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An end to the shaolin monk vs MMA fighter debate

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royzizzle
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (North)51 Posts
September 14 2010 03:52 GMT
#1
I noticed with the rise of the UFC many american martial artists are completely discrediting the skill of shaolin monks to "flashy wushu moves".

The following video conclusively ends the debate over who will win in an all out fight:



As you can see. This video exposes a critical weakness in the MMA fighter; one that the shaolin monk does not even flinch at.

I think that our opinions will agree

thank you
Ordained
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
September 14 2010 04:02 GMT
#2
My god ... That just goes to show how impressive their training is. MMA fighters can duke it out for a few minutes in a ring but this guy doesn't even feel pain. That was nauseating and he didnt even flinch.

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Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
September 14 2010 04:10 GMT
#3
Wow that was crazy. It takes serious balls to not have to cringe and automatically grab your nuts after 3 swift kicks.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-14 04:17:15
September 14 2010 04:10 GMT
#4



You reminded me of this video from this cyclist dude from Portland.
Ordained
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
September 14 2010 04:14 GMT
#5
On September 14 2010 13:10 Titusmaster6 wrote:
Wow that was crazy. It takes serious balls to not have to cringe and automatically grab your nuts after 3 swift kicks.

Not just to not grab for them. But to stay right side up.
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Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
September 14 2010 04:20 GMT
#6
Isn't Dan Hardy a Shaolin Monk? I mean that guy trained with them for a year IIRC. That's why he never taps out to GSP's submissions.
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
September 14 2010 04:22 GMT
#7
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
September 14 2010 04:24 GMT
#8
looooooool can;t beat that
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
September 14 2010 04:46 GMT
#9
LOL

"After taking thousands of kicks to the groin for five years, Kirby's testicles toughened."
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
eaT_Mi_Lquid
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany509 Posts
September 14 2010 04:54 GMT
#10
LOL not even that, his testicles are as hard as fucking STONES !!! :D hahahaha
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eaT_Mi_Lquid
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany509 Posts
September 14 2010 04:56 GMT
#11
On September 14 2010 12:52 royzizzle wrote:
I noticed with the rise of the UFC many american martial artists are completely discrediting the skill of shaolin monks to "flashy wushu moves".

The following video conclusively ends the debate over who will win in an all out fight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAhSSy4_7mc

As you can see. This video exposes a critical weakness in the MMA fighter; one that the shaolin monk does not even flinch at.

I think that our opinions will agree

thank you


but seriously i started laughing off my ass when the shaolin guy startet to hit his own nuts for preparation. LOL
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Humbug
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States264 Posts
September 14 2010 04:58 GMT
#12
Haha, someone should pick up those skills and then take on the $500,000,000 challenge.
(http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=61267 for those that don't remember)
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shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
September 14 2010 05:14 GMT
#13
On September 14 2010 13:22 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a86cQobU-n4


am I the only person who was like shivering in real life watching that.

oh my god it just hurts watching it ughhh
pokeyAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States936 Posts
September 14 2010 05:22 GMT
#14
Err i dunno how accurate the above video is. I think those that practice getting kicked in the balls actually develop muscles to ascend their balls into their body cavity out of harms way. I seriously doubt you can take serious force to them without getting injured. Its not so much that the pain isn't getting transmitted and more that actual balls arent being kicked.

That said I'd still take a MMA fighter lol. Those that practice this 'art' have to be singularly focused and prepare their bodies beforehand, but you cant really steel yourself against being knocked out/choked out.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
September 14 2010 05:24 GMT
#15
I think I've seen how this plays out before.



Indiana > MMA fighter > Shaolin Monk > Arab ninja
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 14 2010 05:24 GMT
#16
That guy's balls are OP. They need to be nerfed.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17542 Posts
September 14 2010 05:35 GMT
#17
My question is: How would balls of steel save you if you get punched in the face?

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MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
September 14 2010 05:38 GMT
#18
That video makes me feel sympathy pain in my balls, and for no good reason, because he doesn't even feel it.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
pokeyAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States936 Posts
September 14 2010 05:40 GMT
#19
On September 14 2010 14:35 Manit0u wrote:
My question is: How would balls of steel save you if you get punched in the face?

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Employ a tight high guard while thrusting your hips towards your opponent, legs way to the side, balls defenseless. Hope your opponent tires himself out from the bait or despairs at your iron balls and forfeits.
dapierow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Serbia1316 Posts
September 14 2010 05:50 GMT
#20
On September 14 2010 13:20 Licmyobelisk wrote:
Isn't Dan Hardy a Shaolin Monk? I mean that guy trained with them for a year IIRC. That's why he never taps out to GSP's submissions.

No, he didnt tap out to gsp's submissions because hes a crazy baddass, and because it wasnt the "proper"technique for the submissions...

Hardy spent a year with them... these guys train every day since the age of 5 for the whole day... hardy is 28 he spend 1 year training shaolin, while 28 year old shoalin's spent 23 years training...
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Fraidnot
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States824 Posts
September 14 2010 06:15 GMT
#21
So in order to make sure that you aren't taken down by a single groin shot in a fight, you take thousands of kicks to the nuts over a period of years to build up a resistance? I'm just going to say it. Any gained benefits from this technique, not worth it.
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
September 14 2010 06:17 GMT
#22
On September 14 2010 15:15 Fraidnot wrote:
So in order to make sure that you aren't taken down by a single groin shot in a fight, you take thousands of kicks to the nuts over a period of years to build up a resistance? I'm just going to say it. Any gained benefits from this technique, not worth it.

well thats provided they dont go splat before the thousandth try.
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aG.Admirai
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada55 Posts
September 14 2010 06:25 GMT
#23
+1 carapace
mardi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1164 Posts
September 14 2010 06:28 GMT
#24
On September 14 2010 15:25 aG.Admirai wrote:
+1 carapace


LOLZ, i was laughing quietly till this. when i read this, i woke up my roommate. lolz.
Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
September 14 2010 06:45 GMT
#25
I'm pretty sure you have harsh downsides taking a similar training.
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KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
September 14 2010 06:52 GMT
#26
On September 14 2010 13:22 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a86cQobU-n4


Holy shit, that's insane O_O

Mad respect to people who can handle such a kick to the nuts.
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
Chro
Profile Joined May 2010
United States240 Posts
September 14 2010 06:56 GMT
#27
As crazy as it sounds kicking the groin is a legit strike. Its not allowed in most fights but in kung-fu sparring it is. It happens alot of the time when someone kicks, because whenever you kick the groin is open. It only takes a couple of decent kicks there to make them stop kicking, limit flexibility and even slow down their footwork. Not to mention that horrid taste you get in your mouth when you get nailed hard. As for that issue overall... i doubt theres anything in america thats close to real shaolin. MMA is just sport fighting brought together, kung-fu came from pure bloodshed over thousands of years.
royzizzle
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (North)51 Posts
September 14 2010 07:08 GMT
#28
On September 14 2010 14:22 pokeyAA wrote:
Err i dunno how accurate the above video is. I think those that practice getting kicked in the balls actually develop muscles to ascend their balls into their body cavity out of harms way. I seriously doubt you can take serious force to them without getting injured. Its not so much that the pain isn't getting transmitted and more that actual balls arent being kicked.

That said I'd still take a MMA fighter lol. Those that practice this 'art' have to be singularly focused and prepare their bodies beforehand, but you cant really steel yourself against being knocked out/choked out.


How to prepare for choke:

royzizzle
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (North)51 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-14 07:19:03
September 14 2010 07:13 GMT
#29
On September 14 2010 14:35 Manit0u wrote:
My question is: How would balls of steel save you if you get punched in the face?



if you can survive a kick to the nuts, you can survive punches to the face with similar training.

there are also spots much more vulnerable than face. The throat is one such example:


ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
September 14 2010 07:33 GMT
#30
MMA vs Shaolin showmatch would be fucking awesome!!
Writerptrk
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3820 Posts
September 14 2010 07:54 GMT
#31
I love how the second guy does all his preparation moves and stuff.
but then his kicks just look like a drunk dude pummeling a lampost or something
: o )
Obscure
Profile Joined July 2008
United States272 Posts
September 14 2010 08:15 GMT
#32
Duke trained with the Monks
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
September 14 2010 08:18 GMT
#33
On September 14 2010 15:25 aG.Admirai wrote:
+1 carapace

lol, it's about time someone said this..
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Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
September 14 2010 08:55 GMT
#34
Wow thanks nony for that video, haha, great watch. +1 carapace? Dude, the guys got chitinous plating.
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greendestiny
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Bosnia-Herzegovina114 Posts
September 14 2010 09:57 GMT
#35
Iron Jacket, Iron Groin, Iron Neck...
Omg, when I watched 'Shaolin Soccer' I thought it was made up!
In the Sports science clip, notice how they just keep repeating the scream over and over "Waooh Waooh Waooh Waooh" so it etches extra deep into our memory :-)
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NSGrendel
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom235 Posts
September 14 2010 12:22 GMT
#36
On September 14 2010 17:55 Phayze wrote:
Wow thanks nony for that video, haha, great watch. +1 carapace? Dude, the guys got chitinous plating.


I was thinking more Mental Sacs.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
September 14 2010 13:21 GMT
#37
On September 14 2010 13:46 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
LOL

"After taking thousands of kicks to the groin for five years, Kirby's testicles toughened."


lolololol That's one of the best things I've ever heard.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
uga
Profile Joined August 2010
United States11 Posts
September 14 2010 13:59 GMT
#38
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
September 14 2010 14:07 GMT
#39
I'd imagine they all sound like little girls.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
c.ngeK
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia53 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-14 14:11:25
September 14 2010 14:10 GMT
#40
So what, are you going to go in balls-first? Pelvis permenantly thrust forwards with your arms covering your body?

[image loading]

Not very effective imo.

Edit: Also look up the cremaster muscle.
uga
Profile Joined August 2010
United States11 Posts
September 14 2010 14:12 GMT
#41
On September 14 2010 23:10 c.ngeK wrote:
So what, are you going to go in balls-first? Pelvis permenantly thrust forwards with your arms covering your body?

[image loading]

Not very effective imo.

Edit: Also look up the cremaster muscle.


it worked in the matrix
Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
September 14 2010 14:16 GMT
#42
On September 14 2010 23:10 c.ngeK wrote:
So what, are you going to go in balls-first? Pelvis permenantly thrust forwards with your arms covering your body?

[image loading]

Not very effective imo.

Edit: Also look up the cremaster muscle.

Evidently, they could go in neck-first, too. I don't really understand this response, though. Do you think these guys are super fragile aside from their nuts or something?
pokeyAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States936 Posts
September 14 2010 15:42 GMT
#43
On September 14 2010 23:16 Pyrthas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2010 23:10 c.ngeK wrote:
So what, are you going to go in balls-first? Pelvis permenantly thrust forwards with your arms covering your body?

[image loading]

Not very effective imo.

Edit: Also look up the cremaster muscle.

Evidently, they could go in neck-first, too. I don't really understand this response, though. Do you think these guys are super fragile aside from their nuts or something?


No, I think they need quite some time to prepare their body to receive those shots. As in if they start moving around, they will likely get dropped. I doubt also they can take consecutive shots well or to places they are not expecting (in all those types of demonstrations, they know in advance where they are being hit, and have time to prepare themselves for it), and some places you cant really 'tough it out' like the chin.

Basically to me they are like human punching bags that can probably take 4-5 hits before getting ktfo.
gr8ape
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada302 Posts
September 14 2010 15:51 GMT
#44
That is fucking retarded his nutsack probably hemmorhaged after that and he is now sterile.
Reaper9
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-14 15:53:39
September 14 2010 15:53 GMT
#45
I think that being sterile is the least of their concerns... They are monks after all. That being said, I winced.
I post only when my brain works.
Miss_Cleo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States406 Posts
September 14 2010 17:22 GMT
#46
On September 14 2010 14:35 Manit0u wrote:
My question is: How would balls of steel save you if you get punched in the face?

[image loading]



Save to assume they train more than just their balls.
After all, they are shaolin monks.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
September 14 2010 18:34 GMT
#47
"I've got balls of steel"

I believe that's appropriate right now.
Mjolnir
Profile Joined January 2009
912 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-14 22:29:44
September 14 2010 22:28 GMT
#48

There are spots on the body that you just can't train to take a punch. In fact, it's starting to look more and more as though these spots not only can't be trained but actually cause more severe reactions over time due to excessive training and/or repeated impacts.

Everyone can get KO'd. Some easier than others, but everyone goes down when you hit them in the right spot. There are times when your body just physically cannot continue due to physiological damage. It doesn't matter what degree of mental fortitude you have... anyone who has seriously hurt themselves knows exactly what I'm talking about. It sucks.

That being said, the question then becomes... who is better at not getting hit?

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