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annedeman
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-02 11:15:03
January 02 2015 11:12 GMT
#11721
On January 02 2015 20:08 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 20:00 Risen wrote:
On January 02 2015 19:49 SilverSkyLark wrote:
quick question

you can reassign spell targets as they resolve in the stack, yes?

Def no :/

I mean when the stack has a lot spells in it.

still no, unless you have spells like redirect, divert.
you choose targets when you put a spell on the stack, and you wil not be able to change it, when a spell has no legal targets left when it resolves it fizzles and the spell is "countered" for most intends an purposes(except that it does not care about can't be countered clauses)
RAIN!!!, MMA!!,Innovation!!,Parting!!
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
January 02 2015 11:20 GMT
#11722
On January 02 2015 20:12 annedeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 20:08 SilverSkyLark wrote:
On January 02 2015 20:00 Risen wrote:
On January 02 2015 19:49 SilverSkyLark wrote:
quick question

you can reassign spell targets as they resolve in the stack, yes?

Def no :/

I mean when the stack has a lot spells in it.

still no, unless you have spells like redirect, divert.
you choose targets when you put a spell on the stack, and you wil not be able to change it, when a spell has no legal targets left when it resolves it fizzles and the spell is "countered"


ooohh. I get it, I might have misread an article I read about priority and the stack.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
January 02 2015 12:10 GMT
#11723
On January 02 2015 20:20 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 20:12 annedeman wrote:
On January 02 2015 20:08 SilverSkyLark wrote:
On January 02 2015 20:00 Risen wrote:
On January 02 2015 19:49 SilverSkyLark wrote:
quick question

you can reassign spell targets as they resolve in the stack, yes?

Def no :/

I mean when the stack has a lot spells in it.

still no, unless you have spells like redirect, divert.
you choose targets when you put a spell on the stack, and you wil not be able to change it, when a spell has no legal targets left when it resolves it fizzles and the spell is "countered"


ooohh. I get it, I might have misread an article I read about priority and the stack.

To add to what the others have written, targetting occurs when you cast a spell (i.e. before it is placed on the stack). Once you've finished casting the spell the targets are "locked in", so to speak.

From the Comprehensive Rules:

114. Targets
114.1
.Some spells and abilities require their controller to choose one or more targets for them. The targets are object(s),player(s), and/or zone(s) the spell or ability will affect. These targets are declared as part of the process of putting the spell or ability on the stack. The targets can't be changed except by another spell or ability that explicitly says it can do so.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-02 15:10:29
January 02 2015 15:04 GMT
#11724
On January 02 2015 20:08 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 20:00 Risen wrote:
On January 02 2015 19:49 SilverSkyLark wrote:
quick question

you can reassign spell targets as they resolve in the stack, yes?

Def no :/

I mean when the stack has a lot spells in it.


Still no, targets are chosen on cast. Spells like Cabal Therapy are different in that they target the opponent, and you choose the card for discard. So choose does not equal target. Then cards like Memorcide doesn't choose a card until resolution so your opponent does not know what card you plan on hitting with it (only really relevant in fringe situations).

Edit:

Priority has nothing to do with the stack directly, it's a player thing that basically boils down to which player gets to play/do things first in a given situation. So say when you get into your main phase on your turn, you, the player, has priority and the opposing non-turn player does not get to play something before you unless you pass priority which can be done in a number of ways.

Just to clarify for new players...This is a common problem for players who play fast/on autopilot. The most common priority interaction you see in standard right now is with Courser of Kruphix (and planeswalkers). Once your Courser of Kruphix is on the field on your turn, the opponent doesn't get to kill it before everyone sees the top card of your library (this one is fairly obvious), nor does the opponent gets to kill it before you play a land either off the top of the library or from your hand.
Get it by your hands...
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
January 02 2015 17:10 GMT
#11725
I like this card: [image loading]

He's not the flashiest card in the set, but he looks like a good man. A 1 drop that beats for 2 is already passable in a standard aggressive deck and on top of that he's a warrior and if you draw him later in the game, he essentially has haste and dodges sorcery speed removal. That guy's going right into BW warriors.
super gg
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
January 03 2015 10:54 GMT
#11726
I'm loving the full art promos for Game Day. The Shadowspear looks pretty cool and this Supplant Form just looks beautiful too,

[image loading]
@Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
January 03 2015 10:58 GMT
#11727
When is game day usually? My LGS only recently got DCI sanctioned (and afaik in the process of switching distributor)
EZ4ENCE
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4568 Posts
January 03 2015 12:23 GMT
#11728
1 month after the pre-release if I remembered correctly.
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mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
January 03 2015 14:05 GMT
#11729
14-15 February for the game day.

The spoilers have been pretty crazy. White getting half the cake is hilarious since it was already the most played color by a pretty wide margin.
But what's more interesting is that the format finally gets 2-drops worth playing other than Seeker, and that could shake things up (most decks curve started at 3 those days...).
The legend of Darien lives on
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
January 03 2015 19:36 GMT
#11730
White got the worst siege and the worst khan, but the best of all the rest. :D Even for limited, Lightform seems real good for an uncommon, Soul Summons in a Morph set also seems great.
super gg
GoSuNamhciR
Profile Joined May 2010
125 Posts
January 05 2015 05:33 GMT
#11731
White definitely is getting the best in terms of constructed. But limited is a very different story so far barring luck and hitting a monastery mentor in limited for white. Even though only 70/185 spoiled so far, black looks very solid for limited.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
January 05 2015 06:41 GMT
#11732
Man, GP's are really something. Lots of people from all over the country fly in to compete. The atmosphere is just great.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
January 05 2015 08:25 GMT
#11733
On January 05 2015 15:41 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Man, GP's are really something. Lots of people from all over the country fly in to compete. The atmosphere is just great.

I can imagine that. I don't have the time to travel to events but it would be nice to try that..
EZ4ENCE
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
January 06 2015 18:29 GMT
#11734
This should totally be canon
http://sketchydoodles.tumblr.com/post/107320372375/from-the-genius-of-dougbeyermtg-springs-this
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
January 06 2015 18:35 GMT
#11735
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/arcana/fate-reforged-clash-pack-2015-01-06

Mmmm, I'll enjoy this pack, especially as someone playing Sidisi EDH
EZ4ENCE
Lampshade_
Profile Joined January 2015
United States9 Posts
January 07 2015 08:32 GMT
#11736
On January 07 2015 03:35 WindWolf wrote:
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/arcana/fate-reforged-clash-pack-2015-01-06

Mmmm, I'll enjoy this pack, especially as someone playing Sidisi EDH


I thought I was the only person crazy enough to play Sidisi EDH.... can I grab a decklist from you? I'll be uploading mine soon haha
Is the drain finally swirling, or are we swirling the drain?
botchedit
Profile Joined January 2015
74 Posts
January 07 2015 08:36 GMT
#11737
That new 2R legendary Warrior spoiler.

We Mardu Warrior aggro now.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
January 07 2015 08:37 GMT
#11738
On January 07 2015 17:32 Lampshade_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 03:35 WindWolf wrote:
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/arcana/fate-reforged-clash-pack-2015-01-06

Mmmm, I'll enjoy this pack, especially as someone playing Sidisi EDH


I thought I was the only person crazy enough to play Sidisi EDH.... can I grab a decklist from you? I'll be uploading mine soon haha

Will post it later, but a warning. It is a casual deck. Not really meant for serious play. At all. Mostly build it because I like the B/U/G color combo, and late game things can get pretty bananas
EZ4ENCE
Lampshade_
Profile Joined January 2015
United States9 Posts
January 07 2015 08:39 GMT
#11739
On January 07 2015 17:37 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 17:32 Lampshade_ wrote:
On January 07 2015 03:35 WindWolf wrote:
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/arcana/fate-reforged-clash-pack-2015-01-06

Mmmm, I'll enjoy this pack, especially as someone playing Sidisi EDH


I thought I was the only person crazy enough to play Sidisi EDH.... can I grab a decklist from you? I'll be uploading mine soon haha

Will post it later, but a warning. It is a casual deck. Not really meant for serious play. At all. Mostly build it because I like the B/U/G color combo, and late game things can get pretty bananas


I picked it because imo it seemed like the best commander for reanimation by far. It has black and green, with blue for support. It's a turn 4 auto enabler with free tokens as a little bonus. My deck is basically fatties / counters / control / reanimation. What's yours like?
Is the drain finally swirling, or are we swirling the drain?
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
January 07 2015 08:42 GMT
#11740
On January 07 2015 17:39 Lampshade_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 17:37 WindWolf wrote:
On January 07 2015 17:32 Lampshade_ wrote:
On January 07 2015 03:35 WindWolf wrote:
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/arcana/fate-reforged-clash-pack-2015-01-06

Mmmm, I'll enjoy this pack, especially as someone playing Sidisi EDH


I thought I was the only person crazy enough to play Sidisi EDH.... can I grab a decklist from you? I'll be uploading mine soon haha

Will post it later, but a warning. It is a casual deck. Not really meant for serious play. At all. Mostly build it because I like the B/U/G color combo, and late game things can get pretty bananas


I picked it because imo it seemed like the best commander for reanimation by far. It has black and green, with blue for support. It's a turn 4 auto enabler with free tokens as a little bonus. My deck is basically fatties / counters / control / reanimation. What's yours like?

Ehh... I don't really have a strategy like that (It's only my first Commander deck, and I mostly play Limited events anyway these day). But if I had to explain it in some way, survive early-mid game, go nuts late game
EZ4ENCE
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