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is the intruder using something in the house?(that is relevant to the puzzle)
No
do the police know the owner is dead?
I believe so.
Did the intruder die within the house?
No. Neither did the owner (did you mean to ask that?)
Okay so you said the owner had recently died.. Was the owner murdered? Also, was the culprit someone who came to the house regularly and had no idea that the owner was dead? I'm thinking mail man or something.
Yes he was murdered. No to the second part, the culprit did not come regularly with no idea the owner was dead.
Is there anything different from this alarm than a standard home alarm?
No
Besides (possibly) breaking and entering, did the intruder commit another, more serious crime?
Yes
Did the owner of the house die before the break-ins started?
Yes
Did the intruder know he only had three days to do whatever he was doing?
No, he may have suspected it though.
If the intruder took something from the house, did that item arrive only on that day?
Yes
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I keep hitting post by accident instead of grabbing the text and going to edit my old post.
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The intruder was looking for something? Did he/she find what he/she was searching for? Did the intruder leave anything in the house?
I'm thinking it has something to do with a will or something. Lawyers, or people who do the estimates on value, or maybe a relative looking to see if he/she was on the will, or maybe planting a fake one.
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lol, 2ez. The owner of the town house was jesus and the intruder was a disciple checking to see if he had been resurrected during the night. On the third day he rose. Explains the time of day, relevance of method of death, why it was three days and who was visiting. Only one thing was missing/moved... JESUS.
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Did the intruder take anything from the house?
Yes
Did the intruder move anything from the house?
He clearly moved what he took, nothing else.
did the intruder have a key to the house?
No
was the intruder asked to enter the house by the deceased owner?
No
did the intruder know that the owner was dead?
Yes
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Is the intruder the same person that murdered the dead guy? If so, did the murderer/intruder kill the guy because he wanted whatever it was he took? Or did he take the item because the guy was dead?
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Did the owner of the house hire anyone to take care of the property? Housekeeper, gardner, etc.
Yeah
Is the intruder the same person that murdered the dead guy?
Yes.
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Was the thing he was waiting for a payoff for committing a hit on the owner?
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On July 13 2010 16:21 wurm wrote:
Was the thing he was waiting for a payoff for committing a hit on the owner?
No
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was the item hidden in an object triggered to open at certain times on certain days of the week?
was the time between the murder of the owner and the intruder's break ins longer than one month?
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Sorry, I edited in a few questions after I posted.
Did the killer / intruder kill the guy to get the item? To get an opportunity to get the item? Or is the fact that he was the same person irrelevant to the reasoning? Perhaps he accidentally killed the guy, and then decided he might as well take whatever it was? Did the intruder leave anything in the house? Maybe to replace what he took?
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Was the owner murdered at the intruder's house? In a public area?
Is the item valuable to anyone other than the intruder and the owner?
Does the intruder plan to keep the item? Destroy it? Sell it?
Would it be bad for the intruder if someone else found the item?
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was the item hidden in an object triggered to open at certain times on certain days of the week?
No
was the time between the murder of the owner and the intruder's break ins longer than one month?
No
Did the killer / intruder kill the guy to get the item? To get an opportunity to get the item? Or is the fact that he was the same person irrelevant to the reasoning? Perhaps he accidentally killed the guy, and then decided he might as well take whatever it was? Did the intruder leave anything in the house? Maybe to replace what he took?
It is relevant that they are the same. No to everything else.
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Was the owner murdered at the intruder's house? In a public area?
No and I don't know.
Is the item valuable to anyone other than the intruder and the owner?
Yes I would say
Does the intruder plan to keep the item? Destroy it? Sell it?
Yes to destroy it.
Would it be bad for the intruder if someone else found the item?
Yes
...ugh accidentally double posted yet again.
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did the item incriminate the intruder?
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Midway info collation post
We've done a lot of gumshoe legwork here, what's missing are the creative leaps of faith and logic to deduce the identity of the murderer and victim, if at all possible. Perhaps someone could check if I got it 100% correct?
The intruder murdered the victim before the break-ins. He had found out that something valuable was due to arrive or develop (by post, most probably) very soon. Every day at 11:30-12 noon, he broke in to check whether the victim had received the item. On the third day he found it and never came again.
Missing gaps in the story are the identity/relationship of both parties (if relevant), how the victim died, and the stolen item. Because this is a game and not real life, we can actually guess the answer to several clues with some accuracy by working backwards knowing that the story must make logical sense (in some twisted way).
For example, that the time of break-ins is a valid clue to the identity of the intruder, and he didn't just lie in wait for the postman one day to scope out the correct time for a routine mail delivery. If not, there would be absolutely zero clues. You'd need some creativity here, perhaps he's the ice cream truck driver who passes that street corner same time every day, or the mailman who notices rich Mr Jones gets a consignment of diamonds the first week of every month. What happens around noon every day?
The intruder must also have some relation to the victim, and not just some random hobo who overheard that he was expecting a valuable item to arrive via parcel post.
The clues we have that may be relevant are:
Is the time of the breakin relevant?
Yes
Did the owner of the house hire anyone to take care of the property? Housekeeper, gardner, etc.
Yeah
Was the owner the boss of the intruder?
No
Is there a will involved?
No
Was the intruder a coworker of the townhouse owner?
No
Is the item valuable to anyone other than the intruder and the owner?
Yes I would say
Does the intruder plan to keep the item? Destroy it? Sell it?
Yes to destroy it.
Would it be bad for the intruder if someone else found the item?
Yes
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was the item that the intruder wanted to destroy incriminating evidence?
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did the item incriminate the intruder?
I'm going to answer the question exactly as stated and say yes and not make any inferences about what meaning you place in it.
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Was the item used in the murder?
Does a Clock have anything to do with it?
Did the Intruder kill the owner for the item?
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On July 13 2010 16:58 tissue wrote:
For example, that the time of break-ins is a valid clue to the identity of the intruder, and he didn't just lie in wait for the postman one day to scope out the correct time for a routine mail delivery. If not, there would be absolutely zero clues. You'd need some creativity here, perhaps he's the ice cream truck driver who passes that street corner same time every day, or the mailman who notices rich Mr Jones gets a consignment of diamonds the first week of every month. What happens around noon every day?
I think maybe my answer about the time of day was confusing. At the point that was asked it wasn't clear that anything was to arrive, and that morning to early afternoon is the standard time for services that visit a house (I don't want say anything in particular here). Beyond the fact that he noticed this particular one happened at the same time of day each of the days, you are unlikely to learn anything else from the time of day.
Was the item used in the murder?
No
Does a Clock have anything to do with it?
No
Did the Intruder kill the owner for the item?
Eh, yes and no.
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