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Deleted User 101379
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There is a reason why those things are called "weapons"... they are ment to kill others... it's never a good idea to just use a weapon for fun, someone will die eventually (or in this case someone already died, but it won't be long to the next one). If they use safe equipment (as in "safe enough that you don't die because you make a single mistake or have bad luck") i could see that sport being a lot of fun, both for the participants and the audience. | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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Excludos
Norway7990 Posts
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Sm3agol
United States2055 Posts
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Deleted User 101379
4849 Posts
On January 31 2011 22:06 Sm3agol wrote: Believe it or not...the helmets they used were BADASS, they just weighed a ton. The only thing they lacked was good eye protection. Throw some really good goggles underneath those helmets and you're comparatively safe. You people need to remember that this is what people back then did for FUN and SPORT. If it killed every other person that tried it...then it wouldn't have lasted very long. And the romans let gladiators kill each other for fun and sport... Humans are still primitive, they love others engaging in things that could kill them. The more blood and the more danger, the more fun the spectators have... and back in those days those tournaments were political: Win in a tournament with a chance of losing your life, get noticed by the king, gain land/command/the hand of his daughter... There is no reason for risking your life now, so why should you? Just for the adrenaline rush? | ||
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Runsta
United States161 Posts
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Excludos
Norway7990 Posts
What sets this sport aside from the regular base jumping, sharkwrestling or whatever other adrenalin junkie sport you could think of, is that this has the potential to be safe. All you'd need is a regulation set of armor (Which means no homemade stuff), and googles under those visors. | ||
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dinmsab
Malaysia2246 Posts
On January 31 2011 22:24 Excludos wrote: Funfact: Gladiators, did not kill eachother. What would be the point in that? You'd just quickly run out of any potential champions. Sure there where accidents there too.. What sets this sport aside from the regular base jumping, sharkwrestling or whatever other adrenalin junkie sport you could think of, is that this has the potential to be safe. All you'd need is a regulation set of armor (Which means no homemade stuff), and googles under those visors. goggles? Lol, that huge stick at that speed could probably pierce a hole through your head. I doubt goggles would help.  | ||
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Sm3agol
United States2055 Posts
On January 31 2011 22:16 Morfildur wrote: And the romans let gladiators kill each other for fun and sport... Humans are still primitive, they love others engaging in things that could kill them. The more blood and the more danger, the more fun the spectators have... and back in those days those tournaments were political: Win in a tournament with a chance of losing your life, get noticed by the king, gain land/command/the hand of his daughter... There is no reason for risking your life now, so why should you? Just for the adrenaline rush? If Kings did it for fun.....it couldn't be that dangerous. Seriously. I'm not saying that it's as safe as playing chess....but for crying aloud, don't act like its the equivalent to playing Russian roulette with a double barrel shotgun. goggles? Lol, that huge stick at that speed could probably pierce a hole through your head. I doubt goggles would help. And maybe you missed the "giant metal helmet" part. The only thing unprotected is the eyes. And it's not like they aim the lances for the eyes, it's splinters that hit the eyes, and goggles would definitely help out there. | ||
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Noxie
United States2227 Posts
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O-ops
United States4236 Posts
On January 31 2011 22:44 Sm3agol wrote: If Kings did it for fun.....it couldn't be that dangerous. Seriously. I'm not saying that it's as safe as playing chess....but for crying aloud, don't act like its the equivalent to playing Russian roulette with a double barrel shotgun. You conveniently left out the fact that a king did died jousting. Here we have, 2 guys on horses with rather heavy gears charging at each other at a respectable speed. The force of impact is enough to be able to send splinters through your brain, and lances are known to dent or even penetrate steel armor. The impact hurts, and then you have to worry about not falling of the horses the wrong way after that. How much more dangerous could that get? The nobility in medieval Europe did a lot of stupid shit for fun btw. Except for a special few, most can pretty much be described as rednecks. | ||
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O-ops
United States4236 Posts
On January 31 2011 17:20 Kolvacs wrote: I'd enjoy the sport :D. Hows that any different then two people (or more) tackling each other in football? You aren't trying to drive a really big stick through the other guy's chest at high speed and potentially kill him when tackling each other in football. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32037 Posts
im taking my little cousins to MT in a few weeks and i am probably more excited than them | ||
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
EDIT : And I'm more than a little upset how much of this thread is complaining about safety and intelligence quotients. | ||
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Shymon
United States620 Posts
On January 31 2011 21:28 Keniji wrote: I was just going to ask if they have at least some modern day modification like plastic in their visor that protect them from splinters. I guess not. The article with the inquest stated that the guy who died didn't have a proper jousting helmet on at the time, which i can only imagine was a significant factor in how he died. | ||
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
Anyways it looks like they're trying to get the sport to go bigger, hoping to attract the "extreme sports" crowd. I can't say I feel they'll have much of any success with this. One of the founders mentions the rise of MMA and such an says he hopes to attract that sort of audience. Best of luck to them in that regard, but I have my doubts it'll ever catch on. Still, I'd looovee to see this live. At casual glance, it does look just like two 'tards cantering towards each other and swapping sloppy blows. But those horses are going at roughly 25-30 mph when they collide, (so anywhere from 50-60 mph type of collision). That's pretty hardcore. And there are some elements of modern safety. Obviously any modern tempered steel is going to be wayyy stronger than the crude metals used in the medieval period. But I maintain that anyone who's ever ridden a horse could not possibly think this was an easy sport to pull off, lol. | ||
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
On February 01 2011 02:58 Sinensis wrote: I just made plans to go to The Knights of Valour at their next event. That sword fighting video was so impressive. I didn't even know stuff like this happened. EDIT : And I'm more than a little upset how much of this thread is complaining about safety and intelligence quotients. Awesome!! Shit I can't wait until they next come out to the east coast! Which tourney are you going to? If you liked the sword fighting video, you should look into the SCA. If you're like me, and slightly afraid of whacking each other with solid wooden swords, you can try Dagorhir, which is very similar, but with padded weapons. I've been going for years, and it is loads of fun. Absolutely the best workout nerds can get! | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
On February 01 2011 03:12 Haemonculus wrote: Awesome!! Shit I can't wait until they next come out to the east coast! Which tourney are you going to? If you liked the sword fighting video, you should look into the SCA. If you're like me, and slightly afraid of whacking each other with solid wooden swords, you can try Dagorhir, which is very similar, but with padded weapons. I've been going for years, and it is loads of fun. Absolutely the best workout nerds can get! March 6 & 7 Gulf Coast Renaissance Fair Pensacola, FL I'll probably go both days. Maybe I'll see you there? | ||
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cheapfood
United States56 Posts
On January 31 2011 20:52 eu.exodus wrote: jousting? 2 guys riding towards each other on horses, with armour on and wood in hand, aiming it at someones chest with the goal of knocking the other guy on his ass at the risk of poking out an eye? Why do i fail to see the 'badassery' or entertainment value of this? you even typed it out | ||
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