EPTEDIT: also, why isn't this in the HoN topic?
Heroes of Newerth 2.0 aims at Bnet 2.0 & LoL - Page 2
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
EDIT: also, why isn't this in the HoN topic? | ||
Zelniq
United States7166 Posts
it definitely is not "aiming at bnet 2.0" | ||
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Duka08
3391 Posts
On December 03 2010 09:31 Zelniq wrote: hon's server/online system/interface is like 10x better than bnet 2.0, this is widely accepted it definitely is not "aiming at bnet 2.0" This is certainly true. I do get the impression though that they might be branching out and perhaps trying to tap some of the other audiences however, with map editors and customization and such (well, universal custimization, mods already made local customization insanely flexible). Awesome decision imo, as long as they leave the basics and normal mode stuff untouched, which they seem to be pretty keen upon. Excited for 2.0 | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On December 03 2010 09:23 Frolossus wrote: a 3v3 map and an improved shop? haven't they learned from LoL that you cant balance a 3v3 and a 5v5 map at the same time? Exactly what I was thinking... different team sizes are impossible to balance, it just doesn't work. | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
There are some nice features like team matchmaking that S2 shoulda released a long time ago, but other stuff is wtf. | ||
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Xife
222 Posts
On December 03 2010 09:23 ShadowDrgn wrote: Yeah, Maliken would always shut down the server whenever his team was losing in Savage 2. He's the head of the company too, not a GM. I guess that is why he has not been fired yet  | ||
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yoplate
United States332 Posts
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rebdomine
6040 Posts
The learning curve is incredibly steep and people jump all over your throat for every small mistake you do. I'd much rather play sc2, where if I screw up, it's just me who loses. The whole solo dynamic makes it less discouraging to keep trying to get better. And what I hate is when you know that the game is an inevitable loss and you can't just "gg" out and leave because you'll be branded a quitter. I know HoN has the whole concede thing but people just don't want to sometimes, it becomes incredibly annoying and tedious to waste away minutes playing a game that I know I've already lost. In sc2 at least, when you figure you have no hope of coming back, you can "gg" out and move on. No being forced to labor through 30+ mins because your teammates don't want to concede and your opponents want to max out levels and items before crushing you. | ||
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Meta
United States6225 Posts
This 2.0 stuff is generally pretty sweet. 100% experience on denies is an absolutely horrible decision though. Why even deny? Bad move S2, catering to casuals. I'm still looking forward to it though, HoN is such a sweet way to relax between laddering on sc2. | ||
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Durak
Canada3684 Posts
On December 03 2010 10:33 Meta wrote:This 2.0 stuff is generally pretty sweet. 100% experience on denies is an absolutely horrible decision though. Why even deny? Bad move S2, catering to casuals. I'm still looking forward to it though, HoN is such a sweet way to relax between laddering on sc2. That's for casual mode. That is NOT in regular play. | ||
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Farkinator
United States283 Posts
On December 03 2010 09:31 Zelniq wrote: hon's server/online system/interface is like 10x better than bnet 2.0, this is widely accepted it definitely is not "aiming at bnet 2.0" Everything's better about HoN's online system EXCEPT for its matchmaking. It literally takes 20 minutes to find a matchmade game. Hope they can improve that wait time. | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On December 03 2010 10:49 Farkinator wrote: Everything's better about HoN's online system EXCEPT for its matchmaking. It literally takes 20 minutes to find a matchmade game. Hope they can improve that wait time. directly related to how many people use it as in, nobody uses it, so long wait times. not really a fault of s2, although i guess they can always offer extra psr or some shit for using that instead of custom games edit: oh wait, they still didn't implement team and partial team matchmaking did they? yeah, that's it. | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10346 Posts
Last time I played the community was horrible, even worse than the DotA community. After reading about Maliken here... no wonder. BM staff, BM community. ugh on the other hand i have not met one ragequitter, leaver, or BM/elitist in LoL yet. Not as fun as DotA but i play it sometimes with my more casual friends because the community is so much nicer than HoN. Hopefully DotA 2 will be like DotA but with LoL's community  | ||
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Durak
Canada3684 Posts
On December 03 2010 11:17 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Wow, so HoN will officially be less than 1 year old and still called 2.0? Or is this more just signifying ... significant changes, and not like Starcraft to Starcraft 2? Some significant changes. Nothing too major to gameplay. Not like BW to SC2. On December 03 2010 11:17 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Last time I played the community was horrible, even worse than the DotA community. After reading about Maliken here... no wonder. BM staff, BM community. Doubt it's worse than the dota community. Probably the same. On December 03 2010 11:17 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: on the other hand i have not met one ragequitter, leaver, or BM/elitist in LoL yet. Not as fun as DotA but i play it sometimes with my more casual friends because the community is so much nicer than HoN. Hopefully DotA 2 will be like DotA but with LoL's community LoL's community didn't seem any better to me. The only thing is, there's no ingame voice you don't have someone berate you. Also, if you play at high resolutions, it's easy to miss the text. | ||
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Silversurfer
United States44 Posts
On December 03 2010 11:17 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Wow, so HoN will officially be less than 1 year old and still called 2.0? Or is this more just signifying ... significant changes, and not like Starcraft to Starcraft 2? Last Time I played the community was horrible, even worse than the DotA community. After reading about Maliken here... no wonder. BM staff, BM community. ugh ON the other hand i have not met one ragequitter, leaver, or BM/elitist in LoL yet. Not as fun as DotA but i play it sometimes with my more casual friends because the community is so much nicer than HoN. Hopefully DotA 2 will be like DotA but with LoL's community You haven't met anyone who has a BM problem on Lol? Fuck I've been playing the game for 2 days and I'm already disgusted with it, people FLIP if you make the tiniest mistake. I played MMO's for years, sick of that crap, nor do I want to spend months learning the intracacies of yet another game. Too many hobbies as it is. Someone also made a good point about being able to leave when you want in games like SC2. Hell, I have almost as much fun watching SC2 replays. I think I've talked myself Into deleting both games from my hard drive. Another 6-700 points and I can join the few...the proud...the 2k diamonds. lol | ||
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Shade692003
Canada702 Posts
On December 03 2010 11:04 Senx wrote: I guess S2 games are getting desperate, they realize their product doesn't really fill its own niche as LoL and Dota does, its simply a remake of dota that very few will care for when the real deal: dota 2 comes out. ...You do know "Dota2" is simply a remake of Dota, right? | ||
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Minzy
Australia387 Posts
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TsoBadGuy
United States221 Posts
There is nothing wrong with a fun game that doesn't really take that long to learn. Hon could be a very very fun game. However, when such a crappy attitude becomes common place, I would rather just avoid it altogether. Mark my words, in casual mode, people will still talk down to you. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 03 2010 11:31 Silversurfer wrote: You haven't met anyone who has a BM problem on Lol? Fuck I've been playing the game for 2 days and I'm already disgusted with it, people FLIP if you make the tiniest mistake. I played MMO's for years, sick of that crap, nor do I want to spend months learning the intracacies of yet another game. Too many hobbies as it is. Someone also made a good point about being able to leave when you want in games like SC2. Early on you need a lot of BM players in LoL, after you get to the higher levels and better elos, there's pretty much no total idiots at all and even though there's some bmers, it's incredibly mild. On December 03 2010 13:46 Shade692003 wrote: Exactly, why would anyone care about an inferior remake?...You do know "Dota2" is simply a remake of Dota, right? | ||
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