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annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
March 15 2011 18:45 GMT
#81
for everyone who says that they cant use anders on nightmare due to the cooldown on heal, "ur doin it rong."

you need to cast your heal and group heals in panacea and then stance dance into vengeance, spamming martyr. your heal comes back in 4 cooldowns. you can literally use anders as purely a healer, ignoring his other DPS capabilities, by spamming martyr and stance dancing. martyr gives you mana too, and the health lost from it you regain with the group heal.
Lori_ftw
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany286 Posts
March 15 2011 19:01 GMT
#82
BioWare sold their souls to EA! I beg that "Star Wars: The Old Republic" don't fails so much
möp
ChaseR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
March 15 2011 19:03 GMT
#83
On March 16 2011 03:40 BloodNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 03:31 floor exercise wrote:
This is really funny/sad


My feelings on this are "meh". To me it offsets the pointless "0/10" and "1/10" reviews. I just don't put stock in random reviews anymore.
You missed the point (If you even read it)...the top review according to his searches is actually written by an BioWare Employee which is indeed funny/sad...
Life is not Fucking Fair and Society is not Fucking Logical - "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
March 15 2011 20:28 GMT
#84
On March 16 2011 03:45 annul wrote:
for everyone who says that they cant use anders on nightmare due to the cooldown on heal, "ur doin it rong."

you need to cast your heal and group heals in panacea and then stance dance into vengeance, spamming martyr. your heal comes back in 4 cooldowns. you can literally use anders as purely a healer, ignoring his other DPS capabilities, by spamming martyr and stance dancing. martyr gives you mana too, and the health lost from it you regain with the group heal.


wow definetly been doing it wrong....didn't think of this at all lol. Pretty much makes your party unstoppable past lvl 10 on any difficulty :X
CROrens
Profile Joined May 2007
Croatia1005 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 20:39:54
March 15 2011 20:38 GMT
#85
this guy got banned from playing ANY EA games he had bought cuz he said "BioWare sold their soul to the devil" on a forum :D


http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6484816

There is no problem that cannot be solved by the use of high explosives. - Anonymous ......||......Hyuk fan! \o/
shreepy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States121 Posts
March 15 2011 20:51 GMT
#86

It was apparently done due to a bug in EA's ban system and he does have access to his stuff again. It might just be that EA let him have his games back because of all of the outrage though, not sure. I certainly wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.

short write up on it:
link(pcgamer)
Tezzick
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada187 Posts
March 15 2011 20:58 GMT
#87
On March 16 2011 05:38 CROrens wrote:
this guy got banned from playing ANY EA games he had bought cuz he said "BioWare sold their soul to the devil" on a forum :D


http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6484816


If you read that thread, you'd see that it was an error. He wasn't meant to be blocked from playing the games, just from posting.


Anyway, I love this game so far. I preordered the signature edition (free upgrade if preordered before January something), so I got Sebastian. So my party consists of me (2-hand DPS/Tank warrior), Isabella (DPS), Sebastian (DPS archer), and Anders (DPS/Healer). Although my warrior doesn't tank as well as a shield warrior does, Bravery and Reaver skills really boost his DPS when he's tanking.

I was kind of torn between Sebastian and Varric, I like Varric's special skill tree better than Sebastian's, but with the better bows you can buy and find, Sebastian ended up having a DPS just below Isabella's, and much higher than Varric's.

Still haven't beaten Act 2, but I've been doing every single thing I can find so far, and haven't been able to play that much anyway.

I am excited to see how the story unfolds further, with the Arishok (kinda know what's going to happen there) and Flemeth (especially).

And lastly, Morrigan > Isabella/Merril.
"I'm a monster" - Buster
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 22:46:16
March 15 2011 21:17 GMT
#88
On March 16 2011 04:03 ChaseR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 03:40 BloodNinja wrote:
On March 16 2011 03:31 floor exercise wrote:
This is really funny/sad


My feelings on this are "meh". To me it offsets the pointless "0/10" and "1/10" reviews. I just don't put stock in random reviews anymore.
You missed the point (If you even read it)...the top review according to his searches is actually written by an BioWare Employee which is indeed funny/sad...

No, I read it completely nor is it not the first time I have read it. Its also not breaking news as other companies have done, still do, and will continue to do the same for other games, products, whatever.
Its a "random" user review with an agenda (which many of them appear to have). This one was to tow to company line by a Bioware employee. Others take the opposite path and do everything to turn people away from the game.
Maybe I am in a minority of people who ignore random user reviews.

Edit- Now what I considered funny recently-ish was that one of the local sport franchise owners in my area has paid staff members posting on the local fan message boards just to say good things about him.

Edit2-
On March 16 2011 05:58 Tezzick wrote:
I was kind of torn between Sebastian and Varric, I like Varric's special skill tree better than Sebastian's, but with the better bows you can buy and find, Sebastian ended up having a DPS just below Isabella's, and much higher than Varric's.

And lastly, Morrigan > Isabella/Merril.

If you do another playthrough go ahead and switch Varric for Seb. Varric has some of the best dialogue in the game. I doubt you will notice a big DPS difference either.
Alphaes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States651 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 21:32:52
March 15 2011 21:31 GMT
#89
On March 16 2011 05:58 Tezzick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 05:38 CROrens wrote:
this guy got banned from playing ANY EA games he had bought cuz he said "BioWare sold their soul to the devil" on a forum :D


http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6484816


If you read that thread, you'd see that it was an error. He wasn't meant to be blocked from playing the games, just from posting.



He definitely was banned from his game, at least for a time. EA claimed it was an "error" (a rather dubious claim seeing how both the forum staff and EA support previously told him that it was indeed a valid policy), but apparently people are still getting banned and locked out of their games.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/03/15/biowhere-ea-working-on-fixing-game-bans/

What this
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
March 16 2011 00:53 GMT
#90
On March 14 2011 21:37 Aflixion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 20:32 lbmaian wrote:
Doesn't Dragon Age 2 use Securom? Read that somewhere...makes me hesitant to buy it.


Dragon Age 2 does NOT use the SecuROM DRM you're worried about. It uses a simple release date check that was written by the same team as that SecuROM. Here's a post from a BioWare tech expert explaining the difference between the two: http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6194280/29#6490247


Oh, no, it doesn't use SecuROM disc-check, but it definitely uses SecuROM. For EA or Bioware to say otherwise is dishonest.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Aflixion
Profile Joined August 2010
United States191 Posts
March 16 2011 00:59 GMT
#91
On March 16 2011 09:53 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 21:37 Aflixion wrote:
On March 14 2011 20:32 lbmaian wrote:
Doesn't Dragon Age 2 use Securom? Read that somewhere...makes me hesitant to buy it.


Dragon Age 2 does NOT use the SecuROM DRM you're worried about. It uses a simple release date check that was written by the same team as that SecuROM. Here's a post from a BioWare tech expert explaining the difference between the two: http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6194280/29#6490247


Oh, no, it doesn't use SecuROM disc-check, but it definitely uses SecuROM. For EA or Bioware to say otherwise is dishonest.


That's exactly what I said. It doesn't use the SecuROM disc-check, it uses a different product from the SecuROM team. What everyone is worried about was the intrusive SecuROM that we've all had problems with, and THAT product is not part of the DRM for this game. The release date check removes itself after it fulfills its purpose and if there are any straggling files, they may be deleted without affecting your access to the game at all.

Out of curiosity, did you read Fernando Melo's posts? He spent quite a while responding to many player concerns about the DRM.
carraway
Profile Joined March 2011
264 Posts
March 16 2011 01:07 GMT
#92
I thought DA:O was a fairly mediocre game. The strategic, tactical combat so ballyhooed by many people was easy on Nightmare and the tactics system itself had already been done in Final Fantasy XII three years prior. The writing relied heavily on tired fantasy tropes. Strong companion characterization in Alistair and Morrigan was not enough to counterbalance the lack of ambition in the story.

DA2 is a vast improvement in many ways, but unfortunately the lack of ambition carries through. The frame narrative is taut, but cannot completely mask the failures of the writing. What should have been a compelling political battle, rife with intrigue, was instead a cardboard conflict.

That being said, I hope BioWare ignores 90% of what is being said across the vastness of the internet about the game, and folds continued improvements in the vein of DA2 into DA3. I also hope they fire all of their Dragon Age writers and pull in people from the Mass Effect team.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6413491/74#6552937
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 01:12:25
March 16 2011 01:08 GMT
#93
On March 16 2011 09:59 Aflixion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 09:53 Mindcrime wrote:
On March 14 2011 21:37 Aflixion wrote:
On March 14 2011 20:32 lbmaian wrote:
Doesn't Dragon Age 2 use Securom? Read that somewhere...makes me hesitant to buy it.


Dragon Age 2 does NOT use the SecuROM DRM you're worried about. It uses a simple release date check that was written by the same team as that SecuROM. Here's a post from a BioWare tech expert explaining the difference between the two: http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6194280/29#6490247


Oh, no, it doesn't use SecuROM disc-check, but it definitely uses SecuROM. For EA or Bioware to say otherwise is dishonest.


That's exactly what I said. It doesn't use the SecuROM disc-check, it uses a different product from the SecuROM team. What everyone is worried about was the intrusive SecuROM that we've all had problems with, and THAT product is not part of the DRM for this game. The release date check removes itself after it fulfills its purpose and if there are any straggling files, they may be deleted without affecting your access to the game at all.

Out of curiosity, did you read Fernando Melo's posts? He spent quite a while responding to many player concerns about the DRM.


My concern is not with the intrusiveness of these files. I would have had no problem if Bioware and EA stated what exactly DA2's DRM was. But they did not do that. They explicitly said "no SecuROM," and then proceeded to use one of SecuROM's several DRM products and then claim "that's not SecuROM that's, uh, Sony DADC release control, yeah."

Then there were also the claims that it didn't install anything and that it would completely remove itself afterward. As if those two claims even make any sense together. What is there to remove if nothing is installed? What we got, however, were SecuROM registry keys and folders full of SecuROM files left on our machines after the activation.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Aflixion
Profile Joined August 2010
United States191 Posts
March 16 2011 01:23 GMT
#94
On March 16 2011 10:08 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 09:59 Aflixion wrote:
On March 16 2011 09:53 Mindcrime wrote:
On March 14 2011 21:37 Aflixion wrote:
On March 14 2011 20:32 lbmaian wrote:
Doesn't Dragon Age 2 use Securom? Read that somewhere...makes me hesitant to buy it.


Dragon Age 2 does NOT use the SecuROM DRM you're worried about. It uses a simple release date check that was written by the same team as that SecuROM. Here's a post from a BioWare tech expert explaining the difference between the two: http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6194280/29#6490247


Oh, no, it doesn't use SecuROM disc-check, but it definitely uses SecuROM. For EA or Bioware to say otherwise is dishonest.


That's exactly what I said. It doesn't use the SecuROM disc-check, it uses a different product from the SecuROM team. What everyone is worried about was the intrusive SecuROM that we've all had problems with, and THAT product is not part of the DRM for this game. The release date check removes itself after it fulfills its purpose and if there are any straggling files, they may be deleted without affecting your access to the game at all.

Out of curiosity, did you read Fernando Melo's posts? He spent quite a while responding to many player concerns about the DRM.


My concern is not with the intrusiveness of these files. I would have had no problem if Bioware and EA stated what exactly DA2's DRM was. But they did not do that. They explicitly said "no SecuROM," and then proceeded to use one of SecuROM's several DRM products and then claim "that's not SecuROM that's, uh, Sony DADC release control, yeah."

Then there were also the claims that it didn't install anything and that it would completely remove itself afterward. As if those two claims even make any sense together. What is there to remove if nothing is installed? What we got, however, were SecuROM registry keys and folders full of SecuROM files left on our machines after the activation.


I'll give you that. They did kinda screw up by saying "no SecuROM" without explicitly saying "SecuROM disc-check," which is what I interpreted it as.

As for your second point, I personally think they meant nothing permanent would be installed. A program isn't very effective if it can't run at all. And like I pointed out before, you can delete those leftover files safely without impacting your game. Again, Fernando Melo addresses all of these points in that thread on BioWare's forums.
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
March 16 2011 08:18 GMT
#95
Started yesterday and im level 8-9 now. Seems quite easy on hard tbh the first fight where i had to load game 3+ times was against the mature dragon on top of sundermount(?). On 3rd or 4th try i noticed that i can just run a circle with the character that has aggro and the dragon won't get single hit in... so stupid

The game seems ok i guess...

Most of the loot is very dissapointing though as others have mentioned already. Why do you need to get "junk" ?! and getting that 283th amulet from the barrel O_O
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 09:12:25
March 16 2011 09:10 GMT
#96
On March 16 2011 10:07 carraway wrote:
I thought DA:O was a fairly mediocre game. The strategic, tactical combat so ballyhooed by many people was easy on Nightmare and the tactics system itself had already been done in Final Fantasy XII three years prior. The writing relied heavily on tired fantasy tropes. Strong companion characterization in Alistair and Morrigan was not enough to counterbalance the lack of ambition in the story.

DA2 is a vast improvement in many ways, but unfortunately the lack of ambition carries through. The frame narrative is taut, but cannot completely mask the failures of the writing. What should have been a compelling political battle, rife with intrigue, was instead a cardboard conflict.

That being said, I hope BioWare ignores 90% of what is being said across the vastness of the internet about the game, and folds continued improvements in the vein of DA2 into DA3. I also hope they fire all of their Dragon Age writers and pull in people from the Mass Effect team.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6413491/74#6552937



Are you fucking kidding me? In the second paragraph you praise DA2's story, but then you want to fire all the DA writers? I understand if you'd then recommend hiring some pulitzer prize winners or something, but what the fucking hell - you want, of all things, the fools that wrote the drivel that is the storyline of Mass Effect?

A fucking high school kid could write a better story than the crap in Mass Effect 2.

If anything, they need to fire ME2's writers and bring in DA2's writers in.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
March 16 2011 11:39 GMT
#97
On March 16 2011 18:10 orgolove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 10:07 carraway wrote:
I thought DA:O was a fairly mediocre game. The strategic, tactical combat so ballyhooed by many people was easy on Nightmare and the tactics system itself had already been done in Final Fantasy XII three years prior. The writing relied heavily on tired fantasy tropes. Strong companion characterization in Alistair and Morrigan was not enough to counterbalance the lack of ambition in the story.

DA2 is a vast improvement in many ways, but unfortunately the lack of ambition carries through. The frame narrative is taut, but cannot completely mask the failures of the writing. What should have been a compelling political battle, rife with intrigue, was instead a cardboard conflict.

That being said, I hope BioWare ignores 90% of what is being said across the vastness of the internet about the game, and folds continued improvements in the vein of DA2 into DA3. I also hope they fire all of their Dragon Age writers and pull in people from the Mass Effect team.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6413491/74#6552937



Are you fucking kidding me? In the second paragraph you praise DA2's story, but then you want to fire all the DA writers? I understand if you'd then recommend hiring some pulitzer prize winners or something, but what the fucking hell - you want, of all things, the fools that wrote the drivel that is the storyline of Mass Effect?

A fucking high school kid could write a better story than the crap in Mass Effect 2.

If anything, they need to fire ME2's writers and bring in DA2's writers in.


Its not about the story per-se, its how you write the story. As simple and trivial as ME2's main storyline was, it was written and fleshed out well enough to really make it an immersive experience.
Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 12:21:42
March 16 2011 12:20 GMT
#98
After finishing the game my main question is.... how did the manage to work out so many good things and so many god awful bullshit into a single game?

Pros:

- Boss fights (could argue its too much like WoW though)
- Combat effects / animations
- Most of the voice acting. (Varric, fenris specially)
- The intrigue factor until the very end (was hoping for a twist that never came)

Cons:

- Level design ( WTF really... you are gonna use the same cave/mansion for the whole game?)

- Itemization

- Aveline (She has no business being in that game. It makes 0 sense for the city guard captain to be running around with a renegade. Not to mention the way she reacts to some decisions you make. At times being a royal pain in the ass and others letting me kill people without giving a fuck)

- Game flow (Not enough main plot quests to keep me going while randomly doing side jobs. And they were barely interesting. Most of them ended with Evil dude saying stuff and forcing you to fight him)
TreK
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2089 Posts
March 16 2011 13:29 GMT
#99
Agree with doko, also wondering why u get so little exp from killing stuff , and sometimes u get a whole level for some quest? Kinda of annoying
Bergkamp ftw!
chasfrank
Profile Joined March 2010
Gambia59 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 14:18:08
March 16 2011 14:10 GMT
#100
On March 16 2011 03:45 annul wrote:
for everyone who says that they cant use anders on nightmare due to the cooldown on heal, "ur doin it rong."

you need to cast your heal and group heals in panacea and then stance dance into vengeance, spamming martyr. your heal comes back in 4 cooldowns. you can literally use anders as purely a healer, ignoring his other DPS capabilities, by spamming martyr and stance dancing. martyr gives you mana too, and the health lost from it you regain with the group heal.


After tweaking my group I've honestly not had to do anything of that sort and still be perfectly fine in just about every fight.

Boss fights (could argue its too much like WoW though)


That is actually not true. Not only do you get to see a boss fight in WoW more often than every 8 hours, the new(er) ones usually have some mechanic that alters the fight. The only truly good boss fight I've had so far was the rock wraith in the Deep Roads. The rest is largely tank n spank, or if you couldn't beat them that way, run your tank in circles. They really put no effort into their bosses.
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