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althaz
Australia1001 Posts
Glad I read this post before wasting my time downloading this, lol  . If you can't unlock the highest level of whatever with all the upgrades in less than 3-400 games (that's probably 1-2 years of playtime MINIMUM for somebody like me with a full-time job and two kids), there's no point to this for casuals, IMO.I haven't even played 3k games of frickin' Starcraft 2 yet and I'm OBSESSED with Starcraft. | ||
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
On May 07 2013 19:06 Yuljan wrote: Are the russians devs still overpowering russian tanks? Can't tell yet, just started playing again yesterday, IS3 certainly feels stronk, but not really too strong. My E-75 is op as usual (god i love that tank), my arty instagibs everything (well, almost - my T92 does though), so i guess "powerbalance" hasn't really changed. edit Glad I read this post before wasting my time downloading this, lol . If you can't unlock the highest level of whatever with all the upgrades in less than 3-400 games (that's probably 1-2 years of playtime MINIMUM for somebody like me with a full-time job and two kids), there's no point to this for casuals, IMO. I haven't even played 3k games of frickin' Starcraft 2 yet and I'm OBSESSED with Starcraft. I have a fulltime job as well (no kids, but clanmates do have some), yet i have two T10s unlocked, including alot of T9s and round about every T6 tank in the game (except the newer ones). If you play premium and play good, you can get a T10 in ~700 games. 300 games are done in no time, even with family. If you would need 300 games, you'd have to spend only what, 30 games per tank? I could do that in two hours (not really, but you get the point). That would be utterly stupid, because also there would be no-one playing lower tiers. If you can't manage 300 games (max 15 minutes each, most of them shorter) in 2 years, yeah, it's not the game for you. But i think you're bullshitting there, sorry. Not that i would want to protect WoT, alot is wrong there, but THAT is not the problem. Especially not if you exaggerate like that. Don't take it personally, but yeah.. If you're a casual, you don't need T10 tanks. Since you can't sustain them properly anyway (you need to play good for that, as in experience what other tanks can and cannot do, like gun elevation, alpha, dpm, speed, turning rates, weakspots etc). You can have fun with T5-T6 as well, ESL even has a league for these. | ||
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Lysteria
France2280 Posts
On May 07 2013 19:18 althaz wrote: I haven't even played 3k games of frickin' Starcraft 2 yet and I'm OBSESSED with Starcraft. Yeah, it's a maximum of 15 minutes per game, considering you almost never go for those 15 min. Most of the game, you die or the game is over before that. You can't really compare Starcraft to WoT. With 1 hour, you can play around 8-10 games, less when you become better at the game. And like another one said, you don't have to play T10 to have fun. A lot of T5-T6 are awesome. | ||
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Zealos
United Kingdom3576 Posts
On May 07 2013 19:41 Lysteria wrote: Yeah, it's a maximum of 15 minutes per game, considering you almost never go for those 15 min. Most of the game, you die or the game is over before that. You can't really compare Starcraft to WoT. With 1 hour, you can play around 8-10 games, less when you become better at the game. And like another one said, you don't have to play T10 to have fun. A lot of T5-T6 are awesome. Add to this: I've had an awesome time with a friend downgrading to T2-3 BT-7's ect. Speeding around the map picking people off is great fun. There's no innate reason that you need T10 to have fun, and if you find that you need to "grind" games to get to said tier, then it isn't the game for you. (Each match should be fun, not a grind) | ||
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Lysteria
France2280 Posts
On May 07 2013 19:46 Zealos wrote: (Each match should be fun, not a grind) Especially since you can go for some insane runs with lower tiers (from T1 to T7-T8?), since after that you need to play seriously to sustain your money. Some tanks are terrible, and you feel like you have to grind, but when you have a good one... Time flies so fast. Hetzer. | ||
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
Worst grind in the game, by a mile. I'd rather grind M3 Lee 12 times than to grind that hetzer at that time. | ||
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Zealos
United Kingdom3576 Posts
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tyr
France1686 Posts
It used to be a better tank than what it is now. Well unless you use HEAT of course. | ||
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
On May 07 2013 22:56 tyr wrote: Hetzer's 105 got nerfed ever since so .. I disagree. It used to be a better tank than what it is now. Well unless you use HEAT of course. So you actually never played it with its old engine (and broken gunmantle). Because the gun would not count on a hetzer, you never really made it to the battlefield. | ||
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Estonia801 Posts
On May 07 2013 18:26 Broetchenholer wrote: Ok, started this game on a weekend-lan and can't stop playing. Fuck! Quick question: Why is the matchmaking so super retarted? I've got one friend with premium, T10 tanks and fully upgraded T2 and T3s. So, he is pretty strong in our low-level games. Rest is as noob as me. Now, we have reached Tier 4 and there is no more incentive to play this whatsoever. If we start with a T28, a A-20 and a Hetzer (med, light, AT all Tier 4) we get matched against Tier 7 and Tier 8 opponents. Of course, they will have 3 lows as well. But where is the fun in getting oneshotted by their scouts as a medium? I get that a T4 scout can work around being in a game with T8s, as he can't fight heavies anyway. But if i play anti-tank, get 5 perfect shots at the enemy heavy, get 5 times the message that my shot did ricochet off or did not even scratch him and then i see the turret turning slowly to me and i evaporate in 0,1 seconds, then this game is no fun at all. Is there a trick to play vs T4 as T4 premade? The battle tier for platoons is higher, than for single person. However, you will not always play against high tier tanks. http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/Battle_Mechanics#Platoons | ||
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
On May 08 2013 00:58 v1 wrote: The battle tier for platoons is higher, than for single person. However, you will not always play against high tier tanks. http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/Battle_Mechanics#Platoons If they queue with an A-20 (or other T4/T5 lights for that matter), they will. Occasionally you'll get a low tier match, but that's rare. The problem is not the platoon-system but the fact that light tanks count as scouts and have a matchmaking up to T8 for a T4 tank. My tip: whoever drives the A-20 should switch to another T4 (if its the premium guy), or you just have to grind through it until he gets the T-34, which has a way better matchmaking (since it's a T5 medium, which don't count as scouts). Same would go btw for arties, low tier arties get matchmaking like this as well (Lorrain 39 and AMX105 AM were so bad, doing ~2-3% damage to a heavy IF it didnt bounce it in the first place coupled with high reload times, .. fun). | ||
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tyr
France1686 Posts
On May 07 2013 22:57 m4inbrain wrote: So you actually never played it with its old engine (and broken gunmantle). Because the gun would not count on a hetzer, you never really made it to the battlefield. I ... did play it pretty early in the closed beta and again in the release. I stand by my words. :o | ||
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
On May 08 2013 02:15 tyr wrote: I ... did play it pretty early in the closed beta and again in the release. I stand by my words. :o Was voted worst tank/grind two times, and i agree on that. Guess it's preference, i like my tanks.. moving. And hitting stuff. ^^ Edit: that's why i like the StugIII so much.  | ||
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tyr
France1686 Posts
It's just that I remember at least three tanks that I really hated grinding. M3 Lee, T-28, and the T1 Heavy (which I actually didn't even finish, I decided to go to the M6 through the jumbo and ragesold the T1). Compared to those, I did enjoy the hetzer. | ||
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
On May 08 2013 02:42 tyr wrote: The stug was indeed awesome, no argument there. I really enjoyed it as well. It's just that I remember at least three tanks that I really hated grinding. M3 Lee, T-28, and the T1 Heavy (which I actually didn't even finish, I decided to go to the M6 through the jumbo and ragesold the T1). Compared to those, I did enjoy the hetzer. I would trade two hetzers for a T-28 with ZiS. By far the most op tank in its tier. Well, if they didn't nerf it, quite a long while ago since i played it. Ragesold the T1 heavy as well, and used free-XP to unlock M6 with 90mm. ^^ I have to correct myself though, by far the worst grind ever is the Somua SAu-40. Played 6 games, sold it. That's by FAR the worst thing ever made. Loved the S-35 CA though, most op TD on T5 (47 games, 65 kills, 70% winrate^^) with the 105 derpgun ^^ | ||
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Duka08
3391 Posts
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
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bobbob
United States368 Posts
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
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bobbob
United States368 Posts
On May 08 2013 03:15 m4inbrain wrote: Main problem for me is the issue of Tier10 meds vs Tier10 heavies in matchmaking, rare to win with three top tier meds against three top tier heavies. It's better than being a T6 heavy in a T10 game. | ||
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