This post is not to brag, but to help out all you that are not winning money at poker. If you follow these steps you will become a winner at the low lvls.
1) Ask yourself honestly if you have the qualities needed, and the desire needed to become a winner.
Qualities needed are above average intelligence, patience, and ability to stay calm after a bad beat. Desire is also very important, if you dont want it badly you simply have almost no chance. You need to be willing to go all the way, not half way in your quest to be a winner (just like in brood war). If you dont have all of the above then just dont play poker.
2) Read the books, watch the TV shows, go to poker forums.
I have read about 10 books on how to play poker and plan on reading many more. Poker is very complex. Watching the WSOP on espn and a few episodes of WPT will not get you ready to be a winner. You need to take it seriously or you are just another espn watching doink who is gonna lose their money. If you dont like to read or find poker books boring then give it up right now.
3) Start slow, move up slow.
Play at the play money tables for a week. Play at the 1/2 cent tables until u can beat them on a weekly basis (that means playing at a place that has the micro limits). Once you can do that than move up to 5/10 cents .. and on and on. If you are one of those "I want it now" types u have no chance, remember what i said about patience. It takes months of experience before you will be a winner. You can read a book on how to drive an 18 wheeler, watch someone driving one on tv, but until u get the proper hours driving the truck you are one mistake away from a screw up. Yes you are going to lose money for 1-4 months. Good players will start to win within a month, it took 2-3 for me. If you are not winning by the end of 4 months you need to ask yourself some questions. Expect to lose 100-300 dollars before you become a winner (I had to buy in 3 times).
4) Play like dan harrington and not gus hansen. If you dont know what this means then you have a lot of work to do before you play for real money.
Poker should be fun for you, but at the same time take it serious. The best poker players in the world play not so much for the money, but they desire to compete and beat other people.
Comments are welcome. This post is for people that are playing and losing, or seriously considering playing already. Dont start up because of it please.
I guess have the desire to become good at Poker. Ive only read one and a half book (had no time to finish the second one), and Im mostly playing freerolls with like 6k players in it, wich is fun but the possibilities to win one is smaaaaall! Won one with 4.5k players in it once tho ~~
Also ive lost some $, but its ok, I accept thats what has to happen. Im only 17 though, and it sucks, not being able to deposit on ur own. Guess ill make a serious try in a year when im 18
4) Play like dan harrington and not gus hansen. If you dont know what this means then you have a lot of work to do before you play for real money.
If you think this is true you simply aren't playing against good enough players. You're misinterpreting risky tactical play as erratic stupidity...like so many people do. Gus Hansen is a poker genius, and you only wish that you could play like him.
I think he's trying to say the best way for begginers to play is to play tight like harrington. Hes not taking anything away from gus hansens play, and thats the best way to play for pretty much anyone.
On December 27 2004 11:08 Sublime wrote: I think he's trying to say the best way for begginers to play is to play tight like harrington. Hes not taking anything away from gus hansens play, and thats the best way to play for pretty much anyone.
4) Play like dan harrington and not gus hansen. If you dont know what this means then you have a lot of work to do before you play for real money.
If you think this is true you simply aren't playing against good enough players. You're misinterpreting risky tactical play as erratic stupidity...like so many people do. Gus Hansen is a poker genius, and you only wish that you could play like him.
Gus is a genius at poker and other games. In fact if i had to choose one person to play for me with my life at stake, it would be gus. That being said i can think of no better way for a losing or starting player to lose more and faster than to play like him. His play is a combination of top 1% natural talent, huge iq, and years of experience. You dont need that to be a winning player, and this guide is written for the ppl losing money here at tl.net, not for experienced and gifted players.
No beginner should imitate a pro like Dan Harrington, just play tight and play your cards, don't go out of line and start catching a lot of bluffs etc, solid play will get you your share on the lower limits.
On December 27 2004 12:49 Dealer wrote: No beginner should imitate a pro like Dan Harrington, just play tight and play your cards, don't go out of line and start catching a lot of bluffs etc, solid play will get you your share on the lower limits.
Dan is a tight and solid player. He hardly ever goes out of line and when he does of course it ends up on television cause it dont happen a lot. When he does go out of line it is for a reason .. the other guy showed weakness, maybe a tell he picked up, he dont do it without a good reason. I would encourage starting players to play tight and solid like dan does, just like i would encourage starting protoss users to watch reps of peter and rek.
doesnt get any tighter than dan harrington, maybe phil helmuth, too i dunno. Both are really tight, but 'action dan' is nortorious for never playing a hand, but the ones he does play, he wins most.
Here is all of what i do for my first week of poker : -got 10 $ free at 7 sultans. -played limit for 3 hour .05/.1, realising it was bs. -switch to NL .05/.1 no limit. -Since then i played 4 tables at once (it really NOT hard lol, i could get more but im good with 4). -my 10 buck became 60 now.
Last session : 2 hour preflop 30 % (a little higher than usual, dunno i got card i guess) showdown won : 100 %. These table are usually very loose so i just play as tight as i can, very loose//predictable. Comment would be great thanx in advance
I got other question : i dont freking know how to bet. Hands i have no clue how to bet : -AA,KK,QQ,JJ,AK, preflop -Highest pair very-good/good kicker remember i play LOW nl. I would like the answer in Bet (ex :1 big bet) -I usually call my small pair , hoping to get a trip. -call Axs for flush -call suited connector over 9 and any two faced cars(akqj) Comment?
Mhh, I never played Poker in my life (somehow still now the 'rules') but it sounds fun... Can someone recommend a free programm were I can play a bit against the comp? Or maybe a beginner's guide? thx
On December 27 2004 14:39 Izenra wrote: Here is all of what i do for my first week of poker : -got 10 $ free at 7 sultans. -played limit for 3 hour .05/.1, realising it was bs. -switch to NL .05/.1 no limit. -Since then i played 4 tables at once (it really NOT hard lol, i could get more but im good with 4). -my 10 buck became 60 now.
Last session : 2 hour preflop 30 % (a little higher than usual, dunno i got card i guess) showdown won : 100 %. These table are usually very loose so i just play as tight as i can, very loose//predictable. Comment would be great thanx in advance
I got other question : i dont freking know how to bet. Hands i have no clue how to bet : -AA,KK,QQ,JJ,AK, preflop -Highest pair very-good/good kicker remember i play LOW nl. I would like the answer in Bet (ex :1 big bet) -I usually call my small pair , hoping to get a trip. -call Axs for flush -call suited connector over 9 and any two faced cars(akqj) Comment?
Thanx in advance :D
Good start. I like how you are playing 5/10 cent and have not gotten greedy and tried to move up.
As far as how to play your hands, that is what the poker books are for
The only other comment I have is that sometimes calling with any 2 face cards is wrong (but not too often). If a very tight player raises before you then it is best to lay jack queen off suit down. Even if the flop comes queen high you might be up against kq or aq and have a good chance to lose a lot of money. If someoene that is decent player raises pre flop look for a reason to fold.
how much should i expect to win(a winning tight player) at a nl table? let's say 2 hour? are the result somehow going toward a point, like i duno 10 big bet. As for for me, i get usually 10 bucks from 4 table 5/10 cent, 2 hours. just to ask because this is why of the ''Expected wins'' of the limit poker(1 big bet //hour = 10 cent for 5/10 cent table ) that i switch to nl 1 hour after playing for the first time limit
On December 27 2004 21:13 Izenra wrote: how much should i expect to win(a winning tight player) at a nl table? let's say 2 hour? are the result somehow going toward a point, like i duno 10 big bet. As for for me, i get usually 10 bucks from 4 table 5/10 cent, 2 hours. just to ask because this is why of the ''Expected wins'' of the limit poker(1 big bet //hour = 10 cent for 5/10 cent table ) that i switch to nl 1 hour after playing for the first time limit
If you are a tight winning player just keep track of your sessions and see what limit and game works best for you. This post was really meant for the tl.net ppl that are new or are not winning players yet. All you ppl that are winning consistantly dont need my help. BTW i like limit better than no limit.