EPTTL Chess Match 4 - Page 138
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Goolpsy
Denmark301 Posts
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Ng5
702 Posts
calgar wrote: Slightly off topic... I've been playing a few hours a day on chess.com recently and was wondering if anyone was interested in playing a few series. I don't play in OTB tournaments right now so I've lost all my chess friends  Playing on chess.com kinda collides with my religion... No who am I kidding, I'm an atheist. I just dislike the site. Will think about it later, though. Not this month, but from February I might have time to play a few games with you every once in a while. What time controls do you prefer? | ||
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Malinor
Germany4735 Posts
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ApocAlypsE007
Israel1007 Posts
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wizard944
194 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + let him take the knight, we take the biship, and gain initiative while threatening to promote oh, and on the topic of chess.com, my username is wizard944 if anyone wants to challenge me on there | ||
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HypertonicHydroponic
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
However, it's not our only possibility, and I don't think we should rush into a runaway vote for that move. Black still can put some pressure on us after that move, and I don't think we can be 100% sure of coming out with our lead intact. Therefore I think we should take a bit of time to analyze the positions that follow that move, and stay open to the possibility of choosing a different 31st move, such as + Show Spoiler + 31. g4 For instance, here's a position that could possibly follow from + Show Spoiler + 31. Rxh7 | ||
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calgar
United States1277 Posts
On January 22 2012 16:24 Ng5 wrote: I can see why you don't like it I guess. I only really started because I forgot my FICS password and was in a trolling/jokey mood. And then I kept coming back to do the problem of the day, and before I knew it I was a regular. I certainly wouldn't ever pay for it but I've been satisfied with it for the most part. There was a "wtf american computer cheater" phase but I'm past that rating region now.Playing on chess.com kinda collides with my religion... No who am I kidding, I'm an atheist. I just dislike the site. Will think about it later, though. Not this month, but from February I might have time to play a few games with you every once in a while. What time controls do you prefer? I used to be a big 1 0 fan but I don't think that does much to improve your game so I don't play it much anymore. Mostly 3 0, 3 1, 5 0 for blitz. 15 0 if I'm in the mood to care about the game. and wizard944, I couldn't find you when I did a search. | ||
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Ng5
702 Posts
As the 960 game started and I forgot I wanted to add a whole week there I won't be making a reply here for three full days. I will update the pictures somewhere in between and post then. You will have a four full day for your move after my reply as well as to wrap up your ideas for the 960 one if you're in both games. Cheers! | ||
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Ng5
702 Posts
I don't really care to be honest. I do dick around and troll hobby sites every now and then. But I genuinely try to stay the F away from people/sites who believes so strongly they are something when they aren't. Despite not flipping out at it or caring too hard I still stay away when I can. And chess.com tries very hard to be something it isn't. Maybe I will take it as a complete trolling and go try it. That's how I could stand playing on this other hobby site back in August. And wouldn't trust ten bucks on their cheat moderation ever. Far not professional enough to know enough about computer cheaters let alone catch them. And it's browser based isn't it? Everyone and their grandmother can cheat however they want in a browser/flash/macromedia based platform. They've been doing so for more than a decade now. At least try and make it harder for them... | ||
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garbanzo
United States4046 Posts
On January 23 2012 10:21 qrs wrote: OK, about our next move: It's pretty clear by now that we're going to vote for 30. Ke1, and I think we can be fairly sure that our opponent will respond with 30...Bxa3. At that point, we have a pretty obvious follow-up + Show Spoiler + which may well be a very good move. However, it's not our only possibility, and I don't think we should rush into a runaway vote for that move. Black still can put some pressure on us after that move, and I don't think we can be 100% sure of coming out with our lead intact. Therefore I think we should take a bit of time to analyze the positions that follow that move, and stay open to the possibility of choosing a different 31st move, such as + Show Spoiler + 31. g4 For instance, here's a position that could possibly follow from + Show Spoiler + 31. Rxh7 + Show Spoiler + I think even more dangerous than 31. Rxh7 Bc5 is 31. ... Bb4. With our rook all the way out there, we can't get back in time to prevent Ra1+ then Rd1 where we end up with a terrible exchange. Edit: Umm...maybe it's okay. I think we can still do Rh8+ then Rb8 to prevent this. | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On January 24 2012 02:52 garbanzo wrote: Could you elaborate on that? After + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler + I think even more dangerous than 31. Rxh7 Bc5 is 31. ... Bb4. With our rook all the way out there, we can't get back in time to prevent Ra1+ then Rd1 where we end up with a terrible exchange. Edit: Umm...maybe it's okay. I think we can still do Rh8+ then Rb8 to prevent this. 31. Rxh7 Bb4 32. h4 (for instance) Ra1+ 33. Kf2 Rd1 34. Ke3 I do see that Black could at least force a draw in that line, which is not ideal. | ||
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garbanzo
United States4046 Posts
On January 24 2012 05:22 qrs wrote: Could you elaborate on that? After + Show Spoiler + 31. Rxh7 Bb4 32. h4 (for instance) Ra1+ 33. Kf2 Rd1 34. Ke3 I do see that Black could at least force a draw in that line, which is not ideal. + Show Spoiler + 34. Ke3 BxN+. So white doesn't want to do Ke3, but anything else is 34. ... BxN 35. BxB RxB. | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On January 24 2012 05:51 garbanzo wrote: Oh, of course. I was being a blind fool. You're 100% right. Just to fill in the part that you didn't mention, + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler + 34. Ke3 RxN. So white doesn't want to do Ke3, but anything else is 34. ... BxN 35. BxB RxB. moving the Knight out of the way fails to ...d2. Well, at least this probably makes our decision for next move easier. I'd been thinking that + Show Spoiler + we might want to delay Rxh7 in order to delay the threat of ...Bc5 ...Bb4 is just as threatening, then I don't see much point in delaying Rxh7 after all. | ||
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RAGEMOAR The Pope
United States216 Posts
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garbanzo
United States4046 Posts
On January 24 2012 06:01 qrs wrote: Oh, of course. I was being a blind fool. You're 100% right. Just to fill in the part that you didn't mention, + Show Spoiler + moving the Knight out of the way fails to ...d2. Well, at least this probably makes our decision for next move easier. I'd been thinking that + Show Spoiler + we might want to delay Rxh7 in order to delay the threat of ...Bc5 ...Bb4 is just as threatening, then I don't see much point in delaying Rxh7 after all. Hmm...I've been analyzing this way too much, really need to get something done. However, I have another line that I feel like we should be concerned with. + Show Spoiler + 31. Rxh7 Bb4 32. Rh8+ Kd7 33. Rb8 Ba5 34. Rb1 Bc7. That doesn't seem like a good position to be in. | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On January 24 2012 06:38 garbanzo wrote: Well, I've added your line to the tree, beginning with the position after your move 31... and ending with the position after your move 33. I agree that this is probably the most important line for us to focus on.Hmm...I've been analyzing this way too much, really need to get something done. However, I have another line that I feel like we should be concerned with. + Show Spoiler + 31. Rxh7 Bb4 32. Rh8+ Kd7 33. Rb8 Ba5 34. Rb1 Bc7. That doesn't seem like a good position to be in. As for your most recent line, why doesn't it seem like a good position to be in? Here's how your end-position looks to me: + Show Spoiler + We have a choice between initiating the Bishop exchange or playing g3 and leaving Black to exchange Bishops if he so chooses. In either case, we continue to keep our pawn majority as the board continues to simplify. Now our d-pawn is weak, but so is Black's f-pawn, and I think we can counter his threats to the one by threatening the other. For instance 35. BxB KxB 36. g4 Kd6 37. Rb6+ edit: I added the rest of your line to the tree. Last position is here. | ||
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garbanzo
United States4046 Posts
On January 24 2012 08:35 qrs wrote: Well, I've added your line to the tree, beginning with the position after your move 31... and ending with the position after your move 33. I agree that this is probably the most important line for us to focus on. As for your most recent line, why doesn't it seem like a good position to be in? Here's how your end-position looks to me: + Show Spoiler + We have a choice between initiating the Bishop exchange or playing g3 and leaving Black to exchange Bishops if he so chooses. In either case, we continue to keep our pawn majority as the board continues to simplify. Now our d-pawn is weak, but so is Black's f-pawn, and I think we can counter his threats to the one by threatening the other. For instance 35. BxB KxB 36. g4 Kd6 37. Rb6+ edit: I added the rest of your line to the tree. Last position is here. You might be right, I'll have to think about it some more. By the way, the current move in the main page of the analysis tree links to the wrong line. It links to (29...Ke8) 30. Ke1 instead of (29...Kd8) 30. Ke1. | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On January 24 2012 23:31 garbanzo wrote: Thanks. Fixed.By the way, the current move in the main page of the analysis tree links to the wrong line. It links to (29...Ke8) 30. Ke1 instead of (29...Kd8) 30. Ke1. | ||
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garbanzo
United States4046 Posts
On January 24 2012 08:35 qrs wrote: Well, I've added your line to the tree, beginning with the position after your move 31... and ending with the position after your move 33. I agree that this is probably the most important line for us to focus on. As for your most recent line, why doesn't it seem like a good position to be in? Here's how your end-position looks to me: + Show Spoiler + We have a choice between initiating the Bishop exchange or playing g3 and leaving Black to exchange Bishops if he so chooses. In either case, we continue to keep our pawn majority as the board continues to simplify. Now our d-pawn is weak, but so is Black's f-pawn, and I think we can counter his threats to the one by threatening the other. For instance 35. BxB KxB 36. g4 Kd6 37. Rb6+ edit: I added the rest of your line to the tree. Last position is here. Yeah, I think there's no worry in that line. I think that position might actually be great to be in especially if we play + Show Spoiler + g3 | ||
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