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On December 02 2010 09:31 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 06:26 Curu wrote:On December 02 2010 05:57 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On December 02 2010 04:39 Curu wrote:
Something to consider:
Due to Larry Fitzgerald's ridiculously elevated rookie contract (he got an insane amount of money added on from incentives no one thought he would make), Fitz was able to get a new contract that had a lot of clauses favourable for him.
He's able to opt out of the last year of his contract, which means he can become an unrestricted free agent at the end of this year. He also has a no trade clause so he can go wherever he likes AND a clause that ensures the Cardinals cannot franchise tag him.
In short, Fitzgerald can potentially go to whatever team is interested in him that he wants after this season. And considering just how brutal Arizona's QBs are (NOTHING IS FUNNY TO DEREK ANDERSON) and his comments about not wanting to eat out of the garbage after tasting the caviar, I think it might be pretty likely that he opts out.
I think he'd go for a team with a legit QB and playoff aspirations. Some of these are:
Colts - doubtful, Peyton's already got Reggie but still possible, they have a lot of money tied up in that offense though and would probably be better off with a RB
Patriots - actually pretty doable if Belichick is willing to pay him. "Hey Larry, think you can top 23?"
Chargers - Looks like a real possibility with Vincent Jackson probably walking, Rivers to Fitz oh my
Steelers - a possibility with Holmes gone and Ward getting up there in years
Chiefs - Fitz has mentioned repeatedly that he absolutely loves Todd Haley so this is a real possibility even with Bowe there
Rams - not as good as the other teams but Bradford is looking hella good, plus he gets to go torment the Cardinals twice a year
Packers - They already have a lot tied up into that passing game plus the cold weather might be a turn off, need a running game way more anyways
Falcons - As a Falcons fan, I jizz my pants thinking of the possibility, still we have a lot of money tied long-term in Roddy and Jenkins already plus I don't think Fitz wants to be 1b
Saints - Oh shit
I hate how little respect Chicago gets. There's no reason to not list them there. Yeah the Bears are a contender but their O is much less of a sure thing. Cutler has been fairly inconsistent and that OLine is atrocious. I don't know if Fitz passes up playing with a safer QB and out of the cold climate. No, see, it's exactly that ignorant stand point that I hate. The Bears are a couple of good linemen (which can be done in a single draft), and a WR away from being a great offense.
That's been the Bear's MO post Super Bowl. The line got old and fell apart and that was it. It's hardly that easy to fix. You know how long the Niners were trying to add an O-Line and a good WR? Fuck, Alex Smith would be good enough to get to the playoffs if anyone can block. They finally got two OL last year that may be good enough, but there were MANY terrible drafts/signings for OL/WR for the Niners.
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On December 03 2010 07:57 Hawk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 09:31 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On December 02 2010 06:26 Curu wrote:On December 02 2010 05:57 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On December 02 2010 04:39 Curu wrote:
Something to consider:
Due to Larry Fitzgerald's ridiculously elevated rookie contract (he got an insane amount of money added on from incentives no one thought he would make), Fitz was able to get a new contract that had a lot of clauses favourable for him.
He's able to opt out of the last year of his contract, which means he can become an unrestricted free agent at the end of this year. He also has a no trade clause so he can go wherever he likes AND a clause that ensures the Cardinals cannot franchise tag him.
In short, Fitzgerald can potentially go to whatever team is interested in him that he wants after this season. And considering just how brutal Arizona's QBs are (NOTHING IS FUNNY TO DEREK ANDERSON) and his comments about not wanting to eat out of the garbage after tasting the caviar, I think it might be pretty likely that he opts out.
I think he'd go for a team with a legit QB and playoff aspirations. Some of these are:
Colts - doubtful, Peyton's already got Reggie but still possible, they have a lot of money tied up in that offense though and would probably be better off with a RB
Patriots - actually pretty doable if Belichick is willing to pay him. "Hey Larry, think you can top 23?"
Chargers - Looks like a real possibility with Vincent Jackson probably walking, Rivers to Fitz oh my
Steelers - a possibility with Holmes gone and Ward getting up there in years
Chiefs - Fitz has mentioned repeatedly that he absolutely loves Todd Haley so this is a real possibility even with Bowe there
Rams - not as good as the other teams but Bradford is looking hella good, plus he gets to go torment the Cardinals twice a year
Packers - They already have a lot tied up into that passing game plus the cold weather might be a turn off, need a running game way more anyways
Falcons - As a Falcons fan, I jizz my pants thinking of the possibility, still we have a lot of money tied long-term in Roddy and Jenkins already plus I don't think Fitz wants to be 1b
Saints - Oh shit
I hate how little respect Chicago gets. There's no reason to not list them there. Yeah the Bears are a contender but their O is much less of a sure thing. Cutler has been fairly inconsistent and that OLine is atrocious. I don't know if Fitz passes up playing with a safer QB and out of the cold climate. No, see, it's exactly that ignorant stand point that I hate. The Bears are a couple of good linemen (which can be done in a single draft), and a WR away from being a great offense. That's been the Bear's MO post Super Bowl. The line got old and fell apart and that was it. It's hardly that easy to fix. You know how long the Niners were trying to add an O-Line and a good WR? Fuck, Alex Smith would be good enough to get to the playoffs if anyone can block. They finally got two OL last year that may be good enough, but there were MANY terrible drafts/signings for OL/WR for the Niners.
Right, but how long did it take Cleveland, Denver, or Miami to improve their line? Miami and Denver, one year. Cleveland had about two good years after Joe Thomas was drafted, then they got shitty again, and are good again now. You're talking about two of the worst teams, in terms of drafting, in recent years. Of course they take forever to build good lines. Watch the Colts' line not have these issues next season.
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I'm getting kind of worried. They're saying Westbrook is being hampered by an injury. Although I didn't plan on him doing much this week, I hope he resumes a full starting role during playoffs, because someone picked up Anthony Dixon.
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On December 03 2010 00:52 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 17:18 sixghost wrote:On December 02 2010 09:31 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On December 02 2010 06:26 Curu wrote:On December 02 2010 05:57 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On December 02 2010 04:39 Curu wrote:
Something to consider:
Due to Larry Fitzgerald's ridiculously elevated rookie contract (he got an insane amount of money added on from incentives no one thought he would make), Fitz was able to get a new contract that had a lot of clauses favourable for him.
He's able to opt out of the last year of his contract, which means he can become an unrestricted free agent at the end of this year. He also has a no trade clause so he can go wherever he likes AND a clause that ensures the Cardinals cannot franchise tag him.
In short, Fitzgerald can potentially go to whatever team is interested in him that he wants after this season. And considering just how brutal Arizona's QBs are (NOTHING IS FUNNY TO DEREK ANDERSON) and his comments about not wanting to eat out of the garbage after tasting the caviar, I think it might be pretty likely that he opts out.
I think he'd go for a team with a legit QB and playoff aspirations. Some of these are:
Colts - doubtful, Peyton's already got Reggie but still possible, they have a lot of money tied up in that offense though and would probably be better off with a RB
Patriots - actually pretty doable if Belichick is willing to pay him. "Hey Larry, think you can top 23?"
Chargers - Looks like a real possibility with Vincent Jackson probably walking, Rivers to Fitz oh my
Steelers - a possibility with Holmes gone and Ward getting up there in years
Chiefs - Fitz has mentioned repeatedly that he absolutely loves Todd Haley so this is a real possibility even with Bowe there
Rams - not as good as the other teams but Bradford is looking hella good, plus he gets to go torment the Cardinals twice a year
Packers - They already have a lot tied up into that passing game plus the cold weather might be a turn off, need a running game way more anyways
Falcons - As a Falcons fan, I jizz my pants thinking of the possibility, still we have a lot of money tied long-term in Roddy and Jenkins already plus I don't think Fitz wants to be 1b
Saints - Oh shit
I hate how little respect Chicago gets. There's no reason to not list them there. Yeah the Bears are a contender but their O is much less of a sure thing. Cutler has been fairly inconsistent and that OLine is atrocious. I don't know if Fitz passes up playing with a safer QB and out of the cold climate. No, see, it's exactly that ignorant stand point that I hate. The Bears are a couple of good linemen (which can be done in a single draft), and a WR away from being a great offense. They don't need GREAT WR's outside of the #1, they need guys that can catch. If you put Fitz in that line up, take Hester out, make Bennett the #2, and put Knox in the slot (or Hester in the slot, but I think he'd be better as a PR/KR only kind of guy), then you have a pretty nice lineup. Bennett will get open a lot due to nothing more than Fitz being double covered all the time. Knox could be very dangerous in the slot, which is where his body-type and athleticism fits perfectly. . I don't see why anyone would assume Jerry Angelo would be able to draft two solid OLinemen in a single draft when he has failed to do so once in the last 6 years. If the Bears are going to sure up their line they're going to do it the same way they always have, overpaying for free agents. Also, you seem to be a lot more optimistic about Knox than me, the only time he ever seems to shine is during broken plays. No, it's just that the slot runs simpler routes, and is probably the easiest of the three wideout positions to play. I think he's garbage, but he may make a decent slot WR. If not him, then Hester would probably make a good one. And why the FUCK do teams that have no hope at the playoffs still play the WW? That is so ANNOYING! A 5-7 team in my division (note, has no chance at the playoffs since he's bottom 5 in scoring, and I locked my division last week) took Westy this week. WTF is that?! I understand that you want to keep trying when there are even the slimmest of hopes, but when it's over, it's over... just let it go.
i'm 6-6, can't make the playoffs in all likelihood, and picked up Westbrook in the TL because giving up in leagues is fucking retarded and if you have a problem with that then fuck off =)
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On December 03 2010 09:02 Souma wrote:
I'm getting kind of worried. They're saying Westbrook is being hampered by an injury. Although I didn't plan on him doing much this week, I hope he resumes a full starting role during playoffs, because someone picked up Anthony Dixon.
Brian Westbrook injured? Who could have possibly imagined such a thing...
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Man, that game was fun to watch tonight, but I can't help feeling bad for the Texans. It's such a talented team, and they just can't get their act together. Kubiak should fire the DC soon so he doesn't lose his job.
And another great game from Vick. The question at this point, to me, is "would the Eagles be 8-4 right now with Kolb?" I think the answer is no.
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2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
It was a good game. Teams seem to be handling Vick better than before, although it still isn't enough. He's actually throwing interceptions now at least. I fear for Vick every time he takes a hit.
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On December 03 2010 08:03 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 07:57 Hawk wrote:On December 02 2010 09:31 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On December 02 2010 06:26 Curu wrote:On December 02 2010 05:57 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On December 02 2010 04:39 Curu wrote:
Something to consider:
Due to Larry Fitzgerald's ridiculously elevated rookie contract (he got an insane amount of money added on from incentives no one thought he would make), Fitz was able to get a new contract that had a lot of clauses favourable for him.
He's able to opt out of the last year of his contract, which means he can become an unrestricted free agent at the end of this year. He also has a no trade clause so he can go wherever he likes AND a clause that ensures the Cardinals cannot franchise tag him.
In short, Fitzgerald can potentially go to whatever team is interested in him that he wants after this season. And considering just how brutal Arizona's QBs are (NOTHING IS FUNNY TO DEREK ANDERSON) and his comments about not wanting to eat out of the garbage after tasting the caviar, I think it might be pretty likely that he opts out.
I think he'd go for a team with a legit QB and playoff aspirations. Some of these are:
Colts - doubtful, Peyton's already got Reggie but still possible, they have a lot of money tied up in that offense though and would probably be better off with a RB
Patriots - actually pretty doable if Belichick is willing to pay him. "Hey Larry, think you can top 23?"
Chargers - Looks like a real possibility with Vincent Jackson probably walking, Rivers to Fitz oh my
Steelers - a possibility with Holmes gone and Ward getting up there in years
Chiefs - Fitz has mentioned repeatedly that he absolutely loves Todd Haley so this is a real possibility even with Bowe there
Rams - not as good as the other teams but Bradford is looking hella good, plus he gets to go torment the Cardinals twice a year
Packers - They already have a lot tied up into that passing game plus the cold weather might be a turn off, need a running game way more anyways
Falcons - As a Falcons fan, I jizz my pants thinking of the possibility, still we have a lot of money tied long-term in Roddy and Jenkins already plus I don't think Fitz wants to be 1b
Saints - Oh shit
I hate how little respect Chicago gets. There's no reason to not list them there. Yeah the Bears are a contender but their O is much less of a sure thing. Cutler has been fairly inconsistent and that OLine is atrocious. I don't know if Fitz passes up playing with a safer QB and out of the cold climate. No, see, it's exactly that ignorant stand point that I hate. The Bears are a couple of good linemen (which can be done in a single draft), and a WR away from being a great offense. That's been the Bear's MO post Super Bowl. The line got old and fell apart and that was it. It's hardly that easy to fix. You know how long the Niners were trying to add an O-Line and a good WR? Fuck, Alex Smith would be good enough to get to the playoffs if anyone can block. They finally got two OL last year that may be good enough, but there were MANY terrible drafts/signings for OL/WR for the Niners. Right, but how long did it take Cleveland, Denver, or Miami to improve their line? Miami and Denver, one year. Cleveland had about two good years after Joe Thomas was drafted, then they got shitty again, and are good again now. You're talking about two of the worst teams, in terms of drafting, in recent years. Of course they take forever to build good lines. Watch the Colts' line not have these issues next season.
Are you telling me that the Bears draft well offensively?????
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Hahaha, I love the stupidity of the "TL;DR" and ad hominems on the last page.
On December 03 2010 09:39 DannyJ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 09:02 Souma wrote:
I'm getting kind of worried. They're saying Westbrook is being hampered by an injury. Although I didn't plan on him doing much this week, I hope he resumes a full starting role during playoffs, because someone picked up Anthony Dixon. Brian Westbrook injured? Who could have possibly imagined such a thing...
Speaking of injuries, what surprised me more was how long Gore went without his yearly season-ending injury. This makes 7 in a row, yes?
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On December 03 2010 23:54 Hawk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 08:03 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On December 03 2010 07:57 Hawk wrote:On December 02 2010 09:31 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On December 02 2010 06:26 Curu wrote:On December 02 2010 05:57 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On December 02 2010 04:39 Curu wrote:
Something to consider:
Due to Larry Fitzgerald's ridiculously elevated rookie contract (he got an insane amount of money added on from incentives no one thought he would make), Fitz was able to get a new contract that had a lot of clauses favourable for him.
He's able to opt out of the last year of his contract, which means he can become an unrestricted free agent at the end of this year. He also has a no trade clause so he can go wherever he likes AND a clause that ensures the Cardinals cannot franchise tag him.
In short, Fitzgerald can potentially go to whatever team is interested in him that he wants after this season. And considering just how brutal Arizona's QBs are (NOTHING IS FUNNY TO DEREK ANDERSON) and his comments about not wanting to eat out of the garbage after tasting the caviar, I think it might be pretty likely that he opts out.
I think he'd go for a team with a legit QB and playoff aspirations. Some of these are:
Colts - doubtful, Peyton's already got Reggie but still possible, they have a lot of money tied up in that offense though and would probably be better off with a RB
Patriots - actually pretty doable if Belichick is willing to pay him. "Hey Larry, think you can top 23?"
Chargers - Looks like a real possibility with Vincent Jackson probably walking, Rivers to Fitz oh my
Steelers - a possibility with Holmes gone and Ward getting up there in years
Chiefs - Fitz has mentioned repeatedly that he absolutely loves Todd Haley so this is a real possibility even with Bowe there
Rams - not as good as the other teams but Bradford is looking hella good, plus he gets to go torment the Cardinals twice a year
Packers - They already have a lot tied up into that passing game plus the cold weather might be a turn off, need a running game way more anyways
Falcons - As a Falcons fan, I jizz my pants thinking of the possibility, still we have a lot of money tied long-term in Roddy and Jenkins already plus I don't think Fitz wants to be 1b
Saints - Oh shit
I hate how little respect Chicago gets. There's no reason to not list them there. Yeah the Bears are a contender but their O is much less of a sure thing. Cutler has been fairly inconsistent and that OLine is atrocious. I don't know if Fitz passes up playing with a safer QB and out of the cold climate. No, see, it's exactly that ignorant stand point that I hate. The Bears are a couple of good linemen (which can be done in a single draft), and a WR away from being a great offense. That's been the Bear's MO post Super Bowl. The line got old and fell apart and that was it. It's hardly that easy to fix. You know how long the Niners were trying to add an O-Line and a good WR? Fuck, Alex Smith would be good enough to get to the playoffs if anyone can block. They finally got two OL last year that may be good enough, but there were MANY terrible drafts/signings for OL/WR for the Niners. Right, but how long did it take Cleveland, Denver, or Miami to improve their line? Miami and Denver, one year. Cleveland had about two good years after Joe Thomas was drafted, then they got shitty again, and are good again now. You're talking about two of the worst teams, in terms of drafting, in recent years. Of course they take forever to build good lines. Watch the Colts' line not have these issues next season. Are you telling me that the Bears draft well offensively?????
Well, no, I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying it's entirely possible that they get two quality OL in the draft. Even if they landed a good LT, they would be a lot better off. It's not entirely out of the question that they could get ONE good lineman. It's not impossible for them to get two good linemen. Put two good linemen on the team, and a good WR, and the team could be great.
My question is, why do you have to shit on my dreams?
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On December 04 2010 08:57 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 23:54 Hawk wrote:On December 03 2010 08:03 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On December 03 2010 07:57 Hawk wrote:On December 02 2010 09:31 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On December 02 2010 06:26 Curu wrote:On December 02 2010 05:57 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On December 02 2010 04:39 Curu wrote:
Something to consider:
Due to Larry Fitzgerald's ridiculously elevated rookie contract (he got an insane amount of money added on from incentives no one thought he would make), Fitz was able to get a new contract that had a lot of clauses favourable for him.
He's able to opt out of the last year of his contract, which means he can become an unrestricted free agent at the end of this year. He also has a no trade clause so he can go wherever he likes AND a clause that ensures the Cardinals cannot franchise tag him.
In short, Fitzgerald can potentially go to whatever team is interested in him that he wants after this season. And considering just how brutal Arizona's QBs are (NOTHING IS FUNNY TO DEREK ANDERSON) and his comments about not wanting to eat out of the garbage after tasting the caviar, I think it might be pretty likely that he opts out.
I think he'd go for a team with a legit QB and playoff aspirations. Some of these are:
Colts - doubtful, Peyton's already got Reggie but still possible, they have a lot of money tied up in that offense though and would probably be better off with a RB
Patriots - actually pretty doable if Belichick is willing to pay him. "Hey Larry, think you can top 23?"
Chargers - Looks like a real possibility with Vincent Jackson probably walking, Rivers to Fitz oh my
Steelers - a possibility with Holmes gone and Ward getting up there in years
Chiefs - Fitz has mentioned repeatedly that he absolutely loves Todd Haley so this is a real possibility even with Bowe there
Rams - not as good as the other teams but Bradford is looking hella good, plus he gets to go torment the Cardinals twice a year
Packers - They already have a lot tied up into that passing game plus the cold weather might be a turn off, need a running game way more anyways
Falcons - As a Falcons fan, I jizz my pants thinking of the possibility, still we have a lot of money tied long-term in Roddy and Jenkins already plus I don't think Fitz wants to be 1b
Saints - Oh shit
I hate how little respect Chicago gets. There's no reason to not list them there. Yeah the Bears are a contender but their O is much less of a sure thing. Cutler has been fairly inconsistent and that OLine is atrocious. I don't know if Fitz passes up playing with a safer QB and out of the cold climate. No, see, it's exactly that ignorant stand point that I hate. The Bears are a couple of good linemen (which can be done in a single draft), and a WR away from being a great offense. That's been the Bear's MO post Super Bowl. The line got old and fell apart and that was it. It's hardly that easy to fix. You know how long the Niners were trying to add an O-Line and a good WR? Fuck, Alex Smith would be good enough to get to the playoffs if anyone can block. They finally got two OL last year that may be good enough, but there were MANY terrible drafts/signings for OL/WR for the Niners. Right, but how long did it take Cleveland, Denver, or Miami to improve their line? Miami and Denver, one year. Cleveland had about two good years after Joe Thomas was drafted, then they got shitty again, and are good again now. You're talking about two of the worst teams, in terms of drafting, in recent years. Of course they take forever to build good lines. Watch the Colts' line not have these issues next season. Are you telling me that the Bears draft well offensively????? Well, no, I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying it's entirely possible that they get two quality OL in the draft. Even if they landed a good LT, they would be a lot better off. It's not entirely out of the question that they could get ONE good lineman. It's not impossible for them to get two good linemen. Put two good linemen on the team, and a good WR, and the team could be great. My question is, why do you have to shit on my dreams?
It's cause you be spittin' hate all the time haha
*edit*
And because he roots for the 49ers who have no hope so he has to bring everyone down too
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On December 04 2010 02:20 Craton wrote:Hahaha, I love the stupidity of the "TL;DR" and ad hominems on the last page. Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 09:39 DannyJ wrote:On December 03 2010 09:02 Souma wrote:
I'm getting kind of worried. They're saying Westbrook is being hampered by an injury. Although I didn't plan on him doing much this week, I hope he resumes a full starting role during playoffs, because someone picked up Anthony Dixon. Brian Westbrook injured? Who could have possibly imagined such a thing... Speaking of injuries, what surprised me more was how long Gore went without his yearly season-ending injury. This makes 7 in a row, yes?
So, I tried to take it to PM's, but you don't want to play with me, so I'll make it public instead.
Call it what you want, but your assessment was absolutely incorrect on the picture in the NFC West. It's one of the most ill-informed opinions I've read in the over two thousand replies in this thread. It's as if you didn't bother to think at all before you put that into text. Seriously, they had a harder record? That's just dumb. I'd like to be nicer about it, but it's just dumb. Unless you run into a fan that is really dedicated, you'll find almost no one to agree with your standpoint.
Ignorant: lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact.
Despite you saying in the PM that I'm "oblivious to why someone should be able to play the WW," I'm not. I understand why they do it. Some people like to spoil other people's seasons; sometimes someone asked them to grab a player so competition couldn't; sometimes they want to pretend they can still be competitive.
My complaint isn't whether or not they should be ABLE to, it's whether or not they should actually take part. Your season is over, and there is little to no reason to continue playing when your season is guaranteed over. What for? Pride? Pride in a team that gets redrafted the next season. There's no point, unless you're a dick and want to ruin someone's season... except in this case all the playoff spots are locked down already, except for one, and he doesn't play either of those teams... So, what's the point? Get a high week? With a HB that won't play on your roster? Steal it away from a team that could use it to maybe make their team weaker? Why? You don't know who was going for it, maybe your friend wanted the player to replace the one scrub he has on his bench... unless it was a collusion, which is frowned upon (though not strictly illegal). I see no reasonable reason to do it. It's not a matter of knowledge, it's just an opposing opinion, because I'm more than aware of the reasons one might do what he did. By the way, none of the reasoning holds up here, except collusion.
All that said, you should study up on football during the off season, and for the last weeks of this season. It'll help you discuss actual football topics and not just call something "ignorant" and then ignore all the counter points to your conversation about real football.
On December 04 2010 09:37 KOFgokuon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 08:57 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On December 03 2010 23:54 Hawk wrote:On December 03 2010 08:03 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On December 03 2010 07:57 Hawk wrote:On December 02 2010 09:31 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On December 02 2010 06:26 Curu wrote:On December 02 2010 05:57 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On December 02 2010 04:39 Curu wrote:
Something to consider:
Due to Larry Fitzgerald's ridiculously elevated rookie contract (he got an insane amount of money added on from incentives no one thought he would make), Fitz was able to get a new contract that had a lot of clauses favourable for him.
He's able to opt out of the last year of his contract, which means he can become an unrestricted free agent at the end of this year. He also has a no trade clause so he can go wherever he likes AND a clause that ensures the Cardinals cannot franchise tag him.
In short, Fitzgerald can potentially go to whatever team is interested in him that he wants after this season. And considering just how brutal Arizona's QBs are (NOTHING IS FUNNY TO DEREK ANDERSON) and his comments about not wanting to eat out of the garbage after tasting the caviar, I think it might be pretty likely that he opts out.
I think he'd go for a team with a legit QB and playoff aspirations. Some of these are:
Colts - doubtful, Peyton's already got Reggie but still possible, they have a lot of money tied up in that offense though and would probably be better off with a RB
Patriots - actually pretty doable if Belichick is willing to pay him. "Hey Larry, think you can top 23?"
Chargers - Looks like a real possibility with Vincent Jackson probably walking, Rivers to Fitz oh my
Steelers - a possibility with Holmes gone and Ward getting up there in years
Chiefs - Fitz has mentioned repeatedly that he absolutely loves Todd Haley so this is a real possibility even with Bowe there
Rams - not as good as the other teams but Bradford is looking hella good, plus he gets to go torment the Cardinals twice a year
Packers - They already have a lot tied up into that passing game plus the cold weather might be a turn off, need a running game way more anyways
Falcons - As a Falcons fan, I jizz my pants thinking of the possibility, still we have a lot of money tied long-term in Roddy and Jenkins already plus I don't think Fitz wants to be 1b
Saints - Oh shit
I hate how little respect Chicago gets. There's no reason to not list them there. Yeah the Bears are a contender but their O is much less of a sure thing. Cutler has been fairly inconsistent and that OLine is atrocious. I don't know if Fitz passes up playing with a safer QB and out of the cold climate. No, see, it's exactly that ignorant stand point that I hate. The Bears are a couple of good linemen (which can be done in a single draft), and a WR away from being a great offense. That's been the Bear's MO post Super Bowl. The line got old and fell apart and that was it. It's hardly that easy to fix. You know how long the Niners were trying to add an O-Line and a good WR? Fuck, Alex Smith would be good enough to get to the playoffs if anyone can block. They finally got two OL last year that may be good enough, but there were MANY terrible drafts/signings for OL/WR for the Niners. Right, but how long did it take Cleveland, Denver, or Miami to improve their line? Miami and Denver, one year. Cleveland had about two good years after Joe Thomas was drafted, then they got shitty again, and are good again now. You're talking about two of the worst teams, in terms of drafting, in recent years. Of course they take forever to build good lines. Watch the Colts' line not have these issues next season. Are you telling me that the Bears draft well offensively????? Well, no, I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying it's entirely possible that they get two quality OL in the draft. Even if they landed a good LT, they would be a lot better off. It's not entirely out of the question that they could get ONE good lineman. It's not impossible for them to get two good linemen. Put two good linemen on the team, and a good WR, and the team could be great. My question is, why do you have to shit on my dreams? It's cause you be spittin' hate all the time haha *edit* And because he roots for the 49ers who have no hope so he has to bring everyone down too
Well, I wouldn't say "all" the time. Just a lot of it. I spread a lot of love to players and teams that help me accomplish my goals.
On December 03 2010 14:41 Souma wrote:
It was a good game. Teams seem to be handling Vick better than before, although it still isn't enough. He's actually throwing interceptions now at least. I fear for Vick every time he takes a hit.
They're really just handling him better than the Redskins did. The thing is, it's hard to not handle him better than the Redskins.
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ESPNNewYork.com is reporting that New York Jets’ safety Jeff Leonhard suffered a tibia fracture. He reportedly suffered a “freak collision” in today’s practice. He reportedly will undergo surgery later tonight.
Well that's a shitty way to end your season.
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It really would be interesting how Kolb would do for the Eagles now. Certainly not as good as Vick, but the O-line is clearly better than it was when poor Kolb played earlier in the season. He had to run around like a headless chicken just so he didnt get smashed most snaps.
and dear God i knew the Eagles had trouble in the red zone offensively (they always have under Reid) but i didn't know they were also TERRIBLE (like record breaking terrible) defensively in the red zone. That can't be a good stat to have going into the playoffs.
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I think they really need a bruiser to up their chances of getting into the endzone. I may be wrong but I haven't seen any real power runner pushing it forward for the Eagles.
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Yeah there's no big bruiser (as always in philly), but there also isn't really a big WR either. Vick can't just chuck a ball to the corner and have someone like Larry Fitz go grab it. Reilly Cooper is the biggest guy they have. The speed and agility that propels the eagles down the field better than any other team stalls them when they actually get to the endzone.
Still, you'd think with Vicks running skills you could do more. Alot of it is questionable play calling. It has been for almost a decade near the red zone with Andy Reid.
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On December 04 2010 10:03 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 02:20 Craton wrote:Hahaha, I love the stupidity of the "TL;DR" and ad hominems on the last page. On December 03 2010 09:39 DannyJ wrote:On December 03 2010 09:02 Souma wrote:
I'm getting kind of worried. They're saying Westbrook is being hampered by an injury. Although I didn't plan on him doing much this week, I hope he resumes a full starting role during playoffs, because someone picked up Anthony Dixon. Brian Westbrook injured? Who could have possibly imagined such a thing... Speaking of injuries, what surprised me more was how long Gore went without his yearly season-ending injury. This makes 7 in a row, yes? So, I tried to take it to PM's, but you don't want to play with me, so I'll make it public instead. Call it what you want, but your assessment was absolutely incorrect on the picture in the NFC West. It's one of the most ill-informed opinions I've read in the over two thousand replies in this thread. It's as if you didn't bother to think at all before you put that into text. Seriously, they had a harder record? That's just dumb. I'd like to be nicer about it, but it's just dumb. Unless you run into a fan that is really dedicated, you'll find almost no one to agree with your standpoint. Ignorant: lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact. Despite you saying in the PM that I'm "oblivious to why someone should be able to play the WW," I'm not. I understand why they do it. Some people like to spoil other people's seasons; sometimes someone asked them to grab a player so competition couldn't; sometimes they want to pretend they can still be competitive. My complaint isn't whether or not they should be ABLE to, it's whether or not they should actually take part. Your season is over, and there is little to no reason to continue playing when your season is guaranteed over. What for? Pride? Pride in a team that gets redrafted the next season. There's no point, unless you're a dick and want to ruin someone's season... except in this case all the playoff spots are locked down already, except for one, and he doesn't play either of those teams... So, what's the point? Get a high week? With a HB that won't play on your roster? Steal it away from a team that could use it to maybe make their team weaker? Why? You don't know who was going for it, maybe your friend wanted the player to replace the one scrub he has on his bench... unless it was a collusion, which is frowned upon (though not strictly illegal). I see no reasonable reason to do it. It's not a matter of knowledge, it's just an opposing opinion, because I'm more than aware of the reasons one might do what he did. By the way, none of the reasoning holds up here, except collusion. All that said, you should study up on football during the off season, and for the last weeks of this season. It'll help you discuss actual football topics and not just call something "ignorant" and then ignore all the counter points to your conversation about real football. Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 09:37 KOFgokuon wrote:On December 04 2010 08:57 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On December 03 2010 23:54 Hawk wrote:On December 03 2010 08:03 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On December 03 2010 07:57 Hawk wrote:On December 02 2010 09:31 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On December 02 2010 06:26 Curu wrote:On December 02 2010 05:57 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On December 02 2010 04:39 Curu wrote:
Something to consider:
Due to Larry Fitzgerald's ridiculously elevated rookie contract (he got an insane amount of money added on from incentives no one thought he would make), Fitz was able to get a new contract that had a lot of clauses favourable for him.
He's able to opt out of the last year of his contract, which means he can become an unrestricted free agent at the end of this year. He also has a no trade clause so he can go wherever he likes AND a clause that ensures the Cardinals cannot franchise tag him.
In short, Fitzgerald can potentially go to whatever team is interested in him that he wants after this season. And considering just how brutal Arizona's QBs are (NOTHING IS FUNNY TO DEREK ANDERSON) and his comments about not wanting to eat out of the garbage after tasting the caviar, I think it might be pretty likely that he opts out.
I think he'd go for a team with a legit QB and playoff aspirations. Some of these are:
Colts - doubtful, Peyton's already got Reggie but still possible, they have a lot of money tied up in that offense though and would probably be better off with a RB
Patriots - actually pretty doable if Belichick is willing to pay him. "Hey Larry, think you can top 23?"
Chargers - Looks like a real possibility with Vincent Jackson probably walking, Rivers to Fitz oh my
Steelers - a possibility with Holmes gone and Ward getting up there in years
Chiefs - Fitz has mentioned repeatedly that he absolutely loves Todd Haley so this is a real possibility even with Bowe there
Rams - not as good as the other teams but Bradford is looking hella good, plus he gets to go torment the Cardinals twice a year
Packers - They already have a lot tied up into that passing game plus the cold weather might be a turn off, need a running game way more anyways
Falcons - As a Falcons fan, I jizz my pants thinking of the possibility, still we have a lot of money tied long-term in Roddy and Jenkins already plus I don't think Fitz wants to be 1b
Saints - Oh shit
I hate how little respect Chicago gets. There's no reason to not list them there. Yeah the Bears are a contender but their O is much less of a sure thing. Cutler has been fairly inconsistent and that OLine is atrocious. I don't know if Fitz passes up playing with a safer QB and out of the cold climate. No, see, it's exactly that ignorant stand point that I hate. The Bears are a couple of good linemen (which can be done in a single draft), and a WR away from being a great offense. That's been the Bear's MO post Super Bowl. The line got old and fell apart and that was it. It's hardly that easy to fix. You know how long the Niners were trying to add an O-Line and a good WR? Fuck, Alex Smith would be good enough to get to the playoffs if anyone can block. They finally got two OL last year that may be good enough, but there were MANY terrible drafts/signings for OL/WR for the Niners. Right, but how long did it take Cleveland, Denver, or Miami to improve their line? Miami and Denver, one year. Cleveland had about two good years after Joe Thomas was drafted, then they got shitty again, and are good again now. You're talking about two of the worst teams, in terms of drafting, in recent years. Of course they take forever to build good lines. Watch the Colts' line not have these issues next season. Are you telling me that the Bears draft well offensively????? Well, no, I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying it's entirely possible that they get two quality OL in the draft. Even if they landed a good LT, they would be a lot better off. It's not entirely out of the question that they could get ONE good lineman. It's not impossible for them to get two good linemen. Put two good linemen on the team, and a good WR, and the team could be great. My question is, why do you have to shit on my dreams? It's cause you be spittin' hate all the time haha *edit* And because he roots for the 49ers who have no hope so he has to bring everyone down too Well, I wouldn't say "all" the time. Just a lot of it. I spread a lot of love to players and teams that help me accomplish my goals. Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 14:41 Souma wrote:
It was a good game. Teams seem to be handling Vick better than before, although it still isn't enough. He's actually throwing interceptions now at least. I fear for Vick every time he takes a hit. They're really just handling him better than the Redskins did. The thing is, it's hard to not handle him better than the Redskins.
ehhhhhhh I still think that if you were one of the teams fighting for a playoff spot, and your opponent picked up a good player because everyone who was "out of the running" and had higher waiver priority didn't bother to pay attention anymore, you'd be just as pissed =p
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+ Show Spoiler +On December 04 2010 12:18 KOFgokuon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 10:03 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On December 04 2010 02:20 Craton wrote:Hahaha, I love the stupidity of the "TL;DR" and ad hominems on the last page. On December 03 2010 09:39 DannyJ wrote:On December 03 2010 09:02 Souma wrote:
I'm getting kind of worried. They're saying Westbrook is being hampered by an injury. Although I didn't plan on him doing much this week, I hope he resumes a full starting role during playoffs, because someone picked up Anthony Dixon. Brian Westbrook injured? Who could have possibly imagined such a thing... Speaking of injuries, what surprised me more was how long Gore went without his yearly season-ending injury. This makes 7 in a row, yes? So, I tried to take it to PM's, but you don't want to play with me, so I'll make it public instead. Call it what you want, but your assessment was absolutely incorrect on the picture in the NFC West. It's one of the most ill-informed opinions I've read in the over two thousand replies in this thread. It's as if you didn't bother to think at all before you put that into text. Seriously, they had a harder record? That's just dumb. I'd like to be nicer about it, but it's just dumb. Unless you run into a fan that is really dedicated, you'll find almost no one to agree with your standpoint. Ignorant: lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact. Despite you saying in the PM that I'm "oblivious to why someone should be able to play the WW," I'm not. I understand why they do it. Some people like to spoil other people's seasons; sometimes someone asked them to grab a player so competition couldn't; sometimes they want to pretend they can still be competitive. My complaint isn't whether or not they should be ABLE to, it's whether or not they should actually take part. Your season is over, and there is little to no reason to continue playing when your season is guaranteed over. What for? Pride? Pride in a team that gets redrafted the next season. There's no point, unless you're a dick and want to ruin someone's season... except in this case all the playoff spots are locked down already, except for one, and he doesn't play either of those teams... So, what's the point? Get a high week? With a HB that won't play on your roster? Steal it away from a team that could use it to maybe make their team weaker? Why? You don't know who was going for it, maybe your friend wanted the player to replace the one scrub he has on his bench... unless it was a collusion, which is frowned upon (though not strictly illegal). I see no reasonable reason to do it. It's not a matter of knowledge, it's just an opposing opinion, because I'm more than aware of the reasons one might do what he did. By the way, none of the reasoning holds up here, except collusion. All that said, you should study up on football during the off season, and for the last weeks of this season. It'll help you discuss actual football topics and not just call something "ignorant" and then ignore all the counter points to your conversation about real football. On December 04 2010 09:37 KOFgokuon wrote:On December 04 2010 08:57 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On December 03 2010 23:54 Hawk wrote:On December 03 2010 08:03 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On December 03 2010 07:57 Hawk wrote:On December 02 2010 09:31 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On December 02 2010 06:26 Curu wrote:On December 02 2010 05:57 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
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I hate how little respect Chicago gets. There's no reason to not list them there. Yeah the Bears are a contender but their O is much less of a sure thing. Cutler has been fairly inconsistent and that OLine is atrocious. I don't know if Fitz passes up playing with a safer QB and out of the cold climate. No, see, it's exactly that ignorant stand point that I hate. The Bears are a couple of good linemen (which can be done in a single draft), and a WR away from being a great offense. That's been the Bear's MO post Super Bowl. The line got old and fell apart and that was it. It's hardly that easy to fix. You know how long the Niners were trying to add an O-Line and a good WR? Fuck, Alex Smith would be good enough to get to the playoffs if anyone can block. They finally got two OL last year that may be good enough, but there were MANY terrible drafts/signings for OL/WR for the Niners. Right, but how long did it take Cleveland, Denver, or Miami to improve their line? Miami and Denver, one year. Cleveland had about two good years after Joe Thomas was drafted, then they got shitty again, and are good again now. You're talking about two of the worst teams, in terms of drafting, in recent years. Of course they take forever to build good lines. Watch the Colts' line not have these issues next season. Are you telling me that the Bears draft well offensively????? Well, no, I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying it's entirely possible that they get two quality OL in the draft. Even if they landed a good LT, they would be a lot better off. It's not entirely out of the question that they could get ONE good lineman. It's not impossible for them to get two good linemen. Put two good linemen on the team, and a good WR, and the team could be great. My question is, why do you have to shit on my dreams? It's cause you be spittin' hate all the time haha *edit* And because he roots for the 49ers who have no hope so he has to bring everyone down too Well, I wouldn't say "all" the time. Just a lot of it. I spread a lot of love to players and teams that help me accomplish my goals. On December 03 2010 14:41 Souma wrote:
It was a good game. Teams seem to be handling Vick better than before, although it still isn't enough. He's actually throwing interceptions now at least. I fear for Vick every time he takes a hit. They're really just handling him better than the Redskins did. The thing is, it's hard to not handle him better than the Redskins. ehhhhhhh I still think that if you were one of the teams fighting for a playoff spot, and your opponent picked up a good player because everyone who was "out of the running" and had higher waiver priority didn't bother to pay attention anymore, you'd be just as pissed =p
I'm basically displeased with anything that has a negative affect on my chances of winning. I wouldn't be as mad though, because my first year (3-11), I stopped playing WW in like week 7 when I was 1-6. I did take place in a bit of collusion, though, because there was money involved for me. But it was trading, I think Colston, for a couple of middle level guys. It was a moderate to bad trade on my end.
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On December 04 2010 12:11 DannyJ wrote:
Yeah there's no big bruiser (as always in philly), but there also isn't really a big WR either. Vick can't just chuck a ball to the corner and have someone like Larry Fitz go grab it. Reilly Cooper is the biggest guy they have. The speed and agility that propels the eagles down the field better than any other team stalls them when they actually get to the endzone.
Still, you'd think with Vicks running skills you could do more. Alot of it is questionable play calling. It has been for almost a decade near the red zone with Andy Reid.
In fairness, Vick has had about seven dropped touchdown passes. The offensive line is the main problem behind their red zone woes, most likely. You need a powerful O-line when you get down there, or a great blocking scheme. They don't seem to zone block (I can't really tell the difference on the TV, but I'm guessing they don't, given the type of running plays they choose), and they don't seem to be very powerful. So, without a huge target (Celek should be that guy right now, imo), or a powerful O-Line, or a Bettis/Jacobs type HB, you'll have problems in the RZ.
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Yeah... I think Jason Avant alone has like 5 dropped TD passes this year.
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