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Hey teamliquid, long time no see! Since "quitting" StarCraft ~4 years ago to pursue poker I've struggled to find the love for any game that I once felt for StarCraft, and I've switched back and forth between WoW, Diablo2, StarCraft, random console games etc for the past 2-3 years without being able to stick at one game for any extended period of time.
Right now I'm currently stuck in the WoW phase though, and it may stick for quite some time as I'm enjoying levelling alts a bunch, raiding when possible etc. However the main thing I'm disliking about WoW right now is the community. I know very few people online and every guild I've joined has either been full of assholes or "nice", but terrible players.
Because of this me and lilsusie decided to take it upon ourselves to create our own guild. We named it Team Liquid, with the view that players from this site and Liquid Poker could join the guild and then we could play WoW in a familiar and friendly environment with people of similar interests.
That's where you guys come in. We are on the Horde side on the US-Bloodscalp server and are inviting you guys to come join our guild. Both me and lilsusie are pretty active, logging on for at least a couple of hours every day (Even more in my case me since I play poker for a living whereas she has to work normal hours).
We are certainly up for raiding as much high-end content as possible if enough people are willing to move servers or level up some new characters on this server some time soon, until then though, we are happy to keep pugging away for now as long as we have a bunch of Teamliquiders to surround ourselves with!
Reply here, PM me, or send a tell to me, Impinge, or lilsusie on Khariana @ US-Bloodscalp if you are interested! Thanks!
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hmm i just reinstalled WoW to kill some time. I never really got into the game much because the community inside the game was always more or less snobbish/unfriendly, so I've experienced very little of the end game at all.
currently have free game time, debating whether to sub or not ;x
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Bah! US servers :< I would've gladly joined but I've got both of my 80 chars at an EU server.
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Me and my girlfriend are planning on playing again when Cataclysm comes out. I would love to play in a TL guild, but how many people are there really? I have had a few characters (lvls 80, 71, 73, 40) but I think we are going to start new characters when the xpac hits 
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On February 14 2010 04:14 meRz wrote:
Bah! US servers :< I would've gladly joined but I've got both of my 80 chars at an EU server.
Yah, Midian and I both have level 70 chars on EU servers too, just waiting for the day they will open cross region transfers 
Heh, come start a level 1 and talk about SC, WoW and Poker in guild chat with us >.>
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Ugh, Team Liquid guild. I've always wanted one of those.
I quit last March, and have had absolutely no desire to go back since then.... why must you do this to me?
And I know what you mean about the community. I originally played on US oceanic servers with some internet friends. The guild I joined was a zerg guild, that eventually had over 500 players (as that was the display cap), but when I first joined, it was a great newbie guild. I leveled quickly to 60, and was active in the guild. I became an officer, and stayed with the guild for a few months. We had talked about doing things, but a lot of the players were really bad, as helpful as they all were. After thinking back and forth, I left the guild and joined a raiding guild.
Probably my best WoW time right here. BC was still over 6 months away, and I had a great deal of fun raiding. I loved the people I was playing with, and still talk to some of them this day. They were all moderately skilled, but drama eventually tore the guild apart. And since leaving that guild, I went back and forth between friendly guilds, with newbies, and guilds that had pretty cool, focused, and skilled players; unfortunately, drama always tore those guilds apart.
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oh goody I might xfer then, my bg is crap and my server has like 30 alliance if not less
edit: lolwut 1k post wasted on this nooooes.
how's your server btw? easy to find pugs?
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tempts me to play again =[
i quit after i levelled a night elf DK to 80 in a week or so, left because i couldn't find a guild i could mix in with. before that i played with my brother on silvermoon, it was a small guild and after a while i got bored with the 'family' feel of raiding.
AND NOW A TEAMLIQUID GUILD =[
edit: adding to that i'm too lazy to pay for an account again when i have no job so i'll need to leech off some poor soul (i did off equinox with my dk haha)
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On February 14 2010 04:19 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:oh goody I might xfer then, my bg is crap and my server has like 30 alliance if not less edit: lolwut 1k post wasted on this nooooes. how's your server btw? easy to find pugs?
Our population is pretty awesome. It's also 2:1 favor of horde. There are always pugs happening, I've done my VoA, and a bit of ICC 25man via pugs.. just today. Also, if anyone's into achievements, there are many people who do old vanilla raids too, just for kicks. Very active server, when I'm on and it's 3am server time, I'll still find a group to do SOME thing.
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On February 14 2010 04:24 lilsusie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 04:19 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:oh goody I might xfer then, my bg is crap and my server has like 30 alliance if not less edit: lolwut 1k post wasted on this nooooes. how's your server btw? easy to find pugs? Our population is pretty awesome. It's also 2:1 favor of horde. There are always pugs happening, I've done my VoA, and a bit of ICC 25man via pugs.. just today. Also, if anyone's into achievements, there are many people who do old vanilla raids too, just for kicks. Very active server, when I'm on and it's 3am server time, I'll still find a group to do SOME thing.
Aren't a lot of realms 2:1 horde alliance? Like my server tichondrius is littered with horde. I got ganked so many times when I was a low levels.
But alliance player on tichondrius, don't plan to move around server much.
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i know all of ICC 25 and 10 (and older stuff) except the lich king fight, ill level a DK or something to at least help out. Im raiding pretty often so im not sure how long it'll take me to get to 80 so bleh.
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I'm definitely interested, but yeah I play with friends on my Alliance server so I dunno if I can get them to make the switch, lol. I'll make an orc lock on your server and join the guild, but I'm not sure how actively I'll play him.
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Well, if any of you guys don't have guilds to play in due to inactivity, etc, it's only $25 to transfer servers 
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Ohh, you guys are on the same battlegroup as me! I wish I could transfer but I'd feel bad leaving my raid since finding a tank on this server is terrible. I'm definitely going to start an alt there though!
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Awww a little to late for me. WoW has gone down hill so quickly that I eventually had to quit. I hope it works out for you guys though
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On February 14 2010 04:45 lilsusie wrote:Well, if any of you guys don't have guilds to play in due to inactivity, etc, it's only $25 to transfer servers
I'm on EU....
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Do any of you guys actively play Arena? My brother is a super glad, and usually sits around 24-2600 rating. I can ask him if he is interested in joining, since he is pretty bored atm.
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hmmm, this is actually tempting me to start playing again
I had a lvl 60 priest before BC, really enjoyed doing 5 man instances, but eventually quit when I reached 60 and found out that 40-man raids are just hours of utter boredom and you basically have to throw your life away to be in good guilds.
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I JUST started playing a week or two ago with a friend from uni as horde too. Too bad I'm on Burning Blade =[
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Hmmm, I talked to Jamie a while ago, and he was telling me about this. So I might give it a go, hopefully I can have enough time for this though :|
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On February 14 2010 05:13 Dknight wrote:
I JUST started playing a week or two ago with a friend from uni as horde too. Too bad I'm on Burning Blade =[
Scotty, I'm on burning blade ;O it's dead now, I would just transfer.
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Don't care. I'm playing with a friend and I'm not really into big raids or anything.
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I shall start a new char on there sometime today, prob wait till I see you online susie.
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we're in game now, watching tsl together and talking about it in guild chat. if you come tho, please no more dks
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On February 14 2010 05:02 Orome wrote:
hmmm, this is actually tempting me to start playing again
I had a lvl 60 priest before BC, really enjoyed doing 5 man instances, but eventually quit when I reached 60 and found out that 40-man raids are just hours of utter boredom and you basically have to throw your life away to be in good guilds.
WOTLK says hi!
They made raids a lot more accessible in the last expansion; basically anyone can do the easy modes in raids and get some of the bosses down. They also made it faster and less grindy. Raiding=fun now.
And there is still Lich King hard mode for top end guilds to bust their balls on, lol.
BTW midian/susie, what are your toon names? I'll add you as friends and send a tell when I see you.
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Midian wrote it on the OP. we are Impinge and Khariana - we'll be on until end of tsl tonight (its 6am) but not gonna be on during sunday since it's valentine's day and we're going out. but during the week, jamie's always always always on.
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Bah, hordes!
I am a proud gnome who would gladly migrate to that server if I was in the USA.
Musoi of Bloodfeather (casual but descent if i should rate myself).
+ Show Spoiler +I'd gank you guys all day 8D
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So tempting... to play WoW with the TL community. Argh... The choices! I hope you guys will stay around for Cata T-T
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very tempting. I quit about 6 months ago because my guild fell apart, and I really didn't feel like trying to find a new one for the same reasons you mentioned, having to choose between playing with assholes who could actually progress or nice people who couldn't. Plus all my PvP friends quit and it is really hard to find good players who you play well with, especially on my server which is an RP-PvP server :\
Maybe I'll make a character on Bloodscalp with the 7 days of free time they've been offering me since I quit and see how it goes.
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Just made a character on bloodscalp.
BE Pally
name is glokta
Neither of you were on, so im going back to my mains for now.
Anyone whos interested in joining and does not have an account, should ask one of us with one to do the recruit a friend option to speed up leveling :p
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Oh well.This is bad. I'm moving to canada tomorrow, i thought i would quit playing wow while working abroad since i do hate playing with lag but this is so tempting.
Once i'm settled (it will take a couple of weeks) i'll try to come.
Oh and if we can manage to get a decent roaster, im up for anything in the game from vhl pve to raiding cities or dumb events.
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hmmmm do i really want to play another deathknight through outlands
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kewl, tl guild :S I'll think about transfering >_<
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anyone wanna do the recruit a friend scheme? ultra fast leveling etc :D
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On February 14 2010 05:58 lilsusie wrote:we're in game now, watching tsl together and talking about it in guild chat. if you come tho, please no more dks
No more rogues either I heard.
On February 14 2010 07:42 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
hmmmm do i really want to play another deathknight through outlands
Oh god, outlands leveling is really annoying. I wouldn't do it. If you were going to level something to play make it a hunter. ^_^
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On February 14 2010 07:37 Groslouser wrote:
Oh well.This is bad. I'm moving to canada tomorrow, i thought i would quit playing wow while working abroad since i do hate playing with lag but this is so tempting.
Once i'm settled (it will take a couple of weeks) i'll try to come.
Oh and if we can manage to get a decent roaster, im up for anything in the game from vhl pve to raiding cities or dumb events.
TL HOSTED DUROTAR HIDE N' SEEK?
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NO NO NO
I WAS GOING TO QUIT DAMMIT ASASDHFASHDGH
I'm probably not going to transfer my 80 Mage over but I'll likely roll something else on your server for fun.
You should make a site or edit the OP with people who are interested and what classes they're playing so we can get a nice balance.
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Hah, I'd love to be a part of this. I'll shoot you a tell when I see one of you online.
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Oh lord, an excuse to play WoW again, just what I wanted! >.> Must resist...
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My account expires on the 21st.. I'm at a point where I can't get anything else from random dungeons for my prot/holy paladin and no guild/dead server
tempting
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On February 14 2010 07:59 SnowFantasy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 14 2010 07:37 Groslouser wrote:
Oh well.This is bad. I'm moving to canada tomorrow, i thought i would quit playing wow while working abroad since i do hate playing with lag but this is so tempting.
Once i'm settled (it will take a couple of weeks) i'll try to come.
Oh and if we can manage to get a decent roaster, im up for anything in the game from vhl pve to raiding cities or dumb events. TL HOSTED DUROTAR HIDE N' SEEK?
Now we're talking. Screw my resolutions.
I can play any class/role with a preference for raid healing characters. Since my mains are sham/lock/hunt i probably wont play these, so drood or war it will be i think unless there is a need for something specific.
I'll try to get everything packed asap.
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i'd like to join but i'm currently playing on an eu server so i can't even hang with an alt ;o
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this is tempting.
maybe this summer..
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i already made a DK there but seeing the ridiculous amount of DKs i can change to priest, warr or something else. i know how to play most classes at heroic raiding lvl (not shammies or locks) so ill just roll whatever you guys want.
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On February 14 2010 07:56 SnowFantasy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 05:58 lilsusie wrote:we're in game now, watching tsl together and talking about it in guild chat. if you come tho, please no more dks No more rogues either I heard. Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 07:42 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
hmmmm do i really want to play another deathknight through outlands Oh god, outlands leveling is really annoying. I wouldn't do it. If you were going to level something to play make it a hunter. ^_^
i have a hunter already, it is level 17 and i play it when i feel like standing around next to a crab
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On February 14 2010 07:54 lazz wrote:
anyone wanna do the recruit a friend scheme? ultra fast leveling etc :D
I invite you? i already have an account, not gonna pay for two lol
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I'll level up a shaman. If it seems like we "need" something different I wouldn't have an issue switching as, quite frankly, for as long as I've played all of the classes/specs blend together after a while.
name of : Baconistasty
Been so long since I've played a horde toon, forgot all about which quest hubs to which.
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On February 14 2010 08:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 07:54 lazz wrote:
anyone wanna do the recruit a friend scheme? ultra fast leveling etc :D I invite you? i already have an account, not gonna pay for two lol
you dont have to pay for anything! just send the email invite to me, i sign up, we level together and get 3x experience gain :D
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On February 14 2010 08:28 lazz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 08:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On February 14 2010 07:54 lazz wrote:
anyone wanna do the recruit a friend scheme? ultra fast leveling etc :D I invite you? i already have an account, not gonna pay for two lol you dont have to pay for anything! just send the email invite to me, i sign up, we level together and get 3x experience gain :D
ahh, thought the way it normally worked is whoever you invite had to buy an account or the like .
hook me up with your email and i shall sent the invite.
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no more rogues!? /wrists
Oh well, I'll prolly transfer my warrior then
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EU please, i'll carry you to 2.4k.
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saw someone named gottaskate, assuming they are from tl
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I made... another Mage 
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patch lawl, i think ill hang out with you guys until my account runs out, im currently jobless so I cant afford anything since im payng for school with my leftover savings/paychecks
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On February 14 2010 08:40 eNoq wrote:
EU please, i'll carry you to 2.4k.
Carry me plz, Stormscale Horde, Kazzak Horde and Aerie Peak Alliance.
plzz m8?
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You guys should play Allods with us too when open beta starts^^. I just created a topic about it, and it's freeeeeee :D
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Damn would be a great community as a guild. I have been guild master of my raiding guild for 5 years though (Teh Slax of horde Ursin) so I can't leave obviously. Good luck though with ICC and having fun :D
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On February 14 2010 06:03 GGQ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 05:02 Orome wrote:
hmmm, this is actually tempting me to start playing again
I had a lvl 60 priest before BC, really enjoyed doing 5 man instances, but eventually quit when I reached 60 and found out that 40-man raids are just hours of utter boredom and you basically have to throw your life away to be in good guilds. WOTLK says hi! They made raids a lot more accessible in the last expansion; basically anyone can do the easy modes in raids and get some of the bosses down. They also made it faster and less grindy. Raiding=fun now. And there is still Lich King hard mode for top end guilds to bust their balls on, lol. BTW midian/susie, what are your toon names? I'll add you as friends and send a tell when I see you.
ah man, stop tempting me! =(
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WoW & SC are my two favorite things, this is something i'd definately be interested in. Currently i'm running on the new winterhoof server with an 80 lock on the alliance side. I love my warlock and it's pretty much the only character I play.. I am a very good raider I do sick DPS =) (over 5K easily, my character's name is Nevic you can look me up on Wow-Heroes I have pretty good gear)
I'm having a hard time finding a good raiding guild on winterhoof, probably cause it's a new server. I've been thinking about switching... how many people do you have currently? Are you guys raiding ICC yet?? 25 or 10 man?? If you need a good ranged DPS I'd be willing to do a server & faction switch, but only if you guys are seriously into raiding. My main goal right now is to get to end game content and I'm finding it hard to find a good raiding guild ...
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Still accepting totally baller level 80 priests? Because I have a troll without a home.
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I made a female tauren druid named Eagerbeaver but no one from the guild was on
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eh
I was in gentlemens club as a raider until last month. Current content is such a joke it's embarrassing for Blizzard. All hard modes with the exception of Lich King were killed in the first week of them being available.
WoW really sucks right now, it's a huge waste of time
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Man Cho'gall, I use know a lot of PvP-ers on that server when cross realm battlegrounds opened up.
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Holy shit khariana was lilsusie? I was old school bloodscalp pre-BC in Crimson Banditios / Resurgence Theory. Small world.
Edit: Baller troll rogue Zora <--
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ToT)MidiaN(
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On February 14 2010 10:13 stk01001 wrote:
WoW & SC are my two favorite things, this is something i'd definately be interested in. Currently i'm running on the new winterhoof server with an 80 lock on the alliance side. I love my warlock and it's pretty much the only character I play.. I am a very good raider I do sick DPS =) (over 5K easily, my character's name is Nevic you can look me up on Wow-Heroes I have pretty good gear)
I'm having a hard time finding a good raiding guild on winterhoof, probably cause it's a new server. I've been thinking about switching... how many people do you have currently? Are you guys raiding ICC yet?? 25 or 10 man?? If you need a good ranged DPS I'd be willing to do a server & faction switch, but only if you guys are seriously into raiding. My main goal right now is to get to end game content and I'm finding it hard to find a good raiding guild ...
I'm serious about raiding and lilsusie raids when she has time. I would say yes, go ahead and transfer but we won't be guild raiding until we have enough people to do so, and that may be a while depending.
Currently everyone who has joined has just made a new character and naturally it's gonna take people a decent amount of time to go from level 1 to 80 and get geared for raids, probably a month at the least especially when you consider most of them have mains on other servers that they're likely gonna spend time on.
To get raiding started any time soon we really need people like you to move servers...
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On February 14 2010 12:29 MiniRoman wrote:
Holy shit khariana was lilsusie? I was old school bloodscalp pre-BC in Crimson Banditios / Resurgence Theory. Small world.
Edit: Baller troll rogue Zora <--
ZORA!!! <3 wtf? small world indeed!
oh and I was kidding >.> about no more rogues. my main is a rogue so I'm gonna have to be selective.... >.>
If anyone wants to start playing a new account, please let me know so I can invite you and you can get 3x experience for hanging out with me! Actually I just want the zebra mount
OH! and for those of you who haven't played in a while, you get your first mount at 20, epic at 40 and they are both really freakin cheap. leveing is really fast too, esp with the new LFG feature that allows you to do instances with people from cross servers.
It would be better if you guys could revive old chars and transfer them over but I also know that it's $25 to tranfer, $30 to change faction. We are pretty serious in making this guild happen and not just be casual - come over and help create something amazing I think people are waiting to see if this guild gets any bigger before deciding on moving characters or what not, and while I understand the caution, remember that the only way for us to grow is to take initiative.
As for playing hours. Jamie is nearly on all the time from 10am to when we go to bed. That roughly translates to 7pm EST to 9-10am EST. All raids are gonna have to be at 7 EST which is 5 server time. (we are on MST) I will be able to contribute more in May when I quit my job but until then, I'll just be online from work, chatting (the work computer doesn't allow me to raid ^_^)
On weekends, we stay up later so... can do guild bgs or world pvp, achievements, etc.
Hope you guys come join us, what could be better than a place to go to geek out with fellow sc fanatics and perhaps learn a bit about poker while you're at it? <3
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This sounds great!! but... sc2 beta yo.
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This sounds great! I've been thinking about playing again I'll transfer over sometime after next the next server maintenance
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Would be tempted but time zone differences to the US servers are never healthy
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Maybe I'll join when I get paid by the end of the month.
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Ahh this would be so fun for me at another time in my life. It was just a few months ago in September I was doing 6k DPS. Not a chance of me playing WoW now though =/
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Man, I played vanilla WoW on Bloodscalp Horde. Roxen, mage. I was in a guild called Dark Pheonix (I think, or something similar), it was a small raiding guild. Only cleared upto BWL but it was the only guild raiding Australian time which is why I eventually transferred off.
I just think the game has gotten awful now. =/ I tried playing a few weeks ago when Blizz gave me 7 free days and found it pretty bad. It would be really awesome to raid with TL/LP members though. I hope you guys start clearing content soon! Good luck.
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I signed up for a free week recently. Didn't bother installing; just enjoyed my week posted on the forums. >_>
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anyone who can should do the raf system. Me and iazz leveled like, 11 or 12 times in like an hour and a half or some nonsense. insane experiences boost from killing shite and from quest turn ins is just broken. If it also works in dungeons, its just unfair :p
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refer a friend made leveling ridiculous ;x got on yesterday for first time since wotlk came out and seems like leveling somehow was made even easier and faster than back then (and it was already fast then). soon mounts will be given at level 1 for free, and you gain experience for afking!
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On February 14 2010 15:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
anyone who can should do the raf system. Me and iazz leveled like, 11 or 12 times in like an hour and a half or some nonsense. insane experiences boost from killing shite and from quest turn ins is just broken. If it also works in dungeons, its just unfair :p
Someone has to start a new account for that to work, though, right?
edit- also I've got a level 80 Pally tank sitting at about 4600 gearscore that I never play. Maybe I'll just keep my main where it is and transfer the pally. Money sucks, though =/. I'll see how long it takes me to level
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On February 14 2010 15:39 dyren wrote:
Choose life.
Says the guy who's posting on a game forum. WoW is a game, just like Starcraft and we're not asking people for their souls, just a few nights a week. Such elitists, some of you.
Anyway we have 10 players so far. Most are low level tho - and a few said they will be transferring their mains here. A lot of you said it's tempting; if you're not currently in a set guild and just wanna have fun and wanna pick up where you left off, come transfer over. once we got 10-15 solid level 80's we can start doing 10 mans. Like i posted earlier, raids would be at 7pm EST - days can be determined by those willing to put in 2-3 hours.
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I'm consdering reactivating my 80 Dwarf Hunter, transferring, and changing factions for this. Sounds fun
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Ugh, this is so tempting. Too bad there's no US<>EU transfer. Then again I swore off wow after raiding pretty hardcore for a few years, shit is way too addictive if you have nothing else going on.
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I haven't played in some time. I quit several months before WOTLK, but the idea of a TL guild almost makes me want to give the game another shot.
I understand quite a bit has changed since I quit (I would certainly hope so with an expansion and a LOT of patches). It's not like I couldn't look this information up elsewhere, but could anyone provide me with a very brief rundown of what exactly changed since 70 that would make me interested again? I would be returning from the perspective of someone who played entirely too much in the past, but would be interested in some casual raiding / pvp / etc if I were to return.
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Anyone interested in forming TL guild on some Europe server ? ;]
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Oh man just transfered to Thaurissan like a month ago to play with a friend who apparently quit 2 weeks after I transferred there.. what a waste. Anyway, would be a nice idea to have a bunch of TL people in WoW.
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On February 14 2010 15:27 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:
refer a friend made leveling ridiculous ;x got on yesterday for first time since wotlk came out and seems like leveling somehow was made even easier and faster than back then (and it was already fast then). soon mounts will be given at level 1 for free, and you gain experience for afking!
what would make my life so much easier :p
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I'm definitely considering making a new character on your server for this. I used to play a warlock and pally, both of which I've raided with (in WotLK, and previously, although not since Patch 3.1). I think me and one of my friends who plays starcraft, but has never played WoW, will do RAF and we can get you guys two radiers much faster than I'd have been able to get you one.
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Lol, this is so tempting... I had a 70 pre-WOTLK and did mostly arena, although I think I can pick up raiding pretty quickly. My main peeve with the game was the community, but this guild negates that, and the time sink. It felt that every time I got a nice new item, another tier came out and made my item crap I wonder - how many hours will I need to dedicate to this game per week to be able to help out and/or get decently geared?
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I would transfer my holy priest to raid with you guys, but I would have to faction change, and transfer. :/
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Curious if you guys have ran guilds before?
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I'm here for the week only.. I kinda quit in july but I took blizzard up on the 7 free days of play so I'm back on my level 80 Shaman on Auchindoun.. Frankly, it's on EU servers >.< But I would have loved to join in!
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I think I might get back on, haven't played in like 6 months. I got a few 80's on Mal'Ganis but don't really feel like spending $25 to transfer, so guess ill start a new guy .
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Playing right now. Starting a mage (troll). On Bloodscalp for the next few hours under cfdeekay. PLAY WITH MEEEEEEEE ^_^
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why this didn't happen before =[
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Not to be a dick, but just to get a sense - what are people's raiding experiences?
Susie/midian - have you guys done ICC? How far? Just asking, as I would be interested in rerolling.
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Its not like ICC is hard, just requires a certain level of non-retardation.
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On February 15 2010 03:49 Red_Storm wrote:
Its not like ICC is hard, just requires a certain level of non-retardation.
Like every other raid.
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I'm really tempted, but I doubt i'll play much WoW once SC2 Beta starts this month
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You should train SF4 jamie and beat dan at bet games, that's what you should do :D
Hi susie!
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On February 15 2010 03:40 naventus wrote:
Not to be a dick, but just to get a sense - what are people's raiding experiences?
Susie/midian - have you guys done ICC? How far? Just asking, as I would be interested in rerolling.
We both completed the first wing of ICC10 when in a casual guild that was full of very mediocre players. We are capable of doing more than that for sure, but were held back by those guys. I personally have also downed the 3 princes and the green dragon in 25 man in a different guild's runs, but I was somewhat carried on those occasions I guess since I was way more undergeared than everyone else in raid even though my skill performance was as high as anyone's.
I'm certainly capable of not standing in fire, and it seems like that's all that is really necessary for progress in pretty much any raid nowadays :O We just need more people really. Particularly people who are also capable of not standing in fire.
On February 15 2010 03:54 iD.NicKy wrote:
You should train SF4 jamie and beat dan at bet games, that's what you should do :D
Hi susie!
Haha, last time he came over I beat him like 6:1 when I just came back to Korea after my trip to England, he wasn't happy :D Unfortunately there was no money on the line
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On February 15 2010 02:31 Judicator wrote:
Curious if you guys have ran guilds before?
lilsusie was officer and raid leader in DPS guild back in 05 (?) or so. She can clarify exactly when, but she has experience with raid leading and running guilds for sure, no real need to worry about that.
Though, I'm not entirely sure why you ask anyway? What it is that you think would make it hard for us to manage the guild? If it's time, well I'm logging minimum 6 hours a day since I play poker for a living and don't even play poker much nowadays as I'm totally bored of it, and she's logging 2+ hours a day after she gets back from work on weekdays to do her dailies and randoms dungeon etc and more hours than that on weekends, providing we have no prior arrangements or nerd gatherings etc to attend to. If it's something else that may be bothering you, I'd like to hear cause I dunno what you'd be worried about.
I'm certainly open to suggestions and reccomendations as I don't have experience running this type of thing myself, but right now it really just comes down to recruiting the players. We have about 11~12 players signed up already, but they're all alts so if we're thinking about raiding any time soon we either need to give these guys time to get to 80 and gear up or we need a lot more people to start transferring mains or 80 alts to Bloodscalp.
I think it's just a matter of time though, many people have been signing up and showing interest in a short period of time, and the idea is only 24~ hours old. Jump on the bandwagon! The more the merrier
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I was in one of the top 20 US guilds(they've fallen down the rankings a bit haven't gotten LK yet) for about 6 months back in the Ulduar Patch then I quit because of school. All my toons are alliance and this is intriguing. What kind of classes are you guys looking for.
I've also done a bit of raid leading and been GM of 2 guilds if leadership ability is needed.
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A roster of 11-12 people sounds fine.
Maybe it would be helpful to put together a list of classes and experience. It would suck to reroll/transfer when the class doesn't fit raid comp (if the goal is end game raiding).
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I'm xferring in 2 tuesdays (not the one coming, the one after)
^_^
ima carry you susie
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you know.. I think I'm gonna go ahead and give this a shot =) I'll probably transfer my character over within the next few weeks. I'm not going to be able to be very active until after mid april cause of my job (tax accountant)... but I've always wanted to try out horde anyway and I'm not very happy with Winterhoof.. so you can count on having some very good ranged DPS at some point =) I'll let you guys know when I do end up making the transfer. (any suggestions on what race I should go with for my lock on horde side? currently i'm a gnome but I'm assuming I have to change races right?.. I'm thinking undead.. although what race would you say has the best perk for locks?)
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On February 15 2010 04:38 ToT)MidiaN( wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2010 02:31 Judicator wrote:
Curious if you guys have ran guilds before? lilsusie was officer and raid leader in DPS guild back in 05 (?) or so. She can clarify exactly when, but she has experience with raid leading and running guilds for sure, no real need to worry about that. Though, I'm not entirely sure why you ask anyway? What it is that you think would make it hard for us to manage the guild? If it's time, well I'm logging minimum 6 hours a day since I play poker for a living and don't even play poker much nowadays as I'm totally bored of it, and she's logging 2+ hours a day after she gets back from work on weekdays to do her dailies and randoms dungeon etc and more hours than that on weekends, providing we have no prior arrangements or nerd gatherings etc to attend to. If it's something else that may be bothering you, I'd like to hear cause I dunno what you'd be worried about. I'm certainly open to suggestions and reccomendations as I don't have experience running this type of thing myself, but right now it really just comes down to recruiting the players. We have about 11~12 players signed up already, but they're all alts so if we're thinking about raiding any time soon we either need to give these guys time to get to 80 and gear up or we need a lot more people to start transferring mains or 80 alts to Bloodscalp. I think it's just a matter of time though, many people have been signing up and showing interest in a short period of time, and the idea is only 24~ hours old. Jump on the bandwagon! The more the merrier
Running a 25+ man guild isn't easy and managing 25+ people and raid slots aren't easy. Especially when things don't go as planned or well. There's alot of shit that just comes up and after a while it wears down the best of them.
I have noticed that while more guilds are raiding at a semi-serious level since BC/WotLK, the turnover rate on guilds collapsing and forming with any sort of notable progression has been high as well (at least on the 2 servers I have been on, one Alliance dominated and the other Horde).
Just wondering if you guys know what you are getting into, because I know it seems like a great idea right now, it might not be a month or 2 down the line. I know plenty of players from top3 server guilds who broke off and tried to do their own guild and it never panned out to anything. Same for server transfers of guilds.
Here's the problem I do have though, when exactly will be your raid times (face it, this game and your guild will be raid-driven)? How will you distribute loot (the great guild crusher and choosing a proper system will be important)? You should give some concrete information along those lines so those transferring wouldn't be making a leap of faith (let's hope it works out) or those leveling will have something to look forward to. Yes, I know you and susie want it to work out, but guilds don't always.
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Blah... I'm on US-Firetree...
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On February 15 2010 07:57 Judicator wrote:
Here's the problem I do have though, when exactly will be your raid times (face it, this game and your guild will be raid-driven)? How will you distribute loot (the great guild crusher and choosing a proper system will be important)? You should give some concrete information along those lines so those transferring wouldn't be making a leap of faith (let's hope it works out) or those leveling will have something to look forward to. Yes, I know you and susie want it to work out, but guilds don't always.
Way to make what sounds like a really fun venture sound like something really boring.
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i am wishbones on this server now, i just made a new blood elf account, who knows maybe ill start playing again, i have a level 22 on the other server.
"Newbiest msg of the day goes to"
meeeee!
but seriously i did make the account and im a blood elf, oh paladin. never used that yet.
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But seriously, with Harmonium transferring off the server I could easily see TL.net being the #1 guild on Bloodscalp. The server is just... really fucking bad at progressing. Harmonium sucked, too, and they were far ahead of everyone else.
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On February 15 2010 08:10 Red_Storm wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2010 07:57 Judicator wrote:
Here's the problem I do have though, when exactly will be your raid times (face it, this game and your guild will be raid-driven)? How will you distribute loot (the great guild crusher and choosing a proper system will be important)? You should give some concrete information along those lines so those transferring wouldn't be making a leap of faith (let's hope it works out) or those leveling will have something to look forward to. Yes, I know you and susie want it to work out, but guilds don't always. Way to make what sounds like a really fun venture sound like something really boring.
Better boring than frustrating.
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On February 15 2010 08:45 Judicator wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2010 08:10 Red_Storm wrote:On February 15 2010 07:57 Judicator wrote:
Here's the problem I do have though, when exactly will be your raid times (face it, this game and your guild will be raid-driven)? How will you distribute loot (the great guild crusher and choosing a proper system will be important)? You should give some concrete information along those lines so those transferring wouldn't be making a leap of faith (let's hope it works out) or those leveling will have something to look forward to. Yes, I know you and susie want it to work out, but guilds don't always. Way to make what sounds like a really fun venture sound like something really boring. Better boring than frustrating.
I agree with that. I ran a guild for about a month, and with everyone feeling they were entitled to something or another, it was an absolute pain in the ass.
Edit: Though I don't think that would be a problem with TL. Everyone shares a common interest, and while it's still possible there may be a few douchebags, the majority of the community has a good head on them, and I think it will translate well into the guild.
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zero sum dkp and lots of motivational speaches is what made my guild go through vanilla Naxx.
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On February 15 2010 08:56 So no fek wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2010 08:45 Judicator wrote:On February 15 2010 08:10 Red_Storm wrote:On February 15 2010 07:57 Judicator wrote:
Here's the problem I do have though, when exactly will be your raid times (face it, this game and your guild will be raid-driven)? How will you distribute loot (the great guild crusher and choosing a proper system will be important)? You should give some concrete information along those lines so those transferring wouldn't be making a leap of faith (let's hope it works out) or those leveling will have something to look forward to. Yes, I know you and susie want it to work out, but guilds don't always. Way to make what sounds like a really fun venture sound like something really boring. Better boring than frustrating. I agree with that. I ran a guild for about a month, and with everyone feeling they were entitled to something or another, it was an absolute pain in the ass. Edit: Though I don't think that would be a problem with TL. Everyone shares a common interest, and while it's still possible there may be a few douchebags, the majority of the community has a good head on them, and I think it will translate well into the guild.
That's the key. I've ran 2 raiding guilds. One for about 6 months and my current one for about a year and a half. It's more about people with the same goals in mind than about ability, dkp, schedule, etc. If the people you have all share the same goal and mindset; you'll do fine.
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On February 15 2010 09:13 I_Love_Bacon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2010 08:56 So no fek wrote:On February 15 2010 08:45 Judicator wrote:On February 15 2010 08:10 Red_Storm wrote:On February 15 2010 07:57 Judicator wrote:
Here's the problem I do have though, when exactly will be your raid times (face it, this game and your guild will be raid-driven)? How will you distribute loot (the great guild crusher and choosing a proper system will be important)? You should give some concrete information along those lines so those transferring wouldn't be making a leap of faith (let's hope it works out) or those leveling will have something to look forward to. Yes, I know you and susie want it to work out, but guilds don't always. Way to make what sounds like a really fun venture sound like something really boring. Better boring than frustrating. I agree with that. I ran a guild for about a month, and with everyone feeling they were entitled to something or another, it was an absolute pain in the ass. Edit: Though I don't think that would be a problem with TL. Everyone shares a common interest, and while it's still possible there may be a few douchebags, the majority of the community has a good head on them, and I think it will translate well into the guild. That's the key. I've ran 2 raiding guilds. One for about 6 months and my current one for about a year and a half. It's more about people with the same goals in mind than about ability, dkp, schedule, etc. If the people you have all share the same goal and mindset; you'll do fine.
No ability and competence has everything to do with succeeding at end game raiding. Having the common goal of progression is nice but you can't have 8 shitty players and expect to down bosses even as easy as this game has gotten.
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On February 14 2010 20:22 Slox wrote:
I haven't played in some time. I quit several months before WOTLK, but the idea of a TL guild almost makes me want to give the game another shot.
I understand quite a bit has changed since I quit (I would certainly hope so with an expansion and a LOT of patches). It's not like I couldn't look this information up elsewhere, but could anyone provide me with a very brief rundown of what exactly changed since 70 that would make me interested again? I would be returning from the perspective of someone who played entirely too much in the past, but would be interested in some casual raiding / pvp / etc if I were to return.
I'd like to second that request, expect I want to know what happened since vanilla WoW.^^
Also, would I need to buy every expansion or just 1?
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On February 15 2010 09:28 iSiN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2010 09:13 I_Love_Bacon wrote:On February 15 2010 08:56 So no fek wrote:On February 15 2010 08:45 Judicator wrote:On February 15 2010 08:10 Red_Storm wrote:On February 15 2010 07:57 Judicator wrote:
Here's the problem I do have though, when exactly will be your raid times (face it, this game and your guild will be raid-driven)? How will you distribute loot (the great guild crusher and choosing a proper system will be important)? You should give some concrete information along those lines so those transferring wouldn't be making a leap of faith (let's hope it works out) or those leveling will have something to look forward to. Yes, I know you and susie want it to work out, but guilds don't always. Way to make what sounds like a really fun venture sound like something really boring. Better boring than frustrating. I agree with that. I ran a guild for about a month, and with everyone feeling they were entitled to something or another, it was an absolute pain in the ass. Edit: Though I don't think that would be a problem with TL. Everyone shares a common interest, and while it's still possible there may be a few douchebags, the majority of the community has a good head on them, and I think it will translate well into the guild. That's the key. I've ran 2 raiding guilds. One for about 6 months and my current one for about a year and a half. It's more about people with the same goals in mind than about ability, dkp, schedule, etc. If the people you have all share the same goal and mindset; you'll do fine. No ability and competence has everything to do with succeeding at end game raiding. Having the common goal of progression is nice but you can't have 8 shitty players and expect to down bosses even as easy as this game has gotten.
You read something from my post that wasn't there. The obvious implications of really, really bad players on a raiding guild is detrimental. But that's nothing new. That is beyond obvious, to a point that acknowledging it isn't even worthwhile. But even bad players can raid. Raiding isn't hard. But to succeed the people who are better and the people who are worse have to be on the same page as eachother. Better players who spend more time on their character, or the game in general, have to be ok w/ the guild and its priorities. If they're not; then it will fail.
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Now that I'm trying to level a new character, I'm really tempted to just up and transfer my Mage to your server :/
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stop suckin in glorious SC players to the abomination that is WoW!
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On February 15 2010 09:28 Orome wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 20:22 Slox wrote:
I haven't played in some time. I quit several months before WOTLK, but the idea of a TL guild almost makes me want to give the game another shot.
I understand quite a bit has changed since I quit (I would certainly hope so with an expansion and a LOT of patches). It's not like I couldn't look this information up elsewhere, but could anyone provide me with a very brief rundown of what exactly changed since 70 that would make me interested again? I would be returning from the perspective of someone who played entirely too much in the past, but would be interested in some casual raiding / pvp / etc if I were to return. I'd like to second that request, expect I want to know what happened since vanilla WoW.^^ Also, would I need to buy every expansion or just 1?
The only thing you need to know:
They destroyed wall jumping.
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On February 15 2010 09:28 iSiN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2010 09:13 I_Love_Bacon wrote:On February 15 2010 08:56 So no fek wrote:On February 15 2010 08:45 Judicator wrote:On February 15 2010 08:10 Red_Storm wrote:On February 15 2010 07:57 Judicator wrote:
Here's the problem I do have though, when exactly will be your raid times (face it, this game and your guild will be raid-driven)? How will you distribute loot (the great guild crusher and choosing a proper system will be important)? You should give some concrete information along those lines so those transferring wouldn't be making a leap of faith (let's hope it works out) or those leveling will have something to look forward to. Yes, I know you and susie want it to work out, but guilds don't always. Way to make what sounds like a really fun venture sound like something really boring. Better boring than frustrating. I agree with that. I ran a guild for about a month, and with everyone feeling they were entitled to something or another, it was an absolute pain in the ass. Edit: Though I don't think that would be a problem with TL. Everyone shares a common interest, and while it's still possible there may be a few douchebags, the majority of the community has a good head on them, and I think it will translate well into the guild. That's the key. I've ran 2 raiding guilds. One for about 6 months and my current one for about a year and a half. It's more about people with the same goals in mind than about ability, dkp, schedule, etc. If the people you have all share the same goal and mindset; you'll do fine. No ability and competence has everything to do with succeeding at end game raiding. Having the common goal of progression is nice but you can't have 8 shitty players and expect to down bosses even as easy as this game has gotten.
Lol you can have some pretty horrible players and succeed at end game raiding these days.
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On February 15 2010 08:10 Red_Storm wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2010 07:57 Judicator wrote:
Here's the problem I do have though, when exactly will be your raid times (face it, this game and your guild will be raid-driven)? How will you distribute loot (the great guild crusher and choosing a proper system will be important)? You should give some concrete information along those lines so those transferring wouldn't be making a leap of faith (let's hope it works out) or those leveling will have something to look forward to. Yes, I know you and susie want it to work out, but guilds don't always. Way to make what sounds like a really fun venture sound like something really boring.
wow this one made me laugh pretty hard, cus it pretty much sums up the whole WoW experience imo ^^
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I'd love to join and raid with you guys but I'm fairly committed to a 10-man raiding guild that is actually a bunch of good people (which apparently is a rarity in the WOW world).
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I made a character and PMed someone in the guild, but there were no officers on.
Keep an eye out for me, my character is Anomalous; I roled a druid. (Plus, with the help of some people with higher level toons, I should be able to level even faster.)
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DKP divided amongst members based off of the prices spent on items dropped seemed the best way. My guild had officers for each class and the members within the classes were all really close and everyone generally had an idea of what would go to whom. DKP was hardly ever an issue. A good close knit guild shouldn't have problems handing out loot. If you do then thats a shitty sign for your guild.
God damn past memories I miss my old guild; a great bunch of people.
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I was in a guild that was comprised of all real life friends and family. We were together for almost 4 years; the core group never changed. We were possibly best horde side guild for a long time, lots of first in vanilla.
As for raiding, I think a few people have said that they have raiding experience. I understand that everyone wants to contribute but I'm going to assume that most people who will be playing with the <Team Liquid> tag ARE NOT DOUCHE BAGS AND CAN FOLD THEIR PRIDE FOR THE BETTER GOOD FOR THE GUILD.
Once things look like it will be rolling, I will be setting up a website (nothing too huge, just a place to let us know what's going on when, etc) and writing out a 10 commandment, if you will.
As harsh as the moderation is here on TL, I expect the same amount of respect within guild. We are starting this guild to become a community, and online family - and if you're gonna shit on your family, then I will kick you out.
Also, if you have noticed, we are not asking for zomgwtfbbq amazing raiders to join. What makes a guild is the wanting for progress TOGETHER not for your own personal gain. I'm sure many of you have been in nice yet boring guilds or great progress but asshole loot whore drama guilds.
We should all be mature enough to deal with things through communication -
RAID TIMES WILL MOST LIKELY BE between 7 and 8PM EST. They will NOT be every night - 3 evenings at most. I understand that raiding can be a burden, thus there will not be a "must raid" policy. But if you are a raider (or become a part of the core group) please have the decency to let us know not to wait on you earlier in the week.
I will be a LOT more active in May. As for now, I will need to appoint 2 people to lead raids, 2 people who can work together. >.<
In the beginning we will just enforce a master looted, need over greed, roll off for people who want a certain piece. For now it's just about finding our player base and getting to know one another. When we start doing 25 mans, and beyond, we can enable a dkp system.
I just want us to have fun, guys. Having a guild for me was about having a place to go to actually speak with friends, when you wanna talk about the amazing OSL/MSL/Proleague game (without refreshing TL hehe), to find lowbies to gank, etc.
Instead of asking how shitty it might become, why not come and make it the great guild it CAN be instead? Midian and I are open to suggestions and comments, we're not going to be jerk GMs who don't care what people want.
/w Zora <3!!
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Why are you trying to hard to tempt me back into the game, Susie?
I really hope the Team Liquid guild succeeds, but I haven't had any interest to go back to the game for almost a year now and now it's suddenly nagging at me.
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On February 15 2010 14:35 lilsusie wrote:
I was in a guild that was comprised of all real life friends and family. We were together for almost 4 years; the core group never changed. We were possibly best horde side guild for a long time, lots of first in vanilla.
As for raiding, I think a few people have said that they have raiding experience. I understand that everyone wants to contribute but I'm going to assume that most people who will be playing with the <Team Liquid> tag ARE NOT DOUCHE BAGS AND CAN FOLD THEIR PRIDE FOR THE BETTER GOOD FOR THE GUILD.
Once things look like it will be rolling, I will be setting up a website (nothing too huge, just a place to let us know what's going on when, etc) and writing out a 10 commandment, if you will.
As harsh as the moderation is here on TL, I expect the same amount of respect within guild. We are starting this guild to become a community, and online family - and if you're gonna shit on your family, then I will kick you out.
Also, if you have noticed, we are not asking for zomgwtfbbq amazing raiders to join. What makes a guild is the wanting for progress TOGETHER not for your own personal gain. I'm sure many of you have been in nice yet boring guilds or great progress but asshole loot whore drama guilds.
We should all be mature enough to deal with things through communication -
RAID TIMES WILL MOST LIKELY BE between 7 and 8PM EST. They will NOT be every night - 3 evenings at most. I understand that raiding can be a burden, thus there will not be a "must raid" policy. But if you are a raider (or become a part of the core group) please have the decency to let us know not to wait on you earlier in the week.
I will be a LOT more active in May. As for now, I will need to appoint 2 people to lead raids, 2 people who can work together. >.<
In the beginning we will just enforce a master looted, need over greed, roll off for people who want a certain piece. For now it's just about finding our player base and getting to know one another. When we start doing 25 mans, and beyond, we can enable a dkp system.
I just want us to have fun, guys. Having a guild for me was about having a place to go to actually speak with friends, when you wanna talk about the amazing OSL/MSL/Proleague game (without refreshing TL hehe), to find lowbies to gank, etc.
Instead of asking how shitty it might become, why not come and make it the great guild it CAN be instead? Midian and I are open to suggestions and comments, we're not going to be jerk GMs who don't care what people want.
/w Zora <3!!
<3 this post.
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Midian is a very bad man and I'm told he throws small children off of buildings.
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Is the TSL guild planning on putting together any quality arena teams, or will you just be raiding?
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On February 15 2010 15:52 esReveR wrote:
Is the TSL guild planning on putting together any quality arena teams, or will you just be raiding?
Yeah I might join you guys when I get some time off school this summer if there are a lot of pvpers. I stopped playing like the first month of s7 but I got 2300 in s6. I have 0 interest in pve though.
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On February 15 2010 15:52 esReveR wrote:
Is the TSL guild planning on putting together any quality arena teams, or will you just be raiding?
That's up to you guys. I'm sure some people are interested in PvP I know I am but with my 500 latency in Korea kinda sucks. Again, first and foremost this guild is for the people and community. Raiding is just one thing we would like to do. If you have friends in some shit guild and nothing to do, transfer over and start up a group. Help/teach us PvP is you want. Let's do guild BGs and roll some bitches.
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On February 15 2010 16:43 lilsusie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2010 15:52 esReveR wrote:
Is the TSL guild planning on putting together any quality arena teams, or will you just be raiding? Let's do guild BGs and roll some bitches.
My new sig.
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yeah I had a 2100 priest back in the day, pvp is pretty fun but to get glad etc you need top top end gear which is a huge grind ;/
but TL premade BGs would be way too fun :D
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Too bad its US server and the time would be a killer for europeans ;(
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On February 15 2010 15:49 Drowsy wrote:
Midian is a very bad man and I'm told he throws small children off of buildings.
<3
Long time no speak Isaac. You should def join, I'm not good at pvp by any means but I'd be up for playing some, and I'm sure more people will join/level who would be up for some pvping too.
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We got a vent server up and running now.
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susie we should oldschool 2s it up rogue/rogue stompdown lololol
I got to 2.3k in S2/S3 with it =3
edit: I'll make a toon later today, xferring next tuesday can't wait (gotta gdkp icc25 first though lolol)
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On February 15 2010 18:36 ToT)MidiaN( wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2010 15:49 Drowsy wrote:
Midian is a very bad man and I'm told he throws small children off of buildings. <3 Long time no speak Isaac. You should def join, I'm not good at pvp by any means but I'd be up for playing some, and I'm sure more people will join/level who would be up for some pvping too.
Doing BGs with friends is really fun :D
I'm not sure how active I'll be since I'm busy with college and my own main character, but I know this is going to be a fun aside and plan to be on often!
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Snet
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$55.00 to be able to raid with you guys.
Hmm... hmm...
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this sounds really fun might join you guys when the summer hits if you're still doing it and bring one or two ppl =)
keep TL guild strong! =D
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I've never raided before so. T_T How long does it usually take to do a raid in a night and what's the Dkp system you speak of! Also, what's the info for the vent server?
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On February 16 2010 02:09 Dknight wrote:
I've never raided before so. T_T How long does it usually take to do a raid in a night and what's the Dkp system you speak of! Also, what's the info for the vent server?
I'm not midian/lilsusie but I'll try to answer these for you.
1) It really depends. You can pretty much raid as long as you want. If you don't finish something one day you can pick up pretty much right where you left off later. We would probably only be doing it for a few hours (like 2 hours or so) each day we do raids.
2) The DKP system is basically a way to distribute gear from raids. You earn points for doing things and use them as a currency to buy the items. Compare this to free rolls where basically whoever wants the item rolls for it and the best roll wins.
3) The ventrilo server info is in our Guild Information window. Just open the guild tab on WoW then hit guild information and you should see it.
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Quick question, not neccassarely directly towards this thread, but I was just wondering, in some games you can have "duals" or play on eachothers accounts, so I was just wondering if Blizzard is strict on this, or is there any chance that I could play on someones account once in a while, maybe someone from us who has fixed playing times. I would be interested in paying for a month or 2, but will this get banned by blizzard or whoever is running wow these days? And also, is it possible to dl all the games up to the mest recent one on torrents or the wowsite?
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Blizzard is sometimes strict on it. They actually do check IP against known 3rd party farming sites.
However, they do give a warning the first time regardless of legal or illicit activity. So you should be fine.
And 2 hours for a raid is jokes. You will not be running 2 hours, you'll be running closer to 3 or 3.5 at least in blocks, 2 hours only works if everyone is on top of it (a wipe is about 15-30+ mins of nothingness).. Semi-serious (or semi-casual) guilds do about at least 9 hours per week in large blocks of time which depends on how many days of the week they plan on doing.
That's about the time commitment I would guess susie and midian are asking for if not more.
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lol I hated raiding with padalins with my warrior
oh look, great paladin looot, they get it
oh look great priest loot he fucking needs it
oh look great whatever for my warrior oh wait the paladin needs it again and wins that too
i know this isn't related to anything but fuck paladins
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On February 16 2010 03:17 travis wrote:
lol I hated raiding with padalins with my warrior
oh look, great paladin looot, they get it
oh look great priest loot he fucking needs it
oh look great whatever for my warrior oh wait the paladin needs it again and wins that too
i know this isn't related to anything but fuck paladins
Shouldn't be THAT much overlap recently. Otherwise you are just rolling with misinformed individuals.
Also this is one of those guild breaker situations. The "it's better for my class than yours" item rolling.
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I think Id be interested. I got two game cards for christmas even though I quit months ago. I was planning on starting up come cataclysm, but maybe Ill start an alt sooner.
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On February 16 2010 03:04 Judicator wrote:
Blizzard is sometimes strict on it. They actually do check IP against known 3rd party farming sites.
However, they do give a warning the first time regardless of legal or illicit activity. So you should be fine.
And 2 hours for a raid is jokes. You will not be running 2 hours, you'll be running closer to 3 or 3.5 at least in blocks, 2 hours only works if everyone is on top of it (a wipe is about 15-30+ mins of nothingness).. Semi-serious (or semi-casual) guilds do about at least 9 hours per week in large blocks of time which depends on how many days of the week they plan on doing.
That's about the time commitment I would guess susie and midian are asking for if not more.
How is a wipe 15-30minutes of nothingness? Walking back and rebuffing takes like 10min max. Especially if you're doing toc/togc. You're right outside the instance (takes 15 seconds to walk in) and all you have to do is click 3x on an npc to summon the boss again.
Two hours per raid day seems like more than enough for what we will be doing (at least right away).
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Jamie you're never on you scrub :[
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I have some questions regarding the invitation system, how does it work? do I have to buy the game first and then someone can invite me? or do you invite me first and then I buy the game?
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you can create and play a character on a trial account but im pretty sure they cant join guilds.
you will have to buy the game before we can do that.
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Bah, on the US servers! Lame.
I'm not fussed about playing on the US servers, but because of the time difference it would mean raiding would be unrealistic for me - starting past midnight and having to get up for work between 8:00-9:00am!
Of course, I could do raiding friday/weekends, but then I imagine most people wouldn't want to do that then...
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On February 16 2010 03:17 travis wrote:
lol I hated raiding with padalins with my warrior
oh look, great paladin looot, they get it
oh look great priest loot he fucking needs it
oh look great whatever for my warrior oh wait the paladin needs it again and wins that too
i know this isn't related to anything but fuck paladins
I played a paladin and loved to ninja warrior loot. Rolled a warrior after then I was like "wtf paladins stealing my loot"
-_-
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I got a 70 shaman on the server named 'infernape' so if anynone wants to toss me an invite ill be on just about all day
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On February 16 2010 03:48 SnowFantasy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2010 03:04 Judicator wrote:
Blizzard is sometimes strict on it. They actually do check IP against known 3rd party farming sites.
However, they do give a warning the first time regardless of legal or illicit activity. So you should be fine.
And 2 hours for a raid is jokes. You will not be running 2 hours, you'll be running closer to 3 or 3.5 at least in blocks, 2 hours only works if everyone is on top of it (a wipe is about 15-30+ mins of nothingness).. Semi-serious (or semi-casual) guilds do about at least 9 hours per week in large blocks of time which depends on how many days of the week they plan on doing.
That's about the time commitment I would guess susie and midian are asking for if not more. How is a wipe 15-30minutes of nothingness? Walking back and rebuffing takes like 10min max. Especially if you're doing toc/togc. You're right outside the instance (takes 15 seconds to walk in) and all you have to do is click 3x on an npc to summon the boss again. Two hours per raid day seems like more than enough for what we will be doing (at least right away).
ToC and ToGC are exceptions to the typical raid dungeon, it's Onyxia-like in that sense. You'll spend at least 15 mins getting to the end of a typical Naxx wing (longer for some wings than others) then about 5 mins for rebuffs and misc. stuff like people returning from a quick break or what not. Based on experience, you'll be cutting it short or falling short with 2 hours, but maybe it works out for TL.
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also icc10 can be cleared in ~6hours with a good group and several breaks.
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On February 16 2010 06:06 Arikuna wrote:
also icc10 can be cleared in ~6hours with a good group and several breaks.
Can easily clear up to LK in under 3 hours even in 25man. Last week my guild got to Sindragosa in 4 but we wiped once on Rotface, once on Blood Princes, and ~5 times on Blood Queen.
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I'm really hoping for my card to work on Blizzard's site.
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Interesting...
I've tried WoW with rather lukewarm results. However, through the whole time I'm thinking "Man if this was with more an organized/mature/dependable ppl this would be 10x funner."
If I had the time or inclination to start again, would've loved this. Oh wellz, GL HF
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if you are horde and unhappy with your server, you should transfer to Ravenholdt
its a RP-PvP server where horde wins 70% of WGs due to limitted number of alliance players and horde also wins the mayority of the BGs in our battlegroup. you can find people to RP with and people to PvP with. there are also good PvE guilds.
ofc there are some assholes in the server, but they are a few, most of the people are nice people
the alliance side got lots of good pvp'ers, which makes world pvp fun.
the server is not overcrowded too, no queue to log-in.
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Been recently back to game due a lot of friends becoming active again, though I play on EU server.
Good luck with the guild.
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Yeah, if I weren't already quitting the game for SC2 beta I would play in the guild. I already cancelled my account though and if I resub I don't think I'll gather the discipline to unsub again :p
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I'm hoping for 2 hour raids. If it goes longer but people need to go, then they need to go. We are not hardcore, I'm hoping for hardcore progress in softcore time. If you guys all have raiding experience like you've told me, it shouldnt be a problem following directions and NOT STANDING IN THE FIRE. <3
I'll promote someone so that they can invite while Midian and I sleep >.< damn being in Korea...
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Can you throw chogoling an invite please lilsusie while you are here ^^
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You want a "recruit a friend" invite? or guild invite? I'm in game now.
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guild invite, or just whatever since I cant actually message anyone from a trial account which is proving seriously annoying!
can talk about the RAF ingame when im 'allowed' to talk
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o.O
I should start playing again to join you all
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I'm online now, if you guys need g invites
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I've gotta download/install the game
So it might be a little while
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message again please susie, same name >.<
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On February 16 2010 02:57 Chanted wrote:
Quick question, not neccassarely directly towards this thread, but I was just wondering, in some games you can have "duals" or play on eachothers accounts, so I was just wondering if Blizzard is strict on this, or is there any chance that I could play on someones account once in a while, maybe someone from us who has fixed playing times. I would be interested in paying for a month or 2, but will this get banned by blizzard or whoever is running wow these days? And also, is it possible to dl all the games up to the mest recent one on torrents or the wowsite?
Here is a post from liquidpoker.net:
Spitfiree Bulgaria. Today 07:50. Posts 2790
#41
by the way id be willing to sell my acc on Kazzak w lvl 80 priest equipped for all raids and a like lvl 15 hunter that has all the leveling equipment needed for like 50eu
You could ship Spitfiree a PM there and buy his acc there for 50 euro if you'd be up for that, wouldn't even have to level the character.
On February 16 2010 03:58 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Jamie you're never on you scrub :[
Sure I am, I'm on like 6+ hours a day, just stupid time zones ;p
On February 16 2010 04:45 stalemate wrote:Bah, on the US servers! Lame. I'm not fussed about playing on the US servers, but because of the time difference it would mean raiding would be unrealistic for me - starting past midnight and having to get up for work between 8:00-9:00am! Of course, I could do raiding friday/weekends, but then I imagine most people wouldn't want to do that then...
Actually, because Susie works during the week and because of the time zones, we'd probably be putting in as much raiding as possible on the weekends. It would depend a lot on other people's schedules, who can make when etcetc, but there is likely to be a decent bit of raiding on weekends anyway.
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I just wanted to throw this out there Myself and Emugi can invite now too.
My Toon's name is Eyesin
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Currently we have 4 level 80's, 2 people transfered over. Many people have been leveling new characters, and we have about 24 people + alts (40 Characters). We have characters in the teens, but characters ranging from 40 to 80 and all in between.
Come come! There are usually a good 5-7 people on everyday, leveling together.
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/ginfo says 29 accounts
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I should be on sometime tonight now that I've landed and semi unpacked in ontario.
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:D Playing games with bloodycobbler again is gonna be epic.
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goddamn this looks fun... I stopped playing this game a couple of months after burning crusade and I didn't look back since... but this is tempting.
I still got my lvl 70 alliance mage... I'd need to transfer/faction him though.
hmm what to do
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if u guys aren't full of dk's already then i might consider coming back to the game, quit 3 months ago
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a few people made DKs just because it's less leveling but i think it's only 2 so far and Jamie has an alt DK
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Lots of people quit months ago and are wondering if they should come back or not -_-. If I see that you are missing priest or shaman, I could probably come back and lend a hand.
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On February 17 2010 05:56 Rigodon666 wrote:
Lots of people quit months ago and are wondering if they should come back or not -_-. If I see that you are missing priest or shaman, I could probably come back and lend a hand.
I was one of them and I'm already playing roflmao
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How can my ping on this server be so bad, I am west coast and the server is central... 400ms is barely playable. Especially if I ever want to raid or do Arena =/
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Server's in LA, so you should def not be getting 400 ms XD
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On February 17 2010 07:37 Cyberspace1 wrote:
Server's in LA, so you should def not be getting 400 ms XD
Its weird, it fluctuates between 150 and 450. Tried it multiple days now, same thing.
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On February 17 2010 07:24 leetchaos wrote:
How can my ping on this server be so bad, I am west coast and the server is central... 400ms is barely playable. Especially if I ever want to raid or do Arena =/
Download and install latency fixer : http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13581-LeatrixLatencyFix.html
As far as Arena goes, arena/instance servers aren't the same server as the world server; so you might not lag at all in instances/bg's/arenas.
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That is strange, it's a MST server - but even in Korea my latency is like 500.
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i'm a bomb-ass death knight but outlands is so daunting
what sort of power leveling can i expect given my relative internet fame
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On February 17 2010 09:37 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
i'm a bomb-ass death knight but outlands is so daunting
what sort of power leveling can i expect given my relative internet fame
Outlands is daunting? I remember tearing through that place in 2 weeks O_O
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On February 17 2010 09:50 leetchaos wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2010 09:37 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
i'm a bomb-ass death knight but outlands is so daunting
what sort of power leveling can i expect given my relative internet fame Outlands is daunting? I remember tearing through that place in 2 weeks O_O
It use to be quicker as DKs, think me and a guildie raced through Outlands in 3 days (real time not game time), but sadly DKs aren't as broken as they were at launch.
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On February 17 2010 09:53 Judicator wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2010 09:50 leetchaos wrote:On February 17 2010 09:37 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
i'm a bomb-ass death knight but outlands is so daunting
what sort of power leveling can i expect given my relative internet fame Outlands is daunting? I remember tearing through that place in 2 weeks O_O It use to be quicker as DKs, think me and a guildie raced through Outlands in 3 days (real time not game time), but sadly DKs aren't as broken as they were at launch.
yeah but youll have wayy better gear as a DK coming into outlands than a regular level 60, when DKS came out I compared their gear to what was good for 60s who came straight from raiding in vannilla. Almost all of the plate gear was at the level of BWL and some even NAXX. So unless you're farming BWL before you go to outlands on a non-DK all you have are some questing blues/greens and maybe a few LFDungeon items(heirlooms too if you have an 80)
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On February 17 2010 10:18 Monokeros wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2010 09:53 Judicator wrote:On February 17 2010 09:50 leetchaos wrote:On February 17 2010 09:37 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
i'm a bomb-ass death knight but outlands is so daunting
what sort of power leveling can i expect given my relative internet fame Outlands is daunting? I remember tearing through that place in 2 weeks O_O It use to be quicker as DKs, think me and a guildie raced through Outlands in 3 days (real time not game time), but sadly DKs aren't as broken as they were at launch. yeah but youll have wayy better gear as a DK coming into outlands than a regular level 60, when DKS came out I compared their gear to what was good for 60s who came straight from raiding in vannilla. Almost all of the plate gear was at the level of BWL and some even NAXX. So unless you're farming BWL before you go to outlands on a non-DK all you have are some questing blues/greens and maybe a few LFDungeon items(heirlooms too if you have an 80)
It wasn't so much that as you had 0 downtime, a ranged pull, ability to solo all of the elite quests, etc.
It wasn't until 74 I couldn't solo a quest just from blowing my (now nerfed) CDs.
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May work on a Warlock for this if the beta doesn't come out soon.
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i have a 80 tauren druid on bloodscalp.. lols but i haven't played in a while
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On February 17 2010 04:39 Eti307 wrote:
goddamn this looks fun... I stopped playing this game a couple of months after burning crusade and I didn't look back since... but this is tempting.
I still got my lvl 70 alliance mage... I'd need to transfer/faction him though.
hmm what to do
DO IT!
On February 17 2010 05:56 Rigodon666 wrote:
Lots of people quit months ago and are wondering if they should come back or not -_-. If I see that you are missing priest or shaman, I could probably come back and lend a hand.
Currently our level 80 roster is:
DPS:
Mage (Me)
Rogue (lilsusie)
Hunter (NovaTheFeared)
Heals:
Shaman (SnowFantasy)
Tank:
DK (jyunyar)
Priest healer would be excellent, ele shaman would be welcome too. There is no discrimination at all at the moment though since we only have 5 level 80s at the moment, anything is welcomed. Hell, TLers will always be welcome to this guild regardless of whether we have 5 level 80s or 500 level 80s. Already there's a nice community feeling in the guild and usually 5+ people on during US hours so far and wanna keep that up.
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there is no cross region transfer right? would have to level from 1
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I'll be coming soon, a friend may come as well if that's alright :o
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I can also go Elemental. My ele and resto sets are about evenly geared. I prefer ele I think though too. :o
In the end I'll do whatever will benefit us most.
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I'm working on my way to 80 but no guarentees. Don't really wanna transfer cause I don't have the money to spare at the moment. ):
Plan to Boomkin it up but if you really need a tank I'll do it (My main on my other server is a druid and tanking ICC has become a chore ): )
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Finally on xP
time to join you all :D
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On February 17 2010 16:09 ToT)MidiaN( wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2010 04:39 Eti307 wrote:
goddamn this looks fun... I stopped playing this game a couple of months after burning crusade and I didn't look back since... but this is tempting.
I still got my lvl 70 alliance mage... I'd need to transfer/faction him though.
hmm what to do DO IT! Show nested quote +On February 17 2010 05:56 Rigodon666 wrote:
Lots of people quit months ago and are wondering if they should come back or not -_-. If I see that you are missing priest or shaman, I could probably come back and lend a hand.
Currently our level 80 roster is: DPS: Mage (Me) Rogue (lilsusie) Hunter (NovaTheFeared) Heals: Shaman (SnowFantasy) Tank: DK (jyunyar) Priest healer would be excellent, ele shaman would be welcome too. There is no discrimination at all at the moment though since we only have 5 level 80s at the moment, anything is welcomed. Hell, TLers will always be welcome to this guild regardless of whether we have 5 level 80s or 500 level 80s. Already there's a nice community feeling in the guild and usually 5+ people on during US hours so far and wanna keep that up.
yeah, I'm following the guild progression closely on the armory on a daily basis . I've been playing on/off since 2004 but I could never get a nice guild like I used to in 2005. It would be an honor to play with sir tot.midian and other SC players/fans.
I've waited for a moment like this for a long time to come back hardcore. I'm pretty sure a guild that talks about Jaedong in the GC and not about random wow crap is a lot more exciting. I will consult my computer if he is OK to come back playing, and if he does, you will be in for a squishy priest to help you out.
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I might join once cataclysm is out  . Gnome priest inc :D
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On February 17 2010 21:44 Rigodon666 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2010 16:09 ToT)MidiaN( wrote:On February 17 2010 04:39 Eti307 wrote:
goddamn this looks fun... I stopped playing this game a couple of months after burning crusade and I didn't look back since... but this is tempting.
I still got my lvl 70 alliance mage... I'd need to transfer/faction him though.
hmm what to do DO IT! On February 17 2010 05:56 Rigodon666 wrote:
Lots of people quit months ago and are wondering if they should come back or not -_-. If I see that you are missing priest or shaman, I could probably come back and lend a hand.
Currently our level 80 roster is: DPS: Mage (Me) Rogue (lilsusie) Hunter (NovaTheFeared) Heals: Shaman (SnowFantasy) Tank: DK (jyunyar) Priest healer would be excellent, ele shaman would be welcome too. There is no discrimination at all at the moment though since we only have 5 level 80s at the moment, anything is welcomed. Hell, TLers will always be welcome to this guild regardless of whether we have 5 level 80s or 500 level 80s. Already there's a nice community feeling in the guild and usually 5+ people on during US hours so far and wanna keep that up. yeah, I'm following the guild progression closely on the armory on a daily basis . I've been playing on/off since 2004 but I could never get a nice guild like I used to in 2005. It would be an honor to play with sir tot.midian and other SC players/fans. I've waited for a moment like this for a long time to come back hardcore. I'm pretty sure a guild that talks about Jaedong in the GC and not about random wow crap is a lot more exciting. I will consult my computer if he is OK to come back playing, and if he does, you will be in for a squishy priest to help you out.
Don't flatter jamie that kid is pompus enough without people like you feeding his ego 
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On February 17 2010 18:55 DrywMz wrote:
I'll be coming soon, a friend may come as well if that's alright :o
Absolutely
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On February 17 2010 21:44 Rigodon666 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2010 16:09 ToT)MidiaN( wrote:On February 17 2010 04:39 Eti307 wrote:
goddamn this looks fun... I stopped playing this game a couple of months after burning crusade and I didn't look back since... but this is tempting.
I still got my lvl 70 alliance mage... I'd need to transfer/faction him though.
hmm what to do DO IT! On February 17 2010 05:56 Rigodon666 wrote:
Lots of people quit months ago and are wondering if they should come back or not -_-. If I see that you are missing priest or shaman, I could probably come back and lend a hand.
Currently our level 80 roster is: DPS: Mage (Me) Rogue (lilsusie) Hunter (NovaTheFeared) Heals: Shaman (SnowFantasy) Tank: DK (jyunyar) Priest healer would be excellent, ele shaman would be welcome too. There is no discrimination at all at the moment though since we only have 5 level 80s at the moment, anything is welcomed. Hell, TLers will always be welcome to this guild regardless of whether we have 5 level 80s or 500 level 80s. Already there's a nice community feeling in the guild and usually 5+ people on during US hours so far and wanna keep that up. yeah, I'm following the guild progression closely on the armory on a daily basis . I've been playing on/off since 2004 but I could never get a nice guild like I used to in 2005. It would be an honor to play with sir tot.midian and other SC players/fans. I've waited for a moment like this for a long time to come back hardcore. I'm pretty sure a guild that talks about Jaedong in the GC and not about random wow crap is a lot more exciting. I will consult my computer if he is OK to come back playing, and if he does, you will be in for a squishy priest to help you out.
When is said consultation scheduled?!
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well i have an inactive account right now. I'm going to wait till cataclysm, if I'm playing at all. I'll let you know if I get on.
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Cataclysm I don't think is that close for those of you waiting. If you're waiting because of impending release of Cataclysm, honestly you'll be waiting another year at least (don't bring up Blizzard said this, everyone here should know about Blizzard Time aka whenever-we-feel-its-ready time).
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I give Cataclysm 6 months earliest.
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On February 17 2010 23:29 Dknight wrote:
We're horde man!!
Ugh. Then Goblin.
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Making a priest and bringing a friend asap.
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Ugh, merged my WoW Account with my B.Net Account, they are tempting me with 7 free game days =[.
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On February 18 2010 14:35 GTR wrote:
Ugh, merged my WoW Account with my B.Net Account, they are tempting me with 7 free game days =[.
I fell for that :[
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If only realm transfer and faction transfer didn't cost 55$ :/ It sounds like a lot of fun.
I have a 70 Alliance healadin... I'll see if there is some sort of a bundle for using all their paid services at once -.- It's like buying the game again lol
Otherwise I would definitely start from level 1 when cataclysm comes out depending on if I'm training my ass off with SC2/FFXIV :p
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We got 7 active 80s. Woot! Waiting on you guys
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yeah... i probably won't be on for awhile. sc2! ;]
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i might be around... i guess. I dunno
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On February 19 2010 13:57 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:
yeah... i probably won't be on for awhile. sc2! ;]
me too... sorry
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Hey, so me and my brother used to play on lightning's blade a while back. Between the 2 of us, we have 3 accounts with an 80 rogue, (my main) 80 lock (his main), 75 duid, 74 priest, and every other class between 66 and 70(with doubles on shammies and rogues).
one month we were bored so we had 2 low levels grouped with a 70 lock and we ran them through instances. you dot up a bunch of mobs, have the 70 (this was pre-wrath) leave the group and the instance and the low levels would get the full amount of XP as if they killed the mobs themselves. so it would be like 2 level 24s killing 20 mobs in SM by themselves in about 3 minutes. We had like 2 characters at a time get from 1-60 in less than a week. so that's why we have like 8 60s. unfortunately the patched it up
anyways, are you guys still going to pursuing this even with SC2 near? i would definitely want to get back into wow if you guys had a guild up and running. also, my brother were wondering what you guys were short of? we would definitely transfer our mains and then probably no more than 2 more toons after finishing leveling them to 80.
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On February 18 2010 14:35 GTR wrote:
Ugh, merged my WoW Account with my B.Net Account, they are tempting me with 7 free game days =[.
I just linked my accounts and remembered I had way too many -_-. I multiboxed during BC and it looks horrific in my Bnet account page!!!!
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hey guys just made an account. can someone add me? or help me or f/r ?
my name is Plutopusher
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On February 20 2010 10:57 AtlaS wrote:Hey, so me and my brother used to play on lightning's blade a while back. Between the 2 of us, we have 3 accounts with an 80 rogue, (my main) 80 lock (his main), 75 duid, 74 priest, and every other class between 66 and 70(with doubles on shammies and rogues). one month we were bored so we had 2 low levels grouped with a 70 lock and we ran them through instances. you dot up a bunch of mobs, have the 70 (this was pre-wrath) leave the group and the instance and the low levels would get the full amount of XP as if they killed the mobs themselves. so it would be like 2 level 24s killing 20 mobs in SM by themselves in about 3 minutes. We had like 2 characters at a time get from 1-60 in less than a week. so that's why we have like 8 60s. unfortunately the patched it up anyways, are you guys still going to pursuing this even with SC2 near? i would definitely want to get back into wow if you guys had a guild up and running. also, my brother were wondering what you guys were short of? we would definitely transfer our mains and then probably no more than 2 more toons after finishing leveling them to 80.
Hey, yeah, we definitely are.
http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Bloodscalp&gn=Team Liquid
Check out our armory, we are slowly but surely growing. We are going to put together a 10man ICC next week, to warm up our current level 80's... some of us are rusty from not raided in so long. But we have good friends outside of guild (who have already downed Lich King) who help us out and I'm really excited to see our community grow.
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If only you guys were Alliance, then I would have an excuse to revive my lvl 60 dwarf priest who used to be decked out when molten core/onxyia was the holy grail of end game raiding.
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it's kinda cool to see people logging in everyday and creating or with a transfered character.
ICC10 man this week.
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Sorry but i think im gonna wait til 3.3. There's a rumor going on that new characters you make regardless of class will start at 55 (well same rule as for being able to create a DK). I started a pally but when i heard that yeah....laziness kicked in ^_^"
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Man to bad you guys haven't checked out Malganis-US its like a 5:1 Ratio for horde and probably the best Server in all of US
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On February 22 2010 14:54 R4ptur3d wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 04:17 lilsusie wrote:On February 14 2010 04:14 meRz wrote:
Bah! US servers :< I would've gladly joined but I've got both of my 80 chars at an EU server. Yah, Midian and I both have level 70 chars on EU servers too, just waiting for the day they will open cross region transfers Heh, come start a level 1 and talk about SC, WoW and Poker in guild chat with us >.> Man to bad you guys haven't checked out Malganis-US its like a 5:1 Ratio for horde and probably the best Server in all of US
Waiting on queues to play is super cool.
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fuckin sucks man, i have to wait till tuesday now to work, ill be off even longer dudes..
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Once I get my warlock to 80 on tichondrius and hw load goes down again, I'll make a DK on your server.
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It's not possible to cross region transfer right?
I'm strongly tempted to start playing again even if it means buying a new account...
If I do play on us servers from eu, how will the latency be?
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I have a 60 priest on bloodscalp from when I used to raid with Yakuza... lol. Being in college again with job and wife though, can't go back to WoW again!
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On February 22 2010 15:04 wishbones wrote:fuckin sucks man, i have to wait till tuesday now to work, ill be off even longer dudes..
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On February 23 2010 03:35 Magicbox wrote:
It's not possible to cross region transfer right?
I'm strongly tempted to start playing again even if it means buying a new account...
If I do play on us servers from eu, how will the latency be?
Not that bad. Well.. maybe like 300ms? Jamie and I play with 500ms from Korea and it's doable. We can still raid and such.
If you're gonna buy a new account, you should do the refer a friend thing with someone so that you gain exp 3 times faster. We have plenty of low levelers who can level with you.
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god damn it, transfer fasterrrrr
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lol transfer transfer, saya still no luck? I havent worked yet, still waiting. see ya dudes, and pluto no going passed level 22!
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lol he was 25 earlier today
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Soon my awesome rogue will be with you guys! And I'll carry everyone to 2600 D:
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pluto made a warlock and i'm sure is now asking a bunch more questions....
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On February 23 2010 03:35 Magicbox wrote:
It's not possible to cross region transfer right?
I'm strongly tempted to start playing again even if it means buying a new account...
If I do play on us servers from eu, how will the latency be?
I'm willing to level with you using RAF, I think Korea is like 8 hours ahead of CET though so we'd have to figure out a schedule when we can both play. Let me know ^^
On February 23 2010 16:23 lilsusie wrote:pluto made a warlock and i'm sure is now asking a bunch more questions....
hero33 IS pluto.
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How do you play WoW lol
You have to pay right?
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On February 23 2010 21:37 ToT)MidiaN( wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2010 03:35 Magicbox wrote:
It's not possible to cross region transfer right?
I'm strongly tempted to start playing again even if it means buying a new account...
If I do play on us servers from eu, how will the latency be? I'm willing to level with you using RAF, I think Korea is like 8 hours ahead of CET though so we'd have to figure out a schedule when we can both play. Let me know ^^
What I'm gonna miss is not my char so much, but all the items I have on him (them). All my gold -and I have a decent amount - boa items, badges and all the items I have farmed. Plus I wont be able to buy fly mount (and tome for northrend). That's what's holding me back. Mostly that with no money for epic mounts and boa tome ^^
Does RAF work all the way up to lvl 80?
Even with all the downsides I think I will start a char :D I don't know where CET is measured from, but I'm +1 GMT. And I have the option of being online from 1700-2200 (5pm-10pm) (+1 GMT) during normal weekdays and ofcourse a lot more in weekends
Let me know if that is cool with you ^^
Edit: RAF is forbidden in Denmark (serious). Lets see if we can find a way to work around it when I make an account. I have no clue how RAF works. I guess I need to make an account first, right?
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On February 23 2010 21:59 konadora wrote:
How do you play WoW lol
You have to pay right?
You click on stuff and drum your fingers on the 1-2-3-4-5-6 buttons. Just like Starcraft.
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On February 23 2010 23:33 scintilliaSD wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2010 21:59 konadora wrote:
How do you play WoW lol
You have to pay right? You click on stuff and drum your fingers on the 1-2-3-4-5-6 buttons. Just like Starcraft.
You silly goose
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On February 23 2010 23:18 Magicbox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2010 21:37 ToT)MidiaN( wrote:On February 23 2010 03:35 Magicbox wrote:
It's not possible to cross region transfer right?
I'm strongly tempted to start playing again even if it means buying a new account...
If I do play on us servers from eu, how will the latency be? I'm willing to level with you using RAF, I think Korea is like 8 hours ahead of CET though so we'd have to figure out a schedule when we can both play. Let me know ^^ What I'm gonna miss is not my char so much, but all the items I have on him (them). All my gold -and I have a decent amount - boa items, badges and all the items I have farmed. Plus I wont be able to buy fly mount (and tome for northrend). That's what's holding me back. Mostly that with no money for epic mounts and boa tome ^^ Does RAF work all the way up to lvl 80? Even with all the downsides I think I will start a char :D I don't know where CET is measured from, but I'm +1 GMT. And I have the option of being online from 1700-2200 (5pm-10pm) (+1 GMT) during normal weekdays and ofcourse a lot more in weekends Let me know if that is cool with you ^^ Edit: RAF is forbidden in Denmark (serious). Lets see if we can find a way to work around it when I make an account. I have no clue how RAF works. I guess I need to make an account first, right?
RAF works until 23 or 25, because unless you upgrade the referred account the referred account can only get to 20. Once you're either 3 or 5 levels higher you can no longer get the benefit of the RAF.
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Wow.. they really made wow easy compared to around season 1-season 2
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On February 24 2010 00:51 kiykiy wrote:
Wow.. they really made wow easy compared to around season 1-season 2
You spelled vanilla season 1-season 2 for some reason, I'm confused.
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On February 24 2010 01:19 iSiN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2010 00:51 kiykiy wrote:
Wow.. they really made wow easy compared to around season 1-season 2 You spelled vanilla season 1-season 2 for some reason, I'm confused.
BARMAN SHANKER HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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On February 23 2010 09:44 lilsusie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2010 03:35 Magicbox wrote:
It's not possible to cross region transfer right?
I'm strongly tempted to start playing again even if it means buying a new account...
If I do play on us servers from eu, how will the latency be? Not that bad. Well.. maybe like 300ms? Jamie and I play with 500ms from Korea and it's doable. We can still raid and such. If you're gonna buy a new account, you should do the refer a friend thing with someone so that you gain exp 3 times faster. We have plenty of low levelers who can level with you.
Yeah, I play on an american server from Sweden and it's about 300ms, so it's not too bad.
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On February 24 2010 00:51 kiykiy wrote:
Wow.. they really made wow easy compared to around season 1-season 2
Dude you have no idea, they have changed it so much since wow first came out :|
You can get mounts at lvl 20! Level 20! I remember at 20 I was running stockades and didn't even have a mount and had to wait till level 40 for one... oh all that time wasted walking and running
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epic mounts at 40 and flying mounts at 60 don't forget that...-_____________-
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On February 24 2010 01:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2010 00:51 kiykiy wrote:
Wow.. they really made wow easy compared to around season 1-season 2 Dude you have no idea, they have changed it so much since wow first came out :| You can get mounts at lvl 20! Level 20! I remember at 20 I was running stockades and didn't even have a mount and had to wait till level 40 for one... oh all that time wasted walking and running
Raiding is a joke now too. Like i havent found anything comparable to the old raids much less AQ40 or Naxx 40. I love how noobs were spouting out at first "omg Ulduar is hard like Naxx 40". i face palmed so much during those days.
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On February 24 2010 02:12 xMiragex wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2010 01:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:On February 24 2010 00:51 kiykiy wrote:
Wow.. they really made wow easy compared to around season 1-season 2 Dude you have no idea, they have changed it so much since wow first came out :| You can get mounts at lvl 20! Level 20! I remember at 20 I was running stockades and didn't even have a mount and had to wait till level 40 for one... oh all that time wasted walking and running Raiding is a joke now too. Like i havent found anything comparable to the old raids much less AQ40 or Naxx 40. I love how noobs were spouting out at first "omg Ulduar is hard like Naxx 40". i face palmed so much during those days.
Remember when Epic mount were Just a legend -_-.... and everyone was farming gold from the glitched lanterns in STV....
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On February 24 2010 02:12 xMiragex wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2010 01:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:On February 24 2010 00:51 kiykiy wrote:
Wow.. they really made wow easy compared to around season 1-season 2 Dude you have no idea, they have changed it so much since wow first came out :| You can get mounts at lvl 20! Level 20! I remember at 20 I was running stockades and didn't even have a mount and had to wait till level 40 for one... oh all that time wasted walking and running Raiding is a joke now too. Like i havent found anything comparable to the old raids much less AQ40 or Naxx 40. I love how noobs were spouting out at first "omg Ulduar is hard like Naxx 40". i face palmed so much during those days.
This is a misconception a lot of old players away from the game have. Hard modes are legitimately hard, Ulduar hard modes were "hard", many of the top guilds struggled with Yogg-25 Hard Modes with many claiming the hardest wasn't possible (sounds like AQ40 C'thun huh?). The majority of the whiners were people who were 6/9 BT before 3.0 and got spoiled by the 3.0 patch.
Before oldies bring up the "world firsts took so much longer than nowadays" argument, yeah, because 90% of the bosses you faced you couldn't do without Resistance gear; it's like the hard mode bosses are any less technical than in vanilla or required looser execution. Farming gear didn't take skill.
Ask any guild that did Yogg25-0 during that patch, that shit wasn't a cakewalk or remotely easy. If you're breezing through normal mode, go do hard modes, they're pretty solid encounters if you're looking for a good challenge.
Normal modes will always be easier than anything that vanilla or BC had at its lowest levels. That being said, I do think that nothing will beat the 4H encounter in Naxx40.
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On February 23 2010 23:18 Magicbox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2010 21:37 ToT)MidiaN( wrote:On February 23 2010 03:35 Magicbox wrote:
It's not possible to cross region transfer right?
I'm strongly tempted to start playing again even if it means buying a new account...
If I do play on us servers from eu, how will the latency be? I'm willing to level with you using RAF, I think Korea is like 8 hours ahead of CET though so we'd have to figure out a schedule when we can both play. Let me know ^^ What I'm gonna miss is not my char so much, but all the items I have on him (them). All my gold -and I have a decent amount - boa items, badges and all the items I have farmed. Plus I wont be able to buy fly mount (and tome for northrend). That's what's holding me back. Mostly that with no money for epic mounts and boa tome ^^ Does RAF work all the way up to lvl 80? Even with all the downsides I think I will start a char :D I don't know where CET is measured from, but I'm +1 GMT. And I have the option of being online from 1700-2200 (5pm-10pm) (+1 GMT) during normal weekdays and ofcourse a lot more in weekends Let me know if that is cool with you ^^ Edit: RAF is forbidden in Denmark (serious). Lets see if we can find a way to work around it when I make an account. I have no clue how RAF works. I guess I need to make an account first, right?
You'll have to get a US account anyways - and it wouldn't be forbidden in Denmark ... if it's US, right? Not EU server? Hmm...
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On February 24 2010 08:13 hero33 wrote:
I encourage everyone to come to this server. its just really friendly. and helpful.
lolol qt
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On February 24 2010 06:44 Judicator wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2010 02:12 xMiragex wrote:On February 24 2010 01:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:On February 24 2010 00:51 kiykiy wrote:
Wow.. they really made wow easy compared to around season 1-season 2 Dude you have no idea, they have changed it so much since wow first came out :| You can get mounts at lvl 20! Level 20! I remember at 20 I was running stockades and didn't even have a mount and had to wait till level 40 for one... oh all that time wasted walking and running Raiding is a joke now too. Like i havent found anything comparable to the old raids much less AQ40 or Naxx 40. I love how noobs were spouting out at first "omg Ulduar is hard like Naxx 40". i face palmed so much during those days. This is a misconception a lot of old players away from the game have. Hard modes are legitimately hard, Ulduar hard modes were "hard", many of the top guilds struggled with Yogg-25 Hard Modes with many claiming the hardest wasn't possible (sounds like AQ40 C'thun huh?). The majority of the whiners were people who were 6/9 BT before 3.0 and got spoiled by the 3.0 patch. Before oldies bring up the "world firsts took so much longer than nowadays" argument, yeah, because 90% of the bosses you faced you couldn't do without Resistance gear; it's like the hard mode bosses are any less technical than in vanilla or required looser execution. Farming gear didn't take skill. Ask any guild that did Yogg25-0 during that patch, that shit wasn't a cakewalk or remotely easy. If you're breezing through normal mode, go do hard modes, they're pretty solid encounters if you're looking for a good challenge. Normal modes will always be easier than anything that vanilla or BC had at its lowest levels. That being said, I do think that nothing will beat the 4H encounter in Naxx40.
Im still playing and i still fail to see your point. C'thun HAD to get nerfed to be killable. Your resistance arguement is also BS specially considering AQ40 and Naxx (besides Saph). Huhuran you only need like 150 NR and that was buffed if i remember right. 4 Horsemen was the encounter that took the longest for any guild to kill since their first encounter, which was 6 days (unless im misinformed). You didnt even need resistance for it. I doubt the top guild took 6 dedicated raid nights or more to kill yogg 25 only.
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On February 24 2010 09:36 lilsusie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2010 23:18 Magicbox wrote:On February 23 2010 21:37 ToT)MidiaN( wrote:On February 23 2010 03:35 Magicbox wrote:
It's not possible to cross region transfer right?
I'm strongly tempted to start playing again even if it means buying a new account...
If I do play on us servers from eu, how will the latency be? I'm willing to level with you using RAF, I think Korea is like 8 hours ahead of CET though so we'd have to figure out a schedule when we can both play. Let me know ^^ What I'm gonna miss is not my char so much, but all the items I have on him (them). All my gold -and I have a decent amount - boa items, badges and all the items I have farmed. Plus I wont be able to buy fly mount (and tome for northrend). That's what's holding me back. Mostly that with no money for epic mounts and boa tome ^^ Does RAF work all the way up to lvl 80? Even with all the downsides I think I will start a char :D I don't know where CET is measured from, but I'm +1 GMT. And I have the option of being online from 1700-2200 (5pm-10pm) (+1 GMT) during normal weekdays and ofcourse a lot more in weekends Edit: RAF is forbidden in Denmark, because our government think it resembles a pyramid scheme... Let me know if that is cool with you ^^ Edit: RAF is forbidden in Denmark (serious). Lets see if we can find a way to work around it when I make an account. I have no clue how RAF works. I guess I need to make an account first, right? You'll have to get a US account anyways - and it wouldn't be forbidden in Denmark ... if it's US, right? Not EU server? Hmm...
I realise I need an account, but I'm a little confused as to which account. If I read it correctly on their faq I need a trial account, which will be recruited, and then I upgrade the trial account to a real account. Or can I go ahead and make a real account from the start?
about the RAF. It's forbidden by Danish law, which is why Blizzard doesn't offer it to any accounts residing in Denmark (doesn't matter if I use EU or US server). I guess I can say I have moved country when I make the new account^^ That's what I'm planning on doing at least
Edit: It's forbidden by the Danish government because they think it resembles a pyrami scheme...
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On February 24 2010 13:54 xMiragex wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2010 06:44 Judicator wrote:On February 24 2010 02:12 xMiragex wrote:On February 24 2010 01:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:On February 24 2010 00:51 kiykiy wrote:
Wow.. they really made wow easy compared to around season 1-season 2 Dude you have no idea, they have changed it so much since wow first came out :| You can get mounts at lvl 20! Level 20! I remember at 20 I was running stockades and didn't even have a mount and had to wait till level 40 for one... oh all that time wasted walking and running Raiding is a joke now too. Like i havent found anything comparable to the old raids much less AQ40 or Naxx 40. I love how noobs were spouting out at first "omg Ulduar is hard like Naxx 40". i face palmed so much during those days. This is a misconception a lot of old players away from the game have. Hard modes are legitimately hard, Ulduar hard modes were "hard", many of the top guilds struggled with Yogg-25 Hard Modes with many claiming the hardest wasn't possible (sounds like AQ40 C'thun huh?). The majority of the whiners were people who were 6/9 BT before 3.0 and got spoiled by the 3.0 patch. Before oldies bring up the "world firsts took so much longer than nowadays" argument, yeah, because 90% of the bosses you faced you couldn't do without Resistance gear; it's like the hard mode bosses are any less technical than in vanilla or required looser execution. Farming gear didn't take skill. Ask any guild that did Yogg25-0 during that patch, that shit wasn't a cakewalk or remotely easy. If you're breezing through normal mode, go do hard modes, they're pretty solid encounters if you're looking for a good challenge. Normal modes will always be easier than anything that vanilla or BC had at its lowest levels. That being said, I do think that nothing will beat the 4H encounter in Naxx40. Im still playing and i still fail to see your point. C'thun HAD to get nerfed to be killable. Your resistance arguement is also BS specially considering AQ40 and Naxx (besides Saph). Huhuran you only need like 150 NR and that was buffed if i remember right. 4 Horsemen was the encounter that took the longest for any guild to kill since their first encounter, which was 6 days (unless im misinformed). You didnt even need resistance for it. I doubt the top guild took 6 dedicated raid nights or more to kill yogg 25 only.
There were many fewer man guilds pushing content at 60 than there were at 70 and now 80. Content isn't easier, but RAIDING is. Wipe recovery, class balancing, consumables, instance design, etc have all improved drastically. Also, one of the biggest factors is how much better players are now. Not so much skill, but the wealth of knowledge and math behind all of them game is so well known that players are just better now because of it. People in raiding guilds in vanilla didn't know how to maximize their class like 90% of raiders do easily now.
Hard mode encounters are just as hard and in many cases harder than many 60 raid bosses. Yogg+0 was extremely hard pre-nerf. From a mechanic and execution stand point it is more difficult than 4 Horseman in my opinion. 4 Horseman simply required the right raid composition and gear. Hope your guild has 8 prot warriors w/ t3, because if you don't then you're not going to down it. That's not difficult, that just means it's stupid.
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On February 24 2010 14:50 I_Love_Bacon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2010 13:54 xMiragex wrote:On February 24 2010 06:44 Judicator wrote:On February 24 2010 02:12 xMiragex wrote:On February 24 2010 01:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:On February 24 2010 00:51 kiykiy wrote:
Wow.. they really made wow easy compared to around season 1-season 2 Dude you have no idea, they have changed it so much since wow first came out :| You can get mounts at lvl 20! Level 20! I remember at 20 I was running stockades and didn't even have a mount and had to wait till level 40 for one... oh all that time wasted walking and running Raiding is a joke now too. Like i havent found anything comparable to the old raids much less AQ40 or Naxx 40. I love how noobs were spouting out at first "omg Ulduar is hard like Naxx 40". i face palmed so much during those days. This is a misconception a lot of old players away from the game have. Hard modes are legitimately hard, Ulduar hard modes were "hard", many of the top guilds struggled with Yogg-25 Hard Modes with many claiming the hardest wasn't possible (sounds like AQ40 C'thun huh?). The majority of the whiners were people who were 6/9 BT before 3.0 and got spoiled by the 3.0 patch. Before oldies bring up the "world firsts took so much longer than nowadays" argument, yeah, because 90% of the bosses you faced you couldn't do without Resistance gear; it's like the hard mode bosses are any less technical than in vanilla or required looser execution. Farming gear didn't take skill. Ask any guild that did Yogg25-0 during that patch, that shit wasn't a cakewalk or remotely easy. If you're breezing through normal mode, go do hard modes, they're pretty solid encounters if you're looking for a good challenge. Normal modes will always be easier than anything that vanilla or BC had at its lowest levels. That being said, I do think that nothing will beat the 4H encounter in Naxx40. Im still playing and i still fail to see your point. C'thun HAD to get nerfed to be killable. Your resistance arguement is also BS specially considering AQ40 and Naxx (besides Saph). Huhuran you only need like 150 NR and that was buffed if i remember right. 4 Horsemen was the encounter that took the longest for any guild to kill since their first encounter, which was 6 days (unless im misinformed). You didnt even need resistance for it. I doubt the top guild took 6 dedicated raid nights or more to kill yogg 25 only. There were many fewer man guilds pushing content at 60 than there were at 70 and now 80. Content isn't easier, but RAIDING is. Wipe recovery, class balancing, consumables, instance design, etc have all improved drastically. Also, one of the biggest factors is how much better players are now. Not so much skill, but the wealth of knowledge and math behind all of them game is so well known that players are just better now because of it. People in raiding guilds in vanilla didn't know how to maximize their class like 90% of raiders do easily now. Hard mode encounters are just as hard and in many cases harder than many 60 raid bosses. Yogg+0 was extremely hard pre-nerf. From a mechanic and execution stand point it is more difficult than 4 Horseman in my opinion. 4 Horseman simply required the right raid composition and gear. Hope your guild has 8 prot warriors w/ t3, because if you don't then you're not going to down it. That's not difficult, that just means it's stupid.
Consumables are NOT easier to get for sure. Giving both shamans and paladins to both factions was retarded and made things easier while taking out an uniqueness from each faction while raiding and pvping (well pvp is not the point). I agree that wipe recovery is much faster but also you dont take into account the things blizz to make the game easier. Yes more players are well informed on how to maximize their class but things like changing shield block from a 6 sec CD to a 40 sec CD basically just removed something from warriors that made them EASIER to play. Id bring in dual spec into this but it IS a nice thing, which makes raiding easier, i personally wouldve restricted the other spec for PvP only since that was supposedly one of the big reasons it was implemented. As for the 4 horsemen thing, then why do people say, "omg that fight is such a hard gear check" and now you come out that the fight was retarded.
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Blizzard keeps denying me time and again.
Apparently I can't use the online upgrade version because I'm not living in the states. It refuses to accept my creditcard with error 202 (wrong zip code - I don't live in the us).
That means I have to get a physical copy of the game from an us retailer. But there will still be a problem, when I need to pay my subscription, because I still don't live in the states.
Is there a way to work around this problem?
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On February 25 2010 02:52 Magicbox wrote:
Blizzard keeps denying me time and again.
Apparently I can't use the online upgrade version because I'm not living in the states. It refuses to accept my creditcard with error 202 (wrong zip code - I don't live in the us).
That means I have to get a physical copy of the game from an us retailer. But there will still be a problem, when I need to pay my subscription, because I still don't live in the states.
Is there a way to work around this problem?
game cards
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Oh yeah, I had totally forgotten about that, since you can't pay with paypal on the european servers.
I guess I'm gonna find a retailer that can sell me a us version of the game then ^^
Thanks for the suggestion!
Edit: game cards wont work since they are region specific.
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It worked for fine for me using a Swedish CC, just enter your danish zip code?
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I was gonna quit too, but then i got a couple game cards from a few friends that i dont know what to do with =.=; What time do you guys usually play?
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On February 25 2010 04:18 Hittegods wrote:
It worked for fine for me using a Swedish CC, just enter your danish zip code?
That's what I did :p
In a minor rage fit I entered the last 4 digits of my cardnumber in the zip code instead, and voila! it suddenly worked! Oo
I'm downloading full speed now :D Expect to see me online tomorrow!
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On February 25 2010 04:01 Magicbox wrote:
Oh yeah, I had totally forgotten about that, since you can't pay with paypal on the european servers.
I guess I'm gonna find a retailer that can sell me a us version of the game then ^^
Thanks for the suggestion!
Edit: game cards wont work since they are region specific.
If you're getting the US copy of the game buy US gamecards from the same retailer. They should have both...
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On February 24 2010 13:54 xMiragex wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2010 06:44 Judicator wrote:On February 24 2010 02:12 xMiragex wrote:On February 24 2010 01:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:On February 24 2010 00:51 kiykiy wrote:
Wow.. they really made wow easy compared to around season 1-season 2 Dude you have no idea, they have changed it so much since wow first came out :| You can get mounts at lvl 20! Level 20! I remember at 20 I was running stockades and didn't even have a mount and had to wait till level 40 for one... oh all that time wasted walking and running Raiding is a joke now too. Like i havent found anything comparable to the old raids much less AQ40 or Naxx 40. I love how noobs were spouting out at first "omg Ulduar is hard like Naxx 40". i face palmed so much during those days. This is a misconception a lot of old players away from the game have. Hard modes are legitimately hard, Ulduar hard modes were "hard", many of the top guilds struggled with Yogg-25 Hard Modes with many claiming the hardest wasn't possible (sounds like AQ40 C'thun huh?). The majority of the whiners were people who were 6/9 BT before 3.0 and got spoiled by the 3.0 patch. Before oldies bring up the "world firsts took so much longer than nowadays" argument, yeah, because 90% of the bosses you faced you couldn't do without Resistance gear; it's like the hard mode bosses are any less technical than in vanilla or required looser execution. Farming gear didn't take skill. Ask any guild that did Yogg25-0 during that patch, that shit wasn't a cakewalk or remotely easy. If you're breezing through normal mode, go do hard modes, they're pretty solid encounters if you're looking for a good challenge. Normal modes will always be easier than anything that vanilla or BC had at its lowest levels. That being said, I do think that nothing will beat the 4H encounter in Naxx40. Im still playing and i still fail to see your point. C'thun HAD to get nerfed to be killable. Your resistance arguement is also BS specially considering AQ40 and Naxx (besides Saph). Huhuran you only need like 150 NR and that was buffed if i remember right. 4 Horsemen was the encounter that took the longest for any guild to kill since their first encounter, which was 6 days (unless im misinformed). You didnt even need resistance for it. I doubt the top guild took 6 dedicated raid nights or more to kill yogg 25 only.
You're misinformed about Yogg-25-0, it was 1 month at least before an Asian guild Stars took the world first on 0 Keepers Yogg. And it was nerfed multiple times in the months leading up to it, alot like C'thun huh? Same with Alganon but shorter time and not nerfed iirc.
Resistance gear is BS what? You're overlooking the fact that the top guilds had full sets on everything already going into AQ40 and Naxx. You never obviously had run new recruits through MC to get their (hopefully only their) T2 pants so they can move through BWL, and 150 NR wasn't a 1 week thing and certainly not a ONLY thing for 15 people. You bring up AQ40 and Naxx but you fail to realize how tiered and strict the progression was, not to mention how fucking useless (compared to now) Warlocks, Shadow Priests, Hunters were. Then stack on the overpowered nature of DKs (no theat worries, no death worries, no aoe/single target worries) at launch of course players are going to say raiding is easier (as intended by Blizzard at launch).
I might have only mentioned Resistance gear specifically but there were TONS of shit that just limited how fast you can beat a dungeon that were outside of raiding (attunement, keys, etc). Now it's just roll in and roll it up if you are dedicated.
My point is that the hard mode fights in WotLK isn't lolraiding like people like to say it is. Your raid and you will be challenged, it's not a bad system, shitty guilds won't succeed in most of the hard modes and you'll feel rewarded like you did in vanilla rather than the early parts of BC. So oldies out there shouldn't feel like the game got so dumbed down on the high-end part.
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Don't drink and drive
Don't smoke
Don't do drugs
Don't commit crimes
Those rules are reasonable, but for the love of god guys (and susie) the most important one is:
Don't play WoW, it ruins your life
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On February 25 2010 02:22 xMiragex wrote:Consumables are NOT easier to get for sure. Giving both shamans and paladins to both factions was retarded and made things easier while taking out an uniqueness from each faction while raiding and pvping (well pvp is not the point). I agree that wipe recovery is much faster but also you dont take into account the things blizz to make the game easier. Yes more players are well informed on how to maximize their class but things like changing shield block from a 6 sec CD to a 40 sec CD basically just removed something from warriors that made them EASIER to play. Id bring in dual spec into this but it IS a nice thing, which makes raiding easier, i personally wouldve restricted the other spec for PvP only since that was supposedly one of the big reasons it was implemented. As for the 4 horsemen thing, then why do people say, "omg that fight is such a hard gear check" and now you come out that the fight was retarded.
Hahaha, consumables aren't easier? Is that a joke? Do you realize how long farming for max consumables at 60 took? I'm not even talking about farming onyxia for heads either. Potions not on CD, oils, fewer food buffs (individual not feasts). Don't throw a blanket statement at me. I'm well aware of mechanic changes and things of that nature, but don't just say "you dont take into account the things blizz to make the game easier", because unless you give an example, it's meaningless.
My assumption is that you don't play a warrior tank. The change to shield block didn't change the number of keystrokes used to tank or the difficulty involved with it. Every attack macro'd with shield block and heroic strike so you'd spam them anyhow. Classes have become more in depth. They took a step back in BC and many classes were delegated to similar rolls as Vanilla where it was a a short dps rotation. WotLK has made every class with more usable talents and abilities in combat. It might make certain mechanics seem easier, but in reality it's just people using the new depth of their characters. As far as 4 horseman, my point is that gearchecks are retarded. Hard enrage timers such as Brutallus I'm fine with. 4 Horseman was something else. Requiring 8 warrior tanks with t3 isn't fun or difficult, it's merely annoying and ultimately a waste of time.
edit: I wont clog up the thread anymore on this topic. Everybody hurry up and hit 80 :O
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Wait you had no problem with Brutallus insta-gibbing your tank because of bad luck?
4H was fun to follow namely because it required great tank switching and you actually felt like you accomplished something when you executed the very technical fight, kill order-tank switching, etc. The requirements were a bit steep, but it was in line with what they could/were doing at the time. It was a very technical gear check, so people didn't complain about it.
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ok so i've finally managed to get a decent connection here, i should start grinding in one or two days.
So, is there anyone left interested in inviting me so we can lvl together?
I'm going to play drood heal or feral depending on my mood and since i'm quite of a gank... erm pvp player, a nasty minded rogue would be more than welcome. But any class would do the trick
pm me if interested
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Just throwing my 2 cents on the raiding:
Raiding in wrath isn't nearly what it was in BC and BC wasn't anything like what it was at level 60. People forget that there was no threat meter (well there was but it sucked) to be doing 400 dps was EXTREMELY top end, and for the most part, people were ignornant about the game. That's why boss fights were hard, not because we had LOL 1SHOT Algalon or LOLRAIDDAMAGE twins.
Heck, even in BC things were so different, back then a complex rotation was like, 3 buttons, with maybe potion cooldowns, and well...that was about it. Things were much more focused on moving out of stuff (heck half of the 80's today couldn't do a BC fight back then due to all the stuff that had to be watched for) and they worked on different mechanics. I personally never got to do EXTREME hard content in BC (IE: M'uru and KJ, although I did a few pulls on M'uru).
Today, things are so much more spam and dps oriented. Heck, right now, i could go online, input my stats, and a calculator could spit out an entire fight with the rotation and the expected dps. You didn't really have stuff like that, even in BC. However, I won't deny ulduar hardmodes weren't difficult, although many of them were either luck or execution based, minus hodir, but even his checks weren't that hard.
Personally I don't like the way WotLK is moving, I preferred the BC style of raiding, but some people do like it I guess. And not having to raid 5x5 is nice. Anyways, i'll roll something and drop by, because i can't afford 55$ right now for a server/faction change .
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My question for you is did any of you get to yogg on the first week of ulduar...my guild spent 17 hours to down him and the next week it was night and day the nerfs they put on him. We 1 shot it...While this isn't the same as Cthun Yogg was HARD the first week. Also 1 Light before the nerfs was pretty difficult ie the hardest hard mode we tried. I quit before we ever worked on 0 light. Anyways Hardmodes are Difficult while it may not be Naxx 60/cthun hard (mostly due to bad itemization on gear tbh) it's no cakewalk. TBH it's too hard to compare the 2 times because the game is so different now.
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On February 25 2010 09:12 iSiN wrote:
My question for you is did any of you get to yogg on the first week of ulduar...my guild spent 17 hours to down him and the next week it was night and day the nerfs they put on him. We 1 shot it...While this isn't the same as Cthun Yogg was HARD the first week. Also 1 Light before the nerfs was pretty difficult ie the hardest hard mode we tried. I quit before we ever worked on 0 light. Anyways Hardmodes are Difficult while it may not be Naxx 60/cthun hard (mostly due to bad itemization on gear tbh) it's no cakewalk. TBH it's too hard to compare the 2 times because the game is so different now.
This is basically my point, i know hard modes arent a cake walk but we're never gonna get anything that difficult (well instances as a whole).
On February 25 2010 05:52 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
My assumption is that you don't play a warrior tank. The change to shield block didn't change the number of keystrokes used to tank or the difficulty involved with it. Every attack macro'd with shield block and heroic strike so you'd spam them anyhow.
I have played a warrior and its easier with the change to shield block now. Maybe you're a heavy macro user you didnt notice anything but there was a difference. Even now im against Heroic Strike macroing cause of rage starvation for a sec or 2 and ruining my tps. I dont tank in WotLK anymore but ive tanked enough where i can tell and ive experienced it myself.
I know how farming for consumables was at 60, i did it myself. It was fine tbh, yes its less farming for consumables cause of feasts but it was not an absurd task.
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planning on joining you guys in a few weeks actually
friend and i will probably be rolling priest + mage and leveling with RAF
is there any class/role that the guild particularly is short on?
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i hate wow. wasting so much time playing it.
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On February 25 2010 09:59 xMiragex wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2010 09:12 iSiN wrote:
My question for you is did any of you get to yogg on the first week of ulduar...my guild spent 17 hours to down him and the next week it was night and day the nerfs they put on him. We 1 shot it...While this isn't the same as Cthun Yogg was HARD the first week. Also 1 Light before the nerfs was pretty difficult ie the hardest hard mode we tried. I quit before we ever worked on 0 light. Anyways Hardmodes are Difficult while it may not be Naxx 60/cthun hard (mostly due to bad itemization on gear tbh) it's no cakewalk. TBH it's too hard to compare the 2 times because the game is so different now. This is basically my point, i know hard modes arent a cake walk but we're never gonna get anything that difficult (well instances as a whole). Show nested quote +On February 25 2010 05:52 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
My assumption is that you don't play a warrior tank. The change to shield block didn't change the number of keystrokes used to tank or the difficulty involved with it. Every attack macro'd with shield block and heroic strike so you'd spam them anyhow. I have played a warrior and its easier with the change to shield block now. Maybe you're a heavy macro user you didnt notice anything but there was a difference. Even now im against Heroic Strike macroing cause of rage starvation for a sec or 2 and ruining my tps. I dont tank in WotLK anymore but ive tanked enough where i can tell and ive experienced it myself. I know how farming for consumables was at 60, i did it myself. It was fine tbh, yes its less farming for consumables cause of feasts but it was not an absurd task.
My point was that a lot of the reasons raiding was Harder was because the gear was less streamlined Spirit on Paladin gear anyone?
If the gear was less optimum and yogg wouldn't have gotten nerfed then I'm sure it would have taken just as long as it took to kill Cthun. Also it was so hard to have 40 completely competent raiders back thenIt's really Apples and Oranges.
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On February 25 2010 08:53 Kaialynn wrote:
Personally I don't like the way WotLK is moving, I preferred the BC style of raiding, but some people do like it I guess.
I bet you havent played warlock back then. Raiding with a lock at vanilla/bc was the most boring thing ever, it was like [shadowbolt * 5-8 (depending on the regen given by the raid) - life tap ]. Unless you had the best stuff ever, then you could swap SB for inci. It vas just great. Now some people will say "yeah but fights were more nervous etc". maybe, probably not. Raid encounters always use the same actions:
*for everyone
-dodging static aoe (magmadar)
-or boss/character centered aoe
-dodging slow blasts (voidreaver; mimiron)
-disabling people who are mc
* DPS
- fast switch ( whatever adds who need to get nuked as fast as possible)
- long switch (tougher adds)
- sometime several kind of class are assigned to specific targets (lady deathwisper)
- offensive dispell
-defensive dispell (if the healers got their hand full)
- counterspell
*HEAL
- raid
- tank
- group
- defensive dispell
- offensive dispell (if nothing else to do)
- counter spell
Since i'm not a tank, i wont list what they have to do, but it should not involve more than 5-6 possible tasks.
There might be several missing, but the point is: nothing new under the sun, every mmo rely on these actions, they were already here during vanilla and the won't disapear in the next 5 years.
In icecrown citadel fights are dynamics, music is great, the design too, no class got only rotten fights (ie: spamming one skill during evey fight). What more to ask?
Finally i'll add that i like people who rand because wow is easy; top tier guilds beat the shit out of arthas hm in 45min bla bla bla, but are these guys all in millenium and co?
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On February 25 2010 11:05 Groslouser wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2010 08:53 Kaialynn wrote:
Personally I don't like the way WotLK is moving, I preferred the BC style of raiding, but some people do like it I guess. I bet you havent played warlock back then. Raiding with a lock at vanilla/bc was the most boring thing ever, it was like [shadowbolt * 5-8 (depending on the regen given by the raid) - life tap ]. Unless you had the best stuff ever, then you could swap SB for inci. It vas just great. Now some people will say "yeah but fights were more nervous etc". maybe, probably not. Raid encounters always use the same actions: *for everyone -dodging static aoe (magmadar) -or boss/character centered aoe -dodging slow blasts (voidreaver; mimiron) -disabling people who are mc * DPS - fast switch ( whatever adds who need to get nuked as fast as possible) - long switch (tougher adds) - sometime several kind of class are assigned to specific targets (lady deathwisper) - offensive dispell -defensive dispell (if the healers got their hand full) - counterspell *HEAL - raid - tank - group - defensive dispell - offensive dispell (if nothing else to do) - counter spell Since i'm not a tank, i wont list what they have to do, but it should not involve more than 5-6 possible tasks. There might be several missing, but the point is: nothing new under the sun, every mmo rely on these actions, they were already here during vanilla and the won't disapear in the next 5 years. In icecrown citadel fights are dynamics, music is great, the design too, no class got only rotten fights (ie: spamming one skill during evey fight). What more to ask? Finally i'll add that i like people who rand because wow is easy; top tier guilds beat the shit out of arthas hm in 45min bla bla bla, but are these guys all in millenium and co?
For tanking it's pretty much
-keep aggro (aoe aggro can be hard depending on fight and what class you are)
-taunt off main tank(or off tank) after certain stacks of debuff
-kite
-some times they switch it up and it's don't keep aggro on certain things while keeping it on others
-pop cool downs when healers are busy
-stay stacked on other tank(s)
-don't turn Ony sideways
that's about it
EDIT: Are there a plenty of ppl just leveling? I wouldn't mind going back to WoW to level a character before Cataclysm hits, got 2 80s, but I don't feel like raiding, just levelling with ppl ^^
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On February 24 2010 14:50 I_Love_Bacon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2010 13:54 xMiragex wrote:On February 24 2010 06:44 Judicator wrote:On February 24 2010 02:12 xMiragex wrote:On February 24 2010 01:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:On February 24 2010 00:51 kiykiy wrote:
Wow.. they really made wow easy compared to around season 1-season 2 Dude you have no idea, they have changed it so much since wow first came out :| You can get mounts at lvl 20! Level 20! I remember at 20 I was running stockades and didn't even have a mount and had to wait till level 40 for one... oh all that time wasted walking and running Raiding is a joke now too. Like i havent found anything comparable to the old raids much less AQ40 or Naxx 40. I love how noobs were spouting out at first "omg Ulduar is hard like Naxx 40". i face palmed so much during those days. This is a misconception a lot of old players away from the game have. Hard modes are legitimately hard, Ulduar hard modes were "hard", many of the top guilds struggled with Yogg-25 Hard Modes with many claiming the hardest wasn't possible (sounds like AQ40 C'thun huh?). The majority of the whiners were people who were 6/9 BT before 3.0 and got spoiled by the 3.0 patch. Before oldies bring up the "world firsts took so much longer than nowadays" argument, yeah, because 90% of the bosses you faced you couldn't do without Resistance gear; it's like the hard mode bosses are any less technical than in vanilla or required looser execution. Farming gear didn't take skill. Ask any guild that did Yogg25-0 during that patch, that shit wasn't a cakewalk or remotely easy. If you're breezing through normal mode, go do hard modes, they're pretty solid encounters if you're looking for a good challenge. Normal modes will always be easier than anything that vanilla or BC had at its lowest levels. That being said, I do think that nothing will beat the 4H encounter in Naxx40. Im still playing and i still fail to see your point. C'thun HAD to get nerfed to be killable. Your resistance arguement is also BS specially considering AQ40 and Naxx (besides Saph). Huhuran you only need like 150 NR and that was buffed if i remember right. 4 Horsemen was the encounter that took the longest for any guild to kill since their first encounter, which was 6 days (unless im misinformed). You didnt even need resistance for it. I doubt the top guild took 6 dedicated raid nights or more to kill yogg 25 only. There were many fewer man guilds pushing content at 60 than there were at 70 and now 80. Content isn't easier, but RAIDING is. Wipe recovery, class balancing, consumables, instance design, etc have all improved drastically. Less time consuming, but not necessarily a matter of difficulty. The min/maxing is more prevalent because you don't need to sacrifice for professions/specs/farming like you used to. Regardless of the difficulty of encounters, the ceiling on extremism needed was lowered.
Hard mode encounters are just as hard and in many cases harder than many 60 raid bosses. Yogg+0 was extremely hard pre-nerf. From a mechanic and execution stand point it is more difficult than 4 Horseman in my opinion. 4 Horseman simply required the right raid composition and gear. Hope your guild has 8 prot warriors w/ t3, because if you don't then you're not going to down it. That's not difficult, that just means it's stupid. What about Gothik? The difficulty of 4H was overrated (lol) because of the stupid tank requirements (especially so for H) but it wasn't a difficult fight, per se. Once tanks learned how to execute switches, they should've been able to do it 10/10 times from then on out, and the DPS was totally secondary.
Caster side Gothik, on the other hand, was the most technical fight I ever experienced, including most of BC and WotLK to Ulduar. I'm not sure how it would've been handled without RDX, at the gear point it's given at.
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Phantom theres quite a few people leveling
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Phantom, most are in their 20's into 30's now. Plenty of people to level with and dungeon with, everyone is welcome
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hmmm, cool i'mma in then! i'll look for you guys
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leveling up a druid named funke, please invite
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I might just take the 7 day free and join, see what's up =) Have to download the entire client though
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I remember I wished for a guild like this back when I used to play WoW! if you do play WoW, make sure you move server now and join up!
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hmmm, now that i've started, i'm tempted to just xfer my shammy over...XD...
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sigh jamie! Start playing on the EU servers instead and we can have a blast!
Why US btw? did you move to the states now? :o
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so, I'm getting paid on Saturday/Sunday, can anyone use the invite a friend thing? I heard you level up faster or something , if anyone can do it pm me so I can send the info (probably only email though but I'm not sure) I will be buying/upgrading the account on the weekend
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On February 25 2010 19:33 Hasse wrote:
sigh jamie! Start playing on the EU servers instead and we can have a blast!
Why US btw? did you move to the states now? :o
Nah I'm in Korea. I do have a 75 warrior on a EU server but haven't played it in a long time, played US servers cause Susie was pretty much. Nobody I knew was even playing on EU server when wotlk came out anyway
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uh oh looks like free trail people cant join guilds, ill keep lvling and see if i want to get back into this game after 4 years.
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I quit awhile back after playing the game like a second job for 4 years, my guild is way to hardcore for my lifestyle and I've been looking for something laid back might have to do this and get back into the game a bit.
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Also, for those arguing about how hard fights were and what not, you haven't done a hard fight until you did M'uru BEFORE they nerfed his aoe causing push back.
That was a hard fight.
4H at 60 was hella tough too, but I had nightmares about M'uru.
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guess who's coming back on today!!!! But I want your guys opinion. I Have just enough to buy:
$34.99($40.24) - 2 Months Subscription
$34.99($40.24) - BC Key
$82.00($80.48) - Total of these two items
or
$44.99($51.74) - The BC/WoW Battlechest. I've previously bought this but sold the BC key before using it due to thinking I would never play the game again.
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Also, is it possible if i was to add a 2nd battle chest to my current Battle.net accuont, How would it be possible to do that?? wouldnt it fuck up my battle.net account. Anyone with info plz respond thanks.
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yes, you can put multiple wow stuff on one account man, theyre different keys
edit: also just get bc and sub time, because you already got an account unless you wanna do something with the vanilla key i dunno
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well the original wow key when purchasing a battle chest, is your free month, and the bc key u use and start to play on bc for a free month more or less.
But i have only 86 dollars and want to have some cash so i guess ima rebuy the battlechest since i can just re add it, the only reason i wasnt going to buy the chest again, was if it wasnt going to let me do that.
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you cant put that free month on an existing account though. so if you put that key on your bnet account, you will log in with your bnet id/password, then there will be a drop down box with two options associated with each key.
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does anyone play arena over there? I was thinking I might go, maybe I'll go on my alt 80 war and keep my main here.
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I play arena. :p i'm a rogue though
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I'll be playing arenas for sure...once I get geared up and level 80 LOL!
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Heh, who ever wants to get carried in arena let me know, I'm a 2500/2600 rogue/druid.
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awesome, since TL community is one of the best. i'll check back when cat xpac is released. I have a lv. 80 druid, and lv. 70 war that I wouldn't mind playing with new content.
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Lol got to him first guys, better luck next time >:D
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Apparently blizzard has found strong proof that I'm trying to sell my account. Lol. Who'd want to buy my char? Lol. Stupid.
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Hey, I just made a character on the server Toejamd if anybody can invite me to the guild
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I'v transfered my 80 priest Rigodown to the server. Ill continue to work on my druid also. Ill send you a PM for invite tonight when I log in.
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On February 26 2010 08:48 KiLLme1st wrote:
Also, for those arguing about how hard fights were and what not, you haven't done a hard fight until you did M'uru BEFORE they nerfed his aoe causing push back.
That was a hard fight.
4H at 60 was hella tough too, but I had nightmares about M'uru.
m'uru was a joke compared to c'thun
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On February 28 2010 12:39 Dknight wrote:
Apparently blizzard has found strong proof that I'm trying to sell my account. Lol. Who'd want to buy my char? Lol. Stupid.
i hope you didn't respond that email or click those links, it's a phishing scam
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On March 02 2010 06:04 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2010 08:48 KiLLme1st wrote:
Also, for those arguing about how hard fights were and what not, you haven't done a hard fight until you did M'uru BEFORE they nerfed his aoe causing push back.
That was a hard fight.
4H at 60 was hella tough too, but I had nightmares about M'uru. m'uru was a joke compared to c'thun
Uhhhh I played with people who did both prenerf and they all agreed that Muruu was harder mainly because Cthun wasn't actually killable so you can't really judge the difficulty of the fight on impossibilities...
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If anyone needs a time card, drop me a pm i quit WoW a few months ago and i have a couple just sitting here.. It's so tempting to join the TL group but it just takes too much of my time >.>
**Edit : Maybe we can work out a price that is cheaper than stores
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On March 02 2010 10:28 iSiN wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2010 06:04 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:On February 26 2010 08:48 KiLLme1st wrote:
Also, for those arguing about how hard fights were and what not, you haven't done a hard fight until you did M'uru BEFORE they nerfed his aoe causing push back.
That was a hard fight.
4H at 60 was hella tough too, but I had nightmares about M'uru. m'uru was a joke compared to c'thun Uhhhh I played with people who did both prenerf and they all agreed that Muruu was harder mainly because Cthun wasn't actually killable so you can't really judge the difficulty of the fight on impossibilities...
i did both pre(only attempts in c'thun pre, of course) and post respective nerfs. post-nerf c'thun was harder than pre-nerf m'uru
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if u play on gorefiend, PM me.
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On March 02 2010 16:15 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2010 10:28 iSiN wrote:On March 02 2010 06:04 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:On February 26 2010 08:48 KiLLme1st wrote:
Also, for those arguing about how hard fights were and what not, you haven't done a hard fight until you did M'uru BEFORE they nerfed his aoe causing push back.
That was a hard fight.
4H at 60 was hella tough too, but I had nightmares about M'uru. m'uru was a joke compared to c'thun Uhhhh I played with people who did both prenerf and they all agreed that Muruu was harder mainly because Cthun wasn't actually killable so you can't really judge the difficulty of the fight on impossibilities... i did both pre(only attempts in c'thun pre, of course) and post respective nerfs. post-nerf c'thun was harder than pre-nerf m'uru
your guild must have been shitty in vanilla. Also I REALLY doubt you got to muruu before the spell pushback nerf
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i'm not here to impress you, so trying to troll isn't going to do much
burning crusade was easier than vanilla, no fight in BT or SWP was as hard as c'thun, most not even as hard as KT, though people had less time to work on KT than they did c'thun, so it looked a bit harder (relatively speaking)
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KT wasn't even the hardest fight in Naxx 60...It was cake even compared to Sapphiron and Sapph was cake next to 4hm. I think you're the one in this thread trolling.
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On March 03 2010 00:26 iSiN wrote:
KT wasn't even the hardest fight in Naxx 60...It was cake even compared to Sapphiron and Sapph was cake next to 4hm. I think you're the one in this thread trolling.
This. Though if they were having trouble with C'thun they probably didn't get to try those three bosses! Hoho! /highfive iSiN for Naxx40 goodtimes.
4 Horses were RIDICULOUS.
I used to raid with Catalyst over on Feathermoon back in the day, and we beat our heads against 4HM for a long time.
If I didn't just transfer my character (I have only one 80, played him in beta and remade him for release) to play with all my coworkers, I'd join the TL guild. If I get fired, I'll come over and join!
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what, trying to have 8 tanks geared for 4HM isn't like totally awesome? 4HM and C'thun were pains (although C'thun wasnt that hard if you got to him pre nerf and had phase 1 down no problem for when he was fixed, phase 2 came relatively easy if you could do phase 1 very easily).
Tbh, in AQ40, Ouro was tougher than C'thun.
I never did Muru though, but my guild i played with killed him pre and post nerf multiple times.
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Bah, if only you guys were on US-Malfurion. Awesome place for casual HM raiding ^_^ (if you are in my guild). I'm at 4/12 ICC25 HM while raiding about 3 hours total over the last 2 weeks, with no intention at all to be noncasual.
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I apologize for being MIA these last few days, I'm actually WORKING at work. LOL.
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lol >< i should be leveling butttt ;(
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i actually wanted to come back to do more leveling and with this new dungeon finder, it's a lot more fun to level now since I get bored of quests pretty fast. I was actually gonna wait until Cata came out to level a new char but i'm really glad i came back to level a hunter! ^^
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On March 04 2010 09:41 lilsusie wrote:
I apologize for being MIA these last few days, I'm actually WORKING at work. LOL.
It's no big deal, I can find someone else to run through Black Morass.... + Show Spoiler +
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I was going to buy WoW the past weekend but.... lol earthquake
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I'm 73 now with my rogue :D almost 74...
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On March 04 2010 11:59 DrywMz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2010 09:41 lilsusie wrote:
I apologize for being MIA these last few days, I'm actually WORKING at work. LOL. It's no big deal, I can find someone else to run through Black Morass.... + Show Spoiler +
sup
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To anyone on the verge of buying wow and weighing up the options, DON'T DO IT.
Or just do it, then look back and think, damn... I should have listened to Zurles.
Though if you're already hooked go ahead with midian of course, That is all.
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On March 04 2010 12:37 Zurles wrote:
To anyone on the verge of buying wow and weighing up the options, DON'T DO IT.
why? i suppose there are a bunch of metagame issues at the moment but that will be improved with cata around the corner. and i've played it before (to some extent >.>) and it seems like with a good guild it would be really fun.
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He was probably referring more to the "ruin your life" aspect of WoW. Of course, if you're on TL Starcraft has probably already done that to you.
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On March 03 2010 00:26 iSiN wrote:
KT wasn't even the hardest fight in Naxx 60...It was cake even compared to Sapphiron and Sapph was cake next to 4hm. I think you're the one in this thread trolling. You have to define what difficulty is. Some mechanics are harder, but there's more tools and more safety nets available. Things like TPS don't exist anymore, and there was no burndown equivalent for Heroism/BL. I'm not sure healers even have mana problems anymore, they weren't when I returned in WotLK. There's also PTR to work out the details of most bosses before they go live. Also remember that executing a fight is different than learning and coordinating it before anyone else. From what I've heard, the raw mechanics of Yogg were harder than anything else, but that doesn't include a lot of different variables.
We knew the mechanics of 4H early on and they were easy to pull off if you weren't an idiot, the problem is getting 8 tanks and 35+ non-idiots. Same goes for Sapphiron, except you had resistance and mana pools as a limit instead of tanks. We had no idea what was happening on KT and Gothik until we actually went through it slowly, and even though idiots could die and you'd still make it, the critical components had to play exceptionally well. 4HM might have been harder for guilds, but on the individual level it was a relatively simple fight.
C'thun was ridiculous to learn, but once you did it was only hard because of the retard check. As far as retard checks go, pre-nerf Gruul is there too if you didn't carry over T3 gear or get the bugged instadeath version.
Hell, even Patchwerk was really difficult before we knew what to do. No one actually believed it was a straight up DPS fight until the first people started getting him to berserk, and things like fire mages were few and far between.
I honestly don't know anyone who was on the cutting edge in Naxx/BC that really still is, so unless you can find me the people that didn't get the luxury of Bosskillers/videos in their kills, I don't think you can make a fair comparison.
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I supose I can support anyone who plays a priest with advice and tips if anyone might want some. Send me a PM, and atleast I can contribute to the guild even if I'm not in it ^^ TL is one big happy family ^^
Tho I havent played WoW for 10 months (priests havent changed that much)
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Jibba, that's a hard comparison to make to be honest.
Check the world/region firsts, those guilds do not get the luxury of vids, although they do get the luxury of PTR (up to a certain point), but after the shitfest that was Sunwell/Mt. Hyjal, I rather they test it out on PTR.
4HM is/was hard namely because of the tank switching, no fight up until that required you to switch up that much. Naxx40 in general released a lot of new mechanics at the time that players didn't expect Blizzard would.
And your retard check argument isn't as valid as you think. Think about it, if you were to replace a geared member of your core raiders in Vanilla/early BC, there was a very small pool of talented players (if any at all) that were attuned, then there was a very small pool (if any at all) that were geared. Stacked both or either of those on the resistance gear (important for some classes), then you were for better or worse stuck with them. Not to mention the shitfest that was getting pre-raid gear. So basically then you were stuck with retards, but now it's much easier to both gear and find players who could be replaced. Yes there are still retards, but the pool is much larger and much more accessible.
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On March 06 2010 00:38 Judicator wrote:
Check the world/region firsts, those guilds do not get the luxury of vids, although they do get the luxury of PTR (up to a certain point), but after the shitfest that was Sunwell/Mt. Hyjal, I rather they test it out on PTR. Well, that's what I'm saying. When people here say "I've done Naxx 40 and Yogg0," my immediate guess is they did Naxx40 and Yogg0 largely with the help of other guilds. When I think about whether an encounter is hard, I think about it in terms of the bleeding edge guild. For me, the game was about solving puzzles and developing a strategy.
What I'm saying is that I don't have any point of comparison between bleeding edge content back then and bleeding edge content today, because most people I knew quit, went casual or went for PvP. I will say that the people I know in DV had lighter schedules than they used to (which is why it's unfair to measure difficulty in days to complete, plus the shorter reset times.) And the healers I've talked to said there's really no difference between a great healer and an average one, outside of PvP.
The PTR is a mixed bag. On one hand, it makes progression a lot faster (we already understood most of Hyjal before it came out) which I think is a bad thing, but you've also got crap Blizzard just didn't think about properly because their devs didn't get it.
4HM is/was hard namely because of the tank switching, no fight up until that required you to switch up that much. Naxx40 in general released a lot of new mechanics at the time that players didn't expect Blizzard would. It wasn't actually that hard for a tank to do. Once they learned it and the timing, they could repeat their job 10/10 times easily. For most guilds, 4HM was hard because they didn't have enough tanks and their tanks sucked. There was that, and actually learning how the rotations should work. Needless to say, the fight was significantly, significantly easier for Alliance than Horde.
And your retard check argument isn't as valid as you think. Think about it, if you were to replace a geared member of your core raiders in Vanilla/early BC, there was a very small pool of talented players (if any at all) that were attuned, then there was a very small pool (if any at all) that were geared. Stacked both or either of those on the resistance gear (important for some classes), then you were for better or worse stuck with them. Not to mention the shitfest that was getting pre-raid gear. So basically then you were stuck with retards, but now it's much easier to both gear and find players who could be replaced. Yes there are still retards, but the pool is much larger and much more accessible. I think that's kind of what I'm saying. Even though we had 50~ people with great gear, there were still enough idiots to cause problems. 4HM was an encounter that required no one to play exceptionally. No one. It required everyone to play decently. KT, you could make it through with a greater number of idiots, but the important people had harder jobs than the jobs present in 4HM. Same with Gothik, only to a greater degree. Less retard checks is definitely a good thing.
I don't doubt that Yogg0 is the most technical fight in the game, but I don't know if that constitutes overall difficulty, especially when you have stuff like StratFu guiding you; we were literally programming RDX during raids, between attempts. What makes me skeptical about people comparing Yogg0 to C'thun to 4HM is that those are the only examples they're giving, which makes me think they weren't in a great guild. It sounds elitist and it is, but anyone in a great guild should remember that for a guild, learning Gothik was probably #1/2 for Naxx40 difficulty, pre-nerf Vashj was damn near impossible, Maexxna took a while, pre-nerf Gruul/Magtheridon and even Hydross were hard. Rag, Chromag, etc. There were more artificial gates back then (Vael, Luci) but can you imagine what Razorgore was like the first time people stepped into it? I definitely don't consider Sapph on that list and I probably wouldn't put 4HM up there either, as a truly difficult fight.
IMO, KT/Gothik were technically more difficult fights than 4HM/Sapph, but those two were gateway fights that were rough because of artificial restrictions like gear, class comp and shamans. In terms of satisfaction, I've heard that C'thun, Naxx and M'uru are at the top of the list for best encounters, with really only Mimi making it from WotLK, but again, I haven't talked to anyone that was one of the first to do Naxx and one of the first to do Ulduar. There's no doubt it's a better overall game now and I do believe people that say Yogg0 was harder than C'thun for them, I just don't know if they did them at their hardest state.
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<- playing on EU servers as well. D:
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you know you play too much wow when:
Question marks no longer represent a question in a sentence, but rather the start of a new and exciting quest1!
& vice versa for ! g'day!
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On March 06 2010 00:38 Judicator wrote:
Check the world/region firsts, those guilds do not get the luxury of vids, although they do get the luxury of PTR (up to a certain point), but after the shitfest that was Sunwell/Mt. Hyjal, I rather they test it out on PTR.
We WERE the region first... lol.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7318291844381976331#
years and years ago.. hahaha. Good times....
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On March 06 2010 08:52 Torenhire wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2010 00:38 Judicator wrote:
Check the world/region firsts, those guilds do not get the luxury of vids, although they do get the luxury of PTR (up to a certain point), but after the shitfest that was Sunwell/Mt. Hyjal, I rather they test it out on PTR.
We WERE the region first... lol. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7318291844381976331#years and years ago.. hahaha. Good times....
WTB more heal rank 2 spam please.
wait, i see shadow priest(s), is that post 2.0?
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I don't know why so many people keep bringing up the 8 geared tanks for 4hm strat. I knew plenty of competent guilds successfully completed 4hm with 5 tanks you just always have someone rotating and have smart healz.
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They definitely didn't need to be that geared, but yeah, I think we had to do it with 6 once. Plus, druids were an option, at least temporarily.
On March 06 2010 09:02 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2010 08:52 Torenhire wrote:On March 06 2010 00:38 Judicator wrote:
Check the world/region firsts, those guilds do not get the luxury of vids, although they do get the luxury of PTR (up to a certain point), but after the shitfest that was Sunwell/Mt. Hyjal, I rather they test it out on PTR.
We WERE the region first... lol. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7318291844381976331#years and years ago.. hahaha. Good times.... WTB more heal rank 2 spam please. wait, i see shadow priest(s), is that post 2.0?
And the felguard...
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On March 06 2010 03:01 Jibba wrote:IMO, KT/Gothik were technically more difficult fights than 4HM/Sapph, but those two were gateway fights that were rough because of artificial restrictions like gear, class comp and shamans. In terms of satisfaction, I've heard that C'thun, Naxx and M'uru are at the top of the list for best encounters, with really only Mimi making it from WotLK, but again, I haven't talked to anyone that was one of the first to do Naxx and one of the first to do Ulduar. There's no doubt it's a better overall game now and I do believe people that say Yogg0 was harder than C'thun for them, I just don't know if they did them at their hardest state.
I used to raid with a bunch of people who met that criteria, and i've tanked Sunwell, Lol80Naxx/Maly/Sarth, and Ulduar (including Yogg+0) when they were the 'progression' content. Originally a lot of them believed that the newer content wasn't as hard as it used to be, through M'uru changed a few peoples' minds, and by the end of Ulduar, most of them agreed that the newer content was much tighter tuned than C'thun/Naxx. As I had it put to me once, "I used to hate 25-mans, but really, they're just 40-mans except without the 15 idiots we used to carry". Back in Naxx, you could literally kill a boss with a group of players dead in the corner if you had to - there's no way you could 22-man the 'hard-mode' bosses of today for your first kill.
A big part of the change is that there is a larger percentage of the playerbase who simply "gets" how to play their class. I hear tales from all of the people I know who raided in early vanilla about their retarded players - the ones who were relegated to out of combat rez duty, or died 5 times on one C'thun kill, or simply couldn't figure out how to not dispel themselves on a fight like Grobbulus. These players would never cut it in today's raiding environment.
Yogg is the most technical fight i've ever done.. but he's not the hardest. He was all about perfect organization, with any sort of variance among the 12 or so "important" players causing a wipe. Once we had our strategy down and people knew how they had to go about things though, we killed him fairly comfortably, nerves aside. Tanking that fight was ridiculous, and i'd really love to see fights where DPS are challenged in that way.
The hardest fight i've ever done without a doubt was M'uru v1.1, the version without spell pushback. That fight, if anyone died and they weren't up within 5 seconds, you wiped unless you were 80 seconds into Phase 2 already. The coordination required was decently behind what Yogg's was, but still quite heavy, and the benchmarks for every single player in the raid were incredibly high.
By all accounts i've heard, C'thun was not particularly difficult once you knew the fight - the same people would always die to the same things, but you'd kill him anyways once he was on farm. Until M'uru got nerfed, he required near-perfect play out of your entire raid every week. I really think WoW has made great strides forward in raw encounter difficulty, but I don't think they could legitimately design another fight at his level because of the sheer optimization required to beat him.
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On March 06 2010 08:52 Torenhire wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2010 00:38 Judicator wrote:
Check the world/region firsts, those guilds do not get the luxury of vids, although they do get the luxury of PTR (up to a certain point), but after the shitfest that was Sunwell/Mt. Hyjal, I rather they test it out on PTR.
We WERE the region first... lol. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7318291844381976331#years and years ago.. hahaha. Good times....
When I say region, I don't mean server. Near the end of Naxx for the first wave of guilds clearing it, guilds were already talking and asking as well as posting detailed strats. And that video as others have pointed out is pretty sketch...
Yeah Jibba, I guess we both agree, it is hard to make comparisons, the game is very different for better or worse.
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So im finally settled here (Québec) and i'm looking for a us version of wow.
The stores i've found only sell eu version of the game (looks like most people here play on the french servers) and battle.net dont want to accept my visa card. So basically i'm screwed.
So is there a Québequois who could tell me where to find that in the city please?
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On March 10 2010 07:07 Groslouser wrote:
So im finally settled here (Québec) and i'm looking for a us version of wow.
The stores i've found only sell eu version of the game (looks like most people here play on the french servers) and battle.net dont want to accept my visa card. So basically i'm screwed.
So is there a Québequois who could tell me where to find that in the city please?
There's this little store I've heard of. They sell their stuff on the internet.
Click me
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I can't speak for WotLK, but prior to that I always thought Kael'thas of The Eye was one of the tougher fights, so I think it's weird nobody mentioned it. I remember having a hell of a time with that one... I think they patched it and made it easier though?
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can you believe that shit, i just got hacked cancel my name in the guild someone has access to my account. ill pm when its fixed.
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Ooh...this sounds fun (:
My main server is Whisperwind US...and I only have two 80s, neither of which I could really transfer :\
One of these days I'll poke my head in and look around on Bloodscalp, though (:
How many TL people have you guys managed to round up and such?
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We have about 65 accounts but I'd say around 15-20 active members
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I haven't been on much, unfortunately. The toon I had planned to xfer over has been getting a lot of play recently to fill in the spot of a druid who recently quit. And now that I just got King Slayer on it, I have a feeling it'll be getting even more use for the time being. If things settle down I hope to send him or another toon on over still.
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Woooo i'm getting my account back soon. Let a friend have it after i quit and it's been hard to get in touch with him but I'm talking to him right now. yet another distraction for school.
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On March 06 2010 14:01 Niton wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2010 03:01 Jibba wrote:IMO, KT/Gothik were technically more difficult fights than 4HM/Sapph, but those two were gateway fights that were rough because of artificial restrictions like gear, class comp and shamans. In terms of satisfaction, I've heard that C'thun, Naxx and M'uru are at the top of the list for best encounters, with really only Mimi making it from WotLK, but again, I haven't talked to anyone that was one of the first to do Naxx and one of the first to do Ulduar. There's no doubt it's a better overall game now and I do believe people that say Yogg0 was harder than C'thun for them, I just don't know if they did them at their hardest state. I used to raid with a bunch of people who met that criteria, and i've tanked Sunwell, Lol80Naxx/Maly/Sarth, and Ulduar (including Yogg+0) when they were the 'progression' content. Originally a lot of them believed that the newer content wasn't as hard as it used to be, through M'uru changed a few peoples' minds, and by the end of Ulduar, most of them agreed that the newer content was much tighter tuned than C'thun/Naxx. As I had it put to me once, "I used to hate 25-mans, but really, they're just 40-mans except without the 15 idiots we used to carry". Back in Naxx, you could literally kill a boss with a group of players dead in the corner if you had to - there's no way you could 22-man the 'hard-mode' bosses of today for your first kill. A big part of the change is that there is a larger percentage of the playerbase who simply "gets" how to play their class. I hear tales from all of the people I know who raided in early vanilla about their retarded players - the ones who were relegated to out of combat rez duty, or died 5 times on one C'thun kill, or simply couldn't figure out how to not dispel themselves on a fight like Grobbulus. These players would never cut it in today's raiding environment. Yogg is the most technical fight i've ever done.. but he's not the hardest. He was all about perfect organization, with any sort of variance among the 12 or so "important" players causing a wipe. Once we had our strategy down and people knew how they had to go about things though, we killed him fairly comfortably, nerves aside. Tanking that fight was ridiculous, and i'd really love to see fights where DPS are challenged in that way. The hardest fight i've ever done without a doubt was M'uru v1.1, the version without spell pushback. That fight, if anyone died and they weren't up within 5 seconds, you wiped unless you were 80 seconds into Phase 2 already. The coordination required was decently behind what Yogg's was, but still quite heavy, and the benchmarks for every single player in the raid were incredibly high. By all accounts i've heard, C'thun was not particularly difficult once you knew the fight - the same people would always die to the same things, but you'd kill him anyways once he was on farm. Until M'uru got nerfed, he required near-perfect play out of your entire raid every week. I really think WoW has made great strides forward in raw encounter difficulty, but I don't think they could legitimately design another fight at his level because of the sheer optimization required to beat him.
No fight is particularly difficult once you know the fight. Mu'ru 1.1 was retarded in the fact that no amount of gear you gained from killing him actually helped you kill him the week later. The dps requirement was so tight that on several occasions you could wipe because one or two of your rogues were having bad luck critting. Mu'ru was a boss you could have a perfect performance from every raid member and STILL wipe to, even if you've killed him 4-5 weeks in a row. He was fun no doubt, but his tuning was whacked out.
Gothik was one of the most complex and difficult fights in this game, it ranks in the same area of C'thun...BUT it was rather easy once you knew the fight. Yogg I found to be like every other fight in this game. You pick your 15 *good* people and they do the shit that's actually important while everyone else spams something else.
Healing took actual thought in TBC/Vanilla. The increase in mana regen and buffs and the subsequent removal of downranking absolutely killed healing for me. I played a Priest from beta until I quit April 2009. That Priest has seen World 2nds on several occasions in Naxx 60 (Lolatheb being my favorite -.- You don't know consumable farming until you've done that one) and I really really enjoyed healing back then. I had to watch my mana, dance the 5sr, and use the appropriate heal for the situation or risk being very wasteful.
Blizzard started to piss me off when they messed with CoH. It was perfectly fine being contained in the group and every priest and their mother knew that making it jump party lines would over power the hell out of it. So what does blizzard do...make it jump party lines. Then they nerfed priests and then buffed them somewhat and then nerfed them again and BLAH BLAH BLAH.
It was a damn mess. Then they removed downranking and that was the beginning of the end of my WoW experience. Fights that used to take thought now were just relegated to 1 button spam fests. I didn't roll a DPS class for that EXACT reason and then they went and made healing completely and totally mindless.
Now most raid encounters don't even require any intuitive movement by the majority of the raid. Everyone can sit still for a grand majority of them (besides the occasional lol ice shards on the head) and just spam away.
That's all WoW is now. They make the enrage timers tight or they make you do the fight inefficiently to make it "hard" and then attempt to reward you for it...then someone who turns in some heroic badges gets just about the same thing because numbers are so damn high now that that 40 healing difference or whatever is negligible now.
Mana doesn't matter anymore and WoW healing is more like played FF10...where any hard boss just immediately one shots your tank on multiple lol occasions...and that's taken as hard.
I do not regret quitting. A lot of old school razor edge tier raiders don't regret quitting either. I miss the days where you actually had to brain storm outside of the game on how to beat a boss because the immediate answer just isn't there. WoW bosses just aren't intuitive anymore...that and testing is the whole instance nowadays.
I didn't mind the drop from 40-25 much but man did they destroy the metagame to go more casual friendly.
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I wish we could someday have a wow thread that DIDNT degenerate into this same discussion.
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stop talking about this vanilla/tbc/wotlk raiding is better shit god damn it's making my head hurt it's over shut up already it derailed this thread so hard -______-
On the other hand everyone should play with us ^.^
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On March 10 2010 07:07 Groslouser wrote:
So im finally settled here (Québec) and i'm looking for a us version of wow.
The stores i've found only sell eu version of the game (looks like most people here play on the french servers) and battle.net dont want to accept my visa card. So basically i'm screwed.
So is there a Québequois who could tell me where to find that in the city please?
I live in Quebec and english copies are everywhere, have you tried EBgames?
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On March 13 2010 06:08 iSiN wrote:
stop talking about this vanilla/tbc/wotlk raiding is better shit god damn it's making my head hurt it's over shut up already it derailed this thread so hard -______-
On the other hand everyone should play with us ^.^
This. The game is different for sure, but whether for the better or worse is up to the players on an individual basis, so play it...at your own risk.
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3 of us are going to try getting started during spring break:
Emrys, Tammuz, and CowGoPoo
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Damn, I missed WOW. I started play from the open beta untill the late stage of WOW Vanilla. Was one of the top shaman(Rank 1 healing in MC and BWL and Onyxia all the time) in my server. My guild back then was a monster guild, always in the first three guild to beat bosses in WOW Vanilla, but you guys would have guessed, to archive that, most of us have to give up a lot of time.
To a point I cant stand the time that I need to consume anymore. I quited. I've been both regret and happy about that decision.
I love the Warcraft lore so much that i read every damn Warcraft novels out there.
Man, I miss this game. Wish you guys alot of luck though, try to have fun together ^^
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On March 13 2010 04:58 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2010 14:01 Niton wrote:On March 06 2010 03:01 Jibba wrote:IMO, KT/Gothik were technically more difficult fights than 4HM/Sapph, but those two were gateway fights that were rough because of artificial restrictions like gear, class comp and shamans. In terms of satisfaction, I've heard that C'thun, Naxx and M'uru are at the top of the list for best encounters, with really only Mimi making it from WotLK, but again, I haven't talked to anyone that was one of the first to do Naxx and one of the first to do Ulduar. There's no doubt it's a better overall game now and I do believe people that say Yogg0 was harder than C'thun for them, I just don't know if they did them at their hardest state. I used to raid with a bunch of people who met that criteria, and i've tanked Sunwell, Lol80Naxx/Maly/Sarth, and Ulduar (including Yogg+0) when they were the 'progression' content. Originally a lot of them believed that the newer content wasn't as hard as it used to be, through M'uru changed a few peoples' minds, and by the end of Ulduar, most of them agreed that the newer content was much tighter tuned than C'thun/Naxx. As I had it put to me once, "I used to hate 25-mans, but really, they're just 40-mans except without the 15 idiots we used to carry". Back in Naxx, you could literally kill a boss with a group of players dead in the corner if you had to - there's no way you could 22-man the 'hard-mode' bosses of today for your first kill. A big part of the change is that there is a larger percentage of the playerbase who simply "gets" how to play their class. I hear tales from all of the people I know who raided in early vanilla about their retarded players - the ones who were relegated to out of combat rez duty, or died 5 times on one C'thun kill, or simply couldn't figure out how to not dispel themselves on a fight like Grobbulus. These players would never cut it in today's raiding environment. Yogg is the most technical fight i've ever done.. but he's not the hardest. He was all about perfect organization, with any sort of variance among the 12 or so "important" players causing a wipe. Once we had our strategy down and people knew how they had to go about things though, we killed him fairly comfortably, nerves aside. Tanking that fight was ridiculous, and i'd really love to see fights where DPS are challenged in that way. The hardest fight i've ever done without a doubt was M'uru v1.1, the version without spell pushback. That fight, if anyone died and they weren't up within 5 seconds, you wiped unless you were 80 seconds into Phase 2 already. The coordination required was decently behind what Yogg's was, but still quite heavy, and the benchmarks for every single player in the raid were incredibly high. By all accounts i've heard, C'thun was not particularly difficult once you knew the fight - the same people would always die to the same things, but you'd kill him anyways once he was on farm. Until M'uru got nerfed, he required near-perfect play out of your entire raid every week. I really think WoW has made great strides forward in raw encounter difficulty, but I don't think they could legitimately design another fight at his level because of the sheer optimization required to beat him. No fight is particularly difficult once you know the fight. Mu'ru 1.1 was retarded in the fact that no amount of gear you gained from killing him actually helped you kill him the week later. The dps requirement was so tight that on several occasions you could wipe because one or two of your rogues were having bad luck critting. Mu'ru was a boss you could have a perfect performance from every raid member and STILL wipe to, even if you've killed him 4-5 weeks in a row. He was fun no doubt, but his tuning was whacked out. Gothik was one of the most complex and difficult fights in this game, it ranks in the same area of C'thun...BUT it was rather easy once you knew the fight. Yogg I found to be like every other fight in this game. You pick your 15 *good* people and they do the shit that's actually important while everyone else spams something else. Healing took actual thought in TBC/Vanilla. The increase in mana regen and buffs and the subsequent removal of downranking absolutely killed healing for me. I played a Priest from beta until I quit April 2009. That Priest has seen World 2nds on several occasions in Naxx 60 (Lolatheb being my favorite -.- You don't know consumable farming until you've done that one) and I really really enjoyed healing back then. I had to watch my mana, dance the 5sr, and use the appropriate heal for the situation or risk being very wasteful. Blizzard started to piss me off when they messed with CoH. It was perfectly fine being contained in the group and every priest and their mother knew that making it jump party lines would over power the hell out of it. So what does blizzard do...make it jump party lines. Then they nerfed priests and then buffed them somewhat and then nerfed them again and BLAH BLAH BLAH. It was a damn mess. Then they removed downranking and that was the beginning of the end of my WoW experience. Fights that used to take thought now were just relegated to 1 button spam fests. I didn't roll a DPS class for that EXACT reason and then they went and made healing completely and totally mindless. Now most raid encounters don't even require any intuitive movement by the majority of the raid. Everyone can sit still for a grand majority of them (besides the occasional lol ice shards on the head) and just spam away. That's all WoW is now. They make the enrage timers tight or they make you do the fight inefficiently to make it "hard" and then attempt to reward you for it...then someone who turns in some heroic badges gets just about the same thing because numbers are so damn high now that that 40 healing difference or whatever is negligible now. Mana doesn't matter anymore and WoW healing is more like played FF10...where any hard boss just immediately one shots your tank on multiple lol occasions...and that's taken as hard. I do not regret quitting. A lot of old school razor edge tier raiders don't regret quitting either. I miss the days where you actually had to brain storm outside of the game on how to beat a boss because the immediate answer just isn't there. WoW bosses just aren't intuitive anymore...that and testing is the whole instance nowadays. I didn't mind the drop from 40-25 much but man did they destroy the metagame to go more casual friendly.
Cant agree more. A game in change all the time is doomed to get destroyed one way or another to please whiners
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I'm probably out for a while. Dad opened up a new shop, and I help out a lot
So sad
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level 65 UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 15 long fucking levels to go. I'll be 80 before the expansion after cata I swear.
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gogogo
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67 and I raided for susie last night ^.^
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omg what do you guys do when the server is down xD aside from sc2 OBVIOUSLY.
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good point ill hit you up for some games maybe youre at least decent at that compared to your death knight.
lololol jk, you on iccup? :D
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>< i suck! jtbem on iccup
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On March 17 2010 00:58 Monokeros wrote:
omg what do you guys do when the server is down xD aside from sc2 OBVIOUSLY.
back in my wow crazy days, i'd sleep during maintenance, and if i woke up too early, i'd surf around wowhead looking at items seeing what i need next and playing around with talent trees...or even read up on forums :^)
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zomg!!! servers are coming up
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On March 17 2010 00:58 Monokeros wrote:
omg what do you guys do when the server is down xD aside from sc2 OBVIOUSLY.
work and school...
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Well guys i just got my battle.net account back and my Characters were deleted im not restarting that shit, im just gonna go back to my old server where the ppl from the neighbourhood are, only this time ill be a fighter not a mage, thanks for the good times. was fun, ttyl. pluto no lvling!
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On March 20 2010 18:11 wishbones wrote:
Well guys i just got my battle.net account back and my Characters were deleted im not restarting that shit, im just gonna go back to my old server where the ppl from the neighbourhood are, only this time ill be a fighter not a mage, thanks for the good times. was fun, ttyl. pluto no lvling!
Did you get hacked, or what? :O
You could probably get them restored pretty easily, though if you're playing with real life friends, you may not have a reason to.
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On March 20 2010 18:11 wishbones wrote:
Well guys i just got my battle.net account back and my Characters were deleted im not restarting that shit, im just gonna go back to my old server where the ppl from the neighbourhood are, only this time ill be a fighter not a mage, thanks for the good times. was fun, ttyl. pluto no lvling!
Gm's can get deleted characters back afaik.
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hmmmm this is sort of tempting but I don't want to throw my life away to wow
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yeah i got hacked. and someone from "china" added an authenticator, i ended up using e-mail methods to fix. but i got tired of waiting because it happened to me a month before. so anyway i called and in literally 1 hour as appose to the 2 weeks i had already waited, my account was fixed.
Incase your wondering i only had to wait 5-6 days for the response but it wasn't a fix, and instead was a reply saying my case needed further investigation. So i almost had to wait 2 weeks, but yeah phoning = thanks.
And if so how can i get the GM's attention to get my 2 characters back.
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Just submit a ticket in game (on any character) saying your account was hacked, toons were deleted, and you'd like X character(s) restored. I've gotten about 5-10 item/character restores over my WoW career. From a hacking, to rage deletions, etc.
My last restore was right before I quit (I haven't played in over a year now), when I had been hacked. Got all of my gear/items back in the mail that had been sold off. It was amusing, because I ending up turning a profit from the restore. For the next couple days, I'd get auction sold messages, and made about 3k gold from it, then Blizzard turned around and sent me back everything that had been sold off.
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Wish I was on that server :<:<
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especially if you were hacked and they have notice of it, you can get your characters back.
on a side note: GET AN AUTHENTICATOR, PEOPLE! IT'S 6 BUCKS to protect your hard work and time!! plus you get a cool pet.
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i wish i had a credit card, but anywho i got my account back just now, it took about 30 minutes haha. ADD ME UP!!!
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On March 20 2010 23:35 So no fek wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2010 18:11 wishbones wrote:
Well guys i just got my battle.net account back and my Characters were deleted im not restarting that shit, im just gonna go back to my old server where the ppl from the neighbourhood are, only this time ill be a fighter not a mage, thanks for the good times. was fun, ttyl. pluto no lvling! Did you get hacked, or what? :O You could probably get them restored pretty easily, though if you're playing with real life friends, you may not have a reason to.
nah not really close personal friends except for the guy who got me into clan at the time
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hey i'm getting an unable to validate game version error...is the server up with 3.3.3?
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servers are down for maintenance for another hour and 20 minutes or so
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On March 21 2010 06:00 NuKedUFirst wrote:
Wish I was on that server :<:<
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Just got my last T10.5 Piece on my rogue today with H heartpierce :D:D
Susie got that heartpeirce last night aswell!
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my sincerest apologies to the guild, i have been mia due to...access to the scii beta...i had also forgotten about the raid last friday, that i am deeply sorry. i do plan to be present this friday for the raid tho. =)
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Hey, if any of you guys are interested, I have an 80 10/25 icc geared paladin that i'm looking to trade for a set of d2/lod keys. Mine smudged off my case -_-;;
I figured I'd ask in here because it's the WoW forum, and if this isn't allowed I'm sorry ;o
PM me for details
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did the server went down? I can't connect and battle.net or any of the blizzard websites wont open :S
edit: already on
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So...I'm 80 now and almost 5k GS and there is none of our korean friends to be seen.
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On April 06 2010 01:11 iSiN wrote:
So...I'm 80 now and almost 5k GS and there is none of our korean friends to be seen.
We were in HK!!
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Update: For further guild progress, (now that we know who's really in for the long run) I've kicked a TON of names who haven't logged on in over a month. I apologize in advance if you find that insulting but I need to know what our roster is made of so that I can recruit the classes we need.
Just sad that a lot of you seemed like you were interested in playing then just left without a trace. If I wrongfully kicked you from guild, again, I apologize. Just whisper someone who's online to invite you back.
Btw, ICC10 at 8:30pm EST this friday night.
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she is you have no idea. I mean she threatened to kill me if I didn't raid for her 1 night. Then I got her like 3 drops.
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How far did you guys get so far in ICC?
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we almost finished the gunship battle once
it was cool.
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On April 09 2010 03:38 SnowFantasy wrote:
we almost finished the gunship battle once
it was cool.
Oh you....
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I'm sure you guys will get through it friday! It's a relatively easy fight once you get the gist of it Good luck guys!
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On April 09 2010 04:25 Smorrie wrote:I'm sure you guys will get through it friday! It's a relatively easy fight once you get the gist of it Good luck guys!
Someone just got troll'd
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whats a troll mean anyways, ive been here five years and ive never asked, but always remained confused lol.
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On April 09 2010 05:14 wishbones wrote:
whats a troll mean anyways, ive been here five years and ive never asked, but always remained confused lol.
Nice try~
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Sorry if this has been said in this thread already, but I'm just trying to get the most up to date info possible.
What kind of progression are you guys at?
I wouldn't mind tanking or Moonkining.
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On April 09 2010 05:08 iSiN wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2010 04:25 Smorrie wrote:I'm sure you guys will get through it friday! It's a relatively easy fight once you get the gist of it Good luck guys! Someone just got troll'd
Lol, I guess 'he got me'.. It was a legit question and there was no reason for me to not take his word on it. Anyway, my further research showed that you guys have downed Rotface. The progression from 10man regular gunship is to Rotface is pretty small anyway lol, but good job.
+ Show Spoiler +I might consider sending my ex-main (icc25 geared disc priest) over.. but I'm actually trying to cut down on my wow time >.< I guess the TL guild is pretty casual though right?
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On April 09 2010 05:16 iSiN wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2010 05:14 wishbones wrote:
whats a troll mean anyways, ive been here five years and ive never asked, but always remained confused lol. Nice try~
what is a trolll.....
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On April 09 2010 05:28 Smorrie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2010 05:08 iSiN wrote:On April 09 2010 04:25 Smorrie wrote:I'm sure you guys will get through it friday! It's a relatively easy fight once you get the gist of it Good luck guys! Someone just got troll'd Lol, I guess 'he got me'.. It was a legit question and there was no reason for me to not take his word on it. Anyway, my further research showed that you guys have downed Rotface. The progression from 10man regular gunship is to Rotface is pretty small anyway lol, but good job. + Show Spoiler +I might consider sending my ex-main (icc25 geared disc priest) over.. but I'm actually trying to cut down on my wow time >.< I guess the TL guild is pretty casual though right?
do it do it do it, we're totally casual do it.
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I'd sooner play poker than pick up WoW again, and I'm terrible so I'd be broke in no time.
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On April 09 2010 05:28 Smorrie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2010 05:08 iSiN wrote:On April 09 2010 04:25 Smorrie wrote:I'm sure you guys will get through it friday! It's a relatively easy fight once you get the gist of it Good luck guys! Someone just got troll'd Lol, I guess 'he got me'.. It was a legit question and there was no reason for me to not take his word on it. Anyway, my further research showed that you guys have downed Rotface. The progression from 10man regular gunship is to Rotface is pretty small anyway lol, but good job. + Show Spoiler +I might consider sending my ex-main (icc25 geared disc priest) over.. but I'm actually trying to cut down on my wow time >.< I guess the TL guild is pretty casual though right?
Yeah as a serious answer, we're 6/12 down and putricide at phase 3.
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im sorry. i have a 60 high character but im too busy with the sc2 beta
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I was going to ask about your progression just out of curiosity but it seems to be posted here already.
You should probably give a go for Blood Princes and Dreamwalker (or whatever the heal boss is) if you are that far, we managed to take princes down to 1% and the heal boss down recently with a casual guild and are still in putri phase 3, I think around 5% of health left.
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We raid on weekends and we're trying to add 1 more week day now. So in terms of that, we're pretty casual. Otherwise everyone does their own thing, a good number of members pvp instead of pve progress too. Right now we basically do joint raids with either another guild or pick up a few pugs to fill last spots but we'd like to be able to have a TL only raid eventually.
SC2 beta hit us hard, I think but meh. All wow players end up coming back eventually.
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On April 09 2010 08:07 NeonFlare wrote:
I was going to ask about your progression just out of curiosity but it seems to be posted here already.
You should probably give a go for Blood Princes and Dreamwalker (or whatever the heal boss is) if you are that far, we managed to take princes down to 1% and the heal boss down recently with a casual guild and are still in putri phase 3, I think around 5% of health left.
Killed Putricide and Dreamwalker almost had sindragosa down but people were tired i'd say in 3 weeks we'll be killing Lich king in 10man.
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Mages get Bloodlust in Cata! omg
I would love to server transfer with you guys but right now I'm strapped on cash and I'm a bit attached to my current guild (10man LK going down tomorrow, I hope!) so best of luck to TL.
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On April 11 2010 04:18 scintilliaSD wrote:
Mages get Bloodlust in Cata! omg
I would love to server transfer with you guys but right now I'm strapped on cash and I'm a bit attached to my current guild (10man LK going down tomorrow, I hope!) so best of luck to TL.
Bring the good ones with you
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Hi Jamie!
hope things are well!
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On April 11 2010 04:18 scintilliaSD wrote:
Mages get Bloodlust in Cata! omg
I would love to server transfer with you guys but right now I'm strapped on cash and I'm a bit attached to my current guild (10man LK going down tomorrow, I hope!) so best of luck to TL.
Yeah I looked into it.. Server xfer + faction change = $55 which I find a bit much I guess it wouldn't hurt to start a new guy and see how I like it though.
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whoa, i almost logged in, but luckily i couldnt get any playtime cause battle.net is down, whewww
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well f*ck me sorry guys i accidentally wasted all the aldor rep stuff in the gbank >.<. needed it for the alchemist's stone (sha'tar revered) but just realized that the northrend stones dont require the epic tbc version >.<
fuuuuuu
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On April 14 2010 04:52 duckett wrote:
well f*ck me sorry guys i accidentally wasted all the aldor rep stuff in the gbank >.<. needed it for the alchemist's stone (sha'tar revered) but just realized that the northrend stones dont require the epic tbc version >.<
fuuuuuu
Drama inc.
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On April 14 2010 08:41 Judicator wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2010 04:52 duckett wrote:
well f*ck me sorry guys i accidentally wasted all the aldor rep stuff in the gbank >.<. needed it for the alchemist's stone (sha'tar revered) but just realized that the northrend stones dont require the epic tbc version >.<
fuuuuuu Drama inc.
/gkick
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Like that ever solved any problems.
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oh wow I had completely forgot about this, and I just came back to WoW and was looking for a decent server to play on. SC2 beta is good and all but I really need some WoW with my uni, cant let my grades get too high.
Are there any classes/roles in the guild that are lacking?
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On April 16 2010 09:09 dethrawr wrote:
oh wow I had completely forgot about this, and I just came back to WoW and was looking for a decent server to play on. SC2 beta is good and all but I really need some WoW with my uni, cant let my grades get too high.
Are there any classes/roles in the guild that are lacking?
lol sick
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On April 16 2010 09:09 dethrawr wrote:
oh wow I had completely forgot about this, and I just came back to WoW and was looking for a decent server to play on. SC2 beta is good and all but I really need some WoW with my uni, cant let my grades get too high.
Are there any classes/roles in the guild that are lacking?
i play the only warlock and there are no active hunters. but for 25's anything would be good tbh
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Started a hunter, name = Gottaskate
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lfm players, pugging is awful.
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On April 17 2010 06:59 JDizz6688 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2010 09:09 dethrawr wrote:
oh wow I had completely forgot about this, and I just came back to WoW and was looking for a decent server to play on. SC2 beta is good and all but I really need some WoW with my uni, cant let my grades get too high.
Are there any classes/roles in the guild that are lacking? i play the only warlock and there are no active hunters. but for 25's anything would be good tbh
hey! i started a lock, tho i have yet to add him to the guild
me and the princeton players are going to have like 9 80s by the end of the raf period >.<
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damn wish i knew this was going on (or is it even still going on?) before i made my character. got a lvl 15 frost mage on the server Vashj. using zygors guide to level him, got to 15 in about 5 hours.
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Are you guys still active? o.O; I recently got a bunch of free time cards and have been considering playing WoW again. If you guys are still an active-ish guild, I'd love to join up!
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I just transferred my Hunter over this past weekend (for those of you wondering who Hervé was, thats me ). My old server was getting boring and most of my friends had stopped playing, so I decided to come over to Bloodscalp even though I'm not exactly a big forum poster. So far the server seems quite active and fun (even managed to get a 25 ICC on Monday when it was the weekly, although we only managed to beat the 1st boss... lol). Hopefully I can get in on some TL raids since pugs prove so unreliable.
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My WoW account is currently frozen but I'll consider making a new character over in Bloodscalp during the summer seeing how you guys are pretty active
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On April 21 2010 02:34 Haemonculus wrote:
Are you guys still active? o.O; I recently got a bunch of free time cards and have been considering playing WoW again. If you guys are still an active-ish guild, I'd love to join up!
There are ALWAYS at least 3-4 people on at any given time. As far as raiding goes we still do 10s and 25(with puggers) every week.
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On April 21 2010 06:49 DrywMz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2010 02:34 Haemonculus wrote:
Are you guys still active? o.O; I recently got a bunch of free time cards and have been considering playing WoW again. If you guys are still an active-ish guild, I'd love to join up! There are ALWAYS at least 3-4 people on at any given time. As far as raiding goes we still do 10s and 25(with puggers) every week.
Sounds good, ^.^;
Leveling friendly guild as well, yes?
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On April 21 2010 10:09 Haemonculus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2010 06:49 DrywMz wrote:On April 21 2010 02:34 Haemonculus wrote:
Are you guys still active? o.O; I recently got a bunch of free time cards and have been considering playing WoW again. If you guys are still an active-ish guild, I'd love to join up! There are ALWAYS at least 3-4 people on at any given time. As far as raiding goes we still do 10s and 25(with puggers) every week. Sounds good, ^.^; Leveling friendly guild as well, yes?
Most of our low levelers are now well into their 60's I believe. We're always welcome to newcomers though. Gah, if only we had enough for our guild only 25 man...
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in the process of moving my pal's warrior over, I'll be playing with you guys shortly.
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I must just come back to WoW for this. That was one of the things that caused me to quit. I played by myself until level 39. It got boring quick.
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woot new ppl! gogo haemonculus, princeton gosu's are in the guild =). we're around 71-74 now, gonna be at 80 in a week or 2.
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On April 22 2010 06:26 duckett wrote:
woot new ppl! gogo haemonculus, princeton gosu's are in the guild =). we're around 71-74 now, gonna be at 80 in a week or 2.
"A week or two" is ambitious, given that we have exams coming up.
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On April 22 2010 06:26 duckett wrote:
woot new ppl! gogo haemonculus, princeton gosu's are in the guild =). we're around 71-74 now, gonna be at 80 in a week or 2.
Auughhhh but do i make a new char or pay to transfer an old char I haven't played in ages.... HMMMMMMM
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Hmm,... was actually considering starting WoW again. What is the invite a friend-3x Xp thing about?
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Basically, Recruit A Friend makes it so that if you and the person you were recruited by (or your own little recruitee) are in the same party, within a close proximity, you will both get 3x experience for absolutely everything, even quests.
It really is a little ridiculous, and although it only goes up to level 60, if your RaF buys WoW and pays for (iirc) 2 months, you get a month free and a fast Zhevra mount.
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Wow, 3x experience for playing together with a friend, sounds good!! Perhaps I should find a RaF and start over again .
Just wondering though: what's the latency to US-Bloodscalp for EU players here??? Because joining the TL guild seems pretty cool! But I wouldn't want it to be too laggy.
And is the TL guild still active and recruiting??
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On April 22 2010 08:00 VenetianSnares wrote:Wow, 3x experience for playing together with a friend, sounds good!! Perhaps I should find a RaF and start over again . Just wondering though: what's the latency to US-Bloodscalp for EU players here??? Because joining the TL guild seems pretty cool! But I wouldn't want it to be too laggy. And is the TL guild still active and recruiting??
I will be your RaF partner. Just send me a PM here on TL. ^_^
Just wondering though: what's the latency to US-Bloodscalp for EU players here??? Because joining the TL guild seems pretty cool! But I wouldn't want it to be too laggy. And is the TL guild still active and recruiting??
Latency: I'm not from Europe but at least a few of our members are. I can say that Lilsusie and Midian are currently playing from Korea and as far as I know the latency isn't too bad.
Activity/recruiting: We don't really recruit random people that aren't TL members (or their friends). There has been 1 exception I know of. We are trying to get as many people from TL leveled up to 80 to see where we are. If by then we still don't have enough people to form an all guild 25man we'll probably recruit randoms from there. Even without recruiting a lot of people it's still pretty active.
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Im playing from in Australia, and the ping is better than i was getting for the oceanic realms, i generally get between 180 and 250 ping. Not sure for EU, but i assume it will be relatively similar.
Also im planning to keep levelling my hunter, got to 13 last night..
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RAF with me people! princeton gosu's are starting a new round of raf leveling so if you want to blitz 0-60 at 3x with 3 other funloving wow players come with me!
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I would have transferred if it wasn't for the fact that all my real life friends and girlfriend play on the same server. No way we're going to be moving anywhere anytime soon (maybe for beta). lol..
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me and a buddy use the recruit a friend and dinged 60 in 14 hours. It is a sick deal.
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On April 22 2010 09:34 duckett wrote:
RAF with me people! princeton gosu's are starting a new round of raf leveling so if you want to blitz 0-60 at 3x with 3 other funloving wow players come with me!
Ohh damn how do I get in on that if I already have an account? o.O;
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Wow is no longer as exciting and fun as it used to be.. the way that Blizzard killed off Arthas and Illidan without giving those two heroes a awesome Cinematic ending was disappointing.. dats why I quit wow
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If you guys ever start raiding, even 10-mans, I'll definitely send a toon over.
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On April 22 2010 22:45 PH wrote:
If you guys ever start raiding, even 10-mans, I'll definitely send a toon over.
You don't read what ppl post, eh? We already have our core 10 man group, just need bodies to fill a 25 man and/or 2nd 10 man (most of us have 80 alts too)
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I encourage people to join, lol. (Intentional)
who knows you might enjoy the sc nerd community inside the game!
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Wouldn't it lag terribly to play cross the world? I've never done it but I mean.. it's loooong ways!!
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On April 23 2010 06:05 FlopTurnReaver wrote:
Wouldn't it lag terribly to play cross the world? I've never done it but I mean.. it's loooong ways!!
The lag is fine for most people i guess, know some americans who play here on EU servers and they don't complain
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Blizzards net code is fairly good for making lag less noticable.
For pvp you need very low latency to get anywhere, but for pve you can probably play consistently with 400-600 ping and be 100% ok.
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Its a shame that i quit recently i MTed for my guild for 3 years and it burnt me out tbh when i left we top 20 in the eu, but if i ever come back ill look you guys up lol tbh your famous and it would be nice to have some fun and not have such pressure (currently playing aika although ive run out of game lol). Anywho good luck have fun.
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Lemonwalrus and I are going to start up a new character: BF Paladin/BF hunter respectively. We're slow levelers who aren't really concerned with the end game and fast xp if anyone wants to join us.
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On April 22 2010 11:52 H2O Xplicit wrote:
Wow is no longer as exciting and fun as it used to be.. the way that Blizzard killed off Arthas and Illidan without giving those two heroes a awesome Cinematic ending was disappointing.. dats why I quit wow
Illidan was a pretty cool fight to be honest. It was overall extremely well made and reminiscent of the people who originally made the AQ40/Naxx40 boss fights. TBC in general still had a pretty good dungeon development team.
I will not get into Wrath though, it would take too long.
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On May 04 2010 04:50 Jayme wrote:
I will not get into Wrath though, it would take too long.
=/ I want to hear it. anyone else want to talk about how dungeon design affects how exciting wrath is?
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On May 04 2010 04:50 Jayme wrote:
I will not get into Wrath though, it would take too long.
You're clearly missing something. Though its quite easy, once you get into the hard modes there are several really fun fights out there.
Plus the overall quality of the areas/quests is waaaaaay above TBC.
Spending some time on wrath is really worth it.
And for all players loving lore and pve, missing lk's (hm) encounter is really a shame.
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I was thinking about making a seperate thread for this but let me just ask here first. Anyone on TR (arena pass)? This would be a great opportunity for people from tl to meet and start teams ^_^
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Was just struck by a random desire of playing a MMORPG again so I'm giving crack - err I mean, I'm giving WoW another run! I do have a Ulduar-geared 80 enchancement shammy but I just do not feel like transfering or playing him...
Think I'm rolling an Undead Priest to play with you guys and probably bringing a friend with me. PM me, I'll roll the character later tonight (in maybe 6 hours, after work and classes) and name will probably be Zazen if it's not taken.
If more people are willing to level up, well my healer surely could use a DPS or tank to level up with. Cya.
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On May 12 2010 04:20 zazen wrote:
Was just struck by a random desire of playing a MMORPG again so I'm giving crack - err I mean, I'm giving WoW another run! I do have a Ulduar-geared 80 enchancement shammy but I just do not feel like transfering or playing him...
Think I'm rolling an Undead Priest to play with you guys and probably bringing a friend with me. PM me, I'll roll the character later tonight (in maybe 6 hours, after work and classes) and name will probably be Zazen if it's not taken.
If more people are willing to level up, well my healer surely could use a DPS or tank to level up with. Cya.
I could consider it. What server are you playing on, as well as everyone else, don't wanna go through entire thread haha, and I can't remember but how long do I need to be inactive to have that ressurect a friend thing? Might as well get a free month off me if I decide to come back.
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On May 12 2010 04:37 fellcrow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2010 04:20 zazen wrote:
Was just struck by a random desire of playing a MMORPG again so I'm giving crack - err I mean, I'm giving WoW another run! I do have a Ulduar-geared 80 enchancement shammy but I just do not feel like transfering or playing him...
Think I'm rolling an Undead Priest to play with you guys and probably bringing a friend with me. PM me, I'll roll the character later tonight (in maybe 6 hours, after work and classes) and name will probably be Zazen if it's not taken.
If more people are willing to level up, well my healer surely could use a DPS or tank to level up with. Cya. I could consider it. What server are you playing on, as well as everyone else, don't wanna go through entire thread haha, and I can't remember but how long do I need to be inactive to have that ressurect a friend thing? Might as well get a free month off me if I decide to come back.
You can always read the first post
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me and a friend will prob come over during cata since we are taking a break to try and go pro in hon testie style :D.
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any of you guys care about/decent at arena at all ;o
i got a rogue i need decent teams on~
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i'll gladly play with you, tree to the rescue!
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would you guys have any use for an 80 destro lock? I have a good gear score and I average 5K + DPS. I'm having trouble finding a good raiding guild. My account was recently hacked and all my items stolen but I just had it restored and would like to start playing again. Currently I'm on the Winterhoof server on the alliance side (character's name is Nevic) but I would be open to switching servers and factions if you guys think you would really be able to use me. I know a while back you said you already had a core 10 man group, but wasn't sure if that's changed or if there's opportunity to fill in for people on a regular basis?
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We can use everything really!
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Ok already switched to bloodscalp.. gonna put in the faction change request now.. never played horde before should be fun =)
Edit: OK switch is done.. new character's name is "Guldrak" ... I'll be bugging you guys for an invite soon heheh
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hmm.. how do I join the guild =o. My char's DarthThienAn, lv11 right now. Just started on the trial, may or may not settle in xD.
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Don't think you can join guilds (or communicate with others) if you're only on trial.
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Sorry, forgive me for not screening all pages of the thread, but what time are raids? I have a semi-Uduar geared Resto Shaman I haven't played in almost a year I'm (sadly) probably going to reactivate.
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On May 31 2010 02:51 musai wrote:
Don't think you can join guilds (or communicate with others) if you're only on trial.
...lameee. I guess I'll let you guys know if I decide to commit $20 lol.
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BAH! I have quit for 1.5 years. But this is extremely tempting. damn you!!
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Is it likely you guys will still be playing for a while? I had to quit wow a few months back due to some temporary life changes. When those get resolved I plan on re-subbing, most likely in 3~6 months.
My experiences are very similar to how you describe yours. I love my guildies to death, and have been with them since vanilla....but I have never really gotten to play the way I would like. The attitudes and play time requirements of the higher end guilds don't suit me. For the most part I'm more about making efficient use of time.
I made this toon a while back to check out the horde side of life and see how well I could earn gold without previous server involvement. She was basically a side project while having down time. I plan on making my previous main toons the side project when I re-sub.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shattered Hand&cn=Unrulywench
I hope you still plan on being around at that time, this sounds like a fun opportunity. I'd love to xfer my side project over and play some endgame with it. I mostly love to heal, though I enjoy all roles. I also have enjoyed role switching(I love dual spec).
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I'm also wondering if the guild is still going strong. Been thinking about reactivating lately and need a place to go.
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I'm wondering the same thing. I reactivated after beta went down and on Dragonmaw at the moment. Are you guys still around? Also, any of you guys do arenas?
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The original group was strong for awhile then everyone grew tired of the game again. I know a few members are still trying to pull through so contact Cowgopoo or Emrys in game.
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So sad. we never went kingslayer.
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Timmy can get kingslayer, pretty sure some guilds have tanked him with badge gear (lol).
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On June 23 2010 22:15 lilsusie wrote:
The original group was strong for awhile then everyone grew tired of the game again. I know a few members are still trying to pull through so contact Cowgopoo or Emrys in game.
Summer time and the end of an expansion will do that. We never got anything going aside from the occasional 10 man around this time of year. Guess I will have to wait and see if it picks up steam toward years end.
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glad i didn't xfer :D, was about to. :p
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I finally got around to doing the trial and I got the full game now. I'll be getting the expansions this week. I'll be playing in silvermoon and illidan mostly.
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On June 23 2010 22:15 lilsusie wrote:
The original group was strong for awhile then everyone grew tired of the game again. I know a few members are still trying to pull through so contact Cowgopoo or Emrys in game.
Ah the memories of 25 mans falling apart and susie raging harder than I have ever heard her rage before. Wiping on sindragosa and then missing raids by a whole hour because I'm a derp that forgest PST =/= MST, the good old days. I miss them a little.
On July 07 2010 13:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I finally got around to doing the trial and I got the full game now. I'll be getting the expansions this week. I'll be playing in silvermoon and illidan mostly.
what are you doing Helvetica, you play on Bloodscalp damn you and ONLY on Bloodscalp.
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I saw the Cowgopoo and Scrapiron moved guilds and took our bank with them. Bastards!
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after dominating bloodscalp/cyclone bg, I run a guild called Vicious Cycle on Blackrock .. We've had a number of ex pros and pros in other games who play with us (3D from CS, moonglade/ioriau/flithy from aus SC, tempest/nooks from {88}, etc.). if you like to arena or pvp just let me know!
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A little off topic, but my friend and myself are coming back to wow for cataclsym.If theres anyone on teamliquid that has experience at high level pvp(2500+) and is without partners for cataclsym you should hit me up. We're both consistent 4+ time gladiators with 30k put away so you'll never have to farm. So if you're the type of player who wants to aim for #1 without spending all day in game send me a PM, class isn't a big deal, between the two of us we can play priest druid lock mage warrior hunter
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On July 14 2010 10:58 trancey wrote:
after dominating bloodscalp/cyclone bg, I run a guild called Vicious Cycle on Blackrock .. We've had a number of ex pros and pros in other games who play with us (3D from CS, moonglade/ioriau/flithy from aus SC, tempest/nooks from {88}, etc.). if you like to arena or pvp just let me know!
You know destructo from Rival/NoA plays on that server too right? Hella old school CS pro
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On July 21 2010 04:55 Pawsom wrote:
A little off topic, but my friend and myself are coming back to wow for cataclsym.If theres anyone on teamliquid that has experience at high level pvp(2500+) and is without partners for cataclsym you should hit me up. We're both consistent 4+ time gladiators with 30k put away so you'll never have to farm. So if you're the type of player who wants to aim for #1 without spending all day in game send me a PM, class isn't a big deal, between the two of us we can play priest druid lock mage warrior hunter
Coming back for Cata, never got 2500+, last time I played 2350 would get you a Rank 1 title. Been top 5 in all 3 brackets S1-S4 with both my Mage and Warrior, even sold a few glad titles in the day, (even got a few accounts banned for doing so lol). Haven't played more than 1 month of a season in woltk. Still gold capped from selling arena pts in tbc, currently on Illidan horde, was thinking of moving to Blackrock horde since a bunch of my friends from Tich Alliance seemed to have moved over to Blackrock as well.
Side Note: Trancey - were you Trance from Insurrection on Tichondrius Horde back is S1-S2? If so this is Misclicked.
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hey its trancey from world of ming.
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Brilliant someone join irrelavent and myself as we hoist the TL flag to #1 in another game.
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On July 14 2010 10:58 trancey wrote:
I run a guild called Vicious Cycle on Blackrock
Are you guys planning on pve'ing again? I know you were struggling a bit in ICC, hope you weeded some out and finished strong ^_^
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On July 21 2010 04:55 Pawsom wrote:
A little off topic, but my friend and myself are coming back to wow for cataclsym.If theres anyone on teamliquid that has experience at high level pvp(2500+) and is without partners for cataclsym you should hit me up. We're both consistent 4+ time gladiators with 30k put away so you'll never have to farm. So if you're the type of player who wants to aim for #1 without spending all day in game send me a PM, class isn't a big deal, between the two of us we can play priest druid lock mage warrior hunter
Hey I'm a 4x gladiator mage! I'll pvp with you guys if you're looking for teams. I got #1 double frost mage in the US season 5 and #3 mage lock shaman in the world season 6.
I also have a shaman I'm playing around with and would be more than happy to level either of those.
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There is talk about bringing back the guild for Cata. But my God, I don't want to be in charge of shit anymore.
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Greetings from US (A)Laughing Skull!
Dusk is recruiting skilled individuals to continue to dominate e-dragons. We're currently 3rd best Alliance side, check out http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1083320501 if your interested.
I've basically played WoW on and off for the past 2 years, during which I've played a single class/spec throughout. A Balance Druid,(Moonkin, Lazerturkey, Boomchicken, etc) pretty excite for the caster legendary. Cata has been a pretty decent expansion so far, albeit they didn't really do much on Blizzard's behalf... rehash areas, make new quests. Raid content is pretty good, and I can hope only to see it get better. PvP is still PvP.Overall I'd recommend Cata if there are still people undecided on whether they want to play or not.
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On January 09 2011 16:10 Slardar wrote:Greetings from US (A)Laughing Skull! Dusk is recruiting skilled individuals to continue to dominate e-dragons. We're currently 3rd best Alliance side, check out http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1083320501 if your interested. I've basically played WoW on and off for the past 2 years, during which I've played a single class/spec throughout. A Balance Druid,(Moonkin, Lazerturkey, Boomchicken, etc) pretty excite for the caster legendary. Cata has been a pretty decent expansion so far, albeit they didn't really do much on Blizzard's behalf... rehash areas, make new quests. Raid content is pretty good, and I can hope only to see it get better. PvP is still PvP.Overall I'd recommend Cata if there are still people undecided on whether they want to play or not.
Greetings from 2010, we already have two official Team Liquid guilds.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=166822
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168351
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Greetings from being a wiseguy, what do those have anything to do with my post? This is my guild I'm talking about, and it has nothing to do with other advertised guilds on TL.
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You're necroing a thread with a direct advertisiment, mate.
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Thanks for ignoring the 2 paragraphs below the advertisement. More contribution in that post than most people posting 1 liners. Why don't you let the mods do their work instead of derailing the thread into nothing. PM me if you want to lecture/discuss, otherwise post about WoW!
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