• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:48
CEST 18:48
KST 01:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting3[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent6Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO65.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)71Weekly Cups (Sept 29-Oct 5): MaxPax triples up3PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition325.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)119
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8) The New Patch Killed Mech! TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Tenacious Turtle Tussle WardiTV Mondays SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More
Brood War
General
BW caster Sayle BSL Season 21 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Brood War web app to calculate unit interactions Whose hotkey signature is this?
Tourneys
[ASL20] Semifinal B [ASL20] Semifinal A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
Current Meta BW - ajfirecracker Strategy & Training Siegecraft - a new perspective TvZ Theorycraft - Improving on State of the Art
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640} TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Men's Fashion Thread Sex and weight loss
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Inbreeding: Why Do We Do It…
Peanutsc
From Tilt to Ragequit:The Ps…
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1115 users

Diablo III General Discussion - Page 929

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 927 928 929 930 931 1109 Next
aurawashere
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
October 21 2014 23:03 GMT
#18561
need zeis stone of vengeance[gem],

upgrade topaz gems when you can,

you dont need to use rorg while you are wearing 6 pieces so if you dont have a better ring try aiming for a cindercoat
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/aurawashere-1179/hero/51752848 heres my season wiz, i use this setup for trials replace toxin gem with bane of the powerful and serpent with sunkeeper.

skill wise using mm-conflag sucks because once you get to higher torment/GRS you spend more time kiting/trying to not to die so you'll need force armor,99% of the time you'll be running/teleing away from mobs while firebirds dot kills them

strongarm bracers are another thing that you should aim for, it procs off your bhole giving you a lot of dmg although they are the second rarest bracers iirc
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
October 22 2014 01:33 GMT
#18562
I don't have a better ring yet but fuck paying 50 shards a roll.

I should take MM out of the build entirely then? how would I fill my AP without it? I don't run out often (1-2 times a rift if its super dense) but my wpn dmg is low enough that I sometimes need to keep hammering after the FB dot caps just cuz 3k/s is slow enough that I'm kiting around, waiting for em to die. I feel like I should wait for a better weapon to take MM out, Ive been using it to reach 3k faster on some packs as well.

Blazar/Apocalypse/Mammoth (even with SS) stacks it a little slower than I had thought it would.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
October 22 2014 06:06 GMT
#18563
Ok, I took MM out of my build and just adjusted how I play. I put Force Armor in its place. Once I've got the dot up on something it dies pretty quick. I cleared a t6 rift for the first time with this guy, thanks for the advice
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
aurawashere
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
October 22 2014 07:17 GMT
#18564
ez
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
October 22 2014 08:09 GMT
#18565
i looked at my stash and i already have a zei's :D i have a ramaldini's too
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10660 Posts
October 22 2014 10:22 GMT
#18566
Any fun dps builds I can make with a Thunderfury?

Im pretty bored out of my mind with my DH, and I tried making a Sader, ended up not liking that class.

Preferably a Wizard build or something.
Skol
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 22 2014 15:20 GMT
#18567
For wizard? I stick thunderfury on my templar and use it to proc bane of the trapped.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-22 17:27:35
October 22 2014 17:19 GMT
#18568
On October 22 2014 07:55 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
reposting here because the wizard thread is a ghost town:


http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/FakeSteve-1619/hero/53705903

Here's my seasonal wizard, any suggestions? Feels like it'll take me a while to replace that yellow ammy cuz fuck paying 100 shards a roll.

I have 6/7 Firebird pieces and a RoRG, so I'm mostly just waiting on upgrades and have some freedom in that regard. What should I be looking out for? My immediate plan is just to blow shards trying to find a better Magefist, kinda lost after that. Not sure when I'll replace my SS either, waiting for a good 2hand but idk how good a 2hand I need to find before switching is beneficial (assuming its not a Furnace)

help? I can clear T4 no problem (haven't tried higher yet since completing Firebird, I got the final 4 pieces rifting LAST NIGHT after blowing thousands of shards looking for the helm xD) but I think T6 jailer will one-shot me still. I haven't tried any grifts yet.

edit: in-game I'm at about 42/380 CC/CHD with all paragon into CHD


Without a furnace, a sunkeeper with close to 30% elite dmg is probably the next best weapon. A crafted devastator also work well. I'd probably rank SS below all of those. Why do you have a diamond in your helm? CDR doesn't really do much for this build.

The guides here helped me a lot in gearing:
http://www.diablofans.com/builds/2005-comprehensive-firebirds-guide-40-greater-rifts
http://www.diablofans.com/builds/1050-lvl-39-rank-1-solo-wizard-video-guide

I finished most of my gear, except need to level up gems for the two rings:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Glacier-1662/hero/3202684
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
October 22 2014 17:24 GMT
#18569
On October 23 2014 00:20 andrewlt wrote:
For wizard? I stick thunderfury on my templar and use it to proc bane of the trapped.

Does it proc enough to actually be reliable? This is an idea that never occurred to me..
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
October 22 2014 18:27 GMT
#18570
On October 23 2014 02:24 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2014 00:20 andrewlt wrote:
For wizard? I stick thunderfury on my templar and use it to proc bane of the trapped.

Does it proc enough to actually be reliable? This is an idea that never occurred to me..

is it reliable? no not really but its probably better than any other weapon for it
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 22 2014 20:09 GMT
#18571
I have thunderfury, ess of johan, the freeze shield and cc abilities activated on my templar. I have black hole and the bane of the trapped slow on my wizard. The idea is that the gem is powerful enough that having multiple unreliable cc abilities still makes it worth a slot.

FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
October 22 2014 20:38 GMT
#18572
On October 23 2014 02:19 Glacierz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 07:55 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
reposting here because the wizard thread is a ghost town:


http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/FakeSteve-1619/hero/53705903

Here's my seasonal wizard, any suggestions? Feels like it'll take me a while to replace that yellow ammy cuz fuck paying 100 shards a roll.

I have 6/7 Firebird pieces and a RoRG, so I'm mostly just waiting on upgrades and have some freedom in that regard. What should I be looking out for? My immediate plan is just to blow shards trying to find a better Magefist, kinda lost after that. Not sure when I'll replace my SS either, waiting for a good 2hand but idk how good a 2hand I need to find before switching is beneficial (assuming its not a Furnace)

help? I can clear T4 no problem (haven't tried higher yet since completing Firebird, I got the final 4 pieces rifting LAST NIGHT after blowing thousands of shards looking for the helm xD) but I think T6 jailer will one-shot me still. I haven't tried any grifts yet.

edit: in-game I'm at about 42/380 CC/CHD with all paragon into CHD


Without a furnace, a sunkeeper with close to 30% elite dmg is probably the next best weapon. A crafted devastator also work well. I'd probably rank SS below all of those. Why do you have a diamond in your helm? CDR doesn't really do much for this build.

The guides here helped me a lot in gearing:
http://www.diablofans.com/builds/2005-comprehensive-firebirds-guide-40-greater-rifts
http://www.diablofans.com/builds/1050-lvl-39-rank-1-solo-wizard-video-guide

I finished most of my gear, except need to level up gems for the two rings:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Glacier-1662/hero/3202684


The diamond in my helm is for Blazar. Force Armor kinda makes %hp in a gem kinda useless in t6 dontcha think?
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
October 22 2014 20:50 GMT
#18573
All in all this shit is pretty funny, every piece of Firebird I'm wearing except the shoulders all dropped within a 4 hour session.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10660 Posts
October 23 2014 06:25 GMT
#18574
omg, are u able to put legendary gems on your follower?!!!
Skol
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
October 23 2014 06:51 GMT
#18575
On October 23 2014 15:25 Emnjay808 wrote:
omg, are u able to put legendary gems on your follower?!!!

No.
Writer
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
October 23 2014 16:14 GMT
#18576
Although there was a brief time on PBE when you could. Asheara Set with a couple of the original Wreath Lightnings was just about the most broken thing I've ever seen.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-23 17:03:01
October 23 2014 16:46 GMT
#18577
On October 23 2014 02:19 Glacierz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 07:55 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
reposting here because the wizard thread is a ghost town:


http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/FakeSteve-1619/hero/53705903

Here's my seasonal wizard, any suggestions? Feels like it'll take me a while to replace that yellow ammy cuz fuck paying 100 shards a roll.

I have 6/7 Firebird pieces and a RoRG, so I'm mostly just waiting on upgrades and have some freedom in that regard. What should I be looking out for? My immediate plan is just to blow shards trying to find a better Magefist, kinda lost after that. Not sure when I'll replace my SS either, waiting for a good 2hand but idk how good a 2hand I need to find before switching is beneficial (assuming its not a Furnace)

help? I can clear T4 no problem (haven't tried higher yet since completing Firebird, I got the final 4 pieces rifting LAST NIGHT after blowing thousands of shards looking for the helm xD) but I think T6 jailer will one-shot me still. I haven't tried any grifts yet.

edit: in-game I'm at about 42/380 CC/CHD with all paragon into CHD


Without a furnace, a sunkeeper with close to 30% elite dmg is probably the next best weapon. A crafted devastator also work well. I'd probably rank SS below all of those. Why do you have a diamond in your helm? CDR doesn't really do much for this build.

The guides here helped me a lot in gearing:
http://www.diablofans.com/builds/2005-comprehensive-firebirds-guide-40-greater-rifts
http://www.diablofans.com/builds/1050-lvl-39-rank-1-solo-wizard-video-guide

I finished most of my gear, except need to level up gems for the two rings:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Glacier-1662/hero/3202684

These guides are great. I haven't seen any diablofans builds until now and the gear list near the top is pretty cool.

I'm still surprised by the amount of variance between Firebird skill builds though, on here and other sources. Some with Mirror Images, some with the slow time bubble (seems to be more for group play), some that just stick to buffs + all three damage skills, etc.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-23 21:30:20
October 23 2014 21:26 GMT
#18578
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Crms-1320/hero/52306000

Any experienced Witch Doctors out there? I'd been playing 4pc Zuni pet doc, super basic build until I got my pieces to switch to Jade. I'm really liking the Jade build but obviously it requires more attention, is more dangerous and is in general 'harder' than afk pets kill stuff build I've been farming with.

Gear: I know there are some pieces I'm still missing and some things that can be improved but for gambling, would going for Mojo be my focus for now? I'd like to find the snake mojo that splits dmg with pets to help avoid RIP.

Tips: I seem to run out of mana, and I'm not sure exactly the most efficient way to Jade still. I'm thinking of swapping out Pierce the Veil for something like Gruesome feast, or perhaps another pet/player talent to buff my dog up since I'm using TMF still. I was doing T5 rifts with pet build, but lowered all the way to T2 for my first Jade runs until I get the hang of it. I've managed to go up to T4 pretty faceroll but only attempted GR21 which I cleared in ~7.5 minutes. I'm scared to go higher until I'm more comfortable with Jade.

Also, if it wasn't obvious, this is HARDCORE, so if you could try and cater advice knowing I can't glass cannon and surviving is extremely important that'd be awesome! :D

Thx Doc Pros.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
October 23 2014 21:33 GMT
#18579
1) Swap those Bracers out for Strong-arms. You really won't have mana problems once you start doing jade right.
2) Pierce the Veil can be swapped for Gruesome feast. Its generally better all around. Its pretty easy to keep more than 2 stacks up.
3) NEEED a new weapon. This is number one. Furnace is best, but on hardcore, you can also use Sunkeeper / and Ukaipan serpent.
4) That mojo sucks. Get the snake or the frog. Both are easy to get off Kadala.
5) Trading the Dog for Haunt will help quite a bit as well. Extra CC, and it applies Toxin Gem. Plus, you'll be able to use a better Ring. Cold SOJ would be nice.

Jade is a lot scarier than Pets. You'll never be as safe, but you can certainly go a lot faster.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-23 22:32:53
October 23 2014 22:30 GMT
#18580
This is my first character on Hardcore Seasonal so gear options are a bit uhh scarce. I'll try to address each bit of advice!

1) Strong-arms are hard to find, I found (1) pair so far and... they were Lightning and Strength, so that... really sucks. Is it worth using Lightning Strong-arms (reroll the Str) over 20% cold 6% crit bracers?

2) Sounds good, I'll try that out tonight

3) Yes, unfortunately it's the best weapon I've had drop so far, I will keep looking!

4) I have a thing of the deep, but it's really poorly rolled and even using reroll it's not going to match my current. Is it worth it? I'd probably lose like 10% dps 10% toughness and the 15% haunt dmg, but gain the frog pick-up range. I also have a poorly rolled Homonculous. What would you recommend? I'm currently gambling Mojo's so hopefully something comes up soon.

5) I've only kept the dog because TMF, I actually have a pretty nicely rolled Leoric signet, but I wasn't sure if a TMF dog, to assist with damage soaking and output would be better than a higher dps ring (like 5%) and no dogs. Someday I'll get unity/SOJ but yeah. :|

Thanks for the help.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Prev 1 927 928 929 930 931 1109 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
14:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #16
WardiTV919
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
LamboSC2 290
mouzHeroMarine 285
MindelVK 21
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 6336
Rain 2626
Bisu 1450
BeSt 1210
EffOrt 1160
Mini 544
Larva 475
Stork 400
Light 353
firebathero 303
[ Show more ]
Hyuk 260
actioN 257
Barracks 160
ZerO 156
Hyun 141
hero 93
Backho 87
Rush 70
PianO 61
Sharp 61
Mong 58
JYJ35
zelot 31
Aegong 26
scan(afreeca) 22
sorry 19
ivOry 16
Terrorterran 15
Shine 12
Killer 11
Hm[arnc] 11
yabsab 11
NaDa 11
HiyA 9
Dota 2
Gorgc9517
qojqva3181
Dendi1081
Fuzer 167
League of Legends
Trikslyr59
Counter-Strike
ScreaM1272
fl0m1053
ceh9406
Other Games
FrodaN1534
Beastyqt717
B2W.Neo553
Lowko333
Skadoodle327
Hui .227
ToD134
Liquid`VortiX126
C9.Mang095
FunKaTv 44
ZerO(Twitch)12
trigger1
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 28
• Reevou 1
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 20
• Michael_bg 11
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2581
League of Legends
• TFBlade889
Other Games
• Shiphtur268
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 12m
MaxPax vs Gerald
Solar vs Krystianer
PAPI vs Lemon
Ryung vs Moja
Nice vs NightPhoenix
Cham vs TBD
MaNa vs TriGGeR
PiGosaur Monday
7h 12m
OSC
1d 6h
The PondCast
1d 17h
OSC
1d 19h
Wardi Open
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Safe House 2
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Safe House 2
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
WardiTV TLMC #15
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
EC S1
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.