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On May 22 2012 06:26 UniversalSnip wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 06:06 JingleHell wrote:On May 22 2012 06:02 UniversalSnip wrote:On May 22 2012 06:00 JingleHell wrote:On May 22 2012 05:57 UniversalSnip wrote:On May 22 2012 05:52 JingleHell wrote:On May 22 2012 05:47 solidbebe wrote:On May 22 2012 05:21 chocopaw wrote:
Had to chuckle when I met a pack of Molten Frozen enemies.^^ I once found an axe with fire damage and a chance to freeze enemies... blew my mind o_o Smart-ass comment, contains minor spoilers. + Show Spoiler +Overthrowing the various lords of hell, travelling into their own realm, and then stopping their plot to destroy heaven, with your ally, the archangel embodiment of Justice, using a weapon with magical fire? Perfectly rational. Weapon with magical fire AND magical ice? Woah now, let's not get fucking crazy. It helps if your smart ass comment is actually smart -_-. They spend a whole lot of time trying to make something like running around killing lords of hell appear appear appropriate to the logic of the setting, they spend zero time trying to make a weapon that is both on fire and icy appear consistent with any logic, hence it seems incongruous and weird. It's magic fire and ice. It follows whatever damn logic they want it to, it's their setting. Perfectly smart. If it followed typical laws of nature and logic, it wouldn't need to be magic, obviously. No lol. If there were a magic spell that made leonardo dicaprio appear and moonwalk backwards through the dungeon causing enemies to implode, it would not appear internally consistent just because it's magic. Yes, because this has something to do with the metaphysics of extreme heat and cold coexisting. If you desperately need to be able to understand something to suspend disbelief, I feel sorry for you. It's not a game you play for the plot, it's a game you play for the smash-shits. Well, I'm aware of that, it's still incongruous. It's not affecting my enjoyment of the game, A) I didn't even find the item, that's another poster... B) I wouldn't care if I did because I wouldn't notice C) I wouldn't be annoyed if I did notice, because it's not annoying, it's incongruous, those aren't the same thing. It is silly that in mtg you can enchant a creature with holy strength and unholy strength at the same time, but it doesn't bother me, I'm ok with just acknowledging that it's silly. As it turns out in mtg there are literally hundreds of thousands of contradictions like this (you can equip boots on a log for example), but it doesn't send me into a fit and it doesn't somehow make the individual instances less silly because there are a lot of them. I'm not really surprised you characterize me as 'desperate', 'bitching', being 'driven insane' and somebody you 'feel sorry for' when you're wrong, but it's not a very good habit of thought on your part.
Just imagine an axe that cuts you open and pours Icy Hot into the wound.
Goddamn is that some bonus damage.
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Anyone else got sick lag on EU now?
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On May 22 2012 06:26 UniversalSnip wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 06:06 JingleHell wrote:On May 22 2012 06:02 UniversalSnip wrote:On May 22 2012 06:00 JingleHell wrote:On May 22 2012 05:57 UniversalSnip wrote:On May 22 2012 05:52 JingleHell wrote:On May 22 2012 05:47 solidbebe wrote:On May 22 2012 05:21 chocopaw wrote:
Had to chuckle when I met a pack of Molten Frozen enemies.^^ I once found an axe with fire damage and a chance to freeze enemies... blew my mind o_o Smart-ass comment, contains minor spoilers. + Show Spoiler +Overthrowing the various lords of hell, travelling into their own realm, and then stopping their plot to destroy heaven, with your ally, the archangel embodiment of Justice, using a weapon with magical fire? Perfectly rational. Weapon with magical fire AND magical ice? Woah now, let's not get fucking crazy. It helps if your smart ass comment is actually smart -_-. They spend a whole lot of time trying to make something like running around killing lords of hell appear appear appropriate to the logic of the setting, they spend zero time trying to make a weapon that is both on fire and icy appear consistent with any logic, hence it seems incongruous and weird. It's magic fire and ice. It follows whatever damn logic they want it to, it's their setting. Perfectly smart. If it followed typical laws of nature and logic, it wouldn't need to be magic, obviously. No lol. If there were a magic spell that made leonardo dicaprio appear and moonwalk backwards through the dungeon causing enemies to implode, it would not appear internally consistent just because it's magic. Yes, because this has something to do with the metaphysics of extreme heat and cold coexisting. If you desperately need to be able to understand something to suspend disbelief, I feel sorry for you. It's not a game you play for the plot, it's a game you play for the smash-shits. Well, I'm aware of that, it's still incongruous. It's not affecting my enjoyment of the game, A) I didn't even find the item, that's another poster... B) I wouldn't care if I did because I wouldn't notice C) I wouldn't be annoyed if I did notice, because it's not annoying, it's incongruous, those aren't the same thing. It is silly that in mtg you can enchant a creature with holy strength and unholy strength at the same time, but it doesn't bother me, I'm ok with just acknowledging that it's silly. As it turns out in mtg there are literally hundreds of thousands of contradictions like this (you can equip boots on a log for example), but it doesn't send me into a fit and it doesn't somehow make the individual instances less silly because there are a lot of them. I'm not really surprised you characterize me as 'desperate', 'bitching', being 'driven insane' and somebody you 'feel sorry for' when you're wrong, but it's not a very good habit of thought on your part.
Coming from someone who feels the need to argue semantics to feel better about having a silly argument shredded, that last statement is comical. Just sayin. I'm pretty sure it's relatively obvious to anyone paying attention that my statements here have been based in the same level of absurdity as I perceive in the complaints I was responding to.
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meh, you're not arguing anymore, you're just talking shit
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On May 22 2012 06:30 Cocacooh wrote:
Anyone else got sick lag on EU now?
Yup
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So complete newbie question: What happens if I pick a demon hunter but use a sword or melee weapon? I read that all DH primary active skills involve ranged stuff (I'm assuming that primary skills are just your normal spammable attacks, but couldn't actually find confirmation) like grenades, bows etc... Does the sword just give the weapon damage number and then just look pretty? Thanks!
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On May 22 2012 06:32 UniversalSnip wrote:
meh, you're not arguing anymore, you're just talking shit
What did you say that required further argument? Nothing. You started down the semantics road, which had nothing to do with the original point. Generally, in debate or argument, if there's no on-topic response, there's no real need to continue reinforcing the point.
On May 22 2012 06:34 MCDayC wrote:
So complete newbie question: What happens if I pick a demon hunter but use a sword or melee weapon? I read that all DH primary active skills involve ranged stuff (I'm assuming that primary skills are just your normal spammable attacks, but couldn't actually find confirmation) like grenades, bows etc... Does the sword just give the weapon damage number and then just look pretty? Thanks!
Haven't tried since one of the beta builds, but I seem to remember certain abilities requiring a ranged weapon. Probably easiest to just try it with a cheapass sword from A1.
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On May 22 2012 06:35 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 06:32 UniversalSnip wrote:
meh, you're not arguing anymore, you're just talking shit What did you say that required further argument? Nothing. You started down the semantics road, which had nothing to do with the original point. Generally, in debate or argument, if there's no on-topic response, there's no real need to continue reinforcing the point. Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 06:34 MCDayC wrote:
So complete newbie question: What happens if I pick a demon hunter but use a sword or melee weapon? I read that all DH primary active skills involve ranged stuff (I'm assuming that primary skills are just your normal spammable attacks, but couldn't actually find confirmation) like grenades, bows etc... Does the sword just give the weapon damage number and then just look pretty? Thanks! Haven't tried since one of the beta builds, but I seem to remember certain abilities requiring a ranged weapon. Probably easiest to just try it with a cheapass sword from A1.
You're saying I shouldn't find it incongruous because other things are incongruous and because it would affect my enjoyment of the game, which ruins the whole point of playing the game... neither of which are true. These are what I addressed. I don't know why it's such a significant concession to say something is kinda silly even with the framework of the setting's rules.
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On May 22 2012 06:34 MCDayC wrote:
So complete newbie question: What happens if I pick a demon hunter but use a sword or melee weapon? I read that all DH primary active skills involve ranged stuff (I'm assuming that primary skills are just your normal spammable attacks, but couldn't actually find confirmation) like grenades, bows etc... Does the sword just give the weapon damage number and then just look pretty? Thanks!
*edit* Sorry, according to diablowiki my first comment was wrong.
From diablowiki: "Demon Hunters can't use: 2h weapons of any type (including Polearms, or wands".
"DH class-specific: Hand Crossbows, and off-hand quivers. "
http://www.diablowiki.net/Class-Specific_Weapons
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On May 22 2012 06:37 UniversalSnip wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 06:35 JingleHell wrote:On May 22 2012 06:32 UniversalSnip wrote:
meh, you're not arguing anymore, you're just talking shit What did you say that required further argument? Nothing. You started down the semantics road, which had nothing to do with the original point. Generally, in debate or argument, if there's no on-topic response, there's no real need to continue reinforcing the point. On May 22 2012 06:34 MCDayC wrote:
So complete newbie question: What happens if I pick a demon hunter but use a sword or melee weapon? I read that all DH primary active skills involve ranged stuff (I'm assuming that primary skills are just your normal spammable attacks, but couldn't actually find confirmation) like grenades, bows etc... Does the sword just give the weapon damage number and then just look pretty? Thanks! Haven't tried since one of the beta builds, but I seem to remember certain abilities requiring a ranged weapon. Probably easiest to just try it with a cheapass sword from A1. You're saying I shouldn't find it incongruous because other things are incongruous and because it would affect my enjoyment of the game, which ruins the whole point of playing the game... neither of which are true. These are what I addressed.
No, I'm suggesting that if you can't suspend disbelief, and that inability causes the game to bother you, then there's a lot of other things that should make the specified instance seem trivial. I assumed that anyone commenting on it had some sort of issue with suspending disbelief on it (hence your use of the word "incongruous", which I assume makes you feel smart to use to the point of insufferable redundancy.)
If it doesn't cause you to have difficulty with your suspension of disbelief, then you're arguing just for the sake of being contrary, at which point I'll thank you not to waste any more of my time, as that's my niche, and there's only room for me in it. If it DOES break you out of your appropriate fantasy setting, to the point of comment, then yes, I find it reasonable to assume a level of annoyance, which would generally suggest a lowered level of enjoyment.
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On May 22 2012 06:43 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 06:37 UniversalSnip wrote:On May 22 2012 06:35 JingleHell wrote:On May 22 2012 06:32 UniversalSnip wrote:
meh, you're not arguing anymore, you're just talking shit What did you say that required further argument? Nothing. You started down the semantics road, which had nothing to do with the original point. Generally, in debate or argument, if there's no on-topic response, there's no real need to continue reinforcing the point. On May 22 2012 06:34 MCDayC wrote:
So complete newbie question: What happens if I pick a demon hunter but use a sword or melee weapon? I read that all DH primary active skills involve ranged stuff (I'm assuming that primary skills are just your normal spammable attacks, but couldn't actually find confirmation) like grenades, bows etc... Does the sword just give the weapon damage number and then just look pretty? Thanks! Haven't tried since one of the beta builds, but I seem to remember certain abilities requiring a ranged weapon. Probably easiest to just try it with a cheapass sword from A1. You're saying I shouldn't find it incongruous because other things are incongruous and because it would affect my enjoyment of the game, which ruins the whole point of playing the game... neither of which are true. These are what I addressed. No, I'm suggesting that if you can't suspend disbelief, and that inability causes the game to bother you, then there's a lot of other things that should make the specified instance seem trivial. I assumed that anyone commenting on it had some sort of issue with suspending disbelief on it (hence your use of the word "incongruous", which I assume makes you feel smart to use to the point of insufferable redundancy.) If it doesn't cause you to have difficulty with your suspension of disbelief, then you're arguing just for the sake of being contrary, at which point I'll thank you not to waste any more of my time, as that's my niche, and there's only room for me in it. If it DOES break you out of your appropriate fantasy setting, to the point of comment, then yes, I find it reasonable to assume a level of annoyance, which would generally suggest a lowered level of enjoyment.
Wow seriously what the fuck? I found a fire axe that had a chance to freeze, I found it a little odd, it was an offhand irrelevant comment but you guys feel the need to start an argument like this? Seriously this is about nothing.
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I'm amazed that there's an argument this long about molten freezing mobs. roflz
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Fascinating, apparently I provoked a retarded discussion with my harmless post.
Let me get my popcorn!
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On May 22 2012 06:43 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 06:37 UniversalSnip wrote:On May 22 2012 06:35 JingleHell wrote:On May 22 2012 06:32 UniversalSnip wrote:
meh, you're not arguing anymore, you're just talking shit What did you say that required further argument? Nothing. You started down the semantics road, which had nothing to do with the original point. Generally, in debate or argument, if there's no on-topic response, there's no real need to continue reinforcing the point. On May 22 2012 06:34 MCDayC wrote:
So complete newbie question: What happens if I pick a demon hunter but use a sword or melee weapon? I read that all DH primary active skills involve ranged stuff (I'm assuming that primary skills are just your normal spammable attacks, but couldn't actually find confirmation) like grenades, bows etc... Does the sword just give the weapon damage number and then just look pretty? Thanks! Haven't tried since one of the beta builds, but I seem to remember certain abilities requiring a ranged weapon. Probably easiest to just try it with a cheapass sword from A1. You're saying I shouldn't find it incongruous because other things are incongruous and because it would affect my enjoyment of the game, which ruins the whole point of playing the game... neither of which are true. These are what I addressed. No, I'm suggesting that if you can't suspend disbelief, and that inability causes the game to bother you, then there's a lot of other things that should make the specified instance seem trivial. I assumed that anyone commenting on it had some sort of issue with suspending disbelief on it (hence your use of the word "incongruous", which I assume makes you feel smart to use to the point of insufferable redundancy.) If it doesn't cause you to have difficulty with your suspension of disbelief, then you're arguing just for the sake of being contrary, at which point I'll thank you not to waste any more of my time, as that's my niche, and there's only room for me in it. If it DOES break you out of your appropriate fantasy setting, to the point of comment, then yes, I find it reasonable to assume a level of annoyance, which would generally suggest a lowered level of enjoyment.
No, it doesn't bother me, and no, it doesn't have to bother me. It's not even my item! What are you talking about? You said it was ridiculous for him to find fire+ice odd, I said it wasn't ridiculous, it isn't ridiculous and that's that. I do not even begin to understand what is so confusing about this for you.
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On May 22 2012 07:05 UniversalSnip wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 06:43 JingleHell wrote:On May 22 2012 06:37 UniversalSnip wrote:On May 22 2012 06:35 JingleHell wrote:On May 22 2012 06:32 UniversalSnip wrote:
meh, you're not arguing anymore, you're just talking shit What did you say that required further argument? Nothing. You started down the semantics road, which had nothing to do with the original point. Generally, in debate or argument, if there's no on-topic response, there's no real need to continue reinforcing the point. On May 22 2012 06:34 MCDayC wrote:
So complete newbie question: What happens if I pick a demon hunter but use a sword or melee weapon? I read that all DH primary active skills involve ranged stuff (I'm assuming that primary skills are just your normal spammable attacks, but couldn't actually find confirmation) like grenades, bows etc... Does the sword just give the weapon damage number and then just look pretty? Thanks! Haven't tried since one of the beta builds, but I seem to remember certain abilities requiring a ranged weapon. Probably easiest to just try it with a cheapass sword from A1. You're saying I shouldn't find it incongruous because other things are incongruous and because it would affect my enjoyment of the game, which ruins the whole point of playing the game... neither of which are true. These are what I addressed. No, I'm suggesting that if you can't suspend disbelief, and that inability causes the game to bother you, then there's a lot of other things that should make the specified instance seem trivial. I assumed that anyone commenting on it had some sort of issue with suspending disbelief on it (hence your use of the word "incongruous", which I assume makes you feel smart to use to the point of insufferable redundancy.) If it doesn't cause you to have difficulty with your suspension of disbelief, then you're arguing just for the sake of being contrary, at which point I'll thank you not to waste any more of my time, as that's my niche, and there's only room for me in it. If it DOES break you out of your appropriate fantasy setting, to the point of comment, then yes, I find it reasonable to assume a level of annoyance, which would generally suggest a lowered level of enjoyment. No, it doesn't bother me, and no, it doesn't have to bother me. It's not even my item! What are you talking about? You said it was ridiculous for him to find fire+ice odd, I said it wasn't ridiculous, it isn't ridiculous and that's that. I do not even begin to understand what is so confusing about this for you.
Actually, I pointed out that there's other things that are equally or more unrealistic, and that it really shouldn't detract from enjoyment of the game. And suggested several options for other things that could also mess with your head. I also pointed out that it's silly to talk about the one specific instance. I did all of these things without using those exact words, through the beautiful mechanics of sarcasm and hyperbole, which seem to have eluded your comprehension.
Since you're too busy reinterpreting what I said to respond to my points, I think we're done here.
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On May 22 2012 07:12 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 07:05 UniversalSnip wrote:On May 22 2012 06:43 JingleHell wrote:On May 22 2012 06:37 UniversalSnip wrote:On May 22 2012 06:35 JingleHell wrote:On May 22 2012 06:32 UniversalSnip wrote:
meh, you're not arguing anymore, you're just talking shit What did you say that required further argument? Nothing. You started down the semantics road, which had nothing to do with the original point. Generally, in debate or argument, if there's no on-topic response, there's no real need to continue reinforcing the point. On May 22 2012 06:34 MCDayC wrote:
So complete newbie question: What happens if I pick a demon hunter but use a sword or melee weapon? I read that all DH primary active skills involve ranged stuff (I'm assuming that primary skills are just your normal spammable attacks, but couldn't actually find confirmation) like grenades, bows etc... Does the sword just give the weapon damage number and then just look pretty? Thanks! Haven't tried since one of the beta builds, but I seem to remember certain abilities requiring a ranged weapon. Probably easiest to just try it with a cheapass sword from A1. You're saying I shouldn't find it incongruous because other things are incongruous and because it would affect my enjoyment of the game, which ruins the whole point of playing the game... neither of which are true. These are what I addressed. No, I'm suggesting that if you can't suspend disbelief, and that inability causes the game to bother you, then there's a lot of other things that should make the specified instance seem trivial. I assumed that anyone commenting on it had some sort of issue with suspending disbelief on it (hence your use of the word "incongruous", which I assume makes you feel smart to use to the point of insufferable redundancy.) If it doesn't cause you to have difficulty with your suspension of disbelief, then you're arguing just for the sake of being contrary, at which point I'll thank you not to waste any more of my time, as that's my niche, and there's only room for me in it. If it DOES break you out of your appropriate fantasy setting, to the point of comment, then yes, I find it reasonable to assume a level of annoyance, which would generally suggest a lowered level of enjoyment. No, it doesn't bother me, and no, it doesn't have to bother me. It's not even my item! What are you talking about? You said it was ridiculous for him to find fire+ice odd, I said it wasn't ridiculous, it isn't ridiculous and that's that. I do not even begin to understand what is so confusing about this for you. Actually, I pointed out that there's other things that are equally or more unrealistic,
Quite irrelevant. See the mtg example which specifically addressed this, the profusion of these things doesn't somehow make them reach a critical mass where they're less silly, it just makes more things that are silly.
and that it really shouldn't detract from enjoyment of the game.
It doesn't add or detract (although I suppose for some people it would, but that's not why I play games... I rarely even notice things like this), it just is. Whether 1 + 1 = 2 doesn't have any bearing on whether I enjoy the game, that doesn't make 1 + 1 = 3 more correct.
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On May 22 2012 07:17 UniversalSnip wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 07:12 JingleHell wrote:On May 22 2012 07:05 UniversalSnip wrote:On May 22 2012 06:43 JingleHell wrote:On May 22 2012 06:37 UniversalSnip wrote:On May 22 2012 06:35 JingleHell wrote:On May 22 2012 06:32 UniversalSnip wrote:
meh, you're not arguing anymore, you're just talking shit What did you say that required further argument? Nothing. You started down the semantics road, which had nothing to do with the original point. Generally, in debate or argument, if there's no on-topic response, there's no real need to continue reinforcing the point. On May 22 2012 06:34 MCDayC wrote:
So complete newbie question: What happens if I pick a demon hunter but use a sword or melee weapon? I read that all DH primary active skills involve ranged stuff (I'm assuming that primary skills are just your normal spammable attacks, but couldn't actually find confirmation) like grenades, bows etc... Does the sword just give the weapon damage number and then just look pretty? Thanks! Haven't tried since one of the beta builds, but I seem to remember certain abilities requiring a ranged weapon. Probably easiest to just try it with a cheapass sword from A1. You're saying I shouldn't find it incongruous because other things are incongruous and because it would affect my enjoyment of the game, which ruins the whole point of playing the game... neither of which are true. These are what I addressed. No, I'm suggesting that if you can't suspend disbelief, and that inability causes the game to bother you, then there's a lot of other things that should make the specified instance seem trivial. I assumed that anyone commenting on it had some sort of issue with suspending disbelief on it (hence your use of the word "incongruous", which I assume makes you feel smart to use to the point of insufferable redundancy.) If it doesn't cause you to have difficulty with your suspension of disbelief, then you're arguing just for the sake of being contrary, at which point I'll thank you not to waste any more of my time, as that's my niche, and there's only room for me in it. If it DOES break you out of your appropriate fantasy setting, to the point of comment, then yes, I find it reasonable to assume a level of annoyance, which would generally suggest a lowered level of enjoyment. No, it doesn't bother me, and no, it doesn't have to bother me. It's not even my item! What are you talking about? You said it was ridiculous for him to find fire+ice odd, I said it wasn't ridiculous, it isn't ridiculous and that's that. I do not even begin to understand what is so confusing about this for you. Actually, I pointed out that there's other things that are equally or more unrealistic, Quite irrelevant. See the mtg example which specifically addressed this, the profusion of these things doesn't somehow make them reach a critical mass where they're less silly, it just makes more things that are silly. It doesn't
If it doesn't make the game less fun, why comment? Also, as was pointed out, the fire+ice thing doesn't seem that bizarre at all.
Think of the flames as a result of a massive heat exchanging spell that keeps the weapon cold enough to freeze someone. Then wonder why there are weapons that freeze WITHOUT the fire.
It'll either mess with your head, or you'll ignore it. Ignoring it is the only rational solution, since the entire setting requires you to accept a whole series of improbably explanations for the sake of enjoyment. Nuff said.
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So now that we're done arguing about meaningless things...
How does everyone feel about class balance and PvP(granted it's not out yet)? Also, do you guys think they will reward players with items, achievements, etc for PvP, or will it just be something to mess around in?
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On May 22 2012 07:21 Mondeezy wrote:
So now that we're done arguing about meaningless crap...
How does everyone feel about class balance and PvP(granted it's not out yet)? Also, do you guys think they will reward players with items, achievements, etc for PvP, or will it just be something to mess around in?
I feel class balance is a joke, and PvP shouldn't affect it.
Class balance isn't huge, although I do think the current "unkillable" builds need to be looked at.
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On May 22 2012 07:21 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 07:17 UniversalSnip wrote:On May 22 2012 07:12 JingleHell wrote:On May 22 2012 07:05 UniversalSnip wrote:On May 22 2012 06:43 JingleHell wrote:On May 22 2012 06:37 UniversalSnip wrote:On May 22 2012 06:35 JingleHell wrote:On May 22 2012 06:32 UniversalSnip wrote:
meh, you're not arguing anymore, you're just talking shit What did you say that required further argument? Nothing. You started down the semantics road, which had nothing to do with the original point. Generally, in debate or argument, if there's no on-topic response, there's no real need to continue reinforcing the point. On May 22 2012 06:34 MCDayC wrote:
So complete newbie question: What happens if I pick a demon hunter but use a sword or melee weapon? I read that all DH primary active skills involve ranged stuff (I'm assuming that primary skills are just your normal spammable attacks, but couldn't actually find confirmation) like grenades, bows etc... Does the sword just give the weapon damage number and then just look pretty? Thanks! Haven't tried since one of the beta builds, but I seem to remember certain abilities requiring a ranged weapon. Probably easiest to just try it with a cheapass sword from A1. You're saying I shouldn't find it incongruous because other things are incongruous and because it would affect my enjoyment of the game, which ruins the whole point of playing the game... neither of which are true. These are what I addressed. No, I'm suggesting that if you can't suspend disbelief, and that inability causes the game to bother you, then there's a lot of other things that should make the specified instance seem trivial. I assumed that anyone commenting on it had some sort of issue with suspending disbelief on it (hence your use of the word "incongruous", which I assume makes you feel smart to use to the point of insufferable redundancy.) If it doesn't cause you to have difficulty with your suspension of disbelief, then you're arguing just for the sake of being contrary, at which point I'll thank you not to waste any more of my time, as that's my niche, and there's only room for me in it. If it DOES break you out of your appropriate fantasy setting, to the point of comment, then yes, I find it reasonable to assume a level of annoyance, which would generally suggest a lowered level of enjoyment. No, it doesn't bother me, and no, it doesn't have to bother me. It's not even my item! What are you talking about? You said it was ridiculous for him to find fire+ice odd, I said it wasn't ridiculous, it isn't ridiculous and that's that. I do not even begin to understand what is so confusing about this for you. Actually, I pointed out that there's other things that are equally or more unrealistic, Quite irrelevant. See the mtg example which specifically addressed this, the profusion of these things doesn't somehow make them reach a critical mass where they're less silly, it just makes more things that are silly. and that it really shouldn't detract from enjoyment of the game. It doesn't If it doesn't make the game less fun, why comment?
Because you were wrong? lol
It'll either mess with your head, or you'll ignore it. Ignoring it is the only rational solution, since the entire setting requires you to accept a whole series of improbably explanations for the sake of enjoyment. Nuff said.
No, that is a false dichotomy. You can just notice it, be like, well that's silly, and go on.
Tada. Now you haven't misrepresented it, you don't have to care if it's plausible, just be like, well that isn't, and move on. You don't have to grit your teeth and look away, it's just there.
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