EPTOn November 03 2012 04:37 Jetaap wrote:
I watched this video:
and i must say it looks really really cool!
I watched this video:
and i must say it looks really really cool!
nice one
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FFGenerations
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Warpath
Canada1242 Posts
On November 05 2012 22:37 BrTarolg wrote: are there head/bodyshots in this game? Just checking whether i need to aim "up" as alienns or licking their feet is fine Just 1 hitbox, although your damage varies depending on how far away the target is from the center of your screen for biting. | ||
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Pfhor
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Horo
United States351 Posts
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
The original was tenuously balanced on having good fades and focus but just making fades garbage and requiring like 8 bites to kill an armor 3 marine is such a ridiculous swing in the opposite direction. There's just so many little things that confuse the hell out of me, like why marines get sprint and skulks can leap like a quarter the distance they could in NS1. It makes me wonder what terrible NS1 players must be giving playtesting advice. In all I think they've done an okay job but it's very hard for me to see it as anything but a worse version of NS with some not particularly fleshed out gameplay mechanics like cysts and power nodes. Cysts especially, why do they cost res and slow down taking nodes so fast, and die so easy, compared to power nodes? They should at least convey some sort of advantage to the aliens, like hive sight with a certain radius, movement speed like creep, anything. It just seems like not a single idea for the alien team has been given half the thought of marines. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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tylervoss4
182 Posts
If you do not have i5-2500k or anything equivalent, I don't recommend trying it out. I have i3-2100 and GTX 560Ti, and I Run bf3 medium settings with fluid 80 fps. This game 40fps and its choppy. | ||
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Frunkis
United States146 Posts
http://www.twitch.tv/naturalselection2/b/338117751 Apparently they're going to continue to improve the game for a long time, and a new feature patch will be out soon. I'm looking forward to some of the mods people are going to be able to make with this game. | ||
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KaiserJohan
Sweden1808 Posts
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KillerSOS
United States4207 Posts
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Aylear
Norway3988 Posts
On November 06 2012 04:29 floor exercise wrote: Playing this is like a timewarp to NS 1.04 when aliens had fuck all and couldn't even end games. I don't think there's a single part of alien that isn't a massive regression. Every unit is a weaker version of what it was, including the onos which they are now completely reliant on, and has never been a fun unit. Meanwhile marines are pretty significantly improved in this. The original was tenuously balanced on having good fades and focus but just making fades garbage and requiring like 8 bites to kill an armor 3 marine is such a ridiculous swing in the opposite direction. There's just so many little things that confuse the hell out of me, like why marines get sprint and skulks can leap like a quarter the distance they could in NS1. It makes me wonder what terrible NS1 players must be giving playtesting advice. In all I think they've done an okay job but it's very hard for me to see it as anything but a worse version of NS with some not particularly fleshed out gameplay mechanics like cysts and power nodes. Cysts especially, why do they cost res and slow down taking nodes so fast, and die so easy, compared to power nodes? They should at least convey some sort of advantage to the aliens, like hive sight with a certain radius, movement speed like creep, anything. It just seems like not a single idea for the alien team has been given half the thought of marines. Wait, really? I think aliens win most of the games I play. I can only rebut with anecdotes, so I'll keep it short: I play a pretty good Skulk and I think they do okay in combat, Fades still just eat 1-2 people no problem, and while I agree the Onos has never been a particularly fun unit to play, there's always people on your team willing to field them. They also just don't die. In my experience, the team that wins is the team that plays well on the field, takes resource nodes, and prevents the other team from doing the same -- and that's just as often the aliens as it is the marines. If you're talking balance in terms of competitive play, then I can point to Arc and say that they seem to win using alien no matter who they're playing against, mostly because they actually know how to play alien. I guess I'm just not seeing your argument right now. Maybe once things even out a bit and people start learning NS2 better we can get a good indication of balance, but for right now and as far as I know, Aliens actually do have the highest win percentage. By about 1%. They did a pretty good job on NS2 as far as I can tell. | ||
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ChiknAdobo
United States208 Posts
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Shivaz
Canada1783 Posts
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carraway
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gostunv
Japan1178 Posts
If aliens can keep 2-3 res nodes up while harassing the marines at 2-3, they can save up enough res to get an onos egg way before marines can get jetpacks or exos. Without that the aliens can proceed to choke marines of res nodes around the map and slowly gain advantage till its GG. There also is the patent Zerg rush where pretty much the whole team just bum rushes the command chair at the very beginning and if all the marines are out putting up res nodes and such its GG as well. So no the aliens are not underpowered compared to the marines. At least thats the meta right now. | ||
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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
On November 06 2012 11:02 ChiknAdobo wrote: Infestation has some advantage for gorges, they can belly slide and hydras grow faster, but I think thats it. I think adding a speed advantage for all alien units and/or vision would be good. Who cares if its the same as Starcraft II. I think being like starcraft is an advantage. Does celerity not apply to all classes? | ||
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Simberto
Germany11803 Posts
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gTank
Austria2606 Posts
Actually, I think gorges are lots of fun, similar to the Engineer in TF2 but they are so difficult to play in an actual battle :/ | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On November 07 2012 01:33 gTank wrote: Gorges can belly slide? :D Actually, I think gorges are lots of fun, similar to the Engineer in TF2 but they are so difficult to play in an actual battle :/ Yeah gorges can be tough, you really have to use all of their abilities for them to be good. remember that you can block doorways with clots and that when you place hydras on the inside of a doorway, they can shoot marines on the other side while still having partial cover. you also of course have your heal spray which is very useful for pushing with smart players because they will simply dive in and out of combat while you heal constantly, which creates a huge amount of pressure. You will also get bile bomb at some point which absolutely WRECKS marine armor, and marine structure, and exosuits. And ya, you can slide on your belly with shift for much faster movement at the cost of maneuverability :p | ||
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gTank
Austria2606 Posts
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