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ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
January 26 2011 06:18 GMT
#801
On January 26 2011 14:36 KaiserW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 11:08 ItsFunToLose wrote:
On January 26 2011 11:03 Warri wrote:
I dont know if youre browsing the official forum, but heres a big map that covers the whole world.
http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=14717#p167288
http://algeralith.info/HavenMap/



awesome, thanks, i just found where I am on that (where's waldo anyone?)

anyone know where liquidia villages are on that map? I'm in the south east quadrant.



EDIT: finally have a palisade wall, fucking 4 hours later.




This map thread is awesome.
Found myself on it after going NNE for 4-5 hours from the new village(with Frosty, midg, potatoe, echo, etc.).


Was a cool feeling.
Was hard as hell though.
Ha

So I guess we're in the SSE SSW area? Maybe close..


using coordinates of [-5, 5] for both X and Y on that world map, I am almost exactly 4, -3
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
Uriel_SVK
Profile Joined April 2010
Slovakia427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-26 08:07:42
January 26 2011 07:59 GMT
#802
Crap ... found a bear west of the village...
Found him with my new char too...
excess1ve
Profile Joined January 2008
United States359 Posts
January 26 2011 08:52 GMT
#803
so what are the state of affairs with the towns? i went solo for a bit, ended up being taken in by some H&H vets, so if your ever around the Stin empire, look for me. I'm also interested in making an alt so if anyone wants to pm me their hearth I'd like to join and help with that town as well.
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
January 26 2011 09:15 GMT
#804
how many active players does each village have?

I'm having a fun time playing just with my girlfriend, and we just got our palisade walls up. but its slow going just the two of us.
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
Talho
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium592 Posts
January 26 2011 12:31 GMT
#805
we have about 7 to 8 active people atm, in the side town near liquida. We can still suport some more, cuz we have lots of food.

/W me if you want the hearth secret
muse5187
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
1125 Posts
January 26 2011 15:37 GMT
#806
On January 26 2011 17:52 excess1ve wrote:
so what are the state of affairs with the towns? i went solo for a bit, ended up being taken in by some H&H vets, so if your ever around the Stin empire, look for me. I'm also interested in making an alt so if anyone wants to pm me their hearth I'd like to join and help with that town as well.


We aren't far from stin at all, suprisEd they didn't kill you.
excess1ve
Profile Joined January 2008
United States359 Posts
January 26 2011 16:07 GMT
#807
yeah they took in a nublet :p
muse5187
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
1125 Posts
January 26 2011 16:13 GMT
#808
On January 27 2011 01:07 excess1ve wrote:
yeah they took in a nublet :p

Lol is there a guy there that runs around sayin THOR!!!!!!!!
chaokel
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia535 Posts
January 26 2011 16:13 GMT
#809
http://algeralith.info/HavenMap/?zoom=8&lat=0.22174&lon=0.25249&layers=B

found myself =)
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
January 26 2011 16:16 GMT
#810
On January 27 2011 01:13 chaokel wrote:
http://algeralith.info/HavenMap/?zoom=8&lat=0.22174&lon=0.25249&layers=B

found myself =)

Was looking today as well and found us. At least my part isn't updated. So it's somewhat safer since it won't attract as much attention.
Disquiet
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia628 Posts
January 26 2011 16:35 GMT
#811
On January 27 2011 01:13 chaokel wrote:
http://algeralith.info/HavenMap/?zoom=8&lat=0.22174&lon=0.25249&layers=B

found myself =)

Wow you guys are pretty mich as far away from Liquidia as you can possibly get.
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 05:37:52
January 27 2011 02:46 GMT
#812
can someone from TastyTreats' village PM me or post where they are on the world map?

http://algeralith.info/HavenMap/

I'm thinking about sailing over if its close enough.

+ Show Spoiler [My Character Stats] +
Learning points collected
8820 (377930 total)
Age
1 weeks, 2 days
------------------------------
Values

Strength 20+29
Agility 13
Intelligence 16
Constitution 12
Perception 11
Charisma 10 +12
Dexterity 16
Psyche 10

Unarmed Combat 30
Melee Combat 15
Marksmanship 25
Exploration 25
Stealth 1
Sewing 10
Smithing 1
Carpentry 40
Cooking 10
Farming 20
Survival 50



Personal Beliefs

Nature 5
Life 0
Civil 0
Night 0
Martial -5
Change 5



Skills

Animal Husbandry
Ancestral Worship
Archery
Baking
Bee Keeping
Boat Building
Brawling
Cartography
Cloth Making
Candle Making
Carpentry
Farming
Fire & Ice
First Aid
Fishing
Foraging
Hearth Magic
Hunting
Leadership
Leather Working
Lumberjacking
Masonry
Militia Training
Mining
Oral Tradition
Plant Lore
Pottery
Road Building
Soldier Training
Wilderness Survival
Swordsmanship
Stone Working
Tales by the Hearth
Primitive Tools
Unarmed Combat
Valor
Warrior Spirit
Wheelmaking
Winemaking
The Will to Power
Yeomanry
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
OoFuzer
Profile Joined July 2008
Chile436 Posts
January 27 2011 12:54 GMT
#813
Hey guy, what is better about Personal Beliefs : Tradition/change?
If I choose tradition, inmediatly my learning ability decrease to 1/3?If I won 12 exp by getting branch, now I get 4 exp?
ShoreT
Profile Joined August 2008
United States489 Posts
January 27 2011 13:06 GMT
#814
Get change.
Derp
OoFuzer
Profile Joined July 2008
Chile436 Posts
January 27 2011 13:08 GMT
#815
any reason?
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 13:39:51
January 27 2011 13:33 GMT
#816
On January 27 2011 22:08 OoFuzer wrote:
any reason?



Do you want to learn skills 360% faster, or 40%as fast as when you first start out?


Changing any belief will set your tradition/change one tick toward change. For this reason, start off by setting your beliefs toward peaceful (20% learning when maxed) and you will also gain one tick toward change(300% when maxed) the 20% receives the 300% modifier as well, resulting in 3.6 times the progress. If you die, you lose most of your skills though. So play carefully.

You also can change your beliefs more frequently with max change. another huge plus.


Edit: The beliefs are a sliding scale, so if you are 1 tick toward peaceful and 1 tick toward change, you will have something like 140% learning ability.


The benefit to tradition is retaining 75% skill points when you die, and also you receive more "numen" when making sacrifices to your ancestors for special prayer power. Basically, always choose peaceful/change when starting, and once you have a ton of stats and are going to start fighting/risk dying, gradually change your change slider toward tradition.


Edit2, the 75% retention is still inaccurate. When you die, you lose half your stats, but higher stats cost more. So you effectively lose 3/4 of your learning points spent on survival if you go from 30 survival to 15 survival (50% learning point retention on death, assuming a neutral slider) at 25% retention, you lose 15/16 of the learning points spent on actual skills.

Can anyone verify that my math isnt off?
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
January 27 2011 13:36 GMT
#817
You will lose more LP when you die, so it's pretty much high risk - high reward.
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 09:20:12
January 27 2011 13:46 GMT
#818
On January 27 2011 22:36 Lucumo wrote:
You will lose more LP when you die, so it's pretty much high risk - high reward.



A lot more.

Skills cost 100 x level

so its 100 + 200 + 300 .....+3900 +4000 to get level 40 of something. Going from level 40 to level 20 means you lost (2100 + 2200 ...3900 + 4000) and only keep (100 + 200 ...+1900 + 2000)

You just lost 3/4 of all learning points spent with "50%" reduction in skills. at 75% loss(full change), you end up with 1/16 of the points you earned upon death.



Hopefully you have some high quality items stashed away to make grinding up the learning points on a new character a lot faster than the first time around.



----

More edits:

Just an idea, but apparently you retain a claim if you inherit from that character. and learning points from claims are fully refunded.

If you were to dump learning points into the size of your claim, they would essentially be risk free investments. okay, more like a 0% interest savings account.




6.25% learning points vs 56.25% learning points on death. 10 times the loss for 3 times the gain.
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
Macgruber
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada18 Posts
January 28 2011 20:33 GMT
#819
Village rolled by guy with sword n board care full logging in
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
January 28 2011 20:39 GMT
#820
On January 29 2011 05:33 Macgruber wrote:
Village rolled by guy with sword n board care full logging in

too late for me I got smashed and my dead body is next to blink's corpse
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