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Bio
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada185 Posts
November 12 2010 17:29 GMT
#641
If i buy a hard copy at ebgames/gamestop will i still play through steam? Or will i not get steam/ the multiplayer?
"Oh no, he has run out of..... base!"
AyJay
Profile Joined April 2010
1515 Posts
November 12 2010 17:37 GMT
#642
On November 12 2010 23:02 shwaffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 22:35 AyJay wrote:
On November 12 2010 21:13 rainei wrote:
On November 12 2010 19:23 Danze wrote:
Forgive my ignorance, but is this the 7th installment of the game?

How do they manage to come up with new content that keeps their fans coming back for more?

I was under the impression that the game is heavily recycled.


Instead of what the poster above me said, pretend CoD is BW, but they keep on coming up with a new campaign, and reskinning/renaming certain units. And then throw in some UMS, and you got a brand new game.

Thats funny. BW was basically throw in some missions, few units and you get an expansion for Sc1, wasn't it? And people loved it.

Except that they only made 1 x-pack. WoW would be a good comparison though, because its overrated and has a million x-packs like CoD.

And people don't have complaints about that, because what they deliver with x-packs is reasonable.

And just look at WoW from a companies perspective: I got 12 Million subscribers and they all want new content, so why not make another expansion?
keeblur
Profile Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
November 12 2010 17:38 GMT
#643
On November 13 2010 02:29 Bio wrote:
If i buy a hard copy at ebgames/gamestop will i still play through steam? Or will i not get steam/ the multiplayer?


It'll ask you to install steam, and you'll activate through that.
Isn't it ironic and selfish to say that God made man in his image, when God was made in man's image?
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
November 12 2010 17:44 GMT
#644
Hey guys, Ive been enjoying the game for the last few days (got to lvl 25) but there is still some controls I'm not comfortable with. It seems to me that you have to press alot of buttons fast but not alot of them are easily accessible. Here what I'd like to know from some ppl who are pro.

1. The leans (by default E and Q) - Are they really useful? Action is so fast and the lean is so small, Do ppl use them and do you keep the default key?

2. The run - jump - prone technique. I've seen alot of good ppl do it. It seems very good but again, the controls seems hard. I run with alt then jump with space and then you have to hold ctrl to stay proned ? This one seems hard to execute especially when you encounter someone on a corner, but again it seems pretty effective. n1 have tips on this one?

3. I use E for Lethals. ( Again, I don't lean), What do you use?

4. I use X to knife (cause it's close to my Run (alt)) But I also find this ineffective.

5. Switch to pistol is 1 by default or mouse wheel, I find it kinda slow, do some ppl use Q like in CS:S?

I would like if anyone can post their key setup and give advice about technique to master, I'm new to the COD franchise but I still managed to have good result online, I just want to get better fast. And for those who wonder I don't have a 3rd button on mouse (razer salmosa) and I own a Filco keyboard.

Thanks !
Brood War is forever
keeblur
Profile Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 17:52:10
November 12 2010 17:51 GMT
#645
On November 13 2010 02:44 ScDeluX wrote:
Hey guys, Ive been enjoying the game for the last few days (got to lvl 25) but there is still some controls I'm not comfortable with. It seems to me that you have to press alot of buttons fast but not alot of them are easily accessible. Here what I'd like to know from some ppl who are pro.

1. The leans (by default E and Q) - Are they really useful? Action is so fast and the lean is so small, Do ppl use them and do you keep the default key?

2. The run - jump - prone technique. I've seen alot of good ppl do it. It seems very good but again, the controls seems hard. I run with alt then jump with space and then you have to hold ctrl to stay proned ? This one seems hard to execute especially when you encounter someone on a corner, but again it seems pretty effective. n1 have tips on this one?

3. I use E for Lethals. ( Again, I don't lean), What do you use?

4. I use X to knife (cause it's close to my Run (alt)) But I also find this ineffective.

5. Switch to pistol is 1 by default or mouse wheel, I find it kinda slow, do some ppl use Q like in CS:S?

I would like if anyone can post their key setup and give advice about technique to master, I'm new to the COD franchise but I still managed to have good result online, I just want to get better fast. And for those who wonder I don't have a 3rd button on mouse (razer salmosa) and I own a Filco keyboard.

Thanks !


1. I have yet to use leans at all.

2. I barely use it, seen some people use it to jump on a flag or behind a bombsite to plant a bomb, but never really effective. Funny when someone does it right in front of you and you just pop them.

3. Lethals are Ctrl for me, with Shift being run, so I can use my pinky for both.

4. Middle mouse button.

5. Thumb mouse button.

Keep in mind though, I don't even use WASD control scheme, so my setup might be different. Either way I think you should utilize your mouse buttons more.
Isn't it ironic and selfish to say that God made man in his image, when God was made in man's image?
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
November 12 2010 17:51 GMT
#646
On November 13 2010 02:44 ScDeluX wrote:
Hey guys, Ive been enjoying the game for the last few days (got to lvl 25) but there is still some controls I'm not comfortable with. It seems to me that you have to press alot of buttons fast but not alot of them are easily accessible. Here what I'd like to know from some ppl who are pro.

1. The leans (by default E and Q) - Are they really useful? Action is so fast and the lean is so small, Do ppl use them and do you keep the default key?

2. The run - jump - prone technique. I've seen alot of good ppl do it. It seems very good but again, the controls seems hard. I run with alt then jump with space and then you have to hold ctrl to stay proned ? This one seems hard to execute especially when you encounter someone on a corner, but again it seems pretty effective. n1 have tips on this one?

3. I use E for Lethals. ( Again, I don't lean), What do you use?

4. I use X to knife (cause it's close to my Run (alt)) But I also find this ineffective.

5. Switch to pistol is 1 by default or mouse wheel, I find it kinda slow, do some ppl use Q like in CS:S?

I would like if anyone can post their key setup and give advice about technique to master, I'm new to the COD franchise but I still managed to have good result online, I just want to get better fast. And for those who wonder I don't have a 3rd button on mouse (razer salmosa) and I own a Filco keyboard.

Thanks !


I find lean super strong. I usually play on a hardcore server with 14-18 people and just running around will get you killed pretty fast. Leaning out of a corner can make it easier to see if anyone is coming without getting your head shot off. As far as control goes.. i just use the default. When I played cod4 i was pretty annoyed with the control scheme but i got used to it and its pretty comfortable for me now. Besides, you're on an SC site, how is 1, 4, etc hard to reach? Original sc was so much harder in terms of key placement.
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
November 12 2010 18:02 GMT
#647
On November 13 2010 02:51 ZeaL. wrote:, how is 1, 4, etc hard to reach? Original sc was so much harder in terms of key placement.


By "hard to reach" I meant that if you press 1 you have to remove your finger from W which can be deadly but if you use Q, it's just faster and you remove your finger from A which is better IMO. But again, if you use the leans, it doesn't work. That is why I'd like to know other good player config.
Brood War is forever
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
November 12 2010 18:16 GMT
#648
On November 13 2010 03:02 ScDeluX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2010 02:51 ZeaL. wrote:, how is 1, 4, etc hard to reach? Original sc was so much harder in terms of key placement.


By "hard to reach" I meant that if you press 1 you have to remove your finger from W which can be deadly but if you use Q, it's just faster and you remove your finger from A which is better IMO. But again, if you use the leans, it doesn't work. That is why I'd like to know other good player config.



Hmm, i use my ring finger to hit 1 and 2 and my index for 3-6. I guess all the wow arena forced me to use the number keys.
ProjectVirtue
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada360 Posts
November 12 2010 18:31 GMT
#649
i have E set to melee, V just felt awkward.
left 4 on tacticals
switched lethals to the side button on my mouse, mouse 4.
set crouch to hold
set prone to toggle
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9593 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 18:45:02
November 12 2010 18:40 GMT
#650
My usual setup is:
Shift = run/hold breath
Ctrl = crouch
Z = prone
Q/E = lean
F= knife
G = lethal
V = use/pick up
R = reload
space = jump/get up
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3772
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic434 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 18:43:01
November 12 2010 18:42 GMT
#651
I haven't played the Black Ops yet, but the control setup i was using for Modern Warfare (CoD4, not CoD6), were Space to jump, hold Ctrl for sprint, hold Shift to crouch, and press C to toggle prone (and the default V for knife).
This way you can just stop holding the Shift, and sprint somewhere, or whatever you want to do easily, and you don't have to hold the hotkey to prone. Also you can get up from prone by pressing Shift, and then you can either continue to hold it if you need to take cover, or just press it once to stand up. Don't know if they have that much toggle/hold options in Black Ops though.
If the lean is at least the same it was in CoD4, you can use it to lean towards the wall in order to hide better, or just to be more covered behind the small objects, or if the enemy is above, and such. It's useless for looking behind the corners, but you can use it to be smaller target if you are camping at some choke and expect them to come from specific direction.
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
November 12 2010 18:55 GMT
#652
My setup:
Shift = run/hold breath
Ctrl = crouch
x = prone
Q = switch weapons
E = knife
F= use
mouse thumb 1 = granade
mouse thumb 2= tactical granades
R = reload
space = jump/get up

what i couldn't find: how do you perform this dolphin dive thing? a combination of run an crouch toggle or what?
Issor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States870 Posts
November 12 2010 18:57 GMT
#653
It's going prone while you're sprinting.
Bio
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada185 Posts
November 12 2010 19:50 GMT
#654
Joined up on steam, get an error message getting into the chat? Saying no program recognizes it?
"Oh no, he has run out of..... base!"
Grebliv
Profile Joined May 2006
Iceland800 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 20:10:07
November 12 2010 20:09 GMT
#655
the dive thing is just proning on the run pretty silly :S, had a somewhat funny occurrance where my opponent ran past me and dove straight out the window when he saw me :D

lean is pretty useful in those mid range cover/corner fights to get the best angle and such, pretty as in very useful really.
ESV Mapmaking!
keeblur
Profile Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
November 12 2010 20:11 GMT
#656
On November 13 2010 03:55 DoXa wrote:
what i couldn't find: how do you perform this dolphin dive thing? a combination of run an crouch toggle or what?


Sprint, then press prone.
Isn't it ironic and selfish to say that God made man in his image, when God was made in man's image?
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 20:21:07
November 12 2010 20:20 GMT
#657
Lean is fun to abuse people who have no idea how to use Lean. Or that it even exists.

Learn it, love it, live it.
Slipspace
Profile Joined May 2010
United States381 Posts
November 12 2010 20:31 GMT
#658
I'm really enjoying this game. I guess I was lucky because I haven't experienced any lag problems or glitches (that I've noticed anyway). I played through the campaign the day it came out and have been playing online ever since and it's very fun.
xti.aden
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany65 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 23:52:12
November 12 2010 23:51 GMT
#659
Vortok
Profile Joined December 2009
United States830 Posts
November 13 2010 02:30 GMT
#660
For anyone deadset on using snipers, try slapping an Acog on it. Removes that initial random placement on scope in and lowers sway by a lot making it a lot smoother to use. There aren't really many super huge maps/sight lines that you need the real scope for so less zoom isn't that big of a deal (and you get peripheral vision while scoped). Dunno about any of the other guns, but the L96's acog is like the Susat from MW2 that was on the L86.

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