Ultra Street Fighter IV - Page 276

On March 10 2013 23:07 pachi wrote:
Most publicized tournaments in fighting games are North American or in Japan so scenes outside of those dont get as much exposure. Most known scenes/players in Europe seem to be France and the UK.
The most famous players from Sweden are probably Skatan (Sakura) who played at Canada Cup 2011, and Ixion for being Dan.

On March 11 2013 06:21 Aylear wrote:
I always get a kick out of tier lists. It's fun watching them develop over time, and seeing characters jump or drop off. I love that SSF4 it's as balanced as it is. By no means perfect, but picking a bottom tier character in AE2012 is like picking a mid tier character in most other games.

On March 11 2013 06:21 Aylear wrote:
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I always get a kick out of tier lists. It's fun watching them develop over time, and seeing characters jump or drop off. I love that SSF4 it's as balanced as it is. By no means perfect, but picking a bottom tier character in AE2012 is like picking a mid tier character in most other games.

Still, tier lists in general, and this one in particular, make me a bit sad. Poor Oni. I love watching so many of the bottom characters, especially Oni, Gouken and Dudley, yet we hardly see them. I wish people had a bit more character loyalty, or at least looked at tier lists more like guidelines than actual rules. Maybe we'd have more Xians running around crapping on charts and being completely awesome.

I'm re-watching Canada Cup right now. The entire event was great for AE, and I cannot wait for the next big tournament.

On March 11 2013 11:28 Noocta wrote:
Tiers List aren't all that meaningful.
I mean, Infiltration beat the crap out of a lot of people with Hakan and look where he's at on this one.

On March 11 2013 11:35 Shiragaku wrote:

But isn't Infiltration the counter pick champion? It is not like he uses a single character for every single matchup

On March 11 2013 11:28 Noocta wrote:
Tiers List aren't all that meaningful.

On March 11 2013 11:28 Noocta wrote:
Tiers List aren't all that meaningful.
I mean, Infiltration beat the crap out of a lot of people with Hakan and look where he's at on this one.

On March 11 2013 15:01 Shiragaku wrote:
What does piss me off is how half of the Japanese players in any tourney seems to be Sagat...
He is a really cool character, but I am sick and tired of tigers.

On March 11 2013 20:26 Aylear wrote:
I find tier lists interesting not because they show how good a character is, but because it shows people's perception of that character. It's fun to watch characters rise and fall. In the Eventhubs tier list from March 2012, Vega was bottom 7. Uh huh.

On March 11 2013 20:31 ain wrote:

Yeah, same with Viper. While Latif was bodying everyone and Wolfkrone had his streak Viper was considered S-Tier by everyone. Then Wolfkrone stops playing, and Latif doesn't practice as hard anymore and suddenly she's supposed to be B?

On March 11 2013 20:26 Aylear wrote:
Don't worry about tier lists when you pick your character. To start - and like Cel.erity said - this generation of fighters is the most balanced of the lot, so picking a "bottom tier" character in AE really is like picking a mid tier character in games that came before it. You can do well with anyone in the cast. Chris Hu had fun with Oni for a time, and there's a European player (a Swede, I think) who uses Dan. The last major was won by a Gen (a character everyone is afraid of but nobody plays).

Also, this list has a good bit of bullshit in it.

Besides, these lists assume equal skill and highest level of play, which is irrelevant for 99% of of us.

On March 10 2013 22:16 WindWolf wrote:

2) How big of a country is Sweden in the Street Figher scene globally?

On March 12 2013 03:05 che wrote:


Sweden has some good players, afaik the best in Sweden is Skataan who's a top Sakura player.
If you want to learn more about the Sweden FGC check out "FightingforSweden"
http://www.youtube.com/user/fightingforsweden/videos?view=0
http://www.twitch.tv/fightingforsweden
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fighting-For-Sweden/

On March 12 2013 01:00 Duka08 wrote:

I agree with your sentiments. As someone who's really bad at this game, I don't look at them so much for expecting to win 30% online in a 3-7 for example, but rather, I think of it as a "matchups to look out for or think harder about". Even at low levels I believe there are still some matchups which will invariably feel more difficult (not always correlated to "better" characters being more difficult, either), even when facing a variety of players/playstyles of the same character. But it's more of an opportunity to think outside the box or find those more intricate secrets and tendencies that can turn a high-level 3-7 into a low-level 7-3.

Also your first point is the most important imo: pick who you like! As mentioned, I do play Oni. There's days where I just feel totally out of options or hit a string of tough matches, depending on my mindset and the opponents, and it's easy to say "oh he's bad". But that's crap, and I rag on myself for thinking that after the heat of the moment dies down. And when I win I get hype. Not because he's "low rated". But because I fucking love him as a character and it's fun and exciting.

On March 12 2013 03:56 Aylear wrote:


And that's why I play Gen: because hitting a sick combo into super into ultra to steal a game is such incredible bullshit that it's actually completely awesome!

But I also... kind of... play Viper. And Cammy.

I know. There is no middle finger big enough.