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Ingebrigtsen
Norway343 Posts
On January 09 2012 04:59 ilj.psa wrote: The tackle was as clean as you can get. Can't believe that was a red. Not sure how shit goes down in peru, but in most other places, a two footed tackle, when he's in the air, meaning he has no control, is a red card. But, most refs in England doesn't really give red cards for that, even if they should | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On January 09 2012 04:59 ilj.psa wrote: The tackle was as clean as you can get. Can't believe that was a red. Clean only by luck. Studs up, two feet, it's dangerous, stupid and it's a booking to be sure. Technically I can see that a red can be given for it. However, at 12 minutes into the game and when the tackle DID come through cleanly, you give a yellow for it and no one, NO ONE is going to complain that it should have been red, and you still have a game on. On January 09 2012 05:00 RvB wrote: Obviously he is not world class anymore, he is 37 he only played because he decided to help United out anyway Yes but honestly, is he going to help? He was partially responsible for Aguero's goal, he said himself when he 'retired' that his 'legs [had] gone'. Ferguson might think Scholes has something more to give to this team but I frankly do not. | ||
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Stimp
South Africa780 Posts
On January 09 2012 05:12 Ingebrigtsen wrote: Not sure how shit goes down in peru, but in most other places, a two footed tackle, when he's in the air, meaning he has no control, is a red card. But, most refs in England doesn't really give red cards for that, even if they should By the letter of they law, its a red. But its also the reason people think soccer has become a soft sport because he got the ball, and no one even appealed except rooney. Nani didn't even go down like he usually does clutching his leg. So about 10/15 years ago its a clean good tackle, today its not. It's one of those where he gives it, and you know its harsh but you can't argue it. If he never gave it, I don't think anyone would have even noticed it. | ||
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yippi
Hong Kong8 Posts
On January 09 2012 04:46 mememolly wrote: you must feel bad that Liverpool have spent so much money this year instead of home grown players, United bought all their good players Cantona, Ronaldo etc, sure they made Beckham but most of the others who came out of that group were/are overrated, all the top teams essentially buy their success to think otherwise is just ignorant and naive, and you're probably just mad that another team has come along and are going to win the EPL, something Liverpool will never do tbh As for the high opinions of "top" players following Scholes's retirement, well some of those players are pretty stupid, hence why good players don't always make good coaches, look at Shearer, amazing player but shit coach and overall a pretty dumb guy, you going to trust his opinion? lol I'm not saying he was terrible just heavily overrated, if he was on Zidane's level England would have achieved at an international level ronaldo was nobody when united bought him, and united spent 4-5 yrs to make him one of the best player in the world. same can be said for rooney...etc. they had potential, but not already established quality players when united bought them. sure all teams eventually "buy" their success, but teams like united/arsenal/liverpool hv a balanced way of doing it, unlike city, they just look at the top players' list off of football manager and try to buy as many as they can. As for the group of beckham, scholes, giggs, neville brothers. could u please explain why most of them were/are overrated? and please dont make the argument of international play blah blah blah, if thats the case then players like messi would be heavily overrated wouldnt u say? | ||
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MorningMusume11
United States3490 Posts
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UdderChaos
United Kingdom707 Posts
On January 09 2012 04:46 mememolly wrote: As for the high opinions of "top" players following Scholes's retirement, well some of those players are pretty stupid, hence why good players don't always make good coaches, look at Shearer, amazing player but shit coach and overall a pretty dumb guy, you going to trust his opinion? lol I'm not saying he was terrible just heavily overrated, if he was on Zidane's level England would have achieved at an international level Right so Argentina that did awful in the world cup paired with Portugal, so that means that Ronaldo and messi are much worse than zidane by that logic? Not to mention scholes retired from international football early in his career. And you put "top" in inverted commas as its debatable, Henry said "Without any doubt the best player in the Premiership has to be Scholes... He knows how to do everything.", sir bobby said "Paul is always so in control and pin-point accurate with his passing — a beautiful player to watch", Alan Hansen, not the best player ever but a very well respected pundit, said "one of the top three to five players to have ever played in the Premier League". Xavi rates him kinda well too: "A role model. For me, and I really mean this, he's the best central midfielder I've seen in the last 15, 20 years. He's spectacular, he has it all, the last pass, goals, he's strong, he doesn't lose the ball, vision. If he'd been Spanish he might have been rated more highly. Players love him.". But even if the idea that some of the best players in the world ive mentioned are talking out of there arse and over-rate him, what about coaches? well next to fergie you dont get much bigger than Pep himself, who said of scholes: "Out of everyone at Manchester United, I would pick out Scholes – he is the best midfielder of his generation,". Im sorry but there no doubt he was a VERY good player. | ||
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King.Crimson
Romania478 Posts
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MorningMusume11
United States3490 Posts
On January 09 2012 07:28 King.Crimson wrote: This is an outrage!! That Espanol defender practically prevented the goal with his hand and the referee doesn't give penalty?! WHAT Unless you wanna say Casilla got a penalty for time wasting...  | ||
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jeffreyklz
Netherlands41 Posts
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darksub
Argentina302 Posts
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Greem
730 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Stimp
South Africa780 Posts
On January 09 2012 16:50 zulu_nation8 wrote: It was probably a yellow and United did get a break, entertaining game though. Could have been more so | ||
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hasuprotoss
United States4690 Posts
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6326 Posts
On January 09 2012 07:22 UdderChaos wrote: Right so Argentina that did awful in the world cup paired with Portugal, so that means that Ronaldo and messi are much worse than zidane by that logic? Not to mention scholes retired from international football early in his career. And you put "top" in inverted commas as its debatable, Henry said "Without any doubt the best player in the Premiership has to be Scholes... He knows how to do everything.", sir bobby said "Paul is always so in control and pin-point accurate with his passing — a beautiful player to watch", Alan Hansen, not the best player ever but a very well respected pundit, said "one of the top three to five players to have ever played in the Premier League". Xavi rates him kinda well too: "A role model. For me, and I really mean this, he's the best central midfielder I've seen in the last 15, 20 years. He's spectacular, he has it all, the last pass, goals, he's strong, he doesn't lose the ball, vision. If he'd been Spanish he might have been rated more highly. Players love him.". But even if the idea that some of the best players in the world ive mentioned are talking out of there arse and over-rate him, what about coaches? well next to fergie you dont get much bigger than Pep himself, who said of scholes: "Out of everyone at Manchester United, I would pick out Scholes – he is the best midfielder of his generation,". Im sorry but there no doubt he was a VERY good player. I doubt that there are a lot of coaches who actually need to teach the players anything, I don't think ronaldo and messi need anyone to teach them football, the coaches are more there to to build the team and get them prepared mentally and physically but not technically. Take for example van gaal, good coach but he was an average player I don't think he knows more about football than the players he coached. My point is that coaches don't have more knowledge about football than players and that players know how to judge other players atleast as good as choaches if not better. | ||
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Ayush_SCtoss
India3051 Posts
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Kira__
Sweden2672 Posts
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Can't believe those idiots at QPR sacked Warnock after he got them out of the championship, put together a good team and was going to make it awesome with the january transfers  | ||
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Sadir
Vatican City State1176 Posts
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