On August 20 2010 14:36 Juicyfruit wrote:And then there's people like nidalee, garen, ezreal ashe etc.... pretty much all get neutered by early armor.
you sold me with this statement...vs heros like that ill try a glacial shroud opening

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TheGreenMachine
United States730 Posts
August 20 2010 05:44 GMT
#13401
On August 20 2010 14:36 Juicyfruit wrote:And then there's people like nidalee, garen, ezreal ashe etc.... pretty much all get neutered by early armor. you sold me with this statement...vs heros like that ill try a glacial shroud opening ![]() | ||
ShloobeR
Korea (South)3809 Posts
August 20 2010 05:47 GMT
#13402
I have no idea if he deserves this but HAR HAR. | ||
Gao Xi
Hong Kong5178 Posts
August 20 2010 05:51 GMT
#13403
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Athos
United States2484 Posts
August 20 2010 06:18 GMT
#13404
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Khul Sadukar
Australia1735 Posts
August 20 2010 06:21 GMT
#13405
On August 20 2010 14:23 Kaneh wrote: Show nested quote + On August 20 2010 14:07 BraveGhost wrote: On August 20 2010 13:58 Khul Sadukar wrote: Panth lore fixed. I lol'ed. I tried jungle pantheon today, started 4-0.. what a joke of a toon now... ended like 4-9-something not doing that again the power of spear shot compels you. He's not THAT bad a champ. not top tier pick, but definitely not eve level. Requires really good awareness/prediction for his ult tho. Had a game last night. Our panth tried his hardest but couldn't kill anyone. I was the only threat and got insta focused every fight. Apparently the enemy warwick would have done a better job. He only had free reign of the jungle and kept taking baron with tristana due to their carry morde dominating the map who none of us could kill. I like how everything is my fault somehow even though our shaco went for our blue buff and promptly gave first blood. Our tank chogath wouldn't even initiate fights either. I mean I coulda played a bit better but our team was downright getting stomped. Rly shits me sometimes I wanna just afk and not put up with the bitching. | ||
rredtooth
5459 Posts
August 20 2010 06:36 GMT
#13406
On August 20 2010 14:47 ShloobeR wrote: i actually kinda liked finkill.Lol everytime I played with Finkill he acted like a total douchebag. I have no idea if he deserves this but HAR HAR. thought he (and the rest of original solomid bunch) was pretty funny. | ||
Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
August 20 2010 06:48 GMT
#13407
On August 20 2010 15:36 redtooth wrote: Show nested quote + i actually kinda liked finkill.On August 20 2010 14:47 ShloobeR wrote: Lol everytime I played with Finkill he acted like a total douchebag. I have no idea if he deserves this but HAR HAR. thought he (and the rest of original solomid bunch) was pretty funny. he cares way too much about this game thats his only problem | ||
shawster
Canada2485 Posts
August 20 2010 06:53 GMT
#13408
On August 20 2010 12:45 Niton wrote: Show nested quote + On August 20 2010 12:32 myopia wrote: YES EAT THAT SHACO On August 20 2010 12:31 Juicyfruit wrote:Try rushing catalyst. That solves the problem...somewhat, without leaving you stuck with a crappy item. I dunno, catalyst costs ~50% more than chalice, and doesn't totally solve what Amumu needs, which is to sustain his abilities. With cata I'd end up dry in 15 seconds instead of 10. With Chalice, I don't need blue for the rest of the game. Chalice.. still does not seem like a 'bad item' to me. Chalice gives you 30 MR and 7.5 base MP5 for 890 gold - 30 MR at Negatron's efficiency is 462.5 gold and 7.5 MP5 at Meki's efficiency is 417.8g. Basically, you're paying 10g for the passive of Chalice, which is an absolute steal if you're buying it for both of the stats on it. If you need Mana/Regen and you're not either rushing RoA or building an Archangel's, I think Chalice is actually a really strong item with how many caster comps are around nowadays. the thing is with most casters all the mana you ever want is doran ring + meditation. blue buff also really helps. basically doran ring >>> meki pendant by a mile and during mid game you want survivability/damage, not mana regen. sup dawgs hit shawster up lets play some rankeeddd duo | ||
barbsq
United States5348 Posts
August 20 2010 07:05 GMT
#13409
On August 20 2010 15:53 shawster wrote: Show nested quote + On August 20 2010 12:45 Niton wrote: On August 20 2010 12:32 myopia wrote: YES EAT THAT SHACO On August 20 2010 12:31 Juicyfruit wrote:Try rushing catalyst. That solves the problem...somewhat, without leaving you stuck with a crappy item. I dunno, catalyst costs ~50% more than chalice, and doesn't totally solve what Amumu needs, which is to sustain his abilities. With cata I'd end up dry in 15 seconds instead of 10. With Chalice, I don't need blue for the rest of the game. Chalice.. still does not seem like a 'bad item' to me. Chalice gives you 30 MR and 7.5 base MP5 for 890 gold - 30 MR at Negatron's efficiency is 462.5 gold and 7.5 MP5 at Meki's efficiency is 417.8g. Basically, you're paying 10g for the passive of Chalice, which is an absolute steal if you're buying it for both of the stats on it. If you need Mana/Regen and you're not either rushing RoA or building an Archangel's, I think Chalice is actually a really strong item with how many caster comps are around nowadays. the thing is with most casters all the mana you ever want is doran ring + meditation. blue buff also really helps. basically doran ring >>> meki pendant by a mile and during mid game you want survivability/damage, not mana regen. sup dawgs hit shawster up lets play some rankeeddd duo Also, mp5 runes (just in yellows, not even in blues as well) effectively gives you enough regen on most heroes such that you dont really need any more mana regen than that, and the people that DO need more mp5 than what runes can give often are the primary ppl who get golem, so they dont have much need for a chalice. also, why are you looking at negatron efficiency when its not a part of chalice? | ||
Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
August 20 2010 07:06 GMT
#13410
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New Zealand6138 Posts
August 20 2010 07:11 GMT
#13411
On August 20 2010 13:58 Khul Sadukar wrote: Panth lore fixed. I lol'ed. This made me a little sad and a little happy that they didn't buff him and cause bandwagoning. | ||
Niton
United States2395 Posts
August 20 2010 07:21 GMT
#13412
On August 20 2010 16:05 barbsq wrote: Show nested quote + On August 20 2010 15:53 shawster wrote: On August 20 2010 12:45 Niton wrote: On August 20 2010 12:32 myopia wrote: YES EAT THAT SHACO On August 20 2010 12:31 Juicyfruit wrote:Try rushing catalyst. That solves the problem...somewhat, without leaving you stuck with a crappy item. I dunno, catalyst costs ~50% more than chalice, and doesn't totally solve what Amumu needs, which is to sustain his abilities. With cata I'd end up dry in 15 seconds instead of 10. With Chalice, I don't need blue for the rest of the game. Chalice.. still does not seem like a 'bad item' to me. Chalice gives you 30 MR and 7.5 base MP5 for 890 gold - 30 MR at Negatron's efficiency is 462.5 gold and 7.5 MP5 at Meki's efficiency is 417.8g. Basically, you're paying 10g for the passive of Chalice, which is an absolute steal if you're buying it for both of the stats on it. If you need Mana/Regen and you're not either rushing RoA or building an Archangel's, I think Chalice is actually a really strong item with how many caster comps are around nowadays. the thing is with most casters all the mana you ever want is doran ring + meditation. blue buff also really helps. basically doran ring >>> meki pendant by a mile and during mid game you want survivability/damage, not mana regen. sup dawgs hit shawster up lets play some rankeeddd duo Also, mp5 runes (just in yellows, not even in blues as well) effectively gives you enough regen on most heroes such that you dont really need any more mana regen than that, and the people that DO need more mp5 than what runes can give often are the primary ppl who get golem, so they dont have much need for a chalice. also, why are you looking at negatron efficiency when its not a part of chalice? I think of it in that way because when I want MR, Negatron is more often than not what I buy to start it. The only hero I've actually played with any regularity that I use it on is Taric, and it feels like a great fit with his low-ish natural mana pool. It's definitely a specialized item, but for heroes who use a ton of abilities, I think it's a good item to take. It's also nice to not need Blue to have the mana efficiency you need, but I agree that unless you're mana-hungry it shouldn't be looked at. | ||
HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
August 20 2010 08:09 GMT
#13413
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
August 20 2010 08:16 GMT
#13414
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
August 20 2010 08:25 GMT
#13415
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
August 20 2010 08:43 GMT
#13416
On August 20 2010 13:34 Phrost wrote: I just sent Shurelia an email, if you nerf Ezreal because of his effectiveness on Summoner's Rift (because of red/blue buff) then he'll be a lot less effective on maps that don't include said buffs (twisted treeline, and whatever new maps to come) Realistically I'd like to see remove on-hit and increase his mystic shot damage to 100/105/110/115/120% AD + Base so that he's not dumb at the beginning but has sustainable dps at the end. Ezreal is even better on 3v3 than he is on 5v5, even though there is no blue buff. | ||
rredtooth
5459 Posts
August 20 2010 08:51 GMT
#13417
On August 20 2010 17:43 HazMat wrote: don't know about that....Show nested quote + Ezreal is even better on 3v3 than he is on 5v5, even though there is no blue buff.On August 20 2010 13:34 Phrost wrote: I just sent Shurelia an email, if you nerf Ezreal because of his effectiveness on Summoner's Rift (because of red/blue buff) then he'll be a lot less effective on maps that don't include said buffs (twisted treeline, and whatever new maps to come) Realistically I'd like to see remove on-hit and increase his mystic shot damage to 100/105/110/115/120% AD + Base so that he's not dumb at the beginning but has sustainable dps at the end. | ||
spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
August 20 2010 08:54 GMT
#13418
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
August 20 2010 08:56 GMT
#13419
On August 20 2010 17:51 redtooth wrote: Show nested quote + don't know about that....On August 20 2010 17:43 HazMat wrote: On August 20 2010 13:34 Phrost wrote: Ezreal is even better on 3v3 than he is on 5v5, even though there is no blue buff.I just sent Shurelia an email, if you nerf Ezreal because of his effectiveness on Summoner's Rift (because of red/blue buff) then he'll be a lot less effective on maps that don't include said buffs (twisted treeline, and whatever new maps to come) Realistically I'd like to see remove on-hit and increase his mystic shot damage to 100/105/110/115/120% AD + Base so that he's not dumb at the beginning but has sustainable dps at the end. Really? I think he's godlike on that map. Nevertheless, he's still strong on that map even though it lacks golem. | ||
SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
August 20 2010 09:00 GMT
#13420
On August 20 2010 17:43 HazMat wrote: Show nested quote + On August 20 2010 13:34 Phrost wrote: I just sent Shurelia an email, if you nerf Ezreal because of his effectiveness on Summoner's Rift (because of red/blue buff) then he'll be a lot less effective on maps that don't include said buffs (twisted treeline, and whatever new maps to come) Realistically I'd like to see remove on-hit and increase his mystic shot damage to 100/105/110/115/120% AD + Base so that he's not dumb at the beginning but has sustainable dps at the end. Ezreal is even better on 3v3 than he is on 5v5, even though there is no blue buff. There isn't a blue buff, but there is green buff, and white buff, and I'd argue that dragon buff is better than baron. | ||
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