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IveReturned
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Turkey258 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 20:34:27
March 07 2012 20:27 GMT
#8421
THESE ARE MAINLY LIES TOLD TO SELL THE GAME TO THE BF VETERANS



Where is the VOIP?

Works wonders in BF(used to, now we dont have one)

Where is the real Squad System? explain real squad system please

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-3/1471274-any-advantage-being-squad-leader.html
http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-3/1394261-building-ideal-bf3-bf4-leadership-system.html
Most of them (%95) were in BF2-2142

Where is the mod tools?

Mods decide on the games survivability.

realitymod.com

Where is the "large maps"? whats "large"? as said i dont know how it was in previous ones but i like the size of firestorm/caspian etc. far bigger and we just increase the "boring" times or not?

Large battlefield maps with flags that have strategical value instead of forcing TDM on cq large.
http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-3/1444953-lesson-i-map-design-dice-you-can-satisfy-both-demographic-groups-players.html
more coming...

What's with the cluttered UI? whats cluttered about the ui?
Why is the UI made for consoles, on PC?

Basically our UI now is a console port
http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-3/1447912-ideal-customization-squad-menu-photoshop-mock-uo.html

What's with the mini map? yeah whats with it?

Little to no details.
http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-3/1444907-evolution-battlefield-minimap.html?highlight=minimap

Why is this game filled with crutches? what?

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-3/1469703-you-can-put-much-crutches-you-want-dice-but-you-cant-fix-human-stupidity.html
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
March 07 2012 20:39 GMT
#8422
They have said there are no mod tools due to the complexitiy of the Frostbite engine
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
IveReturned
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Turkey258 Posts
March 07 2012 20:43 GMT
#8423
On March 08 2012 05:39 Skullflower wrote:
They have said there are no mod tools due to the complexitiy of the Frostbite engine


Thats because WE are retarded.

watch after 2:00 to the end. and see how tactical this game is

Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
March 07 2012 21:36 GMT
#8424
I like how he has so much trouble listing the tactical aspects of bf3.. haha
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
WakaDoDo
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden1183 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 21:44:39
March 07 2012 21:43 GMT
#8425
i cant post properly :'(
WakaDoDo
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden1183 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 22:04:14
March 07 2012 21:43 GMT
#8426
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 08 2012 06:43 WakaDoDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 05:43 IveReturned wrote:
On March 08 2012 05:39 Skullflower wrote:
They have said there are no mod tools due to the complexitiy of the Frostbite engine


Thats because WE are retarded.

watch after 2:00 to the end. and see how tactical this game is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTdTs7dNgbk


I think you miss the point entirely...

Ultimatly Bf3 isn't a worthy contender as a sequel to such an amazing game as BF2 imo. It did not match my expactations. But do I like the game? Hell yea! It's not omfgbbq-amazing, but it's a good game imo. You totally ignore the new great aspects of the game and point only at the bad ones. Gunplay and CoD-like gamplay has always been a niche in the battlefield series.

It's just like what happens when an artist or band changes direction. Older fans HATE and new fans appear. I'd prefere if the two styles could grow together, but thats unfortunatly too naive. All I can do is give DICE feedback and hope for the best.



EDIT1: See change from SC:BW -> SC2
EDIT2:And we should, if considerd worthy of further discussion, probably take this to PM to avoid a closing of this thread.
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
March 07 2012 23:25 GMT
#8427
On March 08 2012 00:51 Shockk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 23:23 DyEnasTy wrote:
Damn, I need to get the HD for my xbox so I can get the DLC. My friends and I tried playing last night and I kept getting booted from the squad because I dont have any of the DLC.


Can't you just stick to non-B2K maps? While B2K maps are great for the most part, most of the vanilla maps are entertaining too, whether you're a fan of infantry or vehicle combat or both.


Both of my friends have the DLC maps, so it kept booting me if they were put on a map I didnt have.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
March 07 2012 23:45 GMT
#8428
why did this thread go to shit in a day? I came in here expecting dogtags and all i got was a link to 1/2 of the dogtags available and a bunch of activism that feels like it belongs in the general forums
hihihi
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
March 07 2012 23:50 GMT
#8429
On March 08 2012 08:45 askTeivospy wrote:
why did this thread go to shit in a day? I came in here expecting dogtags and all i got was a link to 1/2 of the dogtags available and a bunch of activism that feels like it belongs in the general forums

Why would this thread be about dogtags?
Its a thread about battlefield 3.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 23:54:05
March 07 2012 23:52 GMT
#8430
On March 08 2012 08:50 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 08:45 askTeivospy wrote:
why did this thread go to shit in a day? I came in here expecting dogtags and all i got was a link to 1/2 of the dogtags available and a bunch of activism that feels like it belongs in the general forums

Why would this thread be about dogtags?
Its a thread about battlefield 3.


look back a few pages o_O?


On March 07 2012 12:56 Phelix wrote:
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93R dogtag looks cool imo! I'll have to make that my go to pistol
hihihi
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 23:57:20
March 07 2012 23:54 GMT
#8431
On March 08 2012 08:45 askTeivospy wrote:
why did this thread go to shit in a day? I came in here expecting dogtags and all i got was a link to 1/2 of the dogtags available and a bunch of activism that feels like it belongs in the general forums


The thread went to shit because it turns out the DLC is a piece of shit. Does that answer your question?



"As its name will imply, Close Quarters is designed to replicate the tight-nit corridor multiplayer gametype like that of the recent Call of Duty games. Except with Frostbite 2 because that makes everything better, right? Oh, and get ready for this one: no vehicles allowed in Close Quarters. How will these types of maps hold up? We'll have to wait until we get some hands-on time to weigh in on that topic."

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/battlefield-3/1220185p1.html


FUCK, I am boycotting this DLC and will probably quit playing BF3 permanently T_______T
"En taro adun, Executor."
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
March 08 2012 00:03 GMT
#8432
On March 08 2012 08:54 Chriscras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 08:45 askTeivospy wrote:
why did this thread go to shit in a day? I came in here expecting dogtags and all i got was a link to 1/2 of the dogtags available and a bunch of activism that feels like it belongs in the general forums


The thread went to shit because it turns out the DLC is a piece of shit. Does that answer your question?



"As its name will imply, Close Quarters is designed to replicate the tight-nit corridor multiplayer gametype like that of the recent Call of Duty games. Except with Frostbite 2 because that makes everything better, right? Oh, and get ready for this one: no vehicles allowed in Close Quarters. How will these types of maps hold up? We'll have to wait until we get some hands-on time to weigh in on that topic."

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/battlefield-3/1220185p1.html


FUCK, I am boycotting this DLC and will probably quit playing BF3 permanently T_______T


Do you play BF3 only because you hate CoD?
hihihi
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
March 08 2012 00:09 GMT
#8433
Good. Boycott the DLC and do quit. Less people like you playing the game.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 00:28:54
March 08 2012 00:21 GMT
#8434
100% agree with this, just quit the game. CoD fanboys are annoying but I don't like these anti-CoD fanboys that play BF3 only because it isn't CoD. Seriously, stop insulting the game you supposedly play because its annoying for people who actually *like* the game for what it is and not what it isn't

My opinion on DLC
BF series infantry has always been garbage comparatively speaking to other games. To act like its boycott time when DICE wants to work on infantry fighting over vehicle fighting is hilariously stupid because DICE is trying to improve the weakest part of their game. Keeping infantry a sideshow affair in BF3 is your guys idea of a complete game?

FYI:
If you don't want to play infantry, play on a vehicle based map that BF3 is filled with
If you want to play infantry based map, play bazaar or metro? maybe karkand

BF as a game is about choices and variety. New DLC gives you more choices and more variety, including the choice not to buy it. I personally wont be buying it because I don't do much infantry to warrant buying it nor do I care about some guy having access to a weapon I don't since my weapon is still capable of killing him e Z. That said the original game is still there for me to enjoy, so why would i ever boycott the game idk O_O
hihihi
altered
Profile Joined March 2008
Switzerland646 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 01:13:00
March 08 2012 01:09 GMT
#8435
On March 08 2012 01:21 WakaDoDo wrote:
Battlefield 3 - Raw Close Quarters Gameplay



Funny, first thing i thought when i saw this is: looks like arkaden from mw3.
Im a bit disappointed with the fact that the close quarters dlc wil be the first one id rather see the vehicle one come first (im actually excited for the big map) but its ok i can wait.

Also i can understand the frustration of BF veterans but DICE dont have much choice i think. Im pretty shure that a big part of the community wants it this way. I mean metro is the most played map in BF3 followed by bazaar and seine, just look how many metro only servers there are. Squadleader only spawn and autoregen can be turned on and off in the server options but i cant find a single server where autoregen is off and SQleader spawn only is on.
That tells me people want to play small, shallow meatgrinder maps and DICE has to deliver that if they want to please the major part of their playerbase. Unfortunately thats how industry works and how the players are these days and Blizzard (like ivereturned mentioned) isnt a single bit different. Compare BW maps to SC2 maps, the complexity of those two games or the fact that Blizzard claims to make SC2 for esports but doesnt implement LAN, releases the game in episodes, makes (stupid) patches too soon and they take away or nerf interesting units/strategys into oblivion. (Seriously no carriers, lurkers, reavers = not a starcraft game to me as a longtime bw lover). Although i have to give credit to Blizz that they let us make our own maps atleast.
The only thing that is a really bad (even retarded) and not by economic factors explainable decision from DICE is that they didnt implement VOIP in a game that suposedly encourages teamplay.

Ballance issues in BF3 are actualy rather small. There is a wide range of guns that is used already. No matter how much whine threads there are in the forums its just not true that everyone runs around with a USAS or FAMAS. In fact, if you play maps like Kharg/Caspian/Firestorm you see those guns rather rarely. And yes tanks are strong but thats how the game is played it would be stupid if a engineer who fights a tank would win 50% of the time. Imballanced would be if the RU tanks were stronger than the US tanks. The power of tanks also gives opportunity for strategical deepness in mapdesign. One of the things i like so much about Caspian is that there are two flags with tank spawns (A and E) that makes those two flags a bit more important than the rest and leads to interesting situations where for example one team has AE and the other team has BCD.
Does Flash dream of electric Romeo?
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
March 08 2012 01:17 GMT
#8436
Actually, aside from my rants about the M16/M4 being too powerful (and not promoting gun variety) , the RU chopper is often called the bathtub for a reason, as its flying capabilities are inferior compared to the US Chopper. I have no idea about jets, though I would assume the F-35 is crap because of the hover/BF2 bias.

Differences in the tanks are slight but significant. The RU tank has a wider turning radius, but to compensate, the turret can dire directly behind its target. The US tank turret is angled slightly upwards, so the turret has problems firing targets at close range.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
March 08 2012 10:06 GMT
#8437
Is fair to assume that most people who play BF3 come from a BF2 background? Or BF:BC1/2?

If not we may just be victims of a changing demographic.

FADC
Pangolin
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1035 Posts
March 08 2012 10:16 GMT
#8438
I don't understand all the people complaining about the next expansion being infantry only. DICE announced 3 expansions, the second one is vehicle based and the third we know nothing about. It's not like DICE is saying Battlefield 3 is going to be infantry only from here on out, you just have to wait a little longer for Vehicle based maps to come.
It's easier not to.
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
March 08 2012 10:54 GMT
#8439
On March 08 2012 19:16 Pangolin wrote:
I don't understand all the people complaining about the next expansion being infantry only. DICE announced 3 expansions, the second one is vehicle based and the third we know nothing about. It's not like DICE is saying Battlefield 3 is going to be infantry only from here on out, you just have to wait a little longer for Vehicle based maps to come.


For most people, the point isn't that they have to wait for their large vehicle maps. The state the game was released in, the features that were cut and the Close Quarters DLC shows that EA is after the money of the CoD crowd. While BF3 has sold well, MW3 has sold much better, and EA wants a share of that market. They won't even think twice about transforming this into Battlefield: Modern Warfare if it means their sales go up. And while that's a legitimate decision for a business, it's a slap in the face for all those players who were promised a "spiritual successor to BF2".
RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 11:10:49
March 08 2012 11:05 GMT
#8440
Those of you that are active make sure to join our new platoon, my name in game is Mathew_1942 for those that don't know and I play quite a bit, only 3 of us got on last night but we had a blast. The last game of the night was hilarious and Tennet you missed out! WakaDoDo was driving one of the IFV's and spotted a sniper like directly in front and asked what we should do about him and I walked up while he was even looking at me and burned him with my repair torch. haha edit-Oh and I also learned last night that 2 TL guys=no enemy choppers.
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