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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On November 04 2010 01:05 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Also I've made some pretty huge mistakes today that I feel were uncharacteristic but pretty representative of how hard i'm capable of fucking up, like when I chose to complete ghostblade over saving for IE on Trist to farm better vs Xin (ironic and retarded) or when I kept dying today on stream with udyr because nobody was following me in (no tank team) or this last game where I just straight up couldn't carry vs a huge fed galio and a huge fed cho because I made bloodrazors as my last item instead of getting it early on, knowing that I had a nidalee/leblanc/nasus and that kayle was getting mass silenced/cc'd without cleanse or quicksilver and they were basically ignoring me and just eating the stuns because my team had no sustained dps except kayle who was getting dumped on. Anyway I'm realistic about it, I'm a slightly better than shitty but much worse than good player. You're not a bad player, I'll vouch for you. Just you make some ?! decisions at times... Working on your thought process while you play perhaps. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On November 04 2010 01:14 Haemonculus wrote: How often do you guys invest far into trees other than utility? I just find the utility tree to have the most useful stuff that you can't get via items. The final offensive mastery feels kinda weak, and aside from veterans scars, I never delve far into defense. Presence of the master is just too awesome. Utility is way good. All casters and jungle champs should have 21 in utility, without a doubt. I go 21 0 9 for heavy phys carries like MF at times. Then 21 in defense for manaless/tanky champions like Garen or Shen. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On November 04 2010 01:05 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Also I've made some pretty huge mistakes today that I feel were uncharacteristic but pretty representative of how hard i'm capable of fucking up, like when I chose to complete ghostblade over saving for IE on Trist to farm better vs Xin (ironic and retarded) or when I kept dying today on stream with udyr because nobody was following me in (no tank team) or this last game where I just straight up couldn't carry vs a huge fed galio and a huge fed cho because I made bloodrazors as my last item instead of getting it early on, knowing that I had a nidalee/leblanc/nasus and that kayle was getting mass silenced/cc'd without cleanse or quicksilver and they were basically ignoring me and just eating the stuns because my team had no sustained dps except kayle who was getting dumped on. Anyway I'm realistic about it, I'm a slightly better than shitty but much worse than good player. I told you I didn't play Nasus =X Probably shoulda just taken Karthus or something and roflpwned them early considering they had no idea how to lane, but having stupid CC in teamfights carried their dumb asses. For reference, it was Galio, Cho, Kennan, LaBlanc, and...shit...someone who was terrible, WW I think... | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On November 04 2010 00:51 Southlight wrote: I tried out Leblanc in one 1v1 practice game against StuffedTurkey's Sion and had the same exact results as Lux (ie. you get roflstomped after a while), so I'm a bit iffy about her supposed burst (didn't feel that high?) and her delayed CC... especially given that she has no real farming power. I actually felt like Anivia is stronger side-lane (if I go that way) and in a solo lane I'd probably default to Malzahar, Morg, or Annie :/ I'm open to being wrong about TheWhite and I've encouraged people to let me know if one starts taking over, but nothing so far. she's a lot like akali in the sense that if she runs into anyone with substance, its like running into a brick wall. On the other hand, she makes ppl like ashe go kaboom. She also has high mobility, i ran flash/ignite at first, but i actually felt justified in flash/ghost just because of that extra mobility really felt like it made more of a difference, and she doesnt need an extra nuke. Also, i feel like she can really abuse 1v1 lanes since she has an obscenely strong poke, q+jump/return = mini explosion. with just like 2 combos you can send some1 back to base crying. edit: her farm power goes up when you can regularly double-jump creeps, but thats at the point in time where it doesnt matter quite as much (you're already dropping off anyways) | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
On November 04 2010 01:14 Haemonculus wrote: How often do you guys invest far into trees other than utility? I just find the utility tree to have the most useful stuff that you can't get via items. The final offensive mastery feels kinda weak, and aside from veterans scars, I never delve far into defense. Presence of the master is just too awesome. I never go 21 in offense on anything. I go 21 defense occasionally, most often with non-mana champs. | ||
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Kingske
Belgium252 Posts
Obi need 21 in defense for tanks | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On November 04 2010 00:58 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Nah I've embraced it, the reason I keep losing when I go on 7-0 killing sprees first 20 minutes is that I can't abuse my huge early advantage and turn it into a decisive win. If I learn how to do this I'll start becoming a better player but honestly I can't do the 1v5 thing like I've seen some players do and that's a pretty big disadvantage when it comes to ranking up. If you go 7-0, it is very likely that at least 2 other people on your team will actually listen to what you say if you keep it constructive and friendly. Guide them. This is how you abuse an early advantage. You can't 1v5 unless your enemies are total retards. You might be able to solo win a game by pushing and avoiding enemies, occasionally picking off people who challenge you 1v1 without any backup, but other than that I don't see a way to win 1v5. And even then you rely on your team to an extent. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On November 04 2010 01:14 Haemonculus wrote: How often do you guys invest far into trees other than utility? I just find the utility tree to have the most useful stuff that you can't get via items. The final offensive mastery feels kinda weak, and aside from veterans scars, I never delve far into defense. Presence of the master is just too awesome. I do 21/0/9 on ashe cus the damage is neat, and I feel like it suits ashe the best. But yeah, I run utillty on everybody else (when im not jungling, then i run 1/14/15, mogwais ubahl33t jungle masteries) I used to run defensive masteries alot but they feel so inferior to the mana and buff duration along with the cdr. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
http://www.livestream.com/locodoco | ||
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
21 in offense for Twitch and maybe a few others, though I don't play these champs. 21 defense for... I'm not sure. Utility tree is just too good and if you need tank, buy items ingame. | ||
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Southlight
United States11766 Posts
When I played Ashe I ran 0/21/9 though. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On November 04 2010 01:33 Iplaythings wrote: I do 21/0/9 on ashe cus the damage is neat, and I feel like it suits ashe the best. Have you ever considered 19/0/11? Afaik the 5% damage only applies to base damage so that's a full 5 AD at lvl 18. You can instead get 2 buff duration 1 greed. I assume that you build her IE/LW so you most definitely want red buff as much as possible. By lvl 18 greed should easily have paid for the 5 AD you miss out on. You have a little bit less damage at lvl 1 though. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On November 03 2010 23:24 HazMat wrote: I know haha. Just wondering how many wins with a 100% winrate it takes to get to 30. I'm probably just going to spam 3v3 games so I doubt I'll lose. don't quote me on this, but i think i had 200 games played at level 20, and it took at least another 150 to get to 30 (not a 100% win rate though, probably close to 55% lol). so considering the TT exp reduction but the fact that you're not bad, mb ~70+ games? | ||
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Unentschieden
Germany1471 Posts
21 Defense is valuable on champions that HAVE to take damage to function, any Jungler and about any melee. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
0/9/21 on any caster even if it's a tanky caster like galio who "needs defense masteries". i couldn't imagine running annie/galio without flash and ghost mastery and summoner spell reduction time 0/21/9 on any ranged carry because i'm terrified of losing lane/farm when i'm a champ that really needs it. the only ranged carry i play though is ashe honestly and i'm bad with her anyways and i actually run this set with vlad because he doesn't need a lot of the mana stuff in utility 0/15/15 or 1/14/15 on junglers/melee dps champs. i want the MS but i don't feel like summoner spells are as critical on xin/trynd/olaf (though i do love me some ghost on olaf) | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On November 04 2010 01:47 Unentschieden wrote: The problem is that only two masteries in offence are any good: MRPen and 5% more damage. Its either 0, 9 or 21 in offense, no other. 21 Defense is valuable on champions that HAVE to take damage to function, any Jungler and about any melee. How is 5 AD at lvl 18 better than 10% crit damage on champs that build a lot of crit, especially if you run crit runes? | ||
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Southlight
United States11766 Posts
On November 04 2010 01:55 spinesheath wrote: How is 5 AD at lvl 18 better than 10% crit damage on champs that build a lot of crit, especially if you run crit runes? If you attack 100 times it's a whole 500 damage! But if you attack 100 times with 0% crit chance it's an extra 0 damage! You're welcome. | ||
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MrShank
Canada144 Posts
kinda frustrating, use all 4 spells as a combo and not even a fraction of the health is gone... btw im new to LoL but got a firm understanding of whats going on, i like Leblanc skills but she seems a little fragile any tips of what to aim for, for items? | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On November 04 2010 01:47 Unentschieden wrote: The problem is that only two masteries in offence are any good: MRPen and 5% more damage. Its either 0, 9 or 21 in offense, no other. 21 Defense is valuable on champions that HAVE to take damage to function, any Jungler and about any melee. sunder is quite good actually. ArPen imba. We like to dump on the offensive tree, but that's mostly because it pales in comparison to the other trees. It's still pretty good, it's just not AS good as the other trees and when you're looking to twink yourself out, the offensive tree is BY FAR the easiest to replace with itemization. but yea, I run 21 utility on anyone who doesn't need damage reduction from creep aggro, including Shen and Garen and Kennen, lol. I mean, meditation is a great mastery and all, but pretty much everything but expanded mind and perseverance in the utility tree is both great and irreplaceable through normal itemization. | ||
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