My god ... That just goes to show how impressive their training is. MMA fighters can duke it out for a few minutes in a ring but this guy doesn't even feel pain. That was nauseating and he didnt even flinch.
On September 14 2010 13:10 Titusmaster6 wrote: Wow that was crazy. It takes serious balls to not have to cringe and automatically grab your nuts after 3 swift kicks.
Not just to not grab for them. But to stay right side up.
On September 14 2010 12:52 royzizzle wrote: I noticed with the rise of the UFC many american martial artists are completely discrediting the skill of shaolin monks to "flashy wushu moves".
The following video conclusively ends the debate over who will win in an all out fight:
Haha, someone should pick up those skills and then take on the $500,000,000 challenge. (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=61267 for those that don't remember)
Err i dunno how accurate the above video is. I think those that practice getting kicked in the balls actually develop muscles to ascend their balls into their body cavity out of harms way. I seriously doubt you can take serious force to them without getting injured. Its not so much that the pain isn't getting transmitted and more that actual balls arent being kicked.
That said I'd still take a MMA fighter lol. Those that practice this 'art' have to be singularly focused and prepare their bodies beforehand, but you cant really steel yourself against being knocked out/choked out.
On September 14 2010 14:35 Manit0u wrote: My question is: How would balls of steel save you if you get punched in the face?
Employ a tight high guard while thrusting your hips towards your opponent, legs way to the side, balls defenseless. Hope your opponent tires himself out from the bait or despairs at your iron balls and forfeits.
On September 14 2010 13:20 Licmyobelisk wrote: Isn't Dan Hardy a Shaolin Monk? I mean that guy trained with them for a year IIRC. That's why he never taps out to GSP's submissions.
No, he didnt tap out to gsp's submissions because hes a crazy baddass, and because it wasnt the "proper"technique for the submissions...
Hardy spent a year with them... these guys train every day since the age of 5 for the whole day... hardy is 28 he spend 1 year training shaolin, while 28 year old shoalin's spent 23 years training...
So in order to make sure that you aren't taken down by a single groin shot in a fight, you take thousands of kicks to the nuts over a period of years to build up a resistance? I'm just going to say it. Any gained benefits from this technique, not worth it.
On September 14 2010 15:15 Fraidnot wrote: So in order to make sure that you aren't taken down by a single groin shot in a fight, you take thousands of kicks to the nuts over a period of years to build up a resistance? I'm just going to say it. Any gained benefits from this technique, not worth it.
well thats provided they dont go splat before the thousandth try.
As crazy as it sounds kicking the groin is a legit strike. Its not allowed in most fights but in kung-fu sparring it is. It happens alot of the time when someone kicks, because whenever you kick the groin is open. It only takes a couple of decent kicks there to make them stop kicking, limit flexibility and even slow down their footwork. Not to mention that horrid taste you get in your mouth when you get nailed hard. As for that issue overall... i doubt theres anything in america thats close to real shaolin. MMA is just sport fighting brought together, kung-fu came from pure bloodshed over thousands of years.
On September 14 2010 14:22 pokeyAA wrote: Err i dunno how accurate the above video is. I think those that practice getting kicked in the balls actually develop muscles to ascend their balls into their body cavity out of harms way. I seriously doubt you can take serious force to them without getting injured. Its not so much that the pain isn't getting transmitted and more that actual balls arent being kicked.
That said I'd still take a MMA fighter lol. Those that practice this 'art' have to be singularly focused and prepare their bodies beforehand, but you cant really steel yourself against being knocked out/choked out.
Iron Jacket, Iron Groin, Iron Neck... Omg, when I watched 'Shaolin Soccer' I thought it was made up! In the Sports science clip, notice how they just keep repeating the scream over and over "Waooh Waooh Waooh Waooh" so it etches extra deep into our memory :-)
On September 14 2010 23:10 c.ngeK wrote: So what, are you going to go in balls-first? Pelvis permenantly thrust forwards with your arms covering your body?
On September 14 2010 23:10 c.ngeK wrote: So what, are you going to go in balls-first? Pelvis permenantly thrust forwards with your arms covering your body?
Not very effective imo.
Edit: Also look up the cremaster muscle.
Evidently, they could go in neck-first, too. I don't really understand this response, though. Do you think these guys are super fragile aside from their nuts or something?
On September 14 2010 23:10 c.ngeK wrote: So what, are you going to go in balls-first? Pelvis permenantly thrust forwards with your arms covering your body?
Not very effective imo.
Edit: Also look up the cremaster muscle.
Evidently, they could go in neck-first, too. I don't really understand this response, though. Do you think these guys are super fragile aside from their nuts or something?
No, I think they need quite some time to prepare their body to receive those shots. As in if they start moving around, they will likely get dropped. I doubt also they can take consecutive shots well or to places they are not expecting (in all those types of demonstrations, they know in advance where they are being hit, and have time to prepare themselves for it), and some places you cant really 'tough it out' like the chin.
Basically to me they are like human punching bags that can probably take 4-5 hits before getting ktfo.
There are spots on the body that you just can't train to take a punch. In fact, it's starting to look more and more as though these spots not only can't be trained but actually cause more severe reactions over time due to excessive training and/or repeated impacts.
Everyone can get KO'd. Some easier than others, but everyone goes down when you hit them in the right spot. There are times when your body just physically cannot continue due to physiological damage. It doesn't matter what degree of mental fortitude you have... anyone who has seriously hurt themselves knows exactly what I'm talking about. It sucks.
That being said, the question then becomes... who is better at not getting hit?