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How I became a winning poker player in 4 ez steps

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scrapperdog
Profile Joined August 2003
United States779 Posts
December 27 2004 01:27 GMT
#1
This post is not to brag, but to help out all you that are not winning money at poker. If you follow these steps you will become a winner at the low lvls.

1) Ask yourself honestly if you have the qualities needed, and the desire needed to become a winner.

Qualities needed are above average intelligence, patience, and ability to stay calm after a bad beat. Desire is also very important, if you dont want it badly you simply have almost no chance. You need to be willing to go all the way, not half way in your quest to be a winner (just like in brood war). If you dont have all of the above then just dont play poker.

2) Read the books, watch the TV shows, go to poker forums.

I have read about 10 books on how to play poker and plan on reading many more. Poker is very complex. Watching the WSOP on espn and a few episodes of WPT will not get you ready to be a winner. You need to take it seriously or you are just another espn watching doink who is gonna lose their money. If you dont like to read or find poker books boring then give it up right now.

3) Start slow, move up slow.

Play at the play money tables for a week. Play at the 1/2 cent tables until u can beat them on a weekly basis (that means playing at a place that has the micro limits). Once you can do that than move up to 5/10 cents .. and on and on.
If you are one of those "I want it now" types u have no chance, remember what i said about patience. It takes months of experience before you will be a winner. You can read a book on how to drive an 18 wheeler, watch someone driving one on tv, but until u get the proper hours driving the truck you are one mistake away from a screw up. Yes you are going to lose money for 1-4 months. Good players will start to win within a month, it took 2-3 for me. If you are not winning by the end of 4 months you need to ask yourself some questions. Expect to lose 100-300 dollars before you become a winner (I had to buy in 3 times).

4) Play like dan harrington and not gus hansen. If you dont know what this means then you have a lot of work to do before you play for real money.

Poker should be fun for you, but at the same time take it serious. The best poker players in the world play not so much for the money, but they desire to compete and beat other people.

Comments are welcome. This post is for people that are playing and losing, or seriously considering playing already. Dont start up because of it please.

Yes I am one of the Billions that hovz speaks about
pinbaLL
Profile Joined March 2004
Sweden1711 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-01-13 23:30:21
December 27 2004 02:02 GMT
#2
Thank You, sir.

I guess have the desire to become good at Poker. Ive only read one and a half book (had no time to finish the second one), and Im mostly playing freerolls with like 6k players in it, wich is fun but the possibilities to win one is smaaaaall! Won one with 4.5k players in it once tho ~~

Also ive lost some $, but its ok, I accept thats what has to happen. Im only 17 though, and it sucks, not being able to deposit on ur own. Guess ill make a serious try in a year when im 18
- Evergrey - This is a fucking British flag, and these colours dont fucking run! - Bruce Dickinson
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
December 27 2004 02:05 GMT
#3
4) Play like dan harrington and not gus hansen. If you dont know what this means then you have a lot of work to do before you play for real money.


If you think this is true you simply aren't playing against good enough players. You're misinterpreting risky tactical play as erratic stupidity...like so many people do. Gus Hansen is a poker genius, and you only wish that you could play like him.
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Sublime
Profile Joined March 2004
United States79 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-27 02:09:29
December 27 2004 02:08 GMT
#4
I think he's trying to say the best way for begginers to play is to play tight like harrington. Hes not taking anything away from gus hansens play, and thats the best way to play for pretty much anyone.
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
December 27 2004 02:12 GMT
#5
On December 27 2004 11:08 Sublime wrote:
I think he's trying to say the best way for begginers to play is to play tight like harrington. Hes not taking anything away from gus hansens play, and thats the best way to play for pretty much anyone.


True...
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scrapperdog
Profile Joined August 2003
United States779 Posts
December 27 2004 02:27 GMT
#6
On December 27 2004 11:05 ManaBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
4) Play like dan harrington and not gus hansen. If you dont know what this means then you have a lot of work to do before you play for real money.


If you think this is true you simply aren't playing against good enough players. You're misinterpreting risky tactical play as erratic stupidity...like so many people do. Gus Hansen is a poker genius, and you only wish that you could play like him.

Gus is a genius at poker and other games. In fact if i had to choose one person to play for me with my life at stake, it would be gus. That being said i can think of no better way for a losing or starting player to lose more and faster than to play like him. His play is a combination of top 1% natural talent, huge iq, and years of experience. You dont need that to be a winning player, and this guide is written for the ppl losing money here at tl.net, not for experienced and gifted players.
Yes I am one of the Billions that hovz speaks about
Izenra
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada679 Posts
December 27 2004 03:15 GMT
#7
Can someone comment my early result?

Played for 1 week now with real money

playing .05/.1 tables , NL HE 10 $ in max

I made 50 buck with 10 at the beggining. ~25 % flop seen.

What is bad is that im not losing at the beggining :~\
scrapperdog
Profile Joined August 2003
United States779 Posts
December 27 2004 03:20 GMT
#8
On December 27 2004 12:15 Izenra wrote:
Can someone comment my early result?

Played for 1 week now with real money

playing .05/.1 tables , NL HE 10 $ in max

I made 50 buck with 10 at the beggining. ~25 % flop seen.

What is bad is that im not losing at the beggining :~\


90% of starting players do not have the dicipline to see 25% flops. Good start, dont be upset if u bust out tho you still need some experience.
Yes I am one of the Billions that hovz speaks about
Dealer
Profile Joined January 2003
Sweden1368 Posts
December 27 2004 03:49 GMT
#9
No beginner should imitate a pro like Dan Harrington, just play tight and play your cards, don't go out of line and start catching a lot of bluffs etc, solid play will get you your share on the lower limits.
h e l l o e
Alpha
Profile Joined September 2004
France1495 Posts
December 27 2004 04:08 GMT
#10
im going to the Casino Next week, if this list don't work , i'll be mad at somebody
The psi bolts enlighten me.
scrapperdog
Profile Joined August 2003
United States779 Posts
December 27 2004 04:21 GMT
#11
On December 27 2004 12:49 Dealer wrote:
No beginner should imitate a pro like Dan Harrington, just play tight and play your cards, don't go out of line and start catching a lot of bluffs etc, solid play will get you your share on the lower limits.

Dan is a tight and solid player. He hardly ever goes out of line and when he does of course it ends up on television cause it dont happen a lot. When he does go out of line it is for a reason .. the other guy showed weakness, maybe a tell he picked up, he dont do it without a good reason. I would encourage starting players to play tight and solid like dan does, just like i would encourage starting protoss users to watch reps of peter and rek.
Yes I am one of the Billions that hovz speaks about
LumberJack
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3355 Posts
December 27 2004 04:24 GMT
#12
doesnt get any tighter than dan harrington, maybe phil helmuth, too i dunno. Both are really tight, but 'action dan' is nortorious for never playing a hand, but the ones he does play, he wins most.
Man fears the darkness, and so he scrapes away at the edges of it with fire.
Izenra
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada679 Posts
December 27 2004 05:39 GMT
#13
Here is all of what i do for my first week of poker :
-got 10 $ free at 7 sultans.
-played limit for 3 hour .05/.1, realising it was bs.
-switch to NL .05/.1 no limit.
-Since then i played 4 tables at once (it really NOT hard lol, i could get more but im good with 4).
-my 10 buck became 60 now.

Last session : 2 hour
preflop 30 % (a little higher than usual, dunno i got card i guess)
showdown won : 100 %.
These table are usually very loose so i just play as tight as i can, very loose//predictable.
Comment would be great thanx in advance

I got other question : i dont freking know how to bet. Hands i have no clue how to bet :
-AA,KK,QQ,JJ,AK, preflop
-Highest pair very-good/good kicker
remember i play LOW nl. I would like the answer in Bet (ex :1 big bet)
-I usually call my small pair , hoping to get a trip.
-call Axs for flush
-call suited connector over 9 and any two faced cars(akqj)
Comment?

Thanx in advance :D
Yizuo
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1537 Posts
December 27 2004 06:04 GMT
#14
Mhh, I never played Poker in my life (somehow still now the 'rules') but it sounds fun... Can someone recommend a free programm were I can play a bit against the comp? Or maybe a beginner's guide? thx
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
December 27 2004 06:09 GMT
#15
just download the pokerstars or partypoker clients and play with play money
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
scrapperdog
Profile Joined August 2003
United States779 Posts
December 27 2004 06:37 GMT
#16
On December 27 2004 14:39 Izenra wrote:
Here is all of what i do for my first week of poker :
-got 10 $ free at 7 sultans.
-played limit for 3 hour .05/.1, realising it was bs.
-switch to NL .05/.1 no limit.
-Since then i played 4 tables at once (it really NOT hard lol, i could get more but im good with 4).
-my 10 buck became 60 now.

Last session : 2 hour
preflop 30 % (a little higher than usual, dunno i got card i guess)
showdown won : 100 %.
These table are usually very loose so i just play as tight as i can, very loose//predictable.
Comment would be great thanx in advance

I got other question : i dont freking know how to bet. Hands i have no clue how to bet :
-AA,KK,QQ,JJ,AK, preflop
-Highest pair very-good/good kicker
remember i play LOW nl. I would like the answer in Bet (ex :1 big bet)
-I usually call my small pair , hoping to get a trip.
-call Axs for flush
-call suited connector over 9 and any two faced cars(akqj)
Comment?

Thanx in advance :D


Good start. I like how you are playing 5/10 cent and have not gotten greedy and tried to move up.

As far as how to play your hands, that is what the poker books are for

The only other comment I have is that sometimes calling with any 2 face cards is wrong (but not too often). If a very tight player raises before you then it is best to lay jack queen off suit down. Even if the flop comes queen high you might be up against kq or aq and have a good chance to lose a lot of money. If someoene that is decent player raises pre flop look for a reason to fold.
Yes I am one of the Billions that hovz speaks about
zero89
Profile Joined September 2004
United States295 Posts
December 27 2004 06:55 GMT
#17
poker is easy

shotaiti is the real game
shotaiti = big 2
Cause everything is nothing, and emptiness is in everything. Cause reality is really just a fuct up dream...
RockJunkie
Profile Joined December 2002
Mexico171 Posts
December 27 2004 09:36 GMT
#18
On December 27 2004 15:55 zero89 wrote:
poker is easy

shotaiti is the real game
shotaiti = big 2


Easy to learn but very hard to master
Izenra
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada679 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-27 12:14:43
December 27 2004 12:13 GMT
#19
how much should i expect to win(a winning tight player) at a nl table? let's say 2 hour? are the result somehow going toward a point, like i duno 10 big bet. As for for me, i get usually 10 bucks from 4 table 5/10 cent, 2 hours.
just to ask because this is why of the ''Expected wins'' of the limit poker(1 big bet //hour = 10 cent for 5/10 cent table ) that i switch to nl 1 hour after playing for the first time limit
scrapperdog
Profile Joined August 2003
United States779 Posts
December 27 2004 14:44 GMT
#20
On December 27 2004 21:13 Izenra wrote:
how much should i expect to win(a winning tight player) at a nl table? let's say 2 hour? are the result somehow going toward a point, like i duno 10 big bet. As for for me, i get usually 10 bucks from 4 table 5/10 cent, 2 hours.
just to ask because this is why of the ''Expected wins'' of the limit poker(1 big bet //hour = 10 cent for 5/10 cent table ) that i switch to nl 1 hour after playing for the first time limit


If you are a tight winning player just keep track of your sessions and see what limit and game works best for you. This post was really meant for the tl.net ppl that are new or are not winning players yet. All you ppl that are winning consistantly dont need my help. BTW i like limit better than no limit.
Yes I am one of the Billions that hovz speaks about
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