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ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2297 Posts
November 09 2010 17:16 GMT
#381
Whats the point streaming the single player? (its ruinning it for the rest of us) play Multiplayer!
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
Diude
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada124 Posts
November 09 2010 17:23 GMT
#382
I've been playing CoD4, WaW and MW2 on PC. CoD4 was amazing, WaW was good, and MW2 was a disaster (but I kept going back to it like a stupid bitch going back to the abusive boyfriend.. lol).

I also own a PS3 to play other casual games, and I think it does a really good job at it. I used to be a PC elitist and used to bitch about how the PC platform is getting ditched and dumped by developers, that is until I got myself a PS3. I don't regret one bit.

I'm still sad about PC market's decline in FPS games, but if you guys are a real fan of CoD, I think it's worth spending $100 for an arcade xbox just for that game. You can see it as an investment that will allow you to play all those good console exclusives. IT definitely worth it when you have friends that play it too. Tons of fun.
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AyJay
Profile Joined April 2010
1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-09 17:36:16
November 09 2010 17:34 GMT
#383
On November 10 2010 02:23 Diude wrote:
I've been playing CoD4, WaW and MW2 on PC. CoD4 was amazing, WaW was good, and MW2 was a disaster (but I kept going back to it like a stupid bitch going back to the abusive boyfriend.. lol).

I also own a PS3 to play other casual games, and I think it does a really good job at it. I used to be a PC elitist and used to bitch about how the PC platform is getting ditched and dumped by developers, that is until I got myself a PS3. I don't regret one bit.

I'm still sad about PC market's decline in FPS games, but if you guys are a real fan of CoD, I think it's worth spending $100 for an arcade xbox just for that game. You can see it as an investment that will allow you to play all those good console exclusives. IT definitely worth it when you have friends that play it too. Tons of fun.

I'm not a huge FPS gamer, especially when I prefer hitting more than 3 buttons to win, so me getting a console? Nahhh
Diude
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada124 Posts
November 09 2010 17:39 GMT
#384
Yeah, I'd expect that from a RTS forum
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okuraku
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States210 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-09 17:42:03
November 09 2010 17:41 GMT
#385
On November 10 2010 02:23 Diude wrote:
I've been playing CoD4, WaW and MW2 on PC. CoD4 was amazing, WaW was good, and MW2 was a disaster (but I kept going back to it like a stupid bitch going back to the abusive boyfriend.. lol).

I also own a PS3 to play other casual games, and I think it does a really good job at it. I used to be a PC elitist and used to bitch about how the PC platform is getting ditched and dumped by developers, that is until I got myself a PS3. I don't regret one bit.

I'm still sad about PC market's decline in FPS games, but if you guys are a real fan of CoD, I think it's worth spending $100 for an arcade xbox just for that game. You can see it as an investment that will allow you to play all those good console exclusives. IT definitely worth it when you have friends that play it too. Tons of fun.


I'm in a similar boat, I played tons of PC fps growing up (CS/Q3/Tribes) and couldn't really stand console fps. I also stopped playing CoD after one of the very first ones (can't remember which). I did end up trying MW2 on PS3 though and I must say it was the first console fps I got a similar level of enjoyment out of as I did from CS for example. It's of course not nearly as fast but it doesn't feel as sluggish, probably because of how quickly you can run & the smart autoaim.

That being said, this time around I wanted the "full" experience so I picked up Black Ops on PC. I like that it's steam integrated and I'm getting tired of BFBC2 on PC.

See you guys online, I'm in the steam group as okuRaku

BTW, anyone have a good comprehensive list of console commands / config settings available? They seem to have carried over mostly from Q3 but wasn't sure..

Specifically, I'd like to try turning off toggle on sprint if possible..
http://twitch.tv/okuraku | Member of Team Legacy: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=148872
Erucious
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway393 Posts
November 09 2010 17:58 GMT
#386
my friends have been saying that the engine is screwed and it runs almost 100% off of CPU and GPU barely matters. when pc idle and when playing on ultra for hours the GPU temps didnt change (or changed so slightly it barely mattered). weird stuff... Going to check it out myself in 20mins or so when the DL is finished.
I'm Norwegian/Dutch. Just the awesome parts of them though :D
AAtwelve
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
57 Posts
November 09 2010 18:12 GMT
#387
SO.
360 version: XBox live fees + no dedicated servers
PS3 version: no dedicated servers
PC version: dedicated servers but... engine is f***ed up

So what do PC FPS gamers look for now?
Medal of Honor was pretty bland, MW2's host system + aimbots make it unplayable...
Future's made of virtual insanity...
CoFran
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada342 Posts
November 09 2010 18:23 GMT
#388
On November 10 2010 03:12 AAtwelve wrote:
So what do PC FPS gamers look for now?


Brink.
dahornnn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom395 Posts
November 09 2010 18:31 GMT
#389
Holy Check is the pc version of the game a complete disaster at launch, great job , again, by treyarch....... people with PCS worth 3k are only getting 50 fps and spikes to 5fps or so, brilliantly done treyarch..
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-09 18:39:35
November 09 2010 18:39 GMT
#390


I see that as a sort of a problem...

Quickscoping overnerf means you can't really use sniper rifles anymore. I don't even want to buy this game anymore.
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
November 09 2010 18:42 GMT
#391
I stopped playing for a second to write this.

Single player (on pc) is incredibly fun, by far one of the best fps campaigns I've ever played. Gameplay is smooth, everything runs fine so far. Haven't tried multiplayer yet though. It's really a lot of fun.
KTY
Diude
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada124 Posts
November 09 2010 18:48 GMT
#392
On November 10 2010 03:39 deth2munkies wrote:
Quickscoping overnerf means you can't really use sniper rifles anymore. I don't even want to buy this game anymore.


So, snipers are now forced to play like snipers?
I think it's a good change although I've always been impressed by people who were really good about quick scoping.

Might ruin the fun for some, but I think it's heading to the right direction.
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metaphoR
Profile Joined May 2010
United States199 Posts
November 09 2010 18:49 GMT
#393
On November 10 2010 03:39 deth2munkies wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4Oj9pIvIwI

I see that as a sort of a problem...

Quickscoping overnerf means you can't really use sniper rifles anymore. I don't even want to buy this game anymore.


it looks like the drag shot like in cs 1.6 awp. there will be quick scoping and it will require skill, its just a little different from past COD games. i dont really see the problem here
GnaR
Profile Joined June 2010
United States73 Posts
November 09 2010 18:52 GMT
#394
On November 10 2010 03:39 deth2munkies wrote:
I see that as a sort of a problem...

Quickscoping overnerf means you can't really use sniper rifles anymore. I don't even want to buy this game anymore.


Wow. Thats really disappointing. I have multiple friends on my FB that went to the midnight release that are already trying to sell their copies, and now this.
Kletus
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada580 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-09 18:56:17
November 09 2010 18:55 GMT
#395
The singleplayer is fine and really fun. I also tried playing multiplayer with some friends+bots to check out all this "lag" talk and I get 0 lag. The worst I get is a spike every 2minutes or so, still completely playable and pretty fun.

edit: no quickscoping is what originally made me interested in getting this game.
Your resistance only serves to make my carapace harder.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
November 09 2010 18:56 GMT
#396
On November 10 2010 03:48 Diude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2010 03:39 deth2munkies wrote:
Quickscoping overnerf means you can't really use sniper rifles anymore. I don't even want to buy this game anymore.


So, snipers are now forced to play like snipers?
I think it's a good change although I've always been impressed by people who were really good about quick scoping.

Might ruin the fun for some, but I think it's heading to the right direction.

I covered this dumb ass argument over at The Escapist, here's the highlights:

1) COD maps do not allow for conventional sniping.

2) Staying hardscoped for that long is always a liability, no matter what range you're at.

3) There were much more concerning imbalances (like killstreaks especially) that were overlooked in favor of nerfing the relatively minor quickscoping issue.

4) The only quickscoping that was actually a problem was traditional quickscoping where the hardscope never even came up fully before the shot was fired. In the video, he's scoping for .5-1.5 seconds before the shot, so it's not even a conventional quickscope, but a fast shot.
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
November 09 2010 19:00 GMT
#397
lol yeah, i guess since guys are all runnin around everywhere trying to hardscope around is kinda meh since its cod mw style or w.e
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
coko
Profile Joined November 2002
United Kingdom570 Posts
November 09 2010 19:05 GMT
#398
On November 10 2010 03:56 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2010 03:48 Diude wrote:
On November 10 2010 03:39 deth2munkies wrote:
Quickscoping overnerf means you can't really use sniper rifles anymore. I don't even want to buy this game anymore.


So, snipers are now forced to play like snipers?
I think it's a good change although I've always been impressed by people who were really good about quick scoping.

Might ruin the fun for some, but I think it's heading to the right direction.

I covered this dumb ass argument over at The Escapist, here's the highlights:

1) COD maps do not allow for conventional sniping.

2) Staying hardscoped for that long is always a liability, no matter what range you're at.

3) There were much more concerning imbalances (like killstreaks especially) that were overlooked in favor of nerfing the relatively minor quickscoping issue.

4) The only quickscoping that was actually a problem was traditional quickscoping where the hardscope never even came up fully before the shot was fired. In the video, he's scoping for .5-1.5 seconds before the shot, so it's not even a conventional quickscope, but a fast shot.


1) Then, you can change the maps to suit sniping?

2) Agreed it isn't very nice, but it is more accurate.

3) True.

4) Agreed.

But, now it is different, they don't want it. Why is this a reason not to play? Because you can't quickscope any more? Because it removes a significant difficulty? Why not see what else comes out of the meta-game in the future? Or play a game with only quick scope...
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
November 09 2010 19:28 GMT
#399
Well that was fun in SP glitchy but ok :D. I was able to play a little bit of multiplayer I gonna say that RC car should be kill streak 5 not 3 cause if you don't shot it fast enough it will destroy you! or destroys a group
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
Diude
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada124 Posts
November 09 2010 19:29 GMT
#400
On November 10 2010 03:56 deth2munkies wrote:
I covered this dumb ass argument over at The Escapist, here's the highlights:

1) COD maps do not allow for conventional sniping.

2) Staying hardscoped for that long is always a liability, no matter what range you're at.

3) There were much more concerning imbalances (like killstreaks especially) that were overlooked in favor of nerfing the relatively minor quickscoping issue.

4) The only quickscoping that was actually a problem was traditional quickscoping where the hardscope never even came up fully before the shot was fired. In the video, he's scoping for .5-1.5 seconds before the shot, so it's not even a conventional quickscope, but a fast shot.


There has always been bigger open maps that was more suited for sniping than others. Just because there's a sniper rifle, doesn't mean you need to use it every single map.

There's barebone mode if you think killstreaks are broken (and definition of "broken" is often relative each individuals' experience). I can't say anything because I haven't played it yet, but dogs were a bitch and a half to deal with in WaW.

About the time needed to stay in scope for an accurate shot, I understand your point. I rarely used AWP in CS because I hated the time it would take to unscope/quick tap qq (and generally lacking the skills for it). Still, people mastered that weapon adapting the disadvantage (no scoping, wrist snapping) and got the weapon banned in many servers.


My point is, this is a new game in the franchise (read Black Ops, not Modern Warfare 2:Episode 2) by a different developer. They thought this change was appropriate, and we can't do much about it. If you think this will ruin your fun, so be it, you make the call on how to spend your money.

But again, this is the internet. My opinion is retarded to people who disagree.
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