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TheGreenMachine
Profile Joined March 2010
United States730 Posts
August 20 2010 05:44 GMT
#13401
On August 20 2010 14:36 Juicyfruit wrote:And then there's people like nidalee, garen, ezreal ashe etc.... pretty much all get neutered by early armor.

you sold me with this statement...vs heros like that ill try a glacial shroud opening
Don't forget to get everyone you know to play HOTS so this game we love called Starcraft will live on. Every little bit helps. ^^
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3829 Posts
August 20 2010 05:47 GMT
#13402
Lol everytime I played with Finkill he acted like a total douchebag.

I have no idea if he deserves this but HAR HAR.
: o )
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
August 20 2010 05:51 GMT
#13403
Wow solo queue is soo fucking stressful. -_-
龔智禮 _________________________________________________________________________________________________ CJ NATION
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
August 20 2010 06:18 GMT
#13404
Wow....i suggested maxing turrets at 2 like 300 pages ago. I didn't think they would actually do it. Also, I'm wondering if Shaco's actually balanced now :O Jungle still seems very viable on him.
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-20 06:31:42
August 20 2010 06:21 GMT
#13405
On August 20 2010 14:23 Kaneh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 14:07 BraveGhost wrote:
On August 20 2010 13:58 Khul Sadukar wrote:

Panth lore fixed.
I lol'ed.


I tried jungle pantheon today, started 4-0.. what a joke of a toon now... ended like 4-9-something not doing that again


the power of spear shot compels you. He's not THAT bad a champ. not top tier pick, but definitely not eve level. Requires really good awareness/prediction for his ult tho.


Had a game last night. Our panth tried his hardest but couldn't kill anyone. I was the only threat and got insta focused every fight. Apparently the enemy warwick would have done a better job. He only had free reign of the jungle and kept taking baron with tristana due to their carry morde dominating the map who none of us could kill.

I like how everything is my fault somehow even though our shaco went for our blue buff and promptly gave first blood. Our tank chogath wouldn't even initiate fights either. I mean I coulda played a bit better but our team was downright getting stomped.

Rly shits me sometimes I wanna just afk and not put up with the bitching.
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
August 20 2010 06:36 GMT
#13406
On August 20 2010 14:47 ShloobeR wrote:
Lol everytime I played with Finkill he acted like a total douchebag.

I have no idea if he deserves this but HAR HAR.
i actually kinda liked finkill.
thought he (and the rest of original solomid bunch) was pretty funny.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
August 20 2010 06:48 GMT
#13407
On August 20 2010 15:36 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 14:47 ShloobeR wrote:
Lol everytime I played with Finkill he acted like a total douchebag.

I have no idea if he deserves this but HAR HAR.
i actually kinda liked finkill.
thought he (and the rest of original solomid bunch) was pretty funny.


he cares way too much about this game thats his only problem
Brees on in
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-20 06:54:42
August 20 2010 06:53 GMT
#13408
On August 20 2010 12:45 Niton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 12:32 myopia wrote:
YES EAT THAT SHACO


On August 20 2010 12:31 Juicyfruit wrote:Try rushing catalyst. That solves the problem...somewhat, without leaving you stuck with a crappy item.


I dunno, catalyst costs ~50% more than chalice, and doesn't totally solve what Amumu needs, which is to sustain his abilities. With cata I'd end up dry in 15 seconds instead of 10. With Chalice, I don't need blue for the rest of the game.


Chalice.. still does not seem like a 'bad item' to me. Chalice gives you 30 MR and 7.5 base MP5 for 890 gold - 30 MR at Negatron's efficiency is 462.5 gold and 7.5 MP5 at Meki's efficiency is 417.8g. Basically, you're paying 10g for the passive of Chalice, which is an absolute steal if you're buying it for both of the stats on it. If you need Mana/Regen and you're not either rushing RoA or building an Archangel's, I think Chalice is actually a really strong item with how many caster comps are around nowadays.


the thing is with most casters all the mana you ever want is doran ring + meditation. blue buff also really helps. basically doran ring >>> meki pendant by a mile and during mid game you want survivability/damage, not mana regen.

sup dawgs hit shawster up lets play some rankeeddd duo
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
August 20 2010 07:05 GMT
#13409
On August 20 2010 15:53 shawster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 12:45 Niton wrote:
On August 20 2010 12:32 myopia wrote:
YES EAT THAT SHACO


On August 20 2010 12:31 Juicyfruit wrote:Try rushing catalyst. That solves the problem...somewhat, without leaving you stuck with a crappy item.


I dunno, catalyst costs ~50% more than chalice, and doesn't totally solve what Amumu needs, which is to sustain his abilities. With cata I'd end up dry in 15 seconds instead of 10. With Chalice, I don't need blue for the rest of the game.


Chalice.. still does not seem like a 'bad item' to me. Chalice gives you 30 MR and 7.5 base MP5 for 890 gold - 30 MR at Negatron's efficiency is 462.5 gold and 7.5 MP5 at Meki's efficiency is 417.8g. Basically, you're paying 10g for the passive of Chalice, which is an absolute steal if you're buying it for both of the stats on it. If you need Mana/Regen and you're not either rushing RoA or building an Archangel's, I think Chalice is actually a really strong item with how many caster comps are around nowadays.


the thing is with most casters all the mana you ever want is doran ring + meditation. blue buff also really helps. basically doran ring >>> meki pendant by a mile and during mid game you want survivability/damage, not mana regen.

sup dawgs hit shawster up lets play some rankeeddd duo


Also, mp5 runes (just in yellows, not even in blues as well) effectively gives you enough regen on most heroes such that you dont really need any more mana regen than that, and the people that DO need more mp5 than what runes can give often are the primary ppl who get golem, so they dont have much need for a chalice.

also, why are you looking at negatron efficiency when its not a part of chalice?
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-20 07:06:34
August 20 2010 07:06 GMT
#13410
I think chalice is pretty much only for gangplank, since he can't afford downtime on any of his 3 skills.
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
August 20 2010 07:11 GMT
#13411
On August 20 2010 13:58 Khul Sadukar wrote:

Panth lore fixed.
I lol'ed.


This made me a little sad and a little happy that they didn't buff him and cause bandwagoning.
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
August 20 2010 07:21 GMT
#13412
On August 20 2010 16:05 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 15:53 shawster wrote:
On August 20 2010 12:45 Niton wrote:
On August 20 2010 12:32 myopia wrote:
YES EAT THAT SHACO


On August 20 2010 12:31 Juicyfruit wrote:Try rushing catalyst. That solves the problem...somewhat, without leaving you stuck with a crappy item.


I dunno, catalyst costs ~50% more than chalice, and doesn't totally solve what Amumu needs, which is to sustain his abilities. With cata I'd end up dry in 15 seconds instead of 10. With Chalice, I don't need blue for the rest of the game.


Chalice.. still does not seem like a 'bad item' to me. Chalice gives you 30 MR and 7.5 base MP5 for 890 gold - 30 MR at Negatron's efficiency is 462.5 gold and 7.5 MP5 at Meki's efficiency is 417.8g. Basically, you're paying 10g for the passive of Chalice, which is an absolute steal if you're buying it for both of the stats on it. If you need Mana/Regen and you're not either rushing RoA or building an Archangel's, I think Chalice is actually a really strong item with how many caster comps are around nowadays.


the thing is with most casters all the mana you ever want is doran ring + meditation. blue buff also really helps. basically doran ring >>> meki pendant by a mile and during mid game you want survivability/damage, not mana regen.

sup dawgs hit shawster up lets play some rankeeddd duo


Also, mp5 runes (just in yellows, not even in blues as well) effectively gives you enough regen on most heroes such that you dont really need any more mana regen than that, and the people that DO need more mp5 than what runes can give often are the primary ppl who get golem, so they dont have much need for a chalice.

also, why are you looking at negatron efficiency when its not a part of chalice?


I think of it in that way because when I want MR, Negatron is more often than not what I buy to start it. The only hero I've actually played with any regularity that I use it on is Taric, and it feels like a great fit with his low-ish natural mana pool. It's definitely a specialized item, but for heroes who use a ton of abilities, I think it's a good item to take. It's also nice to not need Blue to have the mana efficiency you need, but I agree that unless you're mana-hungry it shouldn't be looked at.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
August 20 2010 08:09 GMT
#13413
ew the wit's end passive thing is reduced by MR.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
August 20 2010 08:16 GMT
#13414
Also is flash getting removed or not O_o
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
August 20 2010 08:25 GMT
#13415
Just bought Xin Zhao, can someone give me an item build and some pointers?
(im doing pretty ass right now)
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 20 2010 08:43 GMT
#13416
On August 20 2010 13:34 Phrost wrote:
I just sent Shurelia an email, if you nerf Ezreal because of his effectiveness on Summoner's Rift (because of red/blue buff) then he'll be a lot less effective on maps that don't include said buffs (twisted treeline, and whatever new maps to come)

Realistically I'd like to see remove on-hit and increase his mystic shot damage to

100/105/110/115/120% AD + Base so that he's not dumb at the beginning but has sustainable dps at the end.

Ezreal is even better on 3v3 than he is on 5v5, even though there is no blue buff.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
August 20 2010 08:51 GMT
#13417
On August 20 2010 17:43 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 13:34 Phrost wrote:
I just sent Shurelia an email, if you nerf Ezreal because of his effectiveness on Summoner's Rift (because of red/blue buff) then he'll be a lot less effective on maps that don't include said buffs (twisted treeline, and whatever new maps to come)

Realistically I'd like to see remove on-hit and increase his mystic shot damage to

100/105/110/115/120% AD + Base so that he's not dumb at the beginning but has sustainable dps at the end.
Ezreal is even better on 3v3 than he is on 5v5, even though there is no blue buff.
don't know about that....
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 20 2010 08:54 GMT
#13418
Thank god, now I don't have to sell and buy my boots just to get some elixiers. I really love filling my slots up. I hope this also applies for Oracles.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 20 2010 08:56 GMT
#13419
On August 20 2010 17:51 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 17:43 HazMat wrote:
On August 20 2010 13:34 Phrost wrote:
I just sent Shurelia an email, if you nerf Ezreal because of his effectiveness on Summoner's Rift (because of red/blue buff) then he'll be a lot less effective on maps that don't include said buffs (twisted treeline, and whatever new maps to come)

Realistically I'd like to see remove on-hit and increase his mystic shot damage to

100/105/110/115/120% AD + Base so that he's not dumb at the beginning but has sustainable dps at the end.
Ezreal is even better on 3v3 than he is on 5v5, even though there is no blue buff.
don't know about that....

Really? I think he's godlike on that map.
Nevertheless, he's still strong on that map even though it lacks golem.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
August 20 2010 09:00 GMT
#13420
On August 20 2010 17:43 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 13:34 Phrost wrote:
I just sent Shurelia an email, if you nerf Ezreal because of his effectiveness on Summoner's Rift (because of red/blue buff) then he'll be a lot less effective on maps that don't include said buffs (twisted treeline, and whatever new maps to come)

Realistically I'd like to see remove on-hit and increase his mystic shot damage to

100/105/110/115/120% AD + Base so that he's not dumb at the beginning but has sustainable dps at the end.

Ezreal is even better on 3v3 than he is on 5v5, even though there is no blue buff.

There isn't a blue buff, but there is green buff, and white buff, and I'd argue that dragon buff is better than baron.
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