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iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
February 23 2010 17:08 GMT
#261
epic mounts at 40 and flying mounts at 60 don't forget that...-_____________-
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Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2397 Posts
February 23 2010 17:12 GMT
#262
On February 24 2010 01:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2010 00:51 kiykiy wrote:
Wow.. they really made wow easy compared to around season 1-season 2


Dude you have no idea, they have changed it so much since wow first came out :|

You can get mounts at lvl 20! Level 20! I remember at 20 I was running stockades and didn't even have a mount and had to wait till level 40 for one... oh all that time wasted walking and running


Raiding is a joke now too. Like i havent found anything comparable to the old raids much less AQ40 or Naxx 40. I love how noobs were spouting out at first "omg Ulduar is hard like Naxx 40". i face palmed so much during those days.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
Rigodon666
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada183 Posts
February 23 2010 20:51 GMT
#263
On February 24 2010 02:12 xMiragex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2010 01:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On February 24 2010 00:51 kiykiy wrote:
Wow.. they really made wow easy compared to around season 1-season 2


Dude you have no idea, they have changed it so much since wow first came out :|

You can get mounts at lvl 20! Level 20! I remember at 20 I was running stockades and didn't even have a mount and had to wait till level 40 for one... oh all that time wasted walking and running


Raiding is a joke now too. Like i havent found anything comparable to the old raids much less AQ40 or Naxx 40. I love how noobs were spouting out at first "omg Ulduar is hard like Naxx 40". i face palmed so much during those days.



Remember when Epic mount were Just a legend -_-.... and everyone was farming gold from the glitched lanterns in STV....
I'll call the guy who will call Nada
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
February 23 2010 21:44 GMT
#264
On February 24 2010 02:12 xMiragex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2010 01:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On February 24 2010 00:51 kiykiy wrote:
Wow.. they really made wow easy compared to around season 1-season 2


Dude you have no idea, they have changed it so much since wow first came out :|

You can get mounts at lvl 20! Level 20! I remember at 20 I was running stockades and didn't even have a mount and had to wait till level 40 for one... oh all that time wasted walking and running


Raiding is a joke now too. Like i havent found anything comparable to the old raids much less AQ40 or Naxx 40. I love how noobs were spouting out at first "omg Ulduar is hard like Naxx 40". i face palmed so much during those days.


This is a misconception a lot of old players away from the game have. Hard modes are legitimately hard, Ulduar hard modes were "hard", many of the top guilds struggled with Yogg-25 Hard Modes with many claiming the hardest wasn't possible (sounds like AQ40 C'thun huh?). The majority of the whiners were people who were 6/9 BT before 3.0 and got spoiled by the 3.0 patch.


Before oldies bring up the "world firsts took so much longer than nowadays" argument, yeah, because 90% of the bosses you faced you couldn't do without Resistance gear; it's like the hard mode bosses are any less technical than in vanilla or required looser execution. Farming gear didn't take skill.

Ask any guild that did Yogg25-0 during that patch, that shit wasn't a cakewalk or remotely easy. If you're breezing through normal mode, go do hard modes, they're pretty solid encounters if you're looking for a good challenge.

Normal modes will always be easier than anything that vanilla or BC had at its lowest levels. That being said, I do think that nothing will beat the 4H encounter in Naxx40.
Get it by your hands...
hero33
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada122 Posts
February 23 2010 23:13 GMT
#265
I encourage everyone to come to this server. its just really friendly. and helpful.
Anyone can become famous, Just set urself on fire
DrywMz
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States394 Posts
February 24 2010 00:29 GMT
#266
Join today for your complimentary netherweave bags and 10g! LIMITED TIME OFFER!
lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
February 24 2010 00:36 GMT
#267
On February 23 2010 23:18 Magicbox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2010 21:37 ToT)MidiaN( wrote:
On February 23 2010 03:35 Magicbox wrote:
It's not possible to cross region transfer right?

I'm strongly tempted to start playing again even if it means buying a new account...

If I do play on us servers from eu, how will the latency be?


I'm willing to level with you using RAF, I think Korea is like 8 hours ahead of CET though so we'd have to figure out a schedule when we can both play. Let me know ^^



What I'm gonna miss is not my char so much, but all the items I have on him (them). All my gold -and I have a decent amount - boa items, badges and all the items I have farmed. Plus I wont be able to buy fly mount (and tome for northrend). That's what's holding me back. Mostly that with no money for epic mounts and boa tome ^^

Does RAF work all the way up to lvl 80?

Even with all the downsides I think I will start a char :D I don't know where CET is measured from, but I'm +1 GMT. And I have the option of being online from 1700-2200 (5pm-10pm) (+1 GMT) during normal weekdays and ofcourse a lot more in weekends

Let me know if that is cool with you ^^

Edit: RAF is forbidden in Denmark (serious). Lets see if we can find a way to work around it when I make an account. I have no clue how RAF works. I guess I need to make an account first, right?


You'll have to get a US account anyways - and it wouldn't be forbidden in Denmark ... if it's US, right? Not EU server? Hmm...
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SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
February 24 2010 03:13 GMT
#268
On February 24 2010 08:13 hero33 wrote:
I encourage everyone to come to this server. its just really friendly. and helpful.

lolol qt
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Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-24 05:01:29
February 24 2010 04:54 GMT
#269
On February 24 2010 06:44 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2010 02:12 xMiragex wrote:
On February 24 2010 01:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On February 24 2010 00:51 kiykiy wrote:
Wow.. they really made wow easy compared to around season 1-season 2


Dude you have no idea, they have changed it so much since wow first came out :|

You can get mounts at lvl 20! Level 20! I remember at 20 I was running stockades and didn't even have a mount and had to wait till level 40 for one... oh all that time wasted walking and running


Raiding is a joke now too. Like i havent found anything comparable to the old raids much less AQ40 or Naxx 40. I love how noobs were spouting out at first "omg Ulduar is hard like Naxx 40". i face palmed so much during those days.


This is a misconception a lot of old players away from the game have. Hard modes are legitimately hard, Ulduar hard modes were "hard", many of the top guilds struggled with Yogg-25 Hard Modes with many claiming the hardest wasn't possible (sounds like AQ40 C'thun huh?). The majority of the whiners were people who were 6/9 BT before 3.0 and got spoiled by the 3.0 patch.


Before oldies bring up the "world firsts took so much longer than nowadays" argument, yeah, because 90% of the bosses you faced you couldn't do without Resistance gear; it's like the hard mode bosses are any less technical than in vanilla or required looser execution. Farming gear didn't take skill.

Ask any guild that did Yogg25-0 during that patch, that shit wasn't a cakewalk or remotely easy. If you're breezing through normal mode, go do hard modes, they're pretty solid encounters if you're looking for a good challenge.

Normal modes will always be easier than anything that vanilla or BC had at its lowest levels. That being said, I do think that nothing will beat the 4H encounter in Naxx40.


Im still playing and i still fail to see your point. C'thun HAD to get nerfed to be killable. Your resistance arguement is also BS specially considering AQ40 and Naxx (besides Saph). Huhuran you only need like 150 NR and that was buffed if i remember right. 4 Horsemen was the encounter that took the longest for any guild to kill since their first encounter, which was 6 days (unless im misinformed). You didnt even need resistance for it. I doubt the top guild took 6 dedicated raid nights or more to kill yogg 25 only.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
Magicbox
Profile Joined June 2004
Denmark73 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-24 04:58:11
February 24 2010 04:54 GMT
#270
On February 24 2010 09:36 lilsusie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2010 23:18 Magicbox wrote:
On February 23 2010 21:37 ToT)MidiaN( wrote:
On February 23 2010 03:35 Magicbox wrote:
It's not possible to cross region transfer right?

I'm strongly tempted to start playing again even if it means buying a new account...

If I do play on us servers from eu, how will the latency be?


I'm willing to level with you using RAF, I think Korea is like 8 hours ahead of CET though so we'd have to figure out a schedule when we can both play. Let me know ^^



What I'm gonna miss is not my char so much, but all the items I have on him (them). All my gold -and I have a decent amount - boa items, badges and all the items I have farmed. Plus I wont be able to buy fly mount (and tome for northrend). That's what's holding me back. Mostly that with no money for epic mounts and boa tome ^^

Does RAF work all the way up to lvl 80?

Even with all the downsides I think I will start a char :D I don't know where CET is measured from, but I'm +1 GMT. And I have the option of being online from 1700-2200 (5pm-10pm) (+1 GMT) during normal weekdays and ofcourse a lot more in weekends

Edit: RAF is forbidden in Denmark, because our government think it resembles a pyramid scheme...

Let me know if that is cool with you ^^

Edit: RAF is forbidden in Denmark (serious). Lets see if we can find a way to work around it when I make an account. I have no clue how RAF works. I guess I need to make an account first, right?


You'll have to get a US account anyways - and it wouldn't be forbidden in Denmark ... if it's US, right? Not EU server? Hmm...


I realise I need an account, but I'm a little confused as to which account. If I read it correctly on their faq I need a trial account, which will be recruited, and then I upgrade the trial account to a real account. Or can I go ahead and make a real account from the start?

about the RAF. It's forbidden by Danish law, which is why Blizzard doesn't offer it to any accounts residing in Denmark (doesn't matter if I use EU or US server). I guess I can say I have moved country when I make the new account^^ That's what I'm planning on doing at least

Edit: It's forbidden by the Danish government because they think it resembles a pyrami scheme...
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-24 05:51:29
February 24 2010 05:50 GMT
#271
On February 24 2010 13:54 xMiragex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2010 06:44 Judicator wrote:
On February 24 2010 02:12 xMiragex wrote:
On February 24 2010 01:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On February 24 2010 00:51 kiykiy wrote:
Wow.. they really made wow easy compared to around season 1-season 2


Dude you have no idea, they have changed it so much since wow first came out :|

You can get mounts at lvl 20! Level 20! I remember at 20 I was running stockades and didn't even have a mount and had to wait till level 40 for one... oh all that time wasted walking and running


Raiding is a joke now too. Like i havent found anything comparable to the old raids much less AQ40 or Naxx 40. I love how noobs were spouting out at first "omg Ulduar is hard like Naxx 40". i face palmed so much during those days.


This is a misconception a lot of old players away from the game have. Hard modes are legitimately hard, Ulduar hard modes were "hard", many of the top guilds struggled with Yogg-25 Hard Modes with many claiming the hardest wasn't possible (sounds like AQ40 C'thun huh?). The majority of the whiners were people who were 6/9 BT before 3.0 and got spoiled by the 3.0 patch.


Before oldies bring up the "world firsts took so much longer than nowadays" argument, yeah, because 90% of the bosses you faced you couldn't do without Resistance gear; it's like the hard mode bosses are any less technical than in vanilla or required looser execution. Farming gear didn't take skill.

Ask any guild that did Yogg25-0 during that patch, that shit wasn't a cakewalk or remotely easy. If you're breezing through normal mode, go do hard modes, they're pretty solid encounters if you're looking for a good challenge.

Normal modes will always be easier than anything that vanilla or BC had at its lowest levels. That being said, I do think that nothing will beat the 4H encounter in Naxx40.


Im still playing and i still fail to see your point. C'thun HAD to get nerfed to be killable. Your resistance arguement is also BS specially considering AQ40 and Naxx (besides Saph). Huhuran you only need like 150 NR and that was buffed if i remember right. 4 Horsemen was the encounter that took the longest for any guild to kill since their first encounter, which was 6 days (unless im misinformed). You didnt even need resistance for it. I doubt the top guild took 6 dedicated raid nights or more to kill yogg 25 only.


There were many fewer man guilds pushing content at 60 than there were at 70 and now 80. Content isn't easier, but RAIDING is. Wipe recovery, class balancing, consumables, instance design, etc have all improved drastically. Also, one of the biggest factors is how much better players are now. Not so much skill, but the wealth of knowledge and math behind all of them game is so well known that players are just better now because of it. People in raiding guilds in vanilla didn't know how to maximize their class like 90% of raiders do easily now.

Hard mode encounters are just as hard and in many cases harder than many 60 raid bosses. Yogg+0 was extremely hard pre-nerf. From a mechanic and execution stand point it is more difficult than 4 Horseman in my opinion. 4 Horseman simply required the right raid composition and gear. Hope your guild has 8 prot warriors w/ t3, because if you don't then you're not going to down it. That's not difficult, that just means it's stupid.
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Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-24 17:22:43
February 24 2010 17:22 GMT
#272
On February 24 2010 14:50 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2010 13:54 xMiragex wrote:
On February 24 2010 06:44 Judicator wrote:
On February 24 2010 02:12 xMiragex wrote:
On February 24 2010 01:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On February 24 2010 00:51 kiykiy wrote:
Wow.. they really made wow easy compared to around season 1-season 2


Dude you have no idea, they have changed it so much since wow first came out :|

You can get mounts at lvl 20! Level 20! I remember at 20 I was running stockades and didn't even have a mount and had to wait till level 40 for one... oh all that time wasted walking and running


Raiding is a joke now too. Like i havent found anything comparable to the old raids much less AQ40 or Naxx 40. I love how noobs were spouting out at first "omg Ulduar is hard like Naxx 40". i face palmed so much during those days.


This is a misconception a lot of old players away from the game have. Hard modes are legitimately hard, Ulduar hard modes were "hard", many of the top guilds struggled with Yogg-25 Hard Modes with many claiming the hardest wasn't possible (sounds like AQ40 C'thun huh?). The majority of the whiners were people who were 6/9 BT before 3.0 and got spoiled by the 3.0 patch.


Before oldies bring up the "world firsts took so much longer than nowadays" argument, yeah, because 90% of the bosses you faced you couldn't do without Resistance gear; it's like the hard mode bosses are any less technical than in vanilla or required looser execution. Farming gear didn't take skill.

Ask any guild that did Yogg25-0 during that patch, that shit wasn't a cakewalk or remotely easy. If you're breezing through normal mode, go do hard modes, they're pretty solid encounters if you're looking for a good challenge.

Normal modes will always be easier than anything that vanilla or BC had at its lowest levels. That being said, I do think that nothing will beat the 4H encounter in Naxx40.


Im still playing and i still fail to see your point. C'thun HAD to get nerfed to be killable. Your resistance arguement is also BS specially considering AQ40 and Naxx (besides Saph). Huhuran you only need like 150 NR and that was buffed if i remember right. 4 Horsemen was the encounter that took the longest for any guild to kill since their first encounter, which was 6 days (unless im misinformed). You didnt even need resistance for it. I doubt the top guild took 6 dedicated raid nights or more to kill yogg 25 only.


There were many fewer man guilds pushing content at 60 than there were at 70 and now 80. Content isn't easier, but RAIDING is. Wipe recovery, class balancing, consumables, instance design, etc have all improved drastically. Also, one of the biggest factors is how much better players are now. Not so much skill, but the wealth of knowledge and math behind all of them game is so well known that players are just better now because of it. People in raiding guilds in vanilla didn't know how to maximize their class like 90% of raiders do easily now.

Hard mode encounters are just as hard and in many cases harder than many 60 raid bosses. Yogg+0 was extremely hard pre-nerf. From a mechanic and execution stand point it is more difficult than 4 Horseman in my opinion. 4 Horseman simply required the right raid composition and gear. Hope your guild has 8 prot warriors w/ t3, because if you don't then you're not going to down it. That's not difficult, that just means it's stupid.


Consumables are NOT easier to get for sure. Giving both shamans and paladins to both factions was retarded and made things easier while taking out an uniqueness from each faction while raiding and pvping (well pvp is not the point). I agree that wipe recovery is much faster but also you dont take into account the things blizz to make the game easier. Yes more players are well informed on how to maximize their class but things like changing shield block from a 6 sec CD to a 40 sec CD basically just removed something from warriors that made them EASIER to play. Id bring in dual spec into this but it IS a nice thing, which makes raiding easier, i personally wouldve restricted the other spec for PvP only since that was supposedly one of the big reasons it was implemented. As for the 4 horsemen thing, then why do people say, "omg that fight is such a hard gear check" and now you come out that the fight was retarded.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
Magicbox
Profile Joined June 2004
Denmark73 Posts
February 24 2010 17:52 GMT
#273
Blizzard keeps denying me time and again.

Apparently I can't use the online upgrade version because I'm not living in the states. It refuses to accept my creditcard with error 202 (wrong zip code - I don't live in the us).

That means I have to get a physical copy of the game from an us retailer. But there will still be a problem, when I need to pay my subscription, because I still don't live in the states.

Is there a way to work around this problem?
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
February 24 2010 18:22 GMT
#274
paypal?
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iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
February 24 2010 18:57 GMT
#275
On February 25 2010 02:52 Magicbox wrote:
Blizzard keeps denying me time and again.

Apparently I can't use the online upgrade version because I'm not living in the states. It refuses to accept my creditcard with error 202 (wrong zip code - I don't live in the us).

That means I have to get a physical copy of the game from an us retailer. But there will still be a problem, when I need to pay my subscription, because I still don't live in the states.

Is there a way to work around this problem?

game cards
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Magicbox
Profile Joined June 2004
Denmark73 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-24 19:03:32
February 24 2010 19:01 GMT
#276
Oh yeah, I had totally forgotten about that, since you can't pay with paypal on the european servers.

I guess I'm gonna find a retailer that can sell me a us version of the game then ^^

Thanks for the suggestion!

Edit: game cards wont work since they are region specific.
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4641 Posts
February 24 2010 19:18 GMT
#277
It worked for fine for me using a Swedish CC, just enter your danish zip code?
This neo violence, pure self defiance
st3f
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada168 Posts
February 24 2010 19:24 GMT
#278
I was gonna quit too, but then i got a couple game cards from a few friends that i dont know what to do with =.=; What time do you guys usually play?
Wakin and bakin - Wiz
Magicbox
Profile Joined June 2004
Denmark73 Posts
February 24 2010 19:42 GMT
#279
On February 25 2010 04:18 Hittegods wrote:
It worked for fine for me using a Swedish CC, just enter your danish zip code?


That's what I did :p

In a minor rage fit I entered the last 4 digits of my cardnumber in the zip code instead, and voila! it suddenly worked! Oo

I'm downloading full speed now :D Expect to see me online tomorrow!
iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
February 24 2010 20:29 GMT
#280
On February 25 2010 04:01 Magicbox wrote:
Oh yeah, I had totally forgotten about that, since you can't pay with paypal on the european servers.

I guess I'm gonna find a retailer that can sell me a us version of the game then ^^

Thanks for the suggestion!

Edit: game cards wont work since they are region specific.


If you're getting the US copy of the game buy US gamecards from the same retailer. They should have both...
Grouty @HoN/PCKJ <--<333 || Jaedong Fan Cafe GFX
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