whao, if Lotus really only scales off of your item damage, that changes everything O_O. I just can't tell that from the description.

EDIT: DID SOMEONE SAY SUNFIRE KAT!?!?!?!?!?!
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sunfire mummy > sunfire kat, cause despair is like, a lot of sunfires in a sunfire battle.

rredtooth

5464 Posts

May 25 2010 20:59 GMT

#4683

see BT doesnt make sense on kat. as kat you're gonna be in the middle of all the action doing a shit-ton of damge. when you engage, you usually engage with your only escape mechanism. my point is that you're gonna die, a lot. i told gozey this, kat is like a voltorb: you fucking roll in and self-destruct, hoping to take out as many people in the process. with BT, that means you gotta restart your stacks and farm while you should be hunting heroes. same with mejais.

i average 9.73 kills a game in all my games as kat. i also average 4.27 deaths a game, most of which is later on in the game. that's a lot of time wasted trying to get back to full damage potential. that means hesitation on whether or not to jump into the middle of the fight and start spinning and tower diving low health heroes.

but, once again, that's just how i play kat. i think kat is one of those heroes where there is a large variety of style, each of which can be equally effective. mine just happens to be hyper aggressive.

rredtooth

5464 Posts

May 25 2010 21:00 GMT

#4684

^ lol.

solanir doesn't focus on sunfire as his main source of damage though. he gets it as his survivability/farming item and stacks BF swords. don't think that^ is how kat is supposed to be played.

Mogwai

United States13274 Posts

May 25 2010 21:02 GMT

#4685

yea, definitely not. that game is older than dirt, and is from way back when I sucked super hard and Amumu was my most played champ :p. I just always think of it when I hear sunfire and kat in the same sentence.

rredtooth

5464 Posts

May 25 2010 21:05 GMT

#4686

On May 25 2010 17:48 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
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also, i just noticed arreat summit. lol @ d2 players. l2play new games.

Mogwai

United States13274 Posts

May 25 2010 21:10 GMT

#4687

I think I'm going to run Spirit Visage and 4x Warmogs the next time I play on my smurf. I want to see how high I can get my HP regen.

EDIT: or should I have a FoN in there in place of another Warmogs?

rredtooth

5464 Posts

May 25 2010 21:13 GMT

#4688

On May 26 2010 06:10 Mogwai wrote:
I think I'm going to run Spirit Visage and 4x Warmogs the next time I play on my smurf. I want to see how high I can get my HP regen.

EDIT: or should I have a FoN in there in place of another Warmogs?

lol mundo. low health? ULT. HIGH HEALTH.

HazMat

United States17077 Posts

May 25 2010 22:39 GMT

#4689

I've found a jungle shen build that works for me with 21 masteries and some runes. I get redpot + 5 hp pots (yes,5) and I start off at liz then kill wolf/golem creep then wraiths. After that I go to the golem/wolf by ancient golem and then golem.

I've never jungled before so I need some help. Do I keep going small creeps once I kill golem or do I go straight to their jungle and kill their golem/liz. Also, when do I start ganking?

HeavOnEarth

United States7087 Posts

May 25 2010 22:43 GMT

#4690

when you see someone with low hp? lol <_<

Southlight

United States11768 Posts

May 25 2010 22:44 GMT

#4691

Or if you wanna help your 1v2 out by dropping the 2's health low.

IMO if you have red buff you should always go for at least one gank attempt before it runs out.

rredtooth

5464 Posts

May 25 2010 22:48 GMT

#4692

my gangplank is terribad lol.

Southlight

United States11768 Posts

May 25 2010 22:56 GMT

#4693

On May 26 2010 07:48 redtooth wrote:
gangplank is terribad lol.

FYP!

Not terrible but meh.

HazMat

United States17077 Posts

May 25 2010 23:06 GMT

#4694

On May 26 2010 07:43 HeavOnEarth wrote:
when you see someone with low hp? lol <_<

Ehh I guess so, I gotta start playing games by my own ideal, I read too many guides.

Guess that's what happens when you try to be really good at broodwar.

Nehsb

United States380 Posts

May 25 2010 23:21 GMT

#4695

jjonga, us server, 170-158, i'm really bad

I don't have a mic right now, should I get one?

Also, how do you play tristana? I'm using the tristana skill/item build from this thread, but I lose (or get carried) in pretty much every game I play with trist. Should I be aggressive early on?

Southlight

United States11768 Posts

May 26 2010 00:32 GMT

#4696

"Playstyle."

Look at that, 83 creep kills in like a 35 minute game, yeeeah!

And yea, my overall winrate/janna win rate dropped like a rock over the weekend, oh well.

Khenra

Netherlands885 Posts

May 26 2010 00:38 GMT

#4697

On May 26 2010 07:39 HazMat wrote:
I've found a jungle shen build that works for me with 21 masteries and some runes. I get redpot + 5 hp pots (yes,5) and I start off at liz then kill wolf/golem creep then wraiths. After that I go to the golem/wolf by ancient golem and then golem.

I've never jungled before so I need some help. Do I keep going small creeps once I kill golem or do I go straight to their jungle and kill their golem/liz. Also, when do I start ganking?

I could tell you my jungle routine with Warwick if you like.

I start with the golem/wolf camp on our Lizard side, then I go golem/wolf camp on our Golem side. Then I take out Golem, and then I cross over to their Lizard side. If my smite is up, I go for Lizard directly, else I first take their golem/wolf camp. If all is well, it'll be 4 minutes and a few seconds, and I'm lvl 4 with Blood Scent and ready to gank our Golem side with double buffs and Ghost

After that, you port back and go for your own lizard/their golem/dragon.

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

May 26 2010 00:45 GMT

#4698

On May 26 2010 09:32 Southlight wrote:
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"Playstyle."

Look at that, 83 creep kills in like a 35 minute game, yeeeah!

And yea, my overall winrate/janna win rate dropped like a rock over the weekend, oh well.

Feeder!

Southlight

United States11768 Posts

May 26 2010 00:50 GMT

#4699

(((((

Mogwai

United States13274 Posts

May 26 2010 01:11 GMT

#4700

21 all in defense. (extras go to offensive to get to archaic knowledge when you have them)
dodge seals
flat CD glyphs
flat HP quints
some type of marks (armor pen, magic pen, attack speed, doesn't really matter)

doran's shield + health pot to start
q, w, q, e, q, r, w then r > e > w > q
lizard side wolf/golem camp to start. if you get golem, smite to start, then vorpal it, kill the first, then move onto the second with vorpal all the way. if wolves, save your smite and just kill with vorpals, starting on the big one. Next take your wraiths. If you have your smite, open with it on the large one and vorpal the little ones as necessary, otherwise start with vorpal on the big one, kill the big one, level up, and then use feint to absorb some of the damage from the little guys. from there, you take your golem side wolf/golem camp, then you either circle back to your lizard side and clean it out including the buff, or you do it to their side if they don't have a jungler. From there it's pretty easy. Gank when you can, take dragon any time after level 5, preferably with help, otherwise you need lizard, full health, and smite to take it down.