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Adila
Profile Joined April 2010
United States874 Posts
April 15 2013 01:12 GMT
#3461
On April 15 2013 09:31 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 04:57 Resisty wrote:
Leveling has been ok for me so far as a casual guy. I'm averaging one hour every level, which includes a lot of alt-tabbing doing nothing, without exp boosts. I ignore BAMs and just do quests since I don't know anything about good grinding spots.


BAMs can be solo'ed. They do yield quite a bit of exp. I think it's worth it.


That really depends on your class. For some, like a Mystic, the time wasted isn't worth it.
TJ31
Profile Joined October 2012
630 Posts
April 15 2013 01:26 GMT
#3462
On April 15 2013 09:18 Sufficiency wrote:

I don't think so. Pairing with a healer will make everything a lot faster.

If you mean playing as a healer, then it probably will. If any other class, then it's the same. HP regen crystals are enough to pull whole field of mobs. Zerkers/slayers/sorcs these day do most of quests in 1-3 pulls from very low levels (archers/warriors/lancer are fine too, but a bit slower), since they removed stupid agro limit (could agro only 6 normal mobs at the same time before F2P).
Also it depends on the people. Some people afk often, those endless smokebreaks and such stuff. Some are just terribad etc.
It also depend on your play style a lot. For some slowish and relaxed gameplay, it's fine in the most cases. But if you want to level faster, then it's: static party with skype/ts/mumble (so you won't waste time on typing in game)>solo>party with randoms.

Actually, it's the same for 60 and gearing/farming/etc.
Static party is the best obviously. But if compare PUGing for the instances or even making your own party in LFG chat with soloing easier instances for MES/MW alkanest, it'll be faster to solo ET or LoT than farming AC/MC/SG/etc with randoms.
It's unpredictable how good or bad your party will be, especially if you got it through LFD. Which means fails, wipes, lost of explaining, rage quitters and much more.


On April 15 2013 09:31 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 04:57 Resisty wrote:
Leveling has been ok for me so far as a casual guy. I'm averaging one hour every level, which includes a lot of alt-tabbing doing nothing, without exp boosts. I ignore BAMs and just do quests since I don't know anything about good grinding spots.


BAMs can be solo'ed. They do yield quite a bit of exp. I think it's worth it.

Not really, even for DPS with exp boost. It could be worth only if you're leveling an alt and make +9-12 weapon for the lulz. But overall, normal quests is the way to get it done. Or in some cases grinding mobs with 100% exp boost, like 54 to 58.

Actually, in Korea, they nerfed BAMs not long ago. HP, attack, removed or weakened special attacks and now they drop hp and mp spheres during fight. Guess why? Right, because no one bothered with them since game's release.
NA producer said they don't want to nerf those, though. And I think it's a right decision, leveling to 60 is a joke anyway, so if someone <probably new> will want some fun and challenge, he'll have it.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 15 2013 04:39 GMT
#3463
Do Nexus on different servers happen at the same time?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
TJ31
Profile Joined October 2012
630 Posts
April 15 2013 05:48 GMT
#3464
Yeah, same time for all servers.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 17 2013 20:35 GMT
#3465
BTW I TOTALLY apologize to Naibuki for constantly re-applying to the guild. I suck at making up my mind.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
April 17 2013 22:45 GMT
#3466
On April 18 2013 05:35 Two_DoWn wrote:
BTW I TOTALLY apologize to Naibuki for constantly re-applying to the guild. I suck at making up my mind.

i know i can tell -___-
Follow me on Instagram @Chef_Betto
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 23:15:14
April 17 2013 23:14 GMT
#3467
On April 18 2013 07:45 Laneir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 05:35 Two_DoWn wrote:
BTW I TOTALLY apologize to Naibuki for constantly re-applying to the guild. I suck at making up my mind.

i know i can tell -___-

Dont blame me blame the fact we can only have 2 characters on a server

Although I do think (Cross fingers) that I should have mostly settled down by now.

At least until tomorrow.

God I suck at MMOs
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
April 19 2013 02:40 GMT
#3468
Drunk Karaoke Night on Sat if you guys want to join it on the guild vent
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 03:10:23
April 19 2013 03:06 GMT
#3469
On April 18 2013 08:14 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 07:45 Laneir wrote:
On April 18 2013 05:35 Two_DoWn wrote:
BTW I TOTALLY apologize to Naibuki for constantly re-applying to the guild. I suck at making up my mind.

i know i can tell -___-

Dont blame me blame the fact we can only have 2 characters on a server

Although I do think (Cross fingers) that I should have mostly settled down by now.

At least until tomorrow.

God I suck at MMOs


What are you going to play exactly?

And yea, that's how I felt when I first played it - coming with no MMO experience whatsoever, it was really confusing.

On April 15 2013 10:26 TJ31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 09:18 Sufficiency wrote:

I don't think so. Pairing with a healer will make everything a lot faster.

If you mean playing as a healer, then it probably will. If any other class, then it's the same. HP regen crystals are enough to pull whole field of mobs. Zerkers/slayers/sorcs these day do most of quests in 1-3 pulls from very low levels (archers/warriors/lancer are fine too, but a bit slower), since they removed stupid agro limit (could agro only 6 normal mobs at the same time before F2P).
Also it depends on the people. Some people afk often, those endless smokebreaks and such stuff. Some are just terribad etc.
It also depend on your play style a lot. For some slowish and relaxed gameplay, it's fine in the most cases. But if you want to level faster, then it's: static party with skype/ts/mumble (so you won't waste time on typing in game)>solo>party with randoms.

Actually, it's the same for 60 and gearing/farming/etc.
Static party is the best obviously. But if compare PUGing for the instances or even making your own party in LFG chat with soloing easier instances for MES/MW alkanest, it'll be faster to solo ET or LoT than farming AC/MC/SG/etc with randoms.
It's unpredictable how good or bad your party will be, especially if you got it through LFD. Which means fails, wipes, lost of explaining, rage quitters and much more.


Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 09:31 Sufficiency wrote:
On April 15 2013 04:57 Resisty wrote:
Leveling has been ok for me so far as a casual guy. I'm averaging one hour every level, which includes a lot of alt-tabbing doing nothing, without exp boosts. I ignore BAMs and just do quests since I don't know anything about good grinding spots.


BAMs can be solo'ed. They do yield quite a bit of exp. I think it's worth it.

Not really, even for DPS with exp boost. It could be worth only if you're leveling an alt and make +9-12 weapon for the lulz. But overall, normal quests is the way to get it done. Or in some cases grinding mobs with 100% exp boost, like 54 to 58.

Actually, in Korea, they nerfed BAMs not long ago. HP, attack, removed or weakened special attacks and now they drop hp and mp spheres during fight. Guess why? Right, because no one bothered with them since game's release.
NA producer said they don't want to nerf those, though. And I think it's a right decision, leveling to 60 is a joke anyway, so if someone <probably new> will want some fun and challenge, he'll have it.


From what I have calculated myself, the EXP rate is about the same - at least for the lvl 20 Basilisks BAMs. The reason is that when you fight BAMs you don't have to run around doing nothing.

What I do NOT know is the BAM HP-to-EXP ratio. It would be interesting to find out exactly how it differs from a normal mob.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
April 20 2013 03:32 GMT
#3470
And we did it again Liquid Win Vanarch 2 times in a row. Liquid Fighting!!
Follow me on Instagram @Chef_Betto
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
April 21 2013 07:33 GMT
#3471
I had a gold earring drop. I could sell it for 250+g, or I could use it. (I'm an archer.) Would you guys recommend I use it, or just sell it on the AH?

http://teracodex.com/item/4115
Resisty
Profile Joined December 2011
United States375 Posts
April 21 2013 07:39 GMT
#3472
Is that really worth 250g? O_o
If it is, I would sell it since you will eventually get something better.
Humans are greedy, therefore they are human.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
April 21 2013 07:47 GMT
#3473
I'm just looking at the prices of what's on the AH right now. Seems to be all that much and higher.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 08:54:39
April 21 2013 08:43 GMT
#3474
Good luck selling it. The market is probably very slim.

On April 21 2013 16:39 Resisty wrote:
Is that really worth 250g? O_o
If it is, I would sell it since you will eventually get something better.



It could be. I once found a superior leather armor from SM.... and it was sold for 600g. Very odd.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 21 2013 21:14 GMT
#3475
Does anyone know how crit rate and crit defense interact? And how much % crit chance Aura of the Merciless provides?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Resisty
Profile Joined December 2011
United States375 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 22:33:46
April 21 2013 21:59 GMT
#3476
Mystic Aura is double critical rate.
Some forum posts have suggested that critical rate is a direct 1:1 with your rating i.e. 40 rating is 40%. Crit defense modifies that rate multiplicatively but in some unknown manner. I think how levels, glyphs, and crystals factor in are also still unknown. Unfortunately, the community has done very little testing on this so there isn't much solid evidence.

Edit:
I take that back. The official forums are just utter shit for searching. A one year old thread has brought these formulas up:
Crit % = (Crit Rate / 10) + Carving crystal
Crit % from behind = (1.8 * (Crit Rate / 10) ) + Carving crystal + Castanic racial (if you're Castanic)
Humans are greedy, therefore they are human.
TJ31
Profile Joined October 2012
630 Posts
April 21 2013 22:51 GMT
#3477
On April 21 2013 16:33 Sandster wrote:
I had a gold earring drop. I could sell it for 250+g, or I could use it. (I'm an archer.) Would you guys recommend I use it, or just sell it on the AH?

http://teracodex.com/item/4115

Sell all expensive (gold) equip before you reach 60, it won't last you more than a day or two at best and blue or even green stuff should be more than enough. And its either free or 1-2 gold, unlike some gold stuff.
That way you'll have a bit more gold by time you will reach 60, which will help you to gear up a lil better right at the start.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 21 2013 23:09 GMT
#3478
On April 22 2013 06:59 Resisty wrote:
Mystic Aura is double critical rate.
Some forum posts have suggested that critical rate is a direct 1:1 with your rating i.e. 40 rating is 40%. Crit defense modifies that rate multiplicatively but in some unknown manner. I think how levels, glyphs, and crystals factor in are also still unknown. Unfortunately, the community has done very little testing on this so there isn't much solid evidence.

Edit:
I take that back. The official forums are just utter shit for searching. A one year old thread has brought these formulas up:
Crit % = (Crit Rate / 10) + Carving crystal
Crit % from behind = (1.8 * (Crit Rate / 10) ) + Carving crystal + Castanic racial (if you're Castanic)


Probably should test this out. I am pretty much only interested in how crit rate works. It shouldn't be too hard.... Just need to find someone to duel with and let me hit for free.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
April 21 2013 23:31 GMT
#3479
Can you transfer chars between PvP/PvE servers? Also who are the guild managers for big TL guilds?
Stuck.
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
April 21 2013 23:49 GMT
#3480
wala are you playing again

carry me mchm plz
the courage to be a lazy bum
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