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chessmaster
Profile Joined November 2009
United States268 Posts
December 28 2009 03:47 GMT
#461
my thoughts on this position is rfd1 isa solid move .. or b4 is as well .. black most likely will respond with ne5 on rfd1 and look for an f3 timing push to disrupt the kingside pawns so watch out for that if b4 is played you must be prepared for rb8 and any pressure on the b file a likely line is rd1 ne5 qd4 kg8 b4 rb8 and after rb8 i am considering b5 ?! but will give the position more consideration .. if i am allowed to participate in this do not know if i am too strong for that to be fair.. what is the strength of the opposition ???
the beauty of a move is not in its appearance but the thought behind it ... nimzovitch
chessmaster
Profile Joined November 2009
United States268 Posts
December 28 2009 03:50 GMT
#462
scratch that last post after rd1 ne5 qd4 kg8 b4???? f3 !!!!! is possible so after kg8 w may have to play f3 as a prophalactic to the b f3 i know its passive but i cant find an active prevention
the beauty of a move is not in its appearance but the thought behind it ... nimzovitch
jeddus
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States832 Posts
December 28 2009 03:52 GMT
#463
Please put analyses in spoiler tags.

Grazzi.
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Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
December 28 2009 03:52 GMT
#464
chessmaster, i suggest you use spoiler tags so lightman doesnt read your analysis and look through it for better lines for black. The rules say he cant look in spoilers (as per honor system). Just put your vote of the move outside of the spoiler (although there is a team that makes the votes, so giving input they may consider is something to add).
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
December 28 2009 03:54 GMT
#465
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Hmm yes after qc7 I think I like jfazz's analysis. Dont have a board or too much time to think about it now but I'll vote for Rad1. Need to know what black is going to do first before jumping to forcing moves. We need a further sense of what his plan is so we can counter.


I vote for Rad1.
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Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
December 28 2009 03:57 GMT
#466
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To add, b4 would be incorrect since black's queen is now poised for queenside action. Especially if he plays Rb8 and c5 anytime in the near future.
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proberecall
Profile Joined August 2009
United States104 Posts
December 28 2009 04:21 GMT
#467
On December 28 2009 12:12 chessmaster wrote:
i am a fide master with 1 im norm .. i would be happy to play a match as well


for being a fide master you don't appear to be pretty smart at reading in the rules that your analysis should be tageed in spoilers, also not polite on respecting anyone's opinion on kramnik being the best player ever
chessmaster
Profile Joined November 2009
United States268 Posts
December 28 2009 04:49 GMT
#468
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it comes down to if b4 is premature or not .. if it isn't it is a good positional move ..... a5 cannot delay b4 at the moment as there is a tactic protecting it ..rfd1 a5 a3 rb8 b4 !!! axb axb and if rxb4 then nb5 is a discovered attack on the rook while the knight hits the queen winning the exchange .. this too me is the most critical line to observe whether b4 gets delayed now this is minimal analysis i must add but it appears b4 cannot be delayed with a5 unless i am missing a quiet move from black ... rad1 is a solid move it appears ... .. but b4 can also be directly played on this move as i just showed the b4 pawn is immune to capture so rb8 isnt a threat in itself for instance b4 rb8 and now we can play a free move as rxb4 isnt possible to the above mentioned tactic another line could be b4 rb8 rab1ne5 now comes a critical choice if rfd1 then we must be prepared to meet f3 !!! one interesting line .. .... b4 rb8 rab1 ne5 rfd1 f3 gxf nxf bxn rxb qd4+ e5 qc5!!
rxc3 qe7+ wins no matter what b does kh6 kg8 or kh8 we play rd6 and win outright to various tactics .. if your goona make the claim b4 cant be played please show analysis why
the beauty of a move is not in its appearance but the thought behind it ... nimzovitch
chessmaster
Profile Joined November 2009
United States268 Posts
December 28 2009 04:54 GMT
#469
oh sorry i think i just figured out how to use the spoiler tags these are my first posts here sorry if thet last post was not don ecorrectly problem solved for future posts
the beauty of a move is not in its appearance but the thought behind it ... nimzovitch
Arhkangel
Profile Joined August 2007
Argentina769 Posts
December 28 2009 04:56 GMT
#470
Lol chessmaster fail spolers! Edit all your posts to add in spoilers. Select all the text and then click the little [S] Icon that should work.

Dude are you seriously a FIDE Master? BTW It's not your skill that wont let you play it's the fact that the team sigups are already closed Maybe we can play against you next time. I would love to see lighamn and jfazz playing on the same team against you.

Keep giving us you analysis thou it's great to have more opinions.
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chessmaster
Profile Joined November 2009
United States268 Posts
December 28 2009 05:09 GMT
#471
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yeah im a fm no biggy though /i am convinced b4 is playable another line could go .. b4 ne5 qd4 d6 ?(f3 is critical line though) c5 (dxc qxc gives white a small edge ) be6 rfd1 rad8 b5 !!!! is an awesome resource !!! giving white a small edge i will have to provide analysis on f3 instead of d6 here before i can be certain
the beauty of a move is not in its appearance but the thought behind it ... nimzovitch
chessmaster
Profile Joined November 2009
United States268 Posts
December 28 2009 05:14 GMT
#472
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ahh i am stupid f3 instead on d6 transposes into my other analysis on f3 that i made on my failed spoiler post as it doesnt change anything if the a pawns are on the board ...
the beauty of a move is not in its appearance but the thought behind it ... nimzovitch
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
December 28 2009 05:41 GMT
#473
chessmaster, you can click "edit" on your last posts and add spoilers if you want to
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lightman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States731 Posts
December 28 2009 14:15 GMT
#474

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JUST PLAYED: 14......Ne5

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Ikari
Profile Joined April 2007
United States176 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 16:00:24
December 28 2009 15:49 GMT
#475
15. Qd4

Can't decide between this and b3.
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Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
December 28 2009 16:25 GMT
#476
Qd4


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B3 feels to passive for me. I wanted to play b4 here but I couldn't ignor the threat of f3.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 16:59:59
December 28 2009 16:58 GMT
#477
15. b3

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can't help but feel that the f rook should be on d1 since the a rook might want to go to c1 as well. I'm not liking the winning chances in this position but draws are likely.
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 17:16:38
December 28 2009 17:13 GMT
#478
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I guess I don't see how Qd4 is not a waste of time: 15. Qd4...c5. 16. Qd5?... Bb7. 17. Qd2 is the only option, back where we started from but with black controlling the diagonal + c5. Am I missing something obvious here?

I think we would do better preparing for some sort of f3 push, either immediately or right after black opens up the d7 field so he can activate his bishop. Perhaps we can play 15. f3? Is that too paranoid? Is it not worth the risk of opening up the black diagonal to the king?
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Arhkangel
Profile Joined August 2007
Argentina769 Posts
December 28 2009 17:34 GMT
#479
Let´s keep this interesting I vote 15.g3

Yeah I said 15.g3 not 15.f3

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15.g3 fxg3 16.fxg3 Rxf1 17.Kxf1 ... This can work out for us. It´s risky but hey... What isn´t?
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
December 28 2009 18:15 GMT
#480
On December 29 2009 02:34 Arhkangel wrote:
Let´s keep this interesting I vote 15.g3

Yeah I said 15.g3 not 15.f3

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15.g3 fxg3 16.fxg3 Rxf1 17.Kxf1 ... This can work out for us. It´s risky but hey... What isn´t?


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I think black would 15... f3 or 15... d6 instead of 15... fxg3.
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