Battlefield 3 - Page 418

On March 06 2012 05:09 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
havent used any other bolt action rifle since i unlocked the m98b.

and imho just do it the hard way, go and snipe. it will take time to learn proper sniping anyways so taking shortcuts doesnt help much.

On March 06 2012 05:10 Roggay wrote:

The L96 is better at medium range for an aggressive recon playstyle (the perfect rifle for that actually) because of the larger ammo capacity and better reload time (I like how the rifle feels too at small to medium ranges), and the M98B is the best sniper rifle for long range sniping, because of the small bullet drop (and previously higher dmg, but I think it got patched).

On March 06 2012 05:13 IveReturned wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWiLs4yVf0s

This video revolves around one thing - whether the Battlefield franchise is heading towards its death. The background video is a walkthrough of the UI from Blacklight: Retribution.Made by phyrefli2. Please watch the full video before comment. He has some good points.

On March 06 2012 07:00 Brett wrote:

He keeps making the same point "It's not cod. They took out the team play" without ever actually explicitly stating what particular facets of the game he says lead him to this conclusion. This was pretty much a waste of time to listen to as I don't know the basis for his criticism...

The Dark Lord of Mordor bids you greetings, and has ordered me here to inform you of Mordor's position on Battlefield 3. Our position is that BF3 has failed to be a true successor in the following ways, and we advocate that DICE, since they have several different series going at once, alternate between the style of play the BF3 brought, which is vastly different from Battlefield, and a true BF successor game. In other words, we know many people like BF3, but there are plenty of us that want a true BF successor. We believe DICE can satisfy both groups, though NOT with the same game. Trying to do it in the same game is not the way. The main issues weighing on the mind of Mordor are these:

1. Time to kill and Time between kills(or time between firefights in general)
BF3 has brought gameplay that is too fast paced and emphasizes the wrong things. Note: This does not mean anyone is suggesting super slow gameplay either. BF was always about middle ground and now is not.
2. Lack of teamwork tools and game factors that discourage teamplay
Pretty self explanatory, but the most egregious examples include lack of in-game VOIP and a non-functional commo rose. It doesn't stop there.
3. The general tendency towards lock-on weapons and press-button countermeasures, instead of skill based solutions
This one is obvious.
4. Casualizations in general
5. Poor map design
Maps too small, flags packed...there's pages and pages to say but not yet.
6. Art design and direction
Examples include blinding sun, the blue hued tribute to Eiffel 65, and more.
7. Vehicle Physics and Vehicle Customizations
8. Unlocks and Points
The game relies on unlocks and stats to create fun rather than gameplay.

Pages and pages of comments could be said on these issues, but this is an icebreaker from Mordor, intended to get the ball rolling. Remember, as I said above, Mordor is not seeking the end of BF3 style games in the BF series, but to make sure that true BF successors are alternated with DICE's anti-CoD products.

Also, in anticipation of "but you guys must want carbon copies of BF2", that is a false rumor. We would start with BF2 as a base, that's true, but there would be many changes,such that the game would be much improved, but it would not become BF3, either. For example, while Mordor is agreed that time to kill in BF3 is too low, we do not intend that it be raised by having BF2's random deviation. There are other ways, and the ultimate goal is a middle ground betweem BF2 and BF3, with the ultimate aim of having larger maps with tactical and strategic options, instead of meatgrinds, and gameplay that complements this.

On March 06 2012 10:23 DyEnasTy wrote:
Which assault rifle do you guys prefer?

Ive been using the AEK-971 with a reflex scope, fore grip, and a heavy barrel and been pretty happy with it. Fully auto sucks if you get in a tense close range battle with the heavy barrel climb. But its nice because I feel like that gun isnt the best at accuracy long range.

The M16A4 is the other one I use a lot, but I dont like that it doesnt have full auto.

On March 06 2012 10:52 Karliath wrote:
I'm assuming not many people from TL play this game consistently anymore. Is there some way the remaining people here can efficiently 'friend' each other and play together online?

On March 06 2012 12:13 DyEnasTy wrote:


Yeah I felt that the M16 lineup pack less punch than the AEK, ive had a hard time using silencers because the M16 is weak enough as it is, and that just makes it weaker.

I dont like really long range engagements. Im a more mid/mid long range (as far as what i feel most comfortable with). Um I play BF3 on XBL, does that change anything from any of my previous posts?

On March 06 2012 13:08 Tennet wrote:

M16 and AEK do the same damage, M16's spread pattern is better and easier to control than the AEK. The AEK only has a higher rate of fire than the M16 making it easier to win close combat fights. The silencer doesn't hurt damage significantly enough to not use it. Right now there is almost no reason not to use foregrip/silencer.

http://symthic.com/?s=bf3 for all the BF3 stats you could ask for.

On March 06 2012 09:40 askTeivospy wrote:
How is BF3 between ArmA and CoD?

On March 06 2012 15:00 Mithhaike wrote:


Tennet has it right. M16A3 has very good stats in all departments. Fastest Reload speed is underrated, but it wins you fights. Easy & constant spread pattern makes the gun easily controlled. The recoil is also pretty much non-existent for a Assault Rifle.

There's a reason why its voted the best Assault Rifle in the game. Other guns may beat it in certain departments, but they all come with considerable drawbacks may in recoil etc. M16A3 is the overall powerful weapon in all situation.

On March 06 2012 10:52 Karliath wrote:
I'm assuming not many people from TL play this game consistently anymore. Is there some way the remaining people here can efficiently 'friend' each other and play together online?

On March 06 2012 18:45 WakaDoDo wrote:

We should make another platoon

I'll add you mathew_1942!