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ZhenMiChan
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Netherlands1181 Posts
March 20 2011 17:07 GMT
#981
I've been playing this game for some time now and i really enjoy it.
i decided to record my game play and put it on Youtube



I know I'm not the most interesting guy but some1 might enjoy it
Studying Chinese~
procyonlotor
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy473 Posts
March 20 2011 17:23 GMT
#982
I felt there was a lot of stuff that could have been improved with DA2 but there are two things that really stand out for me.

Firstly, the wave system. It is completely ridiculous. It's a total game breaker for me. It made combat grueling rather than fun, every encounter something to be dreaded (and not in the good sense) than enjoyed. Every time I was fighting during the more advanced parts of the game I was just shaking my head and sighing. Also, the frequency of fights is too high. Guy can't take out his trash without being assaulted by 50+ masked bandits who just happened to be prowling the rich part of town. You know, the one where all the nobles and every important person in the city lives.

Secondly, the ending. It was a complete and utter sham. Don't let anybody persuade you that it wasn't. I may just have to whip out my rhetorical pickax and deconstruct the entire charade.

There's good stuff about it too, but the quality overall is not consistent. I was very disappointed. Even sorry I'd bought it.

Also, every time Flemeth appears she goes "yada yada dramatic stuff, look at how dramatic and ominous I am, you should, like, really like me, dramatic stuff - go!"
Zabimaru
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom132 Posts
March 20 2011 17:48 GMT
#983
Yes.
One of my last quests involved the choice to kill a very important person (now that is no spoiler as every quest is about killing), being forced to kill a lot of other people and my companion just doesn't care about that. No talking afterwars, where there should have been tears and despair.


If this is the quest I think it is there is a reason to it- the quest is bugged, you get the reaction to the event before it happens... left me confused for a bit until I did the actual quest.
To Death we shall all go.
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
March 22 2011 11:24 GMT
#984
Are you guys just rushing through? I am on nightmare 43 hours in and I just got to Isabela's relic quest in the foundry. I am a dedicated completionist though, I have done every single quest I could find while being thorough. Looking at probably 60-70 hours at the end, I would guess.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
The Chief
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia138 Posts
March 22 2011 13:00 GMT
#985
Took me less than 40 hours to do every quest, every side quest, every conversation with anyone as well as explore every possible place you can go MULTIPLE times.
Moist
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
March 22 2011 23:46 GMT
#986
Sure sounds quick on normal.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Billy_
Profile Joined September 2010
461 Posts
March 23 2011 07:05 GMT
#987
[image loading]

In case anyone thought that Blizzards point of view on writing stunk... writing is what makes or breaks a Bioware game, cause it sure it as hell isn't the gameplay, and then this fuck who happens to be the lead writer starts behaving like this. DAII is almost as bad as FFXIII and has nothing good about it.
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
March 23 2011 07:13 GMT
#988
I don't know what you're smoking, but a lot of us, if not all, agree that DA2 combat is better. Combat is not all there is to game play but it is a rather integral part.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Deja Thoris
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa646 Posts
March 23 2011 08:29 GMT
#989
The game was disappointing. Has nobody pointed out theat every cave, sewer and underground bit was the same template? The game also felt small compared to DAO, The plot was uninspiring and the writing forgettable.

Having said that its still a pretty decent game, just not the epic we've come to expect from Bioware.
Billy_
Profile Joined September 2010
461 Posts
March 23 2011 09:24 GMT
#990
On March 23 2011 16:13 lynx.oblige wrote:
I don't know what you're smoking, but a lot of us, if not all, agree that DA2 combat is better. Combat is not all there is to game play but it is a rather integral part.


The combat is the only the only thing that hadn't suffered from a major decline compared to DAO, but it'd need to be a lot better to carry the rest of this trainwreck on it's own. plus I take issue with supporting developers who are clearly happy to act as pretentious arseholes who don't even attempt to be subtle.
DND_Enkil
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden598 Posts
March 23 2011 09:36 GMT
#991
On March 23 2011 16:13 lynx.oblige wrote:
I don't know what you're smoking, but a lot of us, if not all, agree that DA2 combat is better. Combat is not all there is to game play but it is a rather integral part.


I much preferred DA:O's combat, the endless waves, your party moving in supersonic speed and mobs in slowmotion, throwing in "assasins" with more health than tanks in order to make combat challenging, throwing a AoE-spell and seeing mobs absolutely explode in blood, lack of isometric wiev, the damn speeed of the combat making it a pain to try to co-ordinate something with your whole party etc etc.

Combat was okay as long as you mainly focused on controlling one character, they should have either focus on party combat or scrapped the idea of having a party and just allowed you to take one partner with you. This might have meant that they could have balanced combat without super mega assasins or endless waves of fodder for you to spontaniously explode in blood and gore.
"If you write about a sewing needle there is always some one-eyed bastard that gets offended" - Fritiof The Pirate Nilsson
The Chief
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia138 Posts
March 23 2011 10:41 GMT
#992
On March 23 2011 16:05 Billy_ wrote:
[image loading]

In case anyone thought that Blizzards point of view on writing stunk... writing is what makes or breaks a Bioware game, cause it sure it as hell isn't the gameplay, and then this fuck who happens to be the lead writer starts behaving like this. DAII is almost as bad as FFXIII and has nothing good about it.

come on now.... its not THAT bad, its story is bad sure but no way is it THAT bad lol
Moist
Rashid
Profile Joined March 2011
191 Posts
March 23 2011 11:57 GMT
#993
i havent played the game yet.

i jsut can figure out the real truth about Dragon Age 2. How much of it is the game sucking and how much of it is just an overreaction by over-entitled PC gamers who complain and bitch about everything? If the game really sucks that hard, then why does ALL the good gaming magazines and websites give the game good reviews?
user111
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada47 Posts
March 23 2011 11:59 GMT
#994
this game has no soul

DA:O smokes it all the way around and back
Bondator
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland120 Posts
March 23 2011 12:17 GMT
#995
On March 23 2011 20:57 Rashid wrote:
i havent played the game yet.

i jsut can figure out the real truth about Dragon Age 2. How much of it is the game sucking and how much of it is just an overreaction by over-entitled PC gamers who complain and bitch about everything? If the game really sucks that hard, then why does ALL the good gaming magazines and websites give the game good reviews?


I've put about 10 hours into the game now and my opinion is that a lot of the critisism is overly exaggerated. With ME2 and DA2 it's clear that Bioware is streamlining their games quite a bit but I don't consider that entirely a bad thing. The game is different than it's predecessor but it stil feels like a dragon age game with all the character developement and choices to be made. Bottom line, I like the game. I don't like the enemies that pop out of nowhere or the character locked camera, but as annoying as they are, they don't make the game unplayable or unenjoyable.
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/520440/1/Bondator/
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
March 23 2011 12:52 GMT
#996
On March 23 2011 21:17 Bondator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 20:57 Rashid wrote:
i havent played the game yet.

i jsut can figure out the real truth about Dragon Age 2. How much of it is the game sucking and how much of it is just an overreaction by over-entitled PC gamers who complain and bitch about everything? If the game really sucks that hard, then why does ALL the good gaming magazines and websites give the game good reviews?


I've put about 10 hours into the game now and my opinion is that a lot of the critisism is overly exaggerated. With ME2 and DA2 it's clear that Bioware is streamlining their games quite a bit but I don't consider that entirely a bad thing. The game is different than it's predecessor but it stil feels like a dragon age game with all the character developement and choices to be made. Bottom line, I like the game. I don't like the enemies that pop out of nowhere or the character locked camera, but as annoying as they are, they don't make the game unplayable or unenjoyable.


After 10 hours you haven't yet reached the phase of "oh no, not again the same dungeon, let's see which doors are closed this time" for every single quest. That alone was the reason i stopped playing.
DND_Enkil
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden598 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 13:46:41
March 23 2011 13:44 GMT
#997
On March 23 2011 20:57 Rashid wrote:
i havent played the game yet.

i jsut can figure out the real truth about Dragon Age 2. How much of it is the game sucking and how much of it is just an overreaction by over-entitled PC gamers who complain and bitch about everything? If the game really sucks that hard, then why does ALL the good gaming magazines and websites give the game good reviews?


This pretty much sums it up for me:

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/03/let-off-some-steam-dragon-age-ii-reviews/

And far from ALL gaming websites and magazines are giving it top reviews,

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/dragon-age-2/review.html?mode=web&tag=scoresummary;critic-score

And i also found the video review on gamespot pretty accurate, he explains the pros and cons of the game and leaves it up to you to decide if the game is something for you or not.
"If you write about a sewing needle there is always some one-eyed bastard that gets offended" - Fritiof The Pirate Nilsson
Sinborn
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States275 Posts
March 23 2011 16:41 GMT
#998
DA2 features one of the most brutal cliffhangers I have ever had the displeasure of experiencing. It's not a 'good' cliff-hanger, but rather one that you expected to be satisfied by the end of the game, but instead is extended into the void.

However, the core gameplay is well-paced and the dialogue is worth sitting down for. I'd get it on sale, though, given that it is relatively short.
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 17:13:04
March 23 2011 17:09 GMT
#999
The combat is a failed attempt at making a tactical game into an action game, using the flawed logic of "more things dying is more fun!"
The story is bland and the quests uninteresting. I find all I'm doing is playing chase the yellow arrow. even reading/listening to everything I still have 0 attachment to any of the characters or their motivations within the story. The level design, something which, in DA:O had you interested and excited to look around is simply a dumbed down and endlessly repeated backdrop to the story you have no attachment to. I actually don't even know my character's motivation for most of the things you do, other then to look for opportunities to be a snide bitch (admittedly I'm choosing primarily the purple options, so I'm probably to blame on that.)

Stats you are essentially forced into putting all your points into the 2 stats associated with your class, not even really being able to focus all the points in one due to prereqs of both stats.

rogue: cunning/dex
warrior: str/stam
mage: magic/willpower

The other stats never come up enough to want to put points in them. Every levelup so far I put 2 pts in one and 1 in the other, then the level after I reverse it.

waves of spawning enemies works when it's done well, and sparingly, like with demons or undead climbing out of the ground. But when I'm fighting a pack of bandits in an enclosed room, and enemies are spawning right on top of me, it stops having even any semblance of tactics involved other then stack up on the tank and aoe everything down.

I've loved Bioware's games, with their great storytelling, and interesting worlds. There is none of that in this game and I am extremely disappointed in the Bioware team for making this game.
My guess is that EA came down and told them to make it more casual friendly, and then gave them a rushed deadline. I sincerely hope ME3 doesn't flop like DA2 did...
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
March 24 2011 02:26 GMT
#1000
On March 23 2011 22:44 DND_Enkil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 20:57 Rashid wrote:
i havent played the game yet.

i jsut can figure out the real truth about Dragon Age 2. How much of it is the game sucking and how much of it is just an overreaction by over-entitled PC gamers who complain and bitch about everything? If the game really sucks that hard, then why does ALL the good gaming magazines and websites give the game good reviews?


This pretty much sums it up for me:

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/03/let-off-some-steam-dragon-age-ii-reviews/

And far from ALL gaming websites and magazines are giving it top reviews,

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/dragon-age-2/review.html?mode=web&tag=scoresummary;critic-score

And i also found the video review on gamespot pretty accurate, he explains the pros and cons of the game and leaves it up to you to decide if the game is something for you or not.

I just read the Kotaku write-up for the first time, and it also pretty much sums up exactly how I feel about the game. Really good find sir.
Super serious.
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