladder placement, hitting 100, playing self-found, specific boss goals, ingame challenges (though most are grindy a few are usually straight up hard), anything like that.

Personally even though I enjoyed the early days a lot (I'd say Nemesis/Invasion/Beyond were the 'best designed' leagues, the latter two after fixes obv - bonus points to Tempest which I really liked) and definitely miss those types of leagues to me PoE or ARPGs in general aren't games I play for a difficult challenge. Stuff like Souls games, Bayonetta, DotA 2 or even Arma 3 are games I play to be challenged and I'm getting my fix for that type of thing from there.

In PoE I enjoy small tryhard shit more and being able to just grind for a while a few times per year. The 48 Flashback for example reminded me how much I used to enjoy racing. I used to love making my own personal special efficient builds and I still enjoy optimizing builds but I'd argue the game is so well understood nowadays overall that getting genuinely original (and efficient) with an idea is really, really hard to do.

Hardcore as an environment also doesn't encourage me to get seek those challenges in the first place. Taking the last dozen or even hundred hours as punishment for misjudging your abilities doesn't encourage me to seek out situations where that might happen. Biggest reasons for me to actually play HC is the economy, the early race and being able to mock Oversky here and there. =P

An environment where everyone is forced to do crazy shit (Invasion, Flashback league e.g.)? Awesome. But forcing that stuff on myself (including the HC consequences) when I have other easier or smarter options? No way.

This will probably be one of the leagues where I'll swap to Softcore 3-4 weeks in just so I can actually get to see and try out all the new content without feeling like an idiot.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-26 17:51:10
August 26 2016 17:50 GMT
#21833
Please evo, the real reason you play hc over SC is you can't handle the amount of ridicule I would throw your way. I still remember when you tried that crap a few leagues ago.

That said, depending how harshly gated this content is, I might not be opposed to a hiatus into SC again, to see what's up.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 26 2016 17:53 GMT
#21834
i can only play retardedly tanky builds on hc i'm so fukin bad
made level 91 in perandus hc (yes yes free stuff league) so i can pretend i dont sux
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Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-26 18:03:57
August 26 2016 18:01 GMT
#21835
To add to evo's post. There is challanging content that can be done, and there is hardcore mode. Evo is right though, that it is a tradeoff. I play hardcore because I just feel like playing in softcore where there are no real consequences turns the game into a timesink; when you can just play endlessly and never suffer any consequences you might as well be playing a stupid clicker game that goes on forever or something like that. So I play hardcore. But now hardcore has its drawbacks as well. You want to do what works in hardcore and you want to take as few risks as possible. This means that all the new content that comes out, you wait until you can watch a streamer do it or something before you go in and RIP. It also means that between building your character uniquely to test things out or trying the current op meta, you just want to do whats OP because you don't want to be playing around in hardcore with shit that might not work at all.

So you have to discover what you enjoy. If you like hardcore but want to do some of the actually challenging stuff, then play around that. If you only want to try out all of the new content and test things out with it and so on, then play in softcore where you get the luxury of dying and then perhaps trying something else, and so on.

But, there are hard encounters/bossfights out there, you just have to get to them. Some of the content isn't really obvious imo (like special maps with map device), so the 'casual' player who doesn't read up on the game or watch any streamers may not know about it. Similar to all the vendor recipes I guess, there is nothing within the game that tells you about them, you have to discover it by chance or find out from somewhere.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
August 26 2016 18:46 GMT
#21836
On August 27 2016 02:50 LagLovah wrote:
Please evo, the real reason you play hc over SC is you can't handle the amount of ridicule I would throw your way. I still remember when you tried that crap a few leagues ago.

That said, depending how harshly gated this content is, I might not be opposed to a hiatus into SC again, to see what's up.

No way in hell I'd give up the first 1-2 weeks in HC those are wayyy too much fun. Nice Perandus Portal btw!
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3440 Posts
August 26 2016 18:57 GMT
#21837
On August 27 2016 02:50 LagLovah wrote:
Please evo, the real reason you play hc over SC is you can't handle the amount of ridicule I would throw your way. I still remember when you tried that crap a few leagues ago.

That said, depending how harshly gated this content is, I might not be opposed to a hiatus into SC again, to see what's up.

Ehhhhhhhh come one let him have some scrubcore fun. And you should too
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1478 Posts
August 26 2016 19:03 GMT
#21838
looking for invite, @fastfierce
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
August 26 2016 19:04 GMT
#21839
No clue what to play next season, might just do earthquake if it doesn't get nerfed, anyone have any ideas for fun builds that are also strong?
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
wubskis
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom37 Posts
August 26 2016 21:04 GMT
#21840
pleasantly surprised to find out that my work laptop can "run" poe after my pc just died

nothings gonna stop me playing my dumbass meme build and quitting at the 2 week mark
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